*My opinion as a boystyle person* I don't think, Ouji is a "Lolita Fashion Substyle" because, if you like wearing boys clothes, you see yourself as a person who likes the male silhouette and NOT as someone who is "sick of wearing skirts in lolita someday". Even though both styles, ouji and lolita, are influenced by "antique" Victorian children's clothing, they don't need each other to exist. Inspiration is the same as motivation, not always ✨
Why does this not have more views??? While I'm not that knowledgeable into ouji fashion vs lolita fashion, this helped give me a better idea of what pieces to get for an ouji outfit and what makes something ouji! Thank you! Also I love your illustrations ❤ ❤❤
14:50 Allen Avadonia's (Kagamine Len) outfit in the daughter of evil series could also be classified Ouji I think? The silhouette is there but it isn't super accessorized because he's supposed to be a servant in the series.
omg i like ur channel and ur videos are high quality i just found ur channel when i searched up about lolita style that video helped me so much to understand what's types of lolita thank u so much and can u make more videos about fashion styles ?
Anime Fighting games enjoyer here, Got you fam! Here are some more Ouji-like characters Bao, king of fighters (maybe) Cronos Orma, Bloody roar (Maybe) The boy and girl trainers, Pokemon Scarlet and Violet Cure Infini, HUGtto! Pretty Cure Cure Wing, Hirogaru Sky! Pretty Cure Nils, fire emblem the blazing blade Kafei, LOZ Majora's Mask Carl Clover, blazblue Leonardo B. Harwey, from fate extra Hans Christian Andersen, fate go/fate extra ccc Actually a lot of characters from Fate go can be ouji ex: Chevalier d'Eon, Captain Nemo, billy the kid, lanling wang
Thanks for the list! I do play Pokemon games and I'm not sure if the pokemon trainers outfit from Scarlet and Violet would fit...but Pretty Cure and characters from fates are so spot on!
So I actually did a huuuuge info dump about ouji lately… we can’t post images here so you’ll get my info dump without its images. "OUJI BIGGEST BEGINNER INTRODUCTION This introduction diverge from your typical lolita and ouji intro. Indeed, while most will say "Victorian Japanese style» and never go further than that, I plan on being truthful. Because I am tired of thinking I studied EGL enough only to be slammed in the face once I actually join a community. So, firstly, to understand ouji, is to understand lolita. Actually, most of this will be why lolita looks like this and that, and we’ll talk about ouji only in the last part. Part I - WHAT EVERYONE REPEATS While, yes, I said I was going to go further than what everyone says, I do think it is an important basis, despite this basis not being actually right. At least, not entirely. Overall, lolita will be talked about mostly as this Victorian inspired fashion. It isn’t, but, for a ouji goal, you don’t need to know everything, and we’ll come back to that later in the gothic related part. In overall, at the time of lolita fashion, in the 80s and 90s there was an enormous pressure upon women to get married, have babies, raise a family… Lolita fashion was against that. (Again, it wasn’t initially, but it evolved into that). There also was the economic bubble, which existed from 1986 to 1991. When that bubble popped, people in the streets of harajuku began to manifest by buying there, and forming a lot of new unique styles from it, lolita, included. In truth, this didn’t made lolita fashion, it just helped it become more than the small niche thing it was, to a lesser extent niche thing, with a specific audience. Also, you have to know that, in the start of lolita, DIY culture was enormous. Overall, this is what most will tell you about lolita fashion until you actually join a community. It is actually more nuanced than this, and we’ll delve into it. **__Part II - THE NUMEROUS CONTRIBUTIONS__** Like any aesthetics, it often takes inspiration from multiple things, and that includes many different contexts. We will delve into those therefore. **The European Admiration** Here is a quote from this article(男性が作り上げた“少女像”への抵抗 ロリータファッションの起源と現在地), translated into English : "In the 1980s, a vague admiration for the West began to take hold as a fashion style. According to Mr. Kikuta, artists who had a big influence on the subculture scene of the time, including Lolita fashion, were artists such as Milk, Shirley Temple, Jane Marple and ATUSKI ONISHI), magazines featuring youth fashion and subculture such as Olive and Takarajima, and a music scene dominated by new wave. For example, fans of bands considered to be part of the so-called "visual kei" genre, such as Denki Groove's previous band Seikatsu, which was owned by the music label "Nagomu Records", and Uchoten, whose vocals are performed by the brand's owner, KERA. This fashion style is considered the cornerstone of Lolita." There also was a already Japanese culture phenomenon who contributed to it, with an overall fantasy over foreigners. Add to that the global romanticization of the French, and you can kinda already see where this was going. **The Kawaii Boom** Kawaii culture is crucial to understand our