I don't understand the claim at 0:52 that in a big space it doesn't matter if the exhaust isn't ducted to the outside. If the exhaust isn't ducted away, the average temperature of the space will keep rising gradually (due to the power consumed by the device) and only the zone in front of the cool air flow will get a cooling benefit. That seems similar to an ordinary portable fan, which produces a breeze that cools who it's aimed at (a wind chill). A fan is much cheaper.
What I mean is that say you are in a two car garage working or large shop on a car and its 110 inside. You can set it up and have it blow cold air on you for spot cooling. That why I do in my crawlspace. You are absolutely putting out the exhausted air into the open space, but it still works. Think of like using a space heater, the room is still cold but you can get heat on you.
>SilverCymbal : A space heater increases the average temperature of the room, which is desired when the room is too cool. It doesn't only heat what its fan is directed at. So a space heater doesn't seem like a good analogy for a cooling device that _undesirably_ increases the average temperature of the room (if the exhaust isn't ducted to the outside).
@@brothermine2292 A fan might be a better analogy. You can blow a fan on you but a fan will not cool a room since the heat emitted from the motor will add to the room. But now you have much cooler spot cooling. Out the back, it blows hot air, but on you it is cold. A long-term/room solution it is not. Or you can use the hoses to duct the heat out, but a small unit like that will do nothing for a garage, it really is good just for spot cooling you. This is what SilverCymbal was getting at.
>LFTRnow : I agree that a fan is a good analogy. I understand SilverCymbal's point in his reply, which is that the A/C can be used for spot cooling like the fan I mentioned in my initial comment. My point is that a fan is a much less expensive solution to consider for that scenario. (My other point is that the video is misleading at 0:52.)
The portable a/c Heatpump would allow you to have the adapter hose laying on the dash of your car while you’re working inside of it and have cool crisp air conditioned air blowing in your face while the unit is out in the shop/garage not trying to cool down the shop/garage, unlike a fan blowing ambient shop air on you that’s just air. Same goes for heat mode as well, it’s not intended to change the temp of the garage/shop but make the spot where you’re at more comfortable/workable. Esp for hot confined spaces, having chilly air on you makes an unsafe condition into an all day work condition.
800-1200 dollars for 5100 btu? That insane. If you don't need the battery power a standard Chinese RV heat pump/ mini split is only 300-400 dollars and they are 11000 btu. They are all over ebay.
It's $799 without a battery, and you can use an existing power system or add a battery if you want. Those ebay ones are fine, but keep in mind those are no names, and require a permanent installation. The Ecoflow's strong is that you cna move it where you want. I don't think they are trying to displace Mr Cool or anyhing type systems
By your own number the ecoflow is a better deal if you need more than 2200btu. By your numbers you could buy two Ebay ones for the price of this one but that only gets you to 2200btu. This one is over double that, has battery capability, and isn't some mystery machine rebranded by 30 different "companies" from china that might run for 3 years or 3 days. Just food for thought.
I would only suggest these units are great for emergency purposes. It is, however, not my choice for that. I would simply use a window AC and run it off another solar battery or gas/propane generator.
I have one, get the battery. Works better for a tiny home that is insulated than a 28 foot RV that is not 4 season or insulated. I have a dedicated solar panel for it. So assume if poor insulation might not be big enough. Outside of that I like it.
There is big practicality in this as a permanent fixture in a boondocking setup of camper trailer. No need for a separate AC/heater when this can do both for a power light load. Of course, the price is the heel, but I'd argue that given it's power efficiency it's worth it in power limited situations.
Unfortunately I wouldn’t recommend the Wave 2 in a limited power situation. For heating, it is going to use a lot less power than an electric heater but the heat function only works down to about 40°. I’ve used it camping and it uses a lot of power. In Eco Mode the battery lasts 8 hours. In my experience, depending on the time of year it has used more like 2.5 to 4.5 kWh in a day.
