Legendary 18,000 Unit Battle For HELM'S DEEP - Lord Of The Rings Mod Update

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  • Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
  • The Lord Of The Rings Total War Atilla mod ( The Dawnless Days) just got an update with several new maps and units, alongside a post detailing how they are currently 50% of the way through phase 1 of their custom campaign with their own custom campaign map of Middle Earth.
    Check out the mod discord here - / discord
    The Creator of the trailer - / @uvatha.
    0:00 Intro
    3:28 battle starts
    7:36 Ladders at the wall
    10:55 The wall explodes
    26:50 The Final Stand
    #totalwar #lordoftherings
    ⚔️Patreon - / jackiefish
    ⚔️twitter - / jackiefishhh
    ⚔️discord - / discord
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  • @JackieFishHD
    @JackieFishHD  11 місяців тому +19

    Check out the mod discord here - discord.gg/tdd

    • @TheDawnlessDays
      @TheDawnlessDays 11 місяців тому +5

      Get in if you can help us with your 3D or 2D skills! 💖

  • @TheDawnlessDays
    @TheDawnlessDays 11 місяців тому +268

    Thank you Jackie for covering this update! After all those Byzantine walled submods made by the community, isn’t it nice to have an official Helm’s Deep? 😏 Palotti had to move every single stone to to make that explosion.

  • @sirpalotti1953
    @sirpalotti1953 11 місяців тому +132

    Hi, i am the one who mad the Helm's Deep model and put it in game, thanks a lot about your opinion regarding the game design, i took some risks but it worked well in the end. Btw for the wall explosion was a lot of trial and errors with simulations, terrain physics and attrition but i managed to get an explosion that doesn't shoot the pieces everywhere along the map.

    • @BenjaminKoops
      @BenjaminKoops 11 місяців тому +3

      Looks amazing, thank you!

    • @Inquisitor_Vex
      @Inquisitor_Vex 11 місяців тому +2

      You did awesome, bro. o7

    • @fatboiplaysvr3523
      @fatboiplaysvr3523 11 місяців тому +1

      Bro u are legend this map looks great.

    • @davidyoung2553
      @davidyoung2553 11 місяців тому +1

      Look freaking awesome.

    • @RyanB0306
      @RyanB0306 10 місяців тому +3

      Thank you for your hard work and patience with this mod!

  • @Uvatha.
    @Uvatha. 11 місяців тому +65

    Hey Jackie , i'm the guy that made the trailer , it's a pleasure to see youtubers such as you making videos showing the trailer
    i (obviously) had the opportunity to play this map earlier, the map is really a masterchief , especially concerning the details of the citadel

    • @JackieFishHD
      @JackieFishHD  11 місяців тому +2

      Awesome stuff man the trailer is great! I will add you channel to the desc of the video :)

    • @Uvatha.
      @Uvatha. 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@JackieFishHD It's an honor ! Thank you friend
      A long version should come in the following weeks , with a complete machinima of the battle for helm's deep

  • @Tyran840
    @Tyran840 11 місяців тому +14

    Everyone: "Yeeee explosion, death, bashing some orcs". Me *giggling to see my terrain on video*

  • @navneetsingh1726
    @navneetsingh1726 11 місяців тому +54

    When the campaign will be ready then this game will surpass all the total war sales combined ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥
    Thank u so much modders for this
    Keep up the good work ❤

    • @abcmaster9
      @abcmaster9 9 місяців тому

      Lets just hope they don't get slapped with a C&D by Amazon. 😢

    • @rrrAustralianusvids93
      @rrrAustralianusvids93 3 дні тому

      @@abcmaster9 I don't think Amazon owns the rights to peter jacksons Lotr.

  • @matthewcrooks29
    @matthewcrooks29 11 місяців тому +8

    Looks like meat is back on the menu, boys!!!

  • @jadebrunner8699
    @jadebrunner8699 11 місяців тому +4

    They have passed like rain on the mountain,
    like wind in the meadows,
    the days have gone down in the West into shadow.

  • @sakkebombb7759
    @sakkebombb7759 11 місяців тому +3

    Great video! I'm excited for the campaign portion of the mod, very happy to hear its 50% complete! Looking forward to more videos covering this mod

  • @phantomnorseman
    @phantomnorseman 11 місяців тому +12

    It’s so beautiful! I cannot wait for a campaign map where you can actually play through the war of the ring.

