@@MarkHogan994 did the debates make headlines? I don't think so, that's the point he's making. The point he's making is that we're looking at digital lines on a screen to determine what body part is beyond the last defender, the rules for handball have changed and are now delegated to VAR if in the penalty box, then the ref has to go to the screen to check if the VAR decision is valid THIS is what he meant. We now have something to blame as VAR is a 3rd party with the ability to replay moments in a game and give their subjective opinion, the human element has been taken out as the referee and officials gave the first and last call, if he didn't see the handball, not given, if the linesman didn't see the offside not given, that's the beauty behind sport, PEOPLE not technology
It definitely did make headlines, just one springs to mind straight away.. the Chelsea vs Barca CL game. VAR would have made that game last till next year with all the bad decisions. I think the headline was “it’s a f**king disgrace”
He's referring to the debate the upstairs officials make in slowing the game down then some people still wish to debate it. Let the on-field referee's referee the game. Have the on-field constantly upskilled to officiate the games.
I don’t like VAR as it is, but only using it in the semis and final is absolutely ridiculous. What, so if last night was a quarter final, Solankes goal would’ve stood? Okay then
Issue is that VAR was meant to come in and solve the poor referee calls. Instead it's magnifying poor calls and slowing down the game to a disgusting pace. It needs scrapping, it's already completely messed up a world cup. It just seems to allow for more and more corruption. Gone are the days you could just celebrate a goal as it goes in. Absolutely mad how we're allowing this destruction to happen.
Think people tend to forget what came before, VAR has many drawbacks, but do people not remember incorrectly given penalties or red cards that were given in the past i definitely do i remember being left fuming that my team had lost a game because of a fully wrong decision and there was nothing you could do about it, maybe there wasn't as much media attention on it but fans definitely felt this
@@jamesduffy7549 Yeah that's probably true, VAR probably means there are less completely wrong decisions but the refs do seem to get more wrong than they should. I think the decision making of the refs isn't great but I think if you take away VAR you get more big wrong decisions
@@cweston9440 it’s simple, no one in their right mind can actually argue var has improved the game and if you do you clearly didn’t like football that much in the first place 😂
@cweston9440 I wouldn't say so. VAR has definitely overcomplicated the game now, which actually tips it more the other way. You can see the officials aren't even that sure themselves whether they think they have made the correct decisions. Without Var, as we've seen, yes, there was plenty of human error, but that's just life unfortunately... that will always happen anywhere. But how Var is being used today, I think a lot would prefer it to be scrapped and move on. Too much confusion in the game now. Not enjoyable anymore.
That would assume that clubs vote based on what their manager wants, which seems unlikely as he's been against VAR since it was implemented in the SPFL.
@@DavidsonDave my point was more based on how he claims he’s the only speaking up against it, when there’s clearly been effort from other clubs/fans to protest it
I’m pro VAR but I think offside is too critical… if any part of your body is on side then your on side. We used to time runs so your rear leg was on side but you were ready / on your way. This “his big toe is off side so he’s offside “ is bullshit .
You've got to be joking right? 😂 The officiating in the championship is a certified joke. Scorelines and results are constantly dictated by officials incorrect decisions. What the hell are you watching? 😂
The problem is where the VAR is used and where its not. Its causing too much confusion and no one can agree on anything. Its just slowly ripping the game apart.
And yet football is as globally popular as it has ever been. About time you people got a better argument other than "it's killing the game" , when every measurable metric can tell you that that isn't true.
Yeah, No one talked about decisions before VAR. What a joke of a statement LMAO. If someone from football said, "Hand of God", we all know what they are talking about.
The point of var was to eliminate all "clear and obvious" errors. They are not doing that if they have to draw a line across the pitch to see if someone was offside, that is not clear and obvious. I think that the referee on the pitch should look at var, not someone in a box at times about 130 miles away.
We debate these things because the media want something to talk about. Media creates controversy, controversy creates viewership, and this brings more scrutiny (from people that never actually played the game) which pressurises the game to change. We are trying to bring certainty to decisions which will always have an element of subjectivity. Only now there is no excuse to get things 'wrong'. Gone are the days of respect for ref's discretion. Fundamental lessons which sport used to teach us are being lost - Learning to respect one another. Learning to deal with decisions that don't go your way. Learning to control the controllables and let go of the rest. Accepting refs (like all players and mere mortals) are imperfect and will make mistakes. This is what it means to be human. The issue at hand is the commercialisation of sport and a loss of values. We are killing what makes the game beautiful.