This product looks terrific for race/track cars that have factory a/c removed. You can put the unit in the backseat, secure it down, and run the hoses outside. Only thing you would have to make it a mount which is pretty simple.
The price could be considered high when compared to a window air conditioner. But this isn't just a window air conditioner. It's a year round mobile HVAC unit, with an optional grid independence mode. By the time you include the price of install, you could buy one for every room in the house and still come out ahead. And then take a couple of them camping, if you can still call that camping.
Tiny homes can run on a mini-split heat pump system and most RVs have an air conditioner built in. You get better usage out of window units in your home for CA$200 or even traditional (thus more affordable) portable AC units have the condensate blown out with the exhaust air. For the price of one of these, you could easily buy three to five similar output window units. As of the writing of this comment, you can't buy the eco-flow. Also, there are better solutions if you need heat in your house as most houses have some kind of heater or heating system built in. Most mini-split systems can be installed fairly reasonably and quickly and will last much longer than any self contained system like Ecoflow. I would say decades compared to even this thing.
Since this is a heat pump, it has an operation range. If it gets too cold, it won't heat the space. I learned that the hard way this winter. Fortunately, I was able to save my camping trip by kickstarting the heating of my tent with some warm air from the car. I was then able to move the unit into the tent with me to maintain the right temp.
We had the EcoFlow Wave2 together with the battery for quite a while and tested it extensively in a smaller RV (McLouis Fusion 330). It does cool but not by much and the biggest problem are the weak fans that are unable to push the cold air at any noticeable distance. If you are planning on using it in a small RV where the temperature is 26 degrees Celcius or 80 degrees Farenheit then I really wouldn't bother. I will not be able to cool down the RV no matter how well insulated it is. Also it's very loud and it is NOT in any shape or form a good replacement for a standard heat pump that has far more BTU capacity. If you on other hand are planning on only using it for in lower temperatures then I believe that it could work. This product is very often oversold by UA-camrs and I just want to give a small warning of what to expect.
I fixed a similar "portable" Ac unit tube that had that issue with two towels. Didn't even use insulation. There was also leaking around the base of the tube where it hooked to the AC. I fixed that with tape.
The connectors and hoses leak a lot. I have the Wave 2 set up in my office when I’m not camping. There is a phenomenal amount of pollen on and around the unit from the exhaust this spring.
What is the SEER rating. It's a heat pump butt diving 5100BTU by 495W DC gives a SEER of 10.3. It is good if you need portable but if you can use a window air conditioner, every window air conditioner you can buy today will use less power. The only advantage is IF this is inverter based and not single/dual stage. If you don't need portability, get a split heat pump.
Where’d you get 5,000 watts for power consumption? In the video it showed a range of 200-800 watts. That’s a potential of 25seer. And this isn’t trying to be a mini-split Heatpump but definitely beats a noisy window shaker by a long shot in diversity and capability, but also portability.
@@dallynsr My bad that was a typo. I meant 495W which is what ecoflows site says the DC power is. Which gives you the 10.3 because SEER is BTU divided by wattage. That's interesting because for normal ACs the minimum SEER is 14 in the northern US and 15 in the southern US and that number. This AC uses 45% more power than the current legal minimum. I wonder how it's classified to get around the SEER regulations which still apply to the wheeled "portable" ACs. This thing getting 25 SEER is about as likely as my 4955W typo. SEER is seasonal so while there may be times where it's in a perfect sweet spot of internal and outdoor temperature. If this thing got 25 SEER they wouldn't fail to mention SEER anywhere in the product documentation. Also considering this is 1100$, or 800$ on sale, you need to compare it to window units or splits of comparable pricing. Midea sells inverter air conditioners that are as low as 32dB to the Ecoflows 44dB, so its not beating ACs half its price. I don't know what you mean by diversity. I stand by my point, that this is a neat device if you need absolute portability (at the cost of efficiency) to cool a small area, but for any permanent or semi-permanent use case this thing is the wrong choice for cost and performance.