  • @MarkGlowInTheDark
    @MarkGlowInTheDark 11 місяців тому +2

    It's amazing to see a whole new version and tactics for this Helms Deep map. Great compliments to the makers of the map and to the creators of the mod. I am absolutely looking forward what new things will come over time. You are all amazing, and thanks Jackiefish for covering the replay

  • @kikoredog
    @kikoredog 10 місяців тому +1

    4:55 how you miss the opportunity to say "and so it begins"

  • @Caeso1332
    @Caeso1332 11 місяців тому +6

    NAaaaa, this is maaad. Hyped hyped hyped !

  • @anonymussicarius8899
    @anonymussicarius8899 11 місяців тому +5

    Awsome map! TDD did it again! Can´t wait to play there for myself! :D

  • @jackmcdonald7372
    @jackmcdonald7372 10 місяців тому

    It's really nice to see how much time and effort went into this it looks just like the movie and on top of that even the mountains and the background look amazing

  • @donaldcrawfordiii554
    @donaldcrawfordiii554 11 місяців тому +1

    Thankyou so much Jackie for showing this! Means a lot sir, not having to see BA mode this and that. Once again thankyou sir

    • @TheDawnlessDays
      @TheDawnlessDays 11 місяців тому +1

      This is Total War: Attila, my man.

  • @Reaper08
    @Reaper08 11 місяців тому +7

    The Hornburg is the actual fortress, Helms Deep is the gorge.

  • @DeadLikeMeJ
    @DeadLikeMeJ 11 місяців тому +10

    This looks really good, I love the ammo supply locations, I wrote for years that it doesn't make defenders have the same ammo as in a field battle - really good feature, if only CA could learn from this. P.s. why not night battle ? where are the tourchs ? where is the rain ?
    p.s. shame no official soundtrack :(

    • @austinduff6493
      @austinduff6493 11 місяців тому +1

      People think they want things like ammo supply until it’s used against them, if they added half the features people want them too hell even 25% the game would be to hard and only people like myself who already use every mod possible to make the game more challenging would find any joy In it, ancient empires with submods I think is the best total war experience but they could never do it as an actual game, people want arcade style battles, they don’t want to see their men mass retreat because they ran them j stead of walked them, they don’t want to see a horse archer army be able to go back to their supply wagons thus allowing ranged to never have to engage, people don’t want heavy cav to be nearly unstoppable, people don’t want men at the walls to stab guys on the ladders as they climb, people don’t want the AI to starve out their settlements every single time unless you sally or reinforce, there are a lot of things CA does on purpose to make things fun and people forget that just because it works in a mod like this where say some evil units are 3x bigger with 300 guys a unit or have 10x the hipoints like trolls, and with the upkeep of the evil faction they will always be able to field 4-5 full stacks of orcs to 1 of the hood guys, thus the extra arrows make sense

    • @DeadLikeMeJ
      @DeadLikeMeJ 11 місяців тому +2

      @@austinduff6493 While I agree that CA obviously do a lot of things because they think they are fun design and I agree not everything people get excited about is good for them, I would disagree with a lot of what you said.
      I agree a lot of the current WH crowd and even some of the older crowd want things that I would consider harmful for the expeirence, candies if I may. But the fact someone wants a candy, doesn't mean its healthy for them for the long run. And in fact many of CA's choices to design to make the game fun are actually killing TW on the long run the way I see it, and time will tell if I am right. They streamlined their games to the point that even long time TW players find themselves paying campaigns for 60~ turns before they had enough of it, fun sure, but for a short run, not long run. Same goes for CA and the power creep issue (which they use to sell their DLC).
      Every feature needs to be well designed, its not about adding or removing just one feature, its about balancing features and systems together, interwinding them, and desinging them to have counters and equvilent replacements. I am not familiar with Dawnless Days balancing, so I didn't speak on it in specific, and I don't know if its balanced or not there. But when I look at sieges from a design perspective - I am 100% standing behind what I have said.
      Obviously this feature shouldn't be disconnected from other aspects of the game whether it is in battle or in campaign, this can tie to buildings that were built in the provice and the way it refills ammo needs to have a counter available to deal with it.
      As long as the feature makes sense and is implamented both design wise and AI wise properly I am 100% in favor of it being added. Unfortunately its been a while since CA did anything like that.

    • @TheDawnlessDays
      @TheDawnlessDays 11 місяців тому +4

      The torches are there you just see them less because it's daylight; the official soundtrack is in, but the video will get a copyright strike if it plays it, so Jackie - as we do in our channel - is using our official soundtrack, clearly based on the OST. We didn't do a night battle because we wanted everything to be seen, there'll be plenty of recreations of the real battle!