Some pragmatic ideas for the road we find ourselves on could be: - Bring more transparency to the governance and performance management of referees'. Reassure the public that refs are being held accountable. Allow players to review and rate the performance of refs. How well did they communicate? Were they consistent? etc. - Remove subjectivity where possible. If the ball touches your hand, it is a hand ball (this might create more goals, great). If you are offside, VAR will alert refs. If the ball goes out of play alert the ref. - Remove VAR from subjective decisions which are open to interpretation. Leave to refs discretion. - Give the captain 2 or 3 chances to have the Ref review a decision in partnership with VAR. - Consider Mic'ing up Refs so that the public can understand the thinking process of the Ref and greater understand the perceptions and interpretations of the ref.
VAR is absolute crap and is ruining football both for the viewer sat at home and the fans in the stadium. It leads to long delays that disrupt the flow of the game, and make for a boring spectacle. It hasn’t worked, so mag to grid it👍
I think VAR should only be used in foul play or penalty checks. Disallowed goals for being an inch offside taking hours to check disrupts play. That’s why we have refs and linesman. Ultimately it should be there decision now also audio aswell we dont need it
Offside if it’s very close then the lineman should just give the advantage to the attacker and keep his flag down. Disallowing beautiful important goals after a four minute check as a toenail is offside is absolute insanity of the highest order. Linesman does offsides it’s what he’s there for, it’s a fast flowing game not an FBI forensic examination of a crime scene.
@ I’ve seen var checks nearly ten minutes long. If it’s not clear give the goal. It disrupts the flow the momentum the players thinking it’s a joke it should be used a second ref to see things the ref misses not to make the decisions for him. Never been a fan and now audio rubbish aswell lol
Please get rid of VAR until they can make the correct decision instantly without delaying the game and going backward... VAR is running the joy of scoring in football...
so u want things to go back to total referee tyranny? This is an absolutely stinker take. VAR isnt always great, but it has made decision making much more fairer than it used to be
@@mistzzz4683Doesn't make any difference, the officials operating it today still have the last say, and how many have they blatantly fucked up on?? I've lost count. Var has completely overcomplicated today's game, where even more mistakes are now made, as opposed to not having it in place with all the confusion it has now caused. You can see the officials aren't even sure anymore if they've made the correct decisions. Human error will always happen regardless, but this system in place today is on another scale. The game is not enjoyable whatsoever. A good majority would prefer this to be scrapped and revert to the old way. Surely if you've watched enough football you would support other's comments for the abolishment of this.
It's like people forgot that VAR exists because officials kept on screwing it up. Why on earth do you want to go back to the days of Chelsea vs Barca 2009?
That anoucement was pointless we could see It was off side from the lines how ever I thought the all point off it was to be used when it's a close call and the ref looks and var screen and makes the final decision then announces why he made his decision? I mean all he did there really Is say solanke was off side yeah we knew that.
I wish they’d only rule offsides with VAR if the attacker was completely passed the line. This business of ruling off a goal because someones toe was offsides robs us of excitement in my opinion.
Ange is correct. That nonsense last night did nothing g for the game. It’s just americanising it for tv. Al you need is the screen to display what’s happening and then tell you the result. The problem is the ref will hold up the game whilst they check something and then start the game and the fans don’t know what’s happening. Then maybe they’ll flash up checking penalty and instantly say no penalty when the games already started. That’s anges problems with it. It doesn’t help itself. It’s used poorly.
The announcement was a waste of time today. But it won’t on controversial decisions. Ange is an idiot though, we always debated all these things. What is he talking about?
Advantage was played to allow a promising attack to continue and Liverpool even ended that move with a shot on target, so no yellow card. A goal scoring opportunity developed and everything. All in the rules. You can argue that a yellow card offence is a yellow card offence as much as you like, but then you could argue that Newcastle's handball leading to a goal against Spurs last week was obviously a handball. Technically the rules allow the game to continue in both cases without any action from the ref.
People are protective but what are we meant to do like literally we protest our stance against it and shout at the side-lines apart from that Ange its you people within football that has the actual power to stop it.
Ange has missed 40 years of history. There was a time when favouritism was blatant. You knew George Courtney would give Man Utd or Liverpool; a consistent advantage over Leicester or Birmingham. VAR is just a way of being seen to be fair, without actually being fair!
@LaidbackJack1 I'm lucky enough to have seen Maldini the first time round. I agree with the rough point you're making....I agree the games gone soft....but to say the second tackle isn't a yellow is a bit of a reach isn't it ffs 😅 Absolute textbook yellow card since mid-90s!