Just a heads up to anyone interested in ordering: I placed an order 5 days ago and it hasn't moved from San Diego. Assume this is a FedEx delay. Maybe don't order if you need it quickly!
Not an awful price for its packaging and features. However if it is going to be primarily stationary, might be better to get a traditional heat pump. You can get a full ton of cooling (12000 btu) for about that price if you can DIY. This is pretty neat though. I'd love to get a heat pump installed for my garage someday. 1 ton would be plenty just to keep it ~10F below OAT in the summer and above freezing in the winter. My electric heater could then just bump on when the HP can't keep up.
When you pump warm air out of your house, you'll either create a vacuum, or suck warm air from outside in. These systems are the least efficient form of cooling available. You'd need to install the unit outside and force cool air in to be reasonably efficient.
Agreed, whats weird is you would have expected Mr Cool or someone else to build one but no one has been able to, or maybe they don't realize how many people RV/camp, etc. This Wave is a very well done setup
Great. They just need to sell this for comparable pricing to portable AC’s one might buy from Home Depot, Lowe’s etc. So that means under $400. At $1200, this product is so out of reach that it may as well not exist. I truly don’t understand who can afford ecoflow products these days.
Its $799 for a limited time left - bit.ly/3W63uVp - Scroll down on the bottom. The base unit is what I showed here. The others all come with extras that aren't required.
Hello Will this work for someone in an SUV, sleeping in the back trunk area on an air mattress in Florida? It’s here up to 84 degrees at night when I’m sleeping and I don’t want to run my Vehicles AC all night. But I would like to know if this portable cooler would keep me Cool all night while sleep?
There is a lot of hype around these portable heat pumps but I'd save your money until they evolve into separating the condenser so it's back outside like it's supposed to be, with an easy way to connect/disconnect it. I know this EcoFlow works but it's quite bulky in the smaller spaces it's designed for and it does fight itself, even if it's less than other brands.
Alright buddy, let me break it down for you. When it comes to outdoor portable AC units, you've got two options: 2300BTU and 5000BTU. But here's the deal - even the 5000BTU might not give you the chilling power you need outdoors during the day. At night, though, 2300BTU is often enough to cool your space. And check this out, the Mark 2 seems to be more lightweight and user-friendly. Its one-handed design is a real win for my RTT setup.
I use a portable ac. It sits in a box I made outside and the cold is directed into my tiny house ducting. Best to keep the unit closed up outside and just the air flowing in. It was only 300$ and its 12000 btu so I doubt that little thing could help. Certainly not for 800 bucks lol, the gimick junk has to stop.
hmm, I confused. Using google's energy conversion calculator, 6100 BTUs should be ~1787 watt hours. Honest question. How can wave 2 get 6100 BTUs using less than half the power?
Heat Pumps can have efficiencies that exceed traditional heating /cooling solutions. If you did a quick search, you'd find that 6100 BTU AC units can run at 1000W. Most AC units are basically one-way heat pumps. On the flip side, when it comes to heating, heat pumps can actually extract heat from cold air outside provided that the coolant can still liquefy and boil at that temperature. This can be several times more efficient than directly converting energy into heat. I saw a source cite 300 - 400%. Basically, a 1000W space heater which directly converts electricity to heat with nearly 100% efficiency will generate about 3k BTUs. Which is where your number comes from. Heat pumps can give better performance than that because it extracts heat instead of directly converting something to heat. Less energy needed to pull out something that's already there instead of making it yourself from scratch. Based on the efficiency cited, you could even say that this EcoFlow unit is low to mid-range in terms of efficiency for a heat pump. With such high efficiencies, why don't more people have heat pumps? Basically, if the outside air is colder than like 30 degrees F, the heat pump's efficiency drops like a rock. The coolant doesn't behave the same at that temperature so more energy is needed to coerce the coolant to maintain its liquefication and boiling cycles. And, somewhat related, the condenser coils ice over and need to be defrosted. In other words, when you REALLY need it to heat, it's either barely working or unable to operate. Whereas a traditional heater will happily run even in the dead of winter in Siberia as long as you give it fuel. When it comes to cooling then, as you may be aware, when it's really hot outside, the AC can only bring the temperature down so much.