  • @v_cpt-phasma_v689
    @v_cpt-phasma_v689 11 місяців тому +5

    it still baffles me how CA have never made a LOTR or GOT game, i know the ip's are probably expensive but they'd 100% sell very well

    • @davidyoung2553
      @davidyoung2553 11 місяців тому +3

      I'm surprised too. The community for both are huge. I would love to see both come to total war. It would be awesome. It would be interesting to see how they add the dragons into the game of thrones total war. Probably would look a lot like Warhammer

  • @SGallahadd
    @SGallahadd 10 місяців тому

    This is so nostalgic for me as I played Warcraft 3 Helm's Deep as a kid and of course watched the movies. This is so cool that Helm's Deep lives on through more video games.

  • @codyritner3826
    @codyritner3826 5 місяців тому

    I thought the orca matching at first was a movie scene... that's badass.

  • @Fungus8mycrab
    @Fungus8mycrab 11 місяців тому +2

    I already know who I plan on playing given the chance. Glory to Arnor. (But if Arnor isn't released when the campaign comes out then Glory to Dale)

  • @bobbolan4672
    @bobbolan4672 11 місяців тому +4

    Oh yeah, some LOTR content. LETS GO!!!!

  • @FlAw88
    @FlAw88 11 місяців тому +6

    Where is Gandalf and the Rohirrim...?

    • @fluets5658
      @fluets5658 11 місяців тому +4

      Stuck in traffic on the M6.

  • @JustanerOwO2001
    @JustanerOwO2001 10 місяців тому +2

    Having a Total War: LOTR, would be insanely Epic to have.

  • @kalafinwe5498
    @kalafinwe5498 11 місяців тому +1

    Holy fuck, that explosion near the end at 28:11 left me with a pikachu face.

  • @rham5817
    @rham5817 6 місяців тому

    Beautiful map. Just well done. It looks fantastic.

  • @ThunderMoon6458
    @ThunderMoon6458 11 місяців тому +1

    Battle of helms deep is still awesome and the hornburg is a castle I would love to have

  • @ThunderingVipers
    @ThunderingVipers 11 місяців тому +1

    I am amazed the fps did not drop down to under 10

  • @winndypops
    @winndypops 10 місяців тому +3

    The idea that we will at some point actually have a full Campaign one day for Dawnless Days is absolutely wild.

  • @bronze4871
    @bronze4871 10 місяців тому

    So good !!

  • @gandalf4751
    @gandalf4751 11 місяців тому +3

    The lord of the rings 😍😍😍😍😍

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... 9 місяців тому

    Amazing!

  • @miquelr2353
    @miquelr2353 11 місяців тому +1

    How come mods are so much better than the vanilla game

  • @TheRogueJedii
    @TheRogueJedii 11 місяців тому +3

    Awesome, hope this gets a release soon!

    • @zacaboy3001
      @zacaboy3001 11 місяців тому +3

      It’s getting released 1st of September

    • @hellsgaming4977
      @hellsgaming4977 11 місяців тому

      But Its Already 1st Of September For Us Aussies@@zacaboy3001

    • @born2build537
      @born2build537 11 місяців тому

      @@zacaboy3001do you know how to update the mod or does it auto update?

  • @tigerkrieger1246
    @tigerkrieger1246 11 місяців тому +5

    W

  • @colbyduggan5733
    @colbyduggan5733 11 місяців тому +1

    its not the true battle without the calvary coming in to help and save the day but still a very cool mod

  • @Blastermanx
    @Blastermanx 10 місяців тому

    I like the one where the defendes were smart and invented the Gatling gun lol

  • @dy9455
    @dy9455 10 місяців тому

    i bought attila just for this mod. i hope campaign will come soon

  • @jig-ga
    @jig-ga 10 місяців тому

    this map alone makes me wanna install the game again

  • @dr.trashbag
    @dr.trashbag 10 місяців тому +1

    beautiful map

  • @counterfan90
    @counterfan90 11 місяців тому +1

    I thought the campaign map wasnt moddable.
    Thats great news 😊😊😊

    • @TheDawnlessDays
      @TheDawnlessDays 11 місяців тому

      Yes it is! We're working on it as we speak!