@@thewengerinn5555 Except as Ange and Slot said; the rules state they don't give yellows for non-cynical fouls after advantage is played, making it by definition, not a yellow.
All that is needed is a rugby style TMO where you can hear the discussion between the referee and the VAR officials, would add context to what they're looking at rather than the radio silence, its okay on TV as you have the commentary but when you're there in the stadium there is no way to know what is going on...
VAR is one of the reasons I gave up my season ticket. But the thing that really hacks me off is supporters who are blind to the other team. Every team is capable of playing well and still losing. Equally you can be rubbish and still win. Too many fans have no objectivity and see the game through red and white or blue or White and navy tinted spectacles. Grow up!
I'm with Ange - what has VAR added? If you're in the stadium you can't cheer until you're sure someone's toenail hasn't played him offside. If it hits someone's hand, there's an endless debate of what is 'natural'. Get rid.
Why do people use this clearly untrue argument? Fans still cheer goals when they hit the back of the net. That has literally never changed. If VAR awards the goal, fans cheer a second time. If VAR chalks the goal off, the opposition fans celebrate. This "fans can't celebrate" nonsense that people like you keep spewing is categorically not true and literally does not happen at all lol. Get a better argument instead of this blatant lie.
As a season ticket holder at Rugby Park I can assure you that while you might cheer, you’ve got one eye on the ref. It’s changed the dynamic. Of course, it’s probably different if you’re watching on telly eh? ;-)
@@modskillslebonSo why aren’t Liverpool fans crediting the referee for making the right decision now hypocrite much nah ? If it was the same referee I would understand that they would want consistency but it’s not the same the other ref shouldn’t have sent Jota off but this one made the right decision by not sending Bergvall off 🤷🏼♂️
@@modskillslebonwhat about when jota drop kicked skipp in the head a few seasons ago didn’t get a second yellow then went and scored a few seasons back
He literally says in this second presser they were told that playing advantage was going to remove a lot of yellow cards unless they were cynical tackles. Listen to the video before complaining.
He is right The people who are running the game at the top are they ever played professionally when they say the people want it it’s it’s just nice TV companies who like the drama shame I thought they brought this in to capture all Fowls, even when the referee and not seen the cheating the diving all of it
Wasn't this same guy who said we shouldn't blame VAR and refs when he came in last season?.😂 Things were going out well for him but now he's been criticizing refs so much
So much? He's always been anti VAR. Last weekend he was fuming at the ref and all he said was things aren't fair and balanced. That's all he said. He is so much better than most other managers
He said at Celtic he didn’t like var and he wasn’t in favour of it. He never directly criticised a ref whilst at Celtic. He right though. That nonsense last night offered nothing to the game. It’s just americanising the game for tv. All you need is the screen to say checking office then offside.The problem is the often don’t announce what’s going on. You just see the ref holding his arm up to stop plays then nothing happens and the game restarts.
Like most managers total hypocrite and suffers from myopia. "we never used to debate offsides...." on what planet was he living? You can bet your bottom dollar if the goal scorer for Liverpool should have been sent off he would have something to say about it. Cannot stand Ange.
Somebody needs to remind teletubby that they're people in the stadium who are visionary impaired, maybe he should take that into consideration. Hate this dude never answers a question simply. 🙄
Nothing wrong with the technology. Used in other sports without issue. Difference is football introduced subjectivity into an objective system making it worse than not having it. Webb and his biased band are the actual issue
Football is subjective is refereeing not yes or no. Its always been like this, he'd be moaning about offsides against spurs if it wasnt there. Youll be out of a job soon anyway Ange so you don't have to put up with this much longer.
These guys are always complaining about modern technology.. It's the same modern technology that keeps players fit and play even beyond 30 years of age.. It's the same modern technology that revitalizes players even from ACLs.. If they're so tired of the modern tech then they're free to go back to wearing medieval wears, come to stadiums on horses and play with bow arrows and big daggers
Ahh it’s still ‘Woe is me’ is it Ange? Any word on the player who scored the winning goal when he should have been sent off and the Liverpool player having to be off the pitch due to the tackle during the goal?
@@Big-q2vhe should never have been sent off, that first yellow is the most ridiculous thing I've seen. Liverpool player was absolutely fine, if he'd got up rather than acting he'd still have been on the pitch. I support neither of you.
Spot on, VAR AND PEP, are destroying football, as we once knew it previously. Bring back entertaining the fans, as a neutral, Ange is great for our game, I just wish there were others with the same insight into the simple game of football. 👍🙏🏻🙏🏻
I would coach my players to immediately stop 🛑 If it means a second yellow 🟨🟨 It is mathematical better thing to do It's professional sports Liverpool should off stopped Too bad so sad
I like Ange but saying we never used to debate handballs and offsides before VAR is just completely untrue. We absolutely did, and we always will.