Heat pump COPs can be 3-5x. The Co-efficient of Performance greater than one means you’re Moving more heat than you would produce directly with that power.
Put simply, Refrigeration draws heat from one heat exchanger and releases it at the other one. Heatpumps use refrigeration to make the discharge air outside colder than outside air warming it up and then making the coil exchanger inside warmer than the air inside, thereby pumping heat from outside, inside. This is an exchange process not a watts vs wattage calculation like with resistive heater coils that produce nearly the same heat output as the electrical watts used. Typical heat pumps nowadays can be 500% efficient in that way.
Most annoying thing is if you are not using the AC adaptor you have to use an ecoflow battery or power station. If you wire it to an existing 12v power bank the compressor won't work. Ecoflow has made it so you need to use their proprietary gear, very frustrating, especially when I already have a large lithium system I have to buy the tiny ecoflow battery which does not run for the stated time
I wonder if this would work well in a small mountain cabin for heat? I have baseboard heating and a propane fireplace but on really cold winter days, it takes quite awhile to warm the place up. I could install a permanent heat pump but that’s going to cost from $3k to $5k doing it myself and I’m not crazy about where I would have to put it and run lines thru solid hand hewn wooden planks of my cabin structure. If this device could be plugged into a wifi connected power strip, I could easily turn it on a few hours before I arrive and my 1000sf cabin could be several degrees warmer than my base temperature I keep it at in the Winter. Plausible? (Especially if I really don’t have to pipe the exhaust out…if it’s just air and not fumes, I’m fine with not exhausting it out; especially if the exhaust is more warm air.)
@@theripper121 a typical portable AC unit is 10k btu, I’ve used one on a 20x20 room. Wasn’t an ice box but it helped. This is half that so yeah it would dent it. But I’m also not paying 1200 bucks for a dent. I saw the price after I commented.
@@BenNawrath Yea most garage spaces are simply not insulated well. A 5k btu unit would constantly run and probably not be nearly enough on a humid day.
@@theripper121 mine happens to be well insulated in the walls but not at all in the roof or second floor (walk up attic). So it would be a losing battle. But I’m also not out there for extended periods. So it would just be something to take the edge off anyway.
When I started on UA-cam in 2007 I was exposing the evaporative "coolers" that were everywhere. Nice to know that today you can buy an actual portable air conditioner even if it is massively overpriced.
I think you will love it. In a world of crappy ACs its to hard to believe these work this well but this one is totally different. Glad you got the deal!
Can you use this for a sound booth? Diameter of the exhaust hose looks bigger than the four inch exhaust opening my sound booth. Can you use an adapter to reduce the exhaust hose's diameter to fit a smaller opening? But then all that hot exhaust air would fill up the room outside the sound booth. Any solutions for hot sound booths?
RV ACs are way better bang for your buck, even with prices being insanely high. With that being said this is good if you don't want the hassle of installing a rooftop AC or indoor furnace.
I'm not a fan of the battery design. It's integrated into the AC unit, so you have to charge it along with the AC. Plus, the unit is far too heavy to be labeled "portable".
The exhaust hose is 5 inches the other one is 6 inches but it’s used to bring in air from outside, you can buy an adapter that fits a 5 inch hose to a 6 inch I use one to extend the length of the 5 inch hose.
Kind of bummed about the Wave2. It only works with its own battery and doesn’t play nice with my van’s battery system. That's a big miss for those of us who want everything hooked up together. Not the best for a seamless setup.
10m3 capacity means it is not powerful enough for a small room at home. Can someone advice a similar device for a single bedroom? The only portable ones I find only have an output, no air input.
