Tri-ang R753 Class 81: Repair Request
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- I was asked to look at this old, non running Tri-ang R753 Class 81 locomotive to see if I could get it going again.
Since uploading I've been informed this is a Class 81 so apologies for saying it's a Class 86 in the video and also apologies for the long video!
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Hate being a smart ass bill but it’s a Class 81 . The 86 was a later Hornby model .Bachmann have an 85 that you might be able to get a replacement pantograph as a spare , but no doubt pricey
Just got myself a hornby RES 86 of ebay. It's in the post. Can't wait to run it with my mail vans.
I was told it was an 86 by the owner but right enough it is an 81.
Nice one bill these motors were noisy but part of the charm of
Triang
Hi Bill, I have an earlier version R753 with the original lion & wheel emblems as opposed to the "we don't know which way we're going arrows" plus it's got serrated wheels. On the pantograph front there are a pair on eBay for 100 pounds! They're listed as - HORNBY DUBLO AL1 BO-BO ELECTRIC LOCO PANTOGRAPH ONLY FOR E3002 CAT NO 2245 x2 As this engine originally came to Triang from the Hornby Dublo range they will fit! But it would be cheaper to buy a "new" complete engine off the bay for less than that!
All the early electrics before the 86's were nicknamed roarers because of the noise they made - so the model's noise is actually appropriate.
Still keep up the good work as I am learning from your repairs.
That Triang power bogie growl…fabulous! Great overhaul, Bill.👍🇨🇦
Another fantastic film Bill, I still love the fact that they go into the shed to be fixed , Looking forward to your next film 🙂
The magnetiser from Ronald Dodd is a great item I have one myself , good video again Bill thanks
Another great video, a lot of noise comes from the serrated wheels, expressly-trains on eBay do replacement wheels, I did this with my triang SR emu and it made a huge difference to noise and now runs on modern track
Lovely to see (and hear) this old Triang model running!
Hi Bill, I really enjoyed the restoration. I have a Hornby DMU and a Hymek and both have that noisy motor - on the plus side the motors seem pretty indestructable! Both of them have received DCC chips and that seems to have improved their performance.
That re-magnituzer is the real deal. Pity it would cost so much to get it over the pond. Great job
Ooh that brought back memories, 86 class, Class 31 and a Blue Pullman. I think they all had the same motor bogie and they all made the same noise.
Can't have been exactly the same, as class 31s have three-axle bogies. But probably the same basic design.
These must be getting really rare now. Incredibly good model even today. Really captures the spirit of the machines I used to see at Birmingham New Street on Friday afternoons when my parents thought I was hard at work revising for my O levels in Birmingham Public Library 😂. Our West Midlands Passenger Executive travel pass was valid on WM buses but also on the train to New Street.
Once again Bill, lots for us to learn. Thanks for sharing 👍
Who needs DCC sound when a loco already has its own unique sound built in.
nice repair on the class 81... good to see it running again wow👍🏻😎Neil
Dear Sir,
The information i was looking for! The remagnetiser! Thanks! I will certainly write Mr. Dodd, but don't know if he will be able to send one to Brazil within a reasonable cost (from me point of view). I may try to build me own with material i find locally.
Cheers from Brazil!
Love the sheep, a nice gift (the 🐑*and* the game)!
Nice to see this rare loco fixed and running. I do like your servicing methods. Of the several types of motor bogies Triang produced, this is the better one. It has proper armature bearings instead of the plastic bearings fitted to the other type with the 'spider' pickups. A lot of the noise comes from the ribbed wheels which were supposed to aid traction. I have seen these models with the later smooth wheels and they run much quieter. Perhaps the owner could find some and fit them, they have shallower flanges too. 😊
Indeed, I have one and swapped the wheels for smooth ones from a dock shunter. Reduced the noise considerably.