aesthetic and why is lolita sometimes done differently from ouji. So, see, post to World War II, japan wanted to move away from the harsh realities, and wanted to avoid being remembered for it. (Cough cough) ~~germany~~ (cough cough) Kawaii culture is pretty much its own very big subculture, like ouji and lolita. So it would be very hard and very long to explain to explain all of its inspirations. First of all, you need to understand that, translating kawaii as cute, is an over explanation. Indeed, the two digress in image significantly. We can observe that mostly with the Sanrio franchise. First image here is Japanese kind of Sanrio, second is western Sanrio. This culture boomed 1970s. Remember that. **Girly Kei, Lolita’s mother** Girly kei is by far, one of the biggest root to lolita, along with kawaii culture. Girly kei got to be born from kawaii culture, also. It started trending from another trend, which was the romantic movement, in the 1980s. Sanrio and idols also really helped that movement. Another great popularization of it were the magazines An-an and Non-no. They launched in the 1970s and heavily shaped women’s fashion, towards softer looks. **FINALLY, LOLITA’s BIRTH** Due to all of theses, girly brands like Baby the stars shines bright, and others, began to adopt the lolita label, while others rejected it, like Axes femmes, for wider audience purposes, since girly kei is considered normie, unlike lolita. **__Part III - How lolita was … t’ill gothic__** Because of all this, the earliest versions of lolita were very kawaii, cutesy, and frilly : there only existed sweet. The brands that didn’t reject the label started to settle onto a specific silhouette, hence why before that settlement, the most proto versions of lolita just looks like shapeless old school, without a specific idea in mind. Then they settled, and here you go with your bell shape silhouette. However’ something else was going on in a totally different context. I bring you to a visual kei band, with its guitarist, that we all call mana sama. For some short context, visual kei is a music genre who has the purpose of being over the top visually, hence the name. One of the group’s most beloved member passed away, and that shook the group’s direction terribly. After its death, mana began to take a more romantic yet dark and gothic visual direction. And he took inspiration from lolita fashion. In an interview with him, he claims to the journalist that he wanted something dark and cutesy. This was what he had in mind. Before gothic, lolita didn’t had much historical inspiration. It was maybe a bit frilly, but that’s it. Gothic changed that completely. And even then, it is just a fantasized vision of historical clothes. Hence, he formed his brand, that we today call Moi Même Moitié. **__Part IV - Classical birth__** Because of gothic’s birth, it allowed us to dive into the historical inspiration without its dark themes. There actually existed another trend in japan, which helped into classic’s birth. It isn’t used by the JP community, but we, westerners, call it, natural kei. Here is a doodle made by Banyu that explains this whole taking vintage inspiration history : **__Part V - Ouji, the adopted brother__** At some point in Japan, in the early 2000s, there was boystyle trend - there was a rise in boys fashion. It boomed due to multiple factors, such as visual kei female singers, crossdresses as men. Some of their outfits looked like a proto version of ouji, but there were many other types of boy styles. Some more elegant than others. It was the gothic lolita brands who started first, taking inspiration from the Vkei boystyle outfits, and ending up with a vampire-like kind of aesthetic. Eventually, sweet brands joined in, and went for a more regal kind of look. Classic and gothic already existed when ouji was born, and they were thoses who started to birth ouji, hence why most of ouji is gothic or at least classical. Unlike lolita, who started with kawaii inspiration. Ouji is technically just the adopted by lolita version of boystyle, basically, hence why its like its adopted brother, and you may see some people call it still boystyle today. Credit : banyureged on discord, who made the drawings included as well all the research’s here. "
*My opinion as a boystyle person*
I don't think, Ouji is a "Lolita Fashion Substyle" because, if you like wearing boys clothes, you see yourself as a person who likes the male silhouette and NOT as someone who is "sick of wearing skirts in lolita someday". Even though both styles, ouji and lolita, are influenced by "antique" Victorian children's clothing, they don't need each other to exist.
Inspiration is the same as motivation, not always ✨
Why does this not have more views??? While I'm not that knowledgeable into ouji fashion vs lolita fashion, this helped give me a better idea of what pieces to get for an ouji outfit and what makes something ouji! Thank you! Also I love your illustrations ❤ ❤❤
Thank you so much for your kind words. Your comment makes my day.
I love Ouji, here in México isn't called like that but more Kodona hehe.
I really want to more more outfits of it in future.