I agree, last year they were $1099 and up amd its the most power portable small AC on the market, so its good they can do $699 for the next week. If you compare it to Zero Breeze, they were $999 and they don't cool even half as well. Hopefully prices for these minis will continue going down.
So question... I have an RTT, if its 100°F outside or 90° at night, could 5100 btu cool the tent to 70° F for comfortable sleeping conditions?? Or would I have issues keeping the tent 20 degrees below ambient temp??
Do not buy a Zero Breeze. ZB sold an idea, not a product. People thought it worked and it didn't or barely. Their reviews got so bad they had to pull it off Amazon and put it back on and instantly it's back to 2 stars. Worst product I ever tried. They created the first AC and it was horrible, but it blew some cold air. The Wave is as close as I have ever seen to a true portable AC in a tiny package but it actually works. Night and day.
Its 14" x 10" but it can be trimed. A bunch of campanies now make specific window adapters out of hard plastic that go right into windows of common RV/Vans
The EcoFlow Wave 2 portable air conditioner has a cooling capacity of 5100 BTUs. This allows it to effectively cool spaces up to approximately 86 square feet (about 8 square meters) from 86°F to 68°F in just 5 minutes23. In terms of cubic feet, this translates to cooling a space of around 860 cubic feet (assuming an average ceiling height of 10 feet)
@@ENMOOZ With those hoses, it will probably only do 2000-3000. That said, my $150.00 Canadian Tire brand 5000 BTU AC gets my half storey under roof bedroom of 10x12 feet pretty chilly at night and keeps it fairly comfortable in the day time.
Seriously, I used to use those Movincools to cool racks when our room systems would fail. Just point them at the racks, and then we could go home for the night
Uhmm it didnt fit the Window letting a gap like that beats the point off an airco So i will be looking for the seald version off a Window peace that actual is airthight
That is an issue. However, you can also power it with Delta 2 or similar EcoFlow power station with a specific cord. I do this sometimes. Maybe not the best solution but it’s an option.
@@bryanjohnfields I just am cautious with any lithium batteries and I wouldn't want anything larger than what is in my laptop. That includes these large power banks as well because a Honda inverter is ultimately safer and more recyclable than any battery product.
Sorry I should have included that! It's two years if you register it with Ecoflow, if you buy with the direct link I believe they do that for you. If for some reason you don't register (which is fre) its 1 year
@@SilverCymbal It's sad my $150 Canadian Tire air conditioner had a 3 year warranty but Ecoflow wanting over $1000 for its unit can't do any better. Funny thing is, the Ecoflow is probably made in the same factory in China. Why anyone would want to make this thing a heat pump seems stupid to me, especially since installing a good heat pump would out last this thing by a factor of 2-5.
200 - 800 watts. I suspect to be of any practical use that wattage is going to be 800 pretty much all the time. A typical small window ac uses about 500 watts. A decent effort. But the tech isn't there yet.
Sorry to hear that, its a fantastic unit. I would have them replace it asap, which they will do. There is no better unit on the market that comes close to this super portable, I hope you can give it another chance.
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I got an email from ecoflow yesterday. They featured you!
They’re only 89 dollars from the link while supplies last
I don't understand the claim at 0:52 that in a big space it doesn't matter if the exhaust isn't ducted to the outside. If the exhaust isn't ducted away, the average temperature of the space will keep rising gradually (due to the power consumed by the device) and only the zone in front of the cool air flow will get a cooling benefit. That seems similar to an ordinary portable fan, which produces a breeze that cools who it's aimed at (a wind chill). A fan is much cheaper.
What I mean is that say you are in a two car garage working or large shop on a car and its 110 inside. You can set it up and have it blow cold air on you for spot cooling. That why I do in my crawlspace. You are absolutely putting out the exhausted air into the open space, but it still works. Think of like using a space heater, the room is still cold but you can get heat on you.
>SilverCymbal : A space heater increases the average temperature of the room, which is desired when the room is too cool. It doesn't only heat what its fan is directed at. So a space heater doesn't seem like a good analogy for a cooling device that _undesirably_ increases the average temperature of the room (if the exhaust isn't ducted to the outside).