@@MarkHogan994 did the debates make headlines? I don't think so, that's the point he's making. The point he's making is that we're looking at digital lines on a screen to determine what body part is beyond the last defender, the rules for handball have changed and are now delegated to VAR if in the penalty box, then the ref has to go to the screen to check if the VAR decision is valid THIS is what he meant. We now have something to blame as VAR is a 3rd party with the ability to replay moments in a game and give their subjective opinion, the human element has been taken out as the referee and officials gave the first and last call, if he didn't see the handball, not given, if the linesman didn't see the offside not given, that's the beauty behind sport, PEOPLE not technology
It definitely did make headlines, just one springs to mind straight away.. the Chelsea vs Barca CL game.
VAR would have made that game last till next year with all the bad decisions.
I think the headline was “it’s a f**king disgrace”
It’s literally the reason VAR exists hahah
He's referring to the debate the upstairs officials make in slowing the game down then some people still wish to debate it. Let the on-field referee's referee the game. Have the on-field constantly upskilled to officiate the games.
Didn't change rules as often as now though, they're changing them every season.
I don’t like VAR as it is, but only using it in the semis and final is absolutely ridiculous. What, so if last night was a quarter final, Solankes goal would’ve stood? Okay then
Or the flag would have gone up. They run the line differently when var is in use.
Spurs already cheated their way through United in the QF. If the home stadium has it installed, it should be used. End of.
@decidev No, Manchester United are just awful plain and simple. Stop crying and get over it
@decidevThat is major cope
@@prod.jetset2294 Spurs are also pretty awful, in his defence 😂
Issue is that VAR was meant to come in and solve the poor referee calls. Instead it's magnifying poor calls and slowing down the game to a disgusting pace.
It needs scrapping, it's already completely messed up a world cup. It just seems to allow for more and more corruption.
Gone are the days you could just celebrate a goal as it goes in. Absolutely mad how we're allowing this destruction to happen.
Think people tend to forget what came before, VAR has many drawbacks, but do people not remember incorrectly given penalties or red cards that were given in the past i definitely do i remember being left fuming that my team had lost a game because of a fully wrong decision and there was nothing you could do about it, maybe there wasn't as much media attention on it but fans definitely felt this
Your argument only works if we don't give those now, which we do. So what's the point of it?
You might have been fuming but you will have moved on. VAR decisions go on and on and on. Ruining the game
@@jamesduffy7549 Yeah that's probably true, VAR probably means there are less completely wrong decisions but the refs do seem to get more wrong than they should. I think the decision making of the refs isn't great but I think if you take away VAR you get more big wrong decisions
@@cweston9440 it’s simple, no one in their right mind can actually argue var has improved the game and if you do you clearly didn’t like football that much in the first place 😂
@cweston9440 I wouldn't say so. VAR has definitely overcomplicated the game now, which actually tips it more the other way. You can see the officials aren't even that sure themselves whether they think they have made the correct decisions. Without Var, as we've seen, yes, there was plenty of human error, but that's just life unfortunately... that will always happen anywhere. But how Var is being used today, I think a lot would prefer it to be scrapped and move on. Too much confusion in the game now. Not enjoyable anymore.
Fairly sure people have tried to speak up on it. Wolves voted on getting rid of var in the summer, and teams like Tottenham voted for it.
Seems like Tottenham changed their mind
That would assume that clubs vote based on what their manager wants, which seems unlikely as he's been against VAR since it was implemented in the SPFL.
@@DavidsonDave my point was more based on how he claims he’s the only speaking up against it, when there’s clearly been effort from other clubs/fans to protest it
VAR isnt crap when its simply the people using that are bad. Every other league has VAR and their refs are competent.
@@stevenjoseph6048 you clearly don't watch other leagues 😂 it's the exact same in la liga and bundesliga
@@peterpauloreilly4993even worse in turkey
@@davidjabon508 turkey is explicitly corrupt. They don't try to hide it.
Just remember folks - Wolves voted to remove VAR and everyone - including Tottenham - voted to keep it.
What is the delay with automated offside?
We are not there yet.. At this pont its still dodgy lines on a ruler.. Auto offside comes in later.
I’m pro VAR but I think offside is too critical… if any part of your body is on side then your on side. We used to time runs so your rear leg was on side but you were ready / on your way. This “his big toe is off side so he’s offside “ is bullshit .