14:50 Allen Avadonia's (Kagamine Len) outfit in the daughter of evil series could also be classified Ouji I think? The silhouette is there but it isn't super accessorized because he's supposed to be a servant in the series.
I wanna wear this 😭😭
omg i like ur channel and ur videos are high quality i just found ur channel when i searched up about lolita style that video helped me so much to understand what's types of lolita thank u so much and can u make more videos about fashion styles ?
Will do! (Not sure when but will do🥲) And thank you so much for watching and commenting.
Thank you for the video 👍🏻 I never heard of Ouji before not really my style I know of Lolita though.
Hi. Thank you also for watching! Glad that this gives you something new.
@@kjrasa I think it's funny or strange that they try and take something make it a little different than put a new name on it all the time
Anime Fighting games enjoyer here, Got you fam!
Here are some more Ouji-like characters
Bao, king of fighters (maybe)
Cronos Orma, Bloody roar (Maybe)
The boy and girl trainers, Pokemon Scarlet and Violet
Cure Infini, HUGtto! Pretty Cure
Cure Wing, Hirogaru Sky! Pretty Cure
Nils, fire emblem the blazing blade
Kafei, LOZ Majora's Mask
Carl Clover, blazblue
Leonardo B. Harwey, from fate extra
Hans Christian Andersen, fate go/fate extra ccc
Actually a lot of characters from Fate go can be ouji ex: Chevalier d'Eon, Captain Nemo, billy the kid, lanling wang
YESSSS Cure Infini is def ouji
Thanks for the list! I do play Pokemon games and I'm not sure if the pokemon trainers outfit from Scarlet and Violet would fit...but Pretty Cure and characters from fates are so spot on!
Sometimes Ouji is Creepy-Cute ^-^
Now know Venti and Freminent from genshin impact
Furina!
Furina too
This deserves way more likes!!!!
Thank you ❤️
@@kjrasa of course! 🖤
Great video! Is it alright that i use it as a reference for a project im working on? Credit to you always.
Also Furina, in my opinion, seems to use an aristocratic ouji
This style reminds me of Ciel Phantomhive of Black Butler
Also Elegant Gothic Aristocrat reminds me of Sebastian in Black Butler
I agree
I agree
I mean from what i remember doesn't it mean little prince? Ciel is like a bratty prince so ig that's why
He’s the reason I’m into gothic ouji fashion🖤🌹
So I actually did a huuuuge info dump about ouji lately… we can’t post images here so you’ll get my info dump without its images.
"OUJI BIGGEST BEGINNER INTRODUCTION
This introduction diverge from your typical lolita and ouji intro. Indeed, while most will say "Victorian Japanese style» and never go further than that, I plan on being truthful. Because I am tired of thinking I studied EGL enough only to be slammed in the face once I actually join a community.
So, firstly, to understand ouji, is to understand lolita. Actually, most of this will be why lolita looks like this and that, and we’ll talk about ouji only in the last part.
Part I - WHAT EVERYONE REPEATS
While, yes, I said I was going to go further than what everyone says, I do think it is an important basis, despite this basis not being actually right. At least, not entirely.
Overall, lolita will be talked about mostly as this Victorian inspired fashion. It isn’t, but, for a ouji goal, you don’t need to know everything, and we’ll come back to that later in the gothic related part.
In overall, at the time of lolita fashion, in the 80s and 90s there was an enormous pressure upon women to get married, have babies, raise a family…
Lolita fashion was against that. (Again, it wasn’t initially, but it evolved into that).
There also was the economic bubble, which existed from 1986 to 1991. When that bubble popped, people in the streets of harajuku began to manifest by buying there, and forming a lot of new unique styles from it, lolita, included.
In truth, this didn’t made lolita fashion, it just helped it become more than the small niche thing it was, to a lesser extent niche thing, with a specific audience.
Also, you have to know that, in the start of lolita, DIY culture was enormous.
Overall, this is what most will tell you about lolita fashion until you actually join a community. It is actually more nuanced than this, and we’ll delve into it.
**__Part II - THE NUMEROUS CONTRIBUTIONS__**
Like any aesthetics, it often takes inspiration from multiple things, and that includes many different contexts. We will delve into those therefore.