@@brothermine2292 A fan might be a better analogy. You can blow a fan on you but a fan will not cool a room since the heat emitted from the motor will add to the room. But now you have much cooler spot cooling. Out the back, it blows hot air, but on you it is cold. A long-term/room solution it is not. Or you can use the hoses to duct the heat out, but a small unit like that will do nothing for a garage, it really is good just for spot cooling you. This is what SilverCymbal was getting at.
>LFTRnow : I agree that a fan is a good analogy. I understand SilverCymbal's point in his reply, which is that the A/C can be used for spot cooling like the fan I mentioned in my initial comment. My point is that a fan is a much less expensive solution to consider for that scenario. (My other point is that the video is misleading at 0:52.)
The portable a/c Heatpump would allow you to have the adapter hose laying on the dash of your car while you’re working inside of it and have cool crisp air conditioned air blowing in your face while the unit is out in the shop/garage not trying to cool down the shop/garage, unlike a fan blowing ambient shop air on you that’s just air. Same goes for heat mode as well, it’s not intended to change the temp of the garage/shop but make the spot where you’re at more comfortable/workable. Esp for hot confined spaces, having chilly air on you makes an unsafe condition into an all day work condition.
I wanted to design one of these for many years (I am an engineer at heart). Glad someone finally did.
800-1200 dollars for 5100 btu? That insane. If you don't need the battery power a standard Chinese RV heat pump/ mini split is only 300-400 dollars and they are 11000 btu. They are all over ebay.
It's $799 without a battery, and you can use an existing power system or add a battery if you want. Those ebay ones are fine, but keep in mind those are no names, and require a permanent installation. The Ecoflow's strong is that you cna move it where you want. I don't think they are trying to displace Mr Cool or anyhing type systems
By your own number the ecoflow is a better deal if you need more than 2200btu. By your numbers you could buy two Ebay ones for the price of this one but that only gets you to 2200btu. This one is over double that, has battery capability, and isn't some mystery machine rebranded by 30 different "companies" from china that might run for 3 years or 3 days. Just food for thought.
I would only suggest these units are great for emergency purposes. It is, however, not my choice for that. I would simply use a window AC and run it off another solar battery or gas/propane generator.
Thanks mate, got a link to one?
You're missing the point. Can you walk around carrying your cheap Chinese RV heat pump? :D
I have one, get the battery. Works better for a tiny home that is insulated than a 28 foot RV that is not 4 season or insulated. I have a dedicated solar panel for it. So assume if poor insulation might not be big enough. Outside of that I like it.
It looked so small by the spark plug, but then realized it's a giant spark plug.
Yeah, he got me.
Yeah, he clickbaited well. Got a thumbs down for it, too.
That's funny as hell!
That is really funny. Made my day!
This thing is getting really bad reviews online. I'd stay away until Ecoflow improves it's design.
I love the idea of being able to dry camp or boondock in my camper yet still have air conditioning.
It works very well for that, the output is amazing and you can do heat too if you need it.
There is big practicality in this as a permanent fixture in a boondocking setup of camper trailer. No need for a separate AC/heater when this can do both for a power light load. Of course, the price is the heel, but I'd argue that given it's power efficiency it's worth it in power limited situations.
Unfortunately I wouldn’t recommend the Wave 2 in a limited power situation. For heating, it is going to use a lot less power than an electric heater but the heat function only works down to about 40°. I’ve used it camping and it uses a lot of power. In Eco Mode the battery lasts 8 hours. In my experience, depending on the time of year it has used more like 2.5 to 4.5 kWh in a day.
This product looks terrific for race/track cars that have factory a/c removed. You can put the unit in the backseat, secure it down, and run the hoses outside. Only thing you would have to make it a mount which is pretty simple.