That's fine, as long as you'd be OK with "his heel was half a centimetre offside" in your scenario?
One appeal for each manager per game. If their appeal was found to be correct, they get an extra one. I honestly think this is the best solution.
The championship is a relief to watch and very rare there is a problem.
Except the referees and officials are pretty awful.
@mackemmoolah Absolutely, gets far worse in L1 and L2.
@@mackemmoolah U are spot on
You've got to be joking right? 😂
The officiating in the championship is a certified joke. Scorelines and results are constantly dictated by officials incorrect decisions. What the hell are you watching? 😂
@@GGMatt Cant U understand what i am saying, try again
The problem is where the VAR is used and where its not. Its causing too much confusion and no one can agree on anything. Its just slowly ripping the game apart.
And yet football is as globally popular as it has ever been.
About time you people got a better argument other than "it's killing the game" , when every measurable metric can tell you that that isn't true.
Yeah, No one talked about decisions before VAR. What a joke of a statement LMAO.
If someone from football said, "Hand of God", we all know what they are talking about.
The point of var was to eliminate all "clear and obvious" errors. They are not doing that if they have to draw a line across the pitch to see if someone was offside, that is not clear and obvious. I think that the referee on the pitch should look at var, not someone in a box at times about 130 miles away.
We debate these things because the media want something to talk about.
Media creates controversy, controversy creates viewership, and this brings more scrutiny (from people that never actually played the game) which pressurises the game to change.
We are trying to bring certainty to decisions which will always have an element of subjectivity. Only now there is no excuse to get things 'wrong'.
Gone are the days of respect for ref's discretion. Fundamental lessons which sport used to teach us are being lost - Learning to respect one another. Learning to deal with decisions that don't go your way. Learning to control the controllables and let go of the rest. Accepting refs (like all players and mere mortals) are imperfect and will make mistakes. This is what it means to be human.
The issue at hand is the commercialisation of sport and a loss of values. We are killing what makes the game beautiful.
Some pragmatic ideas for the road we find ourselves on could be:
- Bring more transparency to the governance and performance management of referees'. Reassure the public that refs are being held accountable. Allow players to review and rate the performance of refs. How well did they communicate? Were they consistent? etc.
- Remove subjectivity where possible. If the ball touches your hand, it is a hand ball (this might create more goals, great). If you are offside, VAR will alert refs. If the ball goes out of play alert the ref.
- Remove VAR from subjective decisions which are open to interpretation. Leave to refs discretion.
- Give the captain 2 or 3 chances to have the Ref review a decision in partnership with VAR.
- Consider Mic'ing up Refs so that the public can understand the thinking process of the Ref and greater understand the perceptions and interpretations of the ref.
VAR is absolute crap and is ruining football both for the viewer sat at home and the fans in the stadium. It leads to long delays that disrupt the flow of the game, and make for a boring spectacle. It hasn’t worked, so mag to grid it👍
It isn’t the VAR, it’s the incompetent refs that are tasked to use it. It’s all human error. I hope AI refs are developed sooner rather than later
Who does he think he is? lmao
Yeah we never debated offsides before VAR. If only we had the wise Ange here in England earlier to show us the way
People seem to have rose-tinted memories of the game running smoothly with no talking points.
I think VAR should only be used in foul play or penalty checks. Disallowed goals for being an inch offside taking hours to check disrupts play. That’s why we have refs and linesman. Ultimately it should be there decision now also audio aswell we dont need it
Offside if it’s very close then the lineman should just give the advantage to the attacker and keep his flag down. Disallowing beautiful important goals after a four minute check as a toenail is offside is absolute insanity of the highest order. Linesman does offsides it’s what he’s there for, it’s a fast flowing game not an FBI forensic examination of a crime scene.
@ I’ve seen var checks nearly ten minutes long. If it’s not clear give the goal. It disrupts the flow the momentum the players thinking it’s a joke it should be used a second ref to see things the ref misses not to make the decisions for him. Never been a fan and now audio rubbish aswell lol
VAR is a software, an instrument, an actual non living thing. It is accurate and precise, but the problem is with the human handling of it.
Please get rid of VAR until they can make the correct decision instantly without delaying the game and going backward... VAR is running the joy of scoring in football...
so u want things to go back to total referee tyranny? This is an absolutely stinker take. VAR isnt always great, but it has made decision making much more fairer than it used to be
@@mistzzz4683exactly.