Tri-ang AL5, Hornby railways did the Class 86 with working pantograph
The change over switch on these locos can be a pain,i`ve had to repair the switch on both of them as i run my R753s on my 3 rail Dublo layout picking up from the Trix catenary.The problem with the pantograph is the pivot point on the rear of the pantograph base.By careful bending ,you can get the pantograph to lay parallel and stay down.
Nice little repair, just needs a Shields Rd salmon on the side now 👍
I could sit and watch your vids all day thanks
Just love that simple chassis, runs well and just think you can pay £100+ for that sound !!!!! well done Bill..
And the rest. The current Heljan 86/4, is £187 after retailer discount! It's shocking the price of modern rtr stock.
What a lovely model, of course it can be fixed it has the brand 'Tri-ang Hornby' on the body! Great repair but shame about the panto, they're silly price on ebay so maybe try a model fair
If you are not worried about originality Somerfeldt do replacement working pantographs at reasonable prices. No 968 would be suitable for the Class 81 that you have.
That's a good shout. I have a Class 81 awaiting refurb (sadly it was damaged in transit) and I think that needed a new one. Do you know of a Sommerfeldt replacement for a Class 86?
@@PeterJewell2 Same one, which is handy as they are sold in pairs.
My blue Pullman has the same motor I’ve found a way to quiet the motor down it’s a matter of a damper between the chassis screw and motor to reduce vibrations I used a rubber O ring plus a bit more weight .
great video Bill also thanks for info on the remagnatiser
Replacement pantograph - try Peters Spares - they tend to have a lot of spares - I myself have repaired 3 Hornby locos (86, 90, 91) and 1 Lima (87) from their shop
It’s the wheels that are noisy due to the knurling, If you swap our the wheels it will quiet right now.
Also that style of wheel has a problem on modern track due to the size of the flange.
Great work once again Bill.
Great stuff Bill,i like trains that make a lot of noise like that ! Well done on the great fix and well done on showing us the mix up with the wires.
Another great video from you, thanks and keep them coming.
Well done, great repair/restore
Thanks for the lovely video
Give me that noise over the fake sound generators any day!
Like brand new Bill lol 😆
Not a class 86 loco as you said at the start
but a class 81 class locomotive
Morning Bill, where did you get the t shirt? Fantastic resurrection of the classic model. Solder joints do break of old age. Great video again. Look forward to next one and little more of the layout. All best Marc
Hi Bill, probably been asked several times but what is the desk surface that you are using (or are you working on the back of a 🐑)?
Just a cheap white towel. They get washed regularly.
Watching in LA 👍
Hi, I like watching your vids, very informative! Do you ever scratch build or kit bash any locos? Dave from Southend on sea
Hello from Colchester!
Bill, That's An AL1 Class 81 not a class 86.
class 82/83, hornby brought out a 86 in 1980s buddy :)
It's a Class 81.
Great video, what type of track do you use, my triang and c1970s locos hate peco code 100 points, always derailing!
Are your Peco points « universal » or « fine » ? My ancient Triang locos negociate universal points with no problems but no way will they cross the fine ones…
@@robinforrest7680 it's actually my Dad's layout put together in the past year, thus all new streamline points. I'm sure there was never an issue on my c1980s layout with peco electro frog points. Assume universal points are no longer produced? Hopefully modern set track would be ok for triang stock?
@@dduck1585 bad news for me then if Peco points are no longer compatible. I’ve been away from railway modelling for over ten years but will be starting again soon. I’d better check before buying any new Peco points !
@@robinforrest7680 exactly the same here. I've been away for 30 years (And my OO layout not running since the 80s, my N from some years later ). I haven't stopped collecting locos though.
You'll quite often find the pantographs for sale on the "Usual Auction Site" but they're at a stupid and ridiculous price. Getting really fed up with the over charging greedy loco strippers and dealers on there. So much so that I've stopped buying from it and look elsewhere.
Silly Bill-y -- it doesn't work because your layout doesn't have overhead wires! 😉
Actually, never knew that those models _could_ run from overhead wires. I bet that was as reliable as a politician from a party you don't like.
This is not a class 86,