The price could be considered high when compared to a window air conditioner. But this isn't just a window air conditioner. It's a year round mobile HVAC unit, with an optional grid independence mode. By the time you include the price of install, you could buy one for every room in the house and still come out ahead. And then take a couple of them camping, if you can still call that camping.
Tiny homes can run on a mini-split heat pump system and most RVs have an air conditioner built in. You get better usage out of window units in your home for CA$200 or even traditional (thus more affordable) portable AC units have the condensate blown out with the exhaust air. For the price of one of these, you could easily buy three to five similar output window units. As of the writing of this comment, you can't buy the eco-flow. Also, there are better solutions if you need heat in your house as most houses have some kind of heater or heating system built in. Most mini-split systems can be installed fairly reasonably and quickly and will last much longer than any self contained system like Ecoflow. I would say decades compared to even this thing.
Since this is a heat pump, it has an operation range. If it gets too cold, it won't heat the space. I learned that the hard way this winter.
Fortunately, I was able to save my camping trip by kickstarting the heating of my tent with some warm air from the car. I was then able to move the unit into the tent with me to maintain the right temp.
We had the EcoFlow Wave2 together with the battery for quite a while and tested it extensively in a smaller RV (McLouis Fusion 330). It does cool but not by much and the biggest problem are the weak fans that are unable to push the cold air at any noticeable distance. If you are planning on using it in a small RV where the temperature is 26 degrees Celcius or 80 degrees Farenheit then I really wouldn't bother. I will not be able to cool down the RV no matter how well insulated it is. Also it's very loud and it is NOT in any shape or form a good replacement for a standard heat pump that has far more BTU capacity. If you on other hand are planning on only using it for in lower temperatures then I believe that it could work. This product is very often oversold by UA-camrs and I just want to give a small warning of what to expect.
Is the tube actually insulated? They usually aren't, and end up leaking tons of heat by becoming hot themselves
No its thick but not insulated. You could add something if desired, I have some folks do that and gain some added efficiency.
I fixed a similar "portable" Ac unit tube that had that issue with two towels.
Didn't even use insulation.
There was also leaking around the base of the tube where it hooked to the AC. I fixed that with tape.
The connectors and hoses leak a lot. I have the Wave 2 set up in my office when I’m not camping. There is a phenomenal amount of pollen on and around the unit from the exhaust this spring.
Wrap a blanket around the discharge hose then.
Just bought this AC/heater. Best demo I’ve heard on this product. Thank you so much! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Awesome! Thank you!
What is the SEER rating. It's a heat pump butt diving 5100BTU by 495W DC gives a SEER of 10.3. It is good if you need portable but if you can use a window air conditioner, every window air conditioner you can buy today will use less power. The only advantage is IF this is inverter based and not single/dual stage. If you don't need portability, get a split heat pump.
Where’d you get 5,000 watts for power consumption? In the video it showed a range of 200-800 watts. That’s a potential of 25seer. And this isn’t trying to be a mini-split Heatpump but definitely beats a noisy window shaker by a long shot in diversity and capability, but also portability.
@@dallynsr My bad that was a typo. I meant 495W which is what ecoflows site says the DC power is. Which gives you the 10.3 because SEER is BTU divided by wattage. That's interesting because for normal ACs the minimum SEER is 14 in the northern US and 15 in the southern US and that number. This AC uses 45% more power than the current legal minimum. I wonder how it's classified to get around the SEER regulations which still apply to the wheeled "portable" ACs.
This thing getting 25 SEER is about as likely as my 4955W typo. SEER is seasonal so while there may be times where it's in a perfect sweet spot of internal and outdoor temperature. If this thing got 25 SEER they wouldn't fail to mention SEER anywhere in the product documentation.
Also considering this is 1100$, or 800$ on sale, you need to compare it to window units or splits of comparable pricing. Midea sells inverter air conditioners that are as low as 32dB to the Ecoflows 44dB, so its not beating ACs half its price. I don't know what you mean by diversity. I stand by my point, that this is a neat device if you need absolute portability (at the cost of efficiency) to cool a small area, but for any permanent or semi-permanent use case this thing is the wrong choice for cost and performance.