@@mistzzz4683Doesn't make any difference, the officials operating it today still have the last say, and how many have they blatantly fucked up on?? I've lost count. Var has completely overcomplicated today's game, where even more mistakes are now made, as opposed to not having it in place with all the confusion it has now caused. You can see the officials aren't even sure anymore if they've made the correct decisions. Human error will always happen regardless, but this system in place today is on another scale. The game is not enjoyable whatsoever. A good majority would prefer this to be scrapped and revert to the old way. Surely if you've watched enough football you would support other's comments for the abolishment of this.
It's like people forgot that VAR exists because officials kept on screwing it up. Why on earth do you want to go back to the days of Chelsea vs Barca 2009?
That anoucement was pointless we could see It was off side from the lines how ever I thought the all point off it was to be used when it's a close call and the ref looks and var screen and makes the final decision then announces why he made his decision? I mean all he did there really Is say solanke was off side yeah we knew that.
Yes Ange! Get rid of VAR. More than happy that I watch League One football
I wish they’d only rule offsides with VAR if the attacker was completely passed the line. This business of ruling off a goal because someones toe was offsides robs us of excitement in my opinion.
If the reff let the advantage play,after possible red card foul then why are they not consistent
Ange is correct. That nonsense last night did nothing g for the game. It’s just americanising it for tv. Al you need is the screen to display what’s happening and then tell you the result. The problem is the ref will hold up the game whilst they check something and then start the game and the fans don’t know what’s happening. Then maybe they’ll flash up checking penalty and instantly say no penalty when the games already started.
That’s anges problems with it. It doesn’t help itself. It’s used poorly.
The announcement was a waste of time today. But it won’t on controversial decisions. Ange is an idiot though, we always debated all these things. What is he talking about?
What has he got to complain about? His goal scorer got let off a red card.
Offside isn’t subjective yet the blatant 2nd booking went your way. Get over it Ang 😂😂
Wasn’t cynical. Get over it mate.
He should've been sent off 100%
@@Danny_TNT Cap worthy of a university degree 🎓
Lolll mans still hurt
No he shouldn't first yellow wasn't a yellow. Luiz diaz should of been sent off for diving
Advantage was played to allow a promising attack to continue and Liverpool even ended that move with a shot on target, so no yellow card. A goal scoring opportunity developed and everything. All in the rules.
You can argue that a yellow card offence is a yellow card offence as much as you like, but then you could argue that Newcastle's handball leading to a goal against Spurs last week was obviously a handball. Technically the rules allow the game to continue in both cases without any action from the ref.
Ange has lost it, it was offside & yr player shld have been sent off....jesus, another whingin, deluded North London manager
He forgot to mention faul before scoring.
You also forget to mention how the first yellow shouldn't of been a yellow. Luiz diaz was just diving and should have been sent off for it
Liverpool fans always get stupid decisions that always benefit them but always cry when it don't
We’ve always debated those things. He’s just wrong. When var was brought in people were concerned that it would end these debates.
People are protective but what are we meant to do like literally we protest our stance against it and shout at the side-lines apart from that Ange its you people within football that has the actual power to stop it.
Ange has missed 40 years of history. There was a time when favouritism was blatant. You knew George Courtney would give Man Utd or Liverpool; a consistent advantage over Leicester or Birmingham. VAR is just a way of being seen to be fair, without actually being fair!
Honestly.. Look at a compilation of Maldini, and you’re gonna tell me that either of Lucas’s challenges is a yellow card? What has football come to
mate.....the second tackle is a yellow card 30 years ago 😂
@@thewengerinn5555 Mate, look at an compliation. Not even against Zidane it would have been a yellow but ye, the second one is a clear foul
@LaidbackJack1 I'm lucky enough to have seen Maldini the first time round.
I agree with the rough point you're making....I agree the games gone soft....but to say the second tackle isn't a yellow is a bit of a reach isn't it ffs 😅 Absolute textbook yellow card since mid-90s!
Says someone who clearly didn't watch football then @@thewengerinn5555
@@thewengerinn5555 Except as Ange and Slot said; the rules state they don't give yellows for non-cynical fouls after advantage is played, making it by definition, not a yellow.
He has a point though. The announcement provided nothing new.
Actually it did clarity for fans inside stadium
@@chrissyaye Ref puts arm up to signify offside. What else was cleared up? It's obvious who was offside.
@RyansRandomRants you have no clue it's not just announcements for offsides it's also for fouls etc. So yeah it's needed
@@chrissyaye I am fully aware of its purpose. But in this situation, it provided zero extra information.
All prem managers should stick together on this subject and the corruption of VAR
Only answer apart from scrapping it is one appeal per half. Manager holds up an orange flag or something
All that is needed is a rugby style TMO where you can hear the discussion between the referee and the VAR officials, would add context to what they're looking at rather than the radio silence, its okay on TV as you have the commentary but when you're there in the stadium there is no way to know what is going on...