  • @ghostly6175
    @ghostly6175 11 місяців тому

    I cant wait til we have the capability to do a battle with actual tens of thousands of units on the map

  • @James-ju4gj
    @James-ju4gj 10 місяців тому

    Soon this mod might get me to give up my 24 simultaneous DAC campaigns...

  • @cacsoccer101
    @cacsoccer101 10 місяців тому

    I think we saw how the movie scene would have ended up had reinforcements not shown up.

  • @Subaruruu
    @Subaruruu 10 місяців тому

    I have to ask, how did you manage your units to not have animation lag?

  • @RiccardoItalia592
    @RiccardoItalia592 8 місяців тому

    Why don't I have the Helm's Deep map? I downloaded the mod but it's not there

  • @alexkeeling2402
    @alexkeeling2402 10 місяців тому

    Creative Assembly and Sega really need to make a Lord of the Rings Total War

  • @TheQuantixXx
    @TheQuantixXx 6 місяців тому +1

    i think the map is too big. the scale is off. not sure if this was intentional to improve battle mechanics.

  • @CrimsonBae
    @CrimsonBae 11 місяців тому

    All it takes is one Zhao Ming with blade of Slaanesh

  • @GrandAdmThrawn
    @GrandAdmThrawn 11 місяців тому

    Victory for the Good side.

  • @samharris1623
    @samharris1623 11 місяців тому

    Are we getting lord of the rings on console?

  • @camraid9
    @camraid9 11 місяців тому

    Very cool. Your camera work is a bit jerky though

  • @HaydarPulla
    @HaydarPulla 9 місяців тому

    Can you please tell me the mods you use?

  • @mattylahd6285
    @mattylahd6285 10 місяців тому

    I would really love for someone to walk me through in downloading this sort of gameplay :/. Can never seem to get it right

    • @JackieFishHD
      @JackieFishHD  10 місяців тому

      join the mods discord and ask there!

  • @dogukantepe5220
    @dogukantepe5220 10 місяців тому

    where is big balista ?

  • @3doorsdown4lifetimo
    @3doorsdown4lifetimo 11 місяців тому +1

    I dont care that it has been 8Y since the start of the project. Take another 3Y to polish it if you want as l

  • @Zarn130
    @Zarn130 11 місяців тому

    Dunland Supremancy

  • @lukenorris7677
    @lukenorris7677 11 місяців тому

    I'm so lost how many different LOTR mods are there total war games

    • @TheDawnlessDays
      @TheDawnlessDays 11 місяців тому +1

      We're the only one for modern TW games 😏 (formerly Rise of Mordor)

    • @lukenorris7677
      @lukenorris7677 11 місяців тому

      @TheDawnlessDays is there other LOTR mods using RTW2 or atilia. The last mod I used for LOTR was for M2TW

    • @TheDawnlessDays
      @TheDawnlessDays 11 місяців тому +1

      @@lukenorris7677 nope, we are the only one for Attila and we were a mod way back when for Rome 2, but we moved because Attila is much more customizable.

  • @simonlenepveu3134
    @simonlenepveu3134 11 місяців тому +1

    how do you download this update if you don't have the launcher

    • @TheDawnlessDays
      @TheDawnlessDays 11 місяців тому +2

      Same way as any other update. Alpha Version from NexusMods.

    • @simonlenepveu3134
      @simonlenepveu3134 11 місяців тому

      ​@@TheDawnlessDays it says the mod is quarantined is that something I can fix.

    • @TheDawnlessDays
      @TheDawnlessDays 11 місяців тому

      @@simonlenepveu3134 no, you either download with the launcher or wait until Nexus gets it out of quarantine. We’ve contacted them.

  • @camh3429
    @camh3429 11 місяців тому

    Sorry it just really hurt to hear the wall referred to as "The Hornberg"

  • @bluecollarbionics
    @bluecollarbionics 11 місяців тому

    @jackiefishHD what game is this ?

    • @TheDawnlessDays
      @TheDawnlessDays 11 місяців тому

      The Dawnless Days, a mod for Total War: Attila.

  • @ashbery76
    @ashbery76 11 місяців тому

    Wut are Elves doing there.

  • @analogsamurai9576
    @analogsamurai9576 10 місяців тому

    lmao neutral to the despair of this part of the story play by play football announcer of helms deep

  • @eduardomario7412
    @eduardomario7412 10 місяців тому

    Whats the requirements to play this mod? Only attila or expansions

  • @mayazmahmud1740
    @mayazmahmud1740 11 місяців тому

    dont total war attila have night map?