**The European Admiration**
Here is a quote from this article(男性が作り上げた“少女像”への抵抗 ロリータファッションの起源と現在地), translated into English :
"In the 1980s, a vague admiration for the West began to take hold as a fashion style. According to Mr. Kikuta, artists who had a big influence on the subculture scene of the time, including Lolita fashion, were artists such as Milk, Shirley Temple, Jane Marple and ATUSKI ONISHI), magazines featuring youth fashion and subculture such as Olive and Takarajima, and a music scene dominated by new wave. For example, fans of bands considered to be part of the so-called "visual kei" genre, such as Denki Groove's previous band Seikatsu, which was owned by the music label "Nagomu Records", and Uchoten, whose vocals are performed by the brand's owner, KERA. This fashion style is considered the cornerstone of Lolita."
There also was a already Japanese culture phenomenon who contributed to it, with an overall fantasy over foreigners. Add to that the global romanticization of the French, and you can kinda already see where this was going.
**The Kawaii Boom**
Kawaii culture is crucial to understand our aesthetic and why is lolita sometimes done differently from ouji.
So, see, post to World War II, japan wanted to move away from the harsh realities, and wanted to avoid being remembered for it. (Cough cough) ~~germany~~ (cough cough)
Kawaii culture is pretty much its own very big subculture, like ouji and lolita. So it would be very hard and very long to explain to explain all of its inspirations.
First of all, you need to understand that, translating kawaii as cute, is an over explanation. Indeed, the two digress in image significantly. We can observe that mostly with the Sanrio franchise.
First image here is Japanese kind of Sanrio, second is western Sanrio.
This culture boomed 1970s. Remember that.
**Girly Kei, Lolita’s mother**
Girly kei is by far, one of the biggest root to lolita, along with kawaii culture. Girly kei got to be born from kawaii culture, also.
It started trending from another trend, which was the romantic movement, in the 1980s. Sanrio and idols also really helped that movement.
Another great popularization of it were the magazines An-an and Non-no. They launched in the 1970s and heavily shaped women’s fashion, towards softer looks.
**FINALLY, LOLITA’s BIRTH**
Due to all of theses, girly brands like Baby the stars shines bright, and others, began to adopt the lolita label, while others rejected it, like Axes femmes, for wider audience purposes, since girly kei is considered normie, unlike lolita.
**__Part III - How lolita was … t’ill gothic__**
Because of all this, the earliest versions of lolita were very kawaii, cutesy, and frilly : there only existed sweet. The brands that didn’t reject the label started to settle onto a specific silhouette, hence why before that settlement, the most proto versions of lolita just looks like shapeless old school, without a specific idea in mind.
Then they settled, and here you go with your bell shape silhouette.
However’ something else was going on in a totally different context.
I bring you to a visual kei band, with its guitarist, that we all call mana sama. For some short context, visual kei is a music genre who has the purpose of being over the top visually, hence the name.
One of the group’s most beloved member passed away, and that shook the group’s direction terribly.
After its death, mana began to take a more romantic yet dark and gothic visual direction. And he took inspiration from lolita fashion. In an interview with him, he claims to the journalist that he wanted something dark and cutesy. This was what he had in mind. Before gothic, lolita didn’t had much historical inspiration. It was maybe a bit frilly, but that’s it. Gothic changed that completely. And even then, it is just a fantasized vision of historical clothes.
Hence, he formed his brand, that we today call Moi Même Moitié.
**__Part IV - Classical birth__**
Because of gothic’s birth, it allowed us to dive into the historical inspiration without its dark themes. There actually existed another trend in japan, which helped into classic’s birth. It isn’t used by the JP community, but we, westerners, call it, natural kei. Here is a doodle made by Banyu that explains this whole taking vintage inspiration history :
**__Part V - Ouji, the adopted brother__**
At some point in Japan, in the early 2000s, there was boystyle trend - there was a rise in boys fashion.
It boomed due to multiple factors, such as visual kei female singers, crossdresses as men. Some of their outfits looked like a proto version of ouji, but there were many other types of boy styles. Some more elegant than others.
It was the gothic lolita brands who started first, taking inspiration from the Vkei boystyle outfits, and ending up with a vampire-like kind of aesthetic.
Eventually, sweet brands joined in, and went for a more regal kind of look.
Classic and gothic already existed when ouji was born, and they were thoses who started to birth ouji, hence why most of ouji is gothic or at least classical. Unlike lolita, who started with kawaii inspiration.
Ouji is technically just the adopted by lolita version of boystyle, basically, hence why its like its adopted brother, and you may see some people call it still boystyle today.
Credit : banyureged on discord, who made the drawings included as well all the research’s here. "
Oh. I thought this said Ouija fashion.. *is covered in letters*
💙
Is Nier Automata also also ouji?
I am NOT dressing genshin impact style