They’re going to get slapped so hard at Anfield 😂😂😂
VAR is one of the reasons I gave up my season ticket. But the thing that really hacks me off is supporters who are blind to the other team. Every team is capable of playing well and still losing. Equally you can be rubbish and still win. Too many fans have no objectivity and see the game through red and white or blue or White and navy tinted spectacles. Grow up!
I'm with Ange - what has VAR added? If you're in the stadium you can't cheer until you're sure someone's toenail hasn't played him offside. If it hits someone's hand, there's an endless debate of what is 'natural'. Get rid.
Why do people use this clearly untrue argument? Fans still cheer goals when they hit the back of the net. That has literally never changed.
If VAR awards the goal, fans cheer a second time. If VAR chalks the goal off, the opposition fans celebrate. This "fans can't celebrate" nonsense that people like you keep spewing is categorically not true and literally does not happen at all lol. Get a better argument instead of this blatant lie.
As a season ticket holder at Rugby Park I can assure you that while you might cheer, you’ve got one eye on the ref. It’s changed the dynamic. Of course, it’s probably different if you’re watching on telly eh? ;-)
I’m getting sick of this guys attitude towards the reporters he’s trying to intimidate them into not asking him questions about his leadership 😂🍀🍀🍀
I suppose he's turning a blind eye to Bergvals tackle, which should've had him get his second yellow. Hypocrite matey.
The first one was wrongful
@@moiseulpasmoiSo was jotas first one when he was sent off at spurs last year. Tottenham hotsvar
@@modskillslebonSo why aren’t Liverpool fans crediting the referee for making the right decision now hypocrite much nah ?
If it was the same referee I would understand that they would want consistency but it’s not the same the other ref shouldn’t have sent Jota off but this one made the right decision by not sending Bergvall off 🤷🏼♂️
@@modskillslebonwhat about when jota drop kicked skipp in the head a few seasons ago didn’t get a second yellow then went and scored a few seasons back
He literally says in this second presser they were told that playing advantage was going to remove a lot of yellow cards unless they were cynical tackles. Listen to the video before complaining.
If a man ever needed a bit of luck, it's him.
Unfortunately TV and Media want to speak about something, and it’s VAR, what a the new thing in 2028????
100% right. Games deffo not worse since VAR came in
He is right The people who are running the game at the top are they ever played professionally when they say the people want it it’s it’s just nice TV companies who like the drama shame I thought they brought this in to capture all Fowls, even when the referee and not seen the cheating the diving all of it
'I spoke to Harold after the game and I told him take that Kangaroo off the pitch'
VAR means more officals to take more money out of the game. Its a nice payday for them.
It’s okay to cheat and win basically 😂
Cry me river
@ only ones crying is spurs fans because they haven’t won a trophy 🤣🤣
Old man shouts at cloud.
I love ange but 2 things I don’t like about him , he keep playing Brennen Johnson and keep talking about var
BJ is spurs top scorer.. Might be a reason he gets game time.. Good attempt at a post though fella 😅👍🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
I can't stand him. He is either sulking and looking at the floor or ranting.
Wasn't this same guy who said we shouldn't blame VAR and refs when he came in last season?.😂 Things were going out well for him but now he's been criticizing refs so much
So much? He's always been anti VAR. Last weekend he was fuming at the ref and all he said was things aren't fair and balanced. That's all he said. He is so much better than most other managers
He said back then exactly what he said now that he is not a fan of the VAR system, nothing to do with the officials. YNWA!
He said at Celtic he didn’t like var and he wasn’t in favour of it. He never directly criticised a ref whilst at Celtic.
He right though. That nonsense last night offered nothing to the game. It’s just americanising the game for tv.
All you need is the screen to say checking office then offside.The problem is the often don’t announce what’s going on. You just see the ref holding his arm up to stop plays then nothing happens and the game restarts.
Lmfao he never ever said that 😂😂😂 you must be thinking of a different manager?
You never understood what he said
Don’t see this energy when it goes his way ! Made for Spurs Ange
If it was a level playing field we'd we'd win every game
Most Manager will blame the refreee but not himself when they lose but if they win everthing is fine even refree make msitake
It lacked the charisma of the NFL referees
Var is ruining the game. Only people that will
Welcome this is likely younger people or Americans who nothing about the game.
The irony of this is that VAR, if it existed back then, would have stopped Maradona's hand of god.