    • @JackieFishHD
      @JackieFishHD  11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah but it always show up really bad on youtube, so better to fight in the day

  • @matilinjosselin6364
    @matilinjosselin6364 11 місяців тому

    11.00 haw did he does this ? to be in cinematic mod?

    • @sirpalotti290
      @sirpalotti290 11 місяців тому

      It's a button that hides all the HUD, it should be K, i don't remember

    • @matilinjosselin6364
      @matilinjosselin6364 11 місяців тому

      @@sirpalotti290 okay Thanks dude you teached me the right button, huge Kiss from France

  • @granola661
    @granola661 10 місяців тому

    I think it's a bit too upscaled

  • @mike5d1
    @mike5d1 11 місяців тому

    Why can we never have a canonically accurate simulation of The Battle Of the Hornburg? Why do people always have to follow the films?

    • @TheDawnlessDays
      @TheDawnlessDays 11 місяців тому +1

      You can. We just chose not to in order to show off the map, which is based on the movie because our mod is visually based on the movies, while the campaign / design is based on the lore and the books.

    • @sirpalotti1953
      @sirpalotti1953 11 місяців тому

      Maybe one day i will do a submod with Lore accurate Hornburg

  • @RobertMunteanu105
    @RobertMunteanu105 11 місяців тому

    why 18000? there were 10000 orcs in the lore...

  • @nelson_drums6785
    @nelson_drums6785 11 місяців тому

    We need some more Byzantine episodes from in the name of Jerusalem 2

  • @kharnthebetrayer8251
    @kharnthebetrayer8251 11 місяців тому +4

    I think if anything, the castle is TOO big
    Everything looks very scattered, more like 5 different small battles instead of a single giant battle

    • @TheDawnlessDays
      @TheDawnlessDays 11 місяців тому +11

      That’s because in every mod the battle just becomes an unbalanced slogfest. We wanted to make it interesting and see if you can actually hold up 😏

    • @victimized1
      @victimized1 11 місяців тому +12

      Well, it's trade-offs. Either you get an unplayable battle or you get a stretched castle. It's a game after all, so we decided the worse trade off is the map will be unplayable, and hence the choice. It's a total war game after all

    • @HPS-Wes
      @HPS-Wes 11 місяців тому

      think thats a completely valid argument. Wasn't much difference in third age total war either.@@victimized1

    • @victimized1
      @victimized1 11 місяців тому +2

      @@HPS-WesNot sure what you mean

  • @singingtaxidriver64
    @singingtaxidriver64 4 місяці тому

    very poor defence

  • @SaintPegasusSeiya
    @SaintPegasusSeiya 11 місяців тому +1

    I don't like that the fortress is too big. This is not to scale, right?

    • @farfadet_
      @farfadet_ 11 місяців тому +6

      It's indeed bigger for gameplay purposes. Jackie goes pretty well over the details why it will make the map more enjoyable to play.

  • @LucaPala
    @LucaPala 4 місяці тому

    Beautiful work, I just can’t stand the scale of Helm’s Deep, is way off. 20 thousand men can t cover all the terrain, makes it feel less real if you are a fan of the movies. It is my only doubt, these modders are heroes.

  • @daffyf6829
    @daffyf6829 11 місяців тому +1

    Total war is just the worst for siege warfare, and i feel bad saying this for a video where the modders put in so much hard work. It's like they made a fantastic sand castle out of used kitty litter.

  • @avrace2708
    @avrace2708 11 місяців тому +1

    I dont like that Helms Deep it's always so huge in those battles, it also dont look good. If prefer that smaller version in movies

    • @victimized1
      @victimized1 11 місяців тому

      Then it will be unplayable. Don't forget what game this is for.

    • @Ghost-fc9hw
      @Ghost-fc9hw 9 місяців тому +1

      You either get an unplayable slog of chokepoints and routing, and hard to position troops, or you get this. Notice how they didn't commit immediately to the gate, and instead hard pushed the field

  • @quentingambade2473
    @quentingambade2473 6 місяців тому

    Stop talking please just let the video and a music

  • @PackaGame
    @PackaGame 11 місяців тому +2

    Boringly one sided

  • @pokeyerface
    @pokeyerface 11 місяців тому

    BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO😮😯😲😳🤩🙂🙃

  • @Kallikukurinn
    @Kallikukurinn 11 місяців тому +2

    That second explosion was pretty unfair, not gonna lie. Very unbalanced~