He is off his medicine. We debated all the things he talks about. Solanke was offside and the albino should have been sent off
Ditch VAR, its ruined the game
Like most managers total hypocrite and suffers from myopia. "we never used to debate offsides...." on what planet was he living? You can bet your bottom dollar if the goal scorer for Liverpool should have been sent off he would have something to say about it. Cannot stand Ange.
He knows they haven’t done enough to get through
Liverpool would of won if it had been a level playing field for me
Player should've been off. If that happens to him it be worse
A very Spursy rant 🤣🤣
Because we remember the Fergie years and it was much worse before VAR. That’s why, Ange.
Somebody needs to remind teletubby that they're people in the stadium who are visionary impaired, maybe he should take that into consideration. Hate this dude never answers a question simply. 🙄
Nothing wrong with the technology. Used in other sports without issue. Difference is football introduced subjectivity into an objective system making it worse than not having it. Webb and his biased band are the actual issue
Football is subjective is refereeing not yes or no. Its always been like this, he'd be moaning about offsides against spurs if it wasnt there. Youll be out of a job soon anyway Ange so you don't have to put up with this much longer.
even when tot win they still complain lol you take the win regardless of the outcome
I always liked him as a coach, but what a cry baby, Spurs needs to find a new coach
Got even lucky his player didn’t get a second yellow
These guys are always complaining about modern technology.. It's the same modern technology that keeps players fit and play even beyond 30 years of age.. It's the same modern technology that revitalizes players even from ACLs.. If they're so tired of the modern tech then they're free to go back to wearing medieval wears, come to stadiums on horses and play with bow arrows and big daggers
Arsenal fan, i agree with posto
Hero right there
Var along with other things has literally ruined the game. Football is shite now , every game is boring
Stop watching it
Somebody give that guy a Halls or something 😂
Ffs, he always sounds like he has the Vid lol
Ahh it’s still ‘Woe is me’ is it Ange?
Any word on the player who scored the winning goal when he should have been sent off and the Liverpool player having to be off the pitch due to the tackle during the goal?
Seems 'woe is you'....learn the rules of the game before getting the tissues out!
@ You mean like the ref should have sent off a Spurs player who then scores the goal?😂
@@Big-q2v Can't card a player if advantage called.......you been livin under a rock!
@ It’s ok. Only a LC SF. I know it’s one of the biggest games of your lives.
@@Big-q2vhe should never have been sent off, that first yellow is the most ridiculous thing I've seen. Liverpool player was absolutely fine, if he'd got up rather than acting he'd still have been on the pitch. I support neither of you.
Think the bloke will be sacked before next season he's not going to win a trophy and I don't think spurs will finish in a European place this season
funny you
@sussysuske12721 true though
He's not getting sacked...@@paulstones1451
Cheers for the quality insight Paul
@@AB-os5vj we all know it will happen
Ange out 😮
Just get on with it... Hes right
2nd win ange's lot have over Liverpool thanks to pish refereeing. Tottenham hotsvar
He talks sense
But will get In trouble for his views🤦🏻♂️
COYG
Spot on, VAR AND PEP, are destroying football, as we once knew it previously. Bring back entertaining the fans, as a neutral, Ange is great for our game, I just wish there were others with the same insight into the simple game of football. 👍🙏🏻🙏🏻
Pep 😂😂😂😂 He's a great manager, isn't he?
He’s right but
Is this dude for real?
It's who he is, mate.
Ange is right liverpool
Before anyone says he's moaning, his team won the game, he's giving his valid opinion and observation
he does realise the PL clubs had a vote on var staying at the end of last season and all the clubs voted to keep it.
Owners and boards voted. Not fans.
@@Derek-qu8qi I said nothing about the fans. fans don't own PL clubs do they?
Since VAR refereeing stanfatds in this country have dropped .... and he is right , were complicating it way too much .
Football is being ruined 😢
crybaby
He’s not lying, what does the ref speaking do that effects the game?
You know he won the game right?
@@RachelTurner81 1-0 is enough for clownttenham?
i agree
i like var, it makes less mistakes. i wish people would stop moaning about it
Do you want to explore a ban of heading as well?
@@MikeJJJemptybladder no. why would i?
@@MikeJJJemptybladder you can support var and still want headers. two unrelated topics
Well said!
💯💯💯
Bring back the pre 2010 overall game
God I miss those games from 1992-2008
Real football
Come with the sack to put in goals in the second leg because you touched in the bees last night
I would coach my players to immediately stop 🛑
If it means a second yellow 🟨🟨
It is mathematical better thing to do
It's professional sports Liverpool should off stopped
Too bad so sad