Just a heads up to anyone interested in ordering: I placed an order 5 days ago and it hasn't moved from San Diego. Assume this is a FedEx delay. Maybe don't order if you need it quickly!
Did it arrive? If so, how does it work?
Not an awful price for its packaging and features. However if it is going to be primarily stationary, might be better to get a traditional heat pump. You can get a full ton of cooling (12000 btu) for about that price if you can DIY. This is pretty neat though.
I'd love to get a heat pump installed for my garage someday. 1 ton would be plenty just to keep it ~10F below OAT in the summer and above freezing in the winter. My electric heater could then just bump on when the HP can't keep up.
How does this work in the summer.
When you pump warm air out of your house, you'll either create a vacuum, or suck warm air from outside in. These systems are the least efficient form of cooling available. You'd need to install the unit outside and force cool air in to be reasonably efficient.
So when is ECOFLOW going to sell tents?
Way over due. I looked for one of these last year was baffled they didn't exist.
Agreed, whats weird is you would have expected Mr Cool or someone else to build one but no one has been able to, or maybe they don't realize how many people RV/camp, etc. This Wave is a very well done setup
Great. They just need to sell this for comparable pricing to portable AC’s one might buy from Home Depot, Lowe’s etc. So that means under $400.
At $1200, this product is so out of reach that it may as well not exist. I truly don’t understand who can afford ecoflow products these days.
Its $799 for a limited time left - bit.ly/3W63uVp - Scroll down on the bottom. The base unit is what I showed here. The others all come with extras that aren't required.
Hello Will this work for someone in an SUV, sleeping in the back trunk area on an air mattress in Florida? It’s here up to 84 degrees at night when I’m sleeping and I don’t want to run my Vehicles AC all night. But I would like to know if this portable cooler would keep me Cool all night while sleep?
Maybe a stupid question but the window template doesn’t seem to cover the whole space under the window do they varying sizes of templates for windows
There is a lot of hype around these portable heat pumps but I'd save your money until they evolve into separating the condenser so it's back outside like it's supposed to be, with an easy way to connect/disconnect it. I know this EcoFlow works but it's quite bulky in the smaller spaces it's designed for and it does fight itself, even if it's less than other brands.
Alright buddy, let me break it down for you. When it comes to outdoor portable AC units, you've got two options: 2300BTU and 5000BTU. But here's the deal - even the 5000BTU might not give you the chilling power you need outdoors during the day. At night, though, 2300BTU is often enough to cool your space. And check this out, the Mark 2 seems to be more lightweight and user-friendly. Its one-handed design is a real win for my RTT setup.
I use a portable ac. It sits in a box I made outside and the cold is directed into my tiny house ducting. Best to keep the unit closed up outside and just the air flowing in. It was only 300$ and its 12000 btu so I doubt that little thing could help. Certainly not for 800 bucks lol, the gimick junk has to stop.
It is IPX4, so light rain should be fine.
hmm, I confused. Using google's energy conversion calculator, 6100 BTUs should be ~1787 watt hours. Honest question. How can wave 2 get 6100 BTUs using less than half the power?
Heat Pumps can have efficiencies that exceed traditional heating /cooling solutions. If you did a quick search, you'd find that 6100 BTU AC units can run at 1000W. Most AC units are basically one-way heat pumps.
On the flip side, when it comes to heating, heat pumps can actually extract heat from cold air outside provided that the coolant can still liquefy and boil at that temperature. This can be several times more efficient than directly converting energy into heat. I saw a source cite 300 - 400%. Basically, a 1000W space heater which directly converts electricity to heat with nearly 100% efficiency will generate about 3k BTUs. Which is where your number comes from. Heat pumps can give better performance than that because it extracts heat instead of directly converting something to heat. Less energy needed to pull out something that's already there instead of making it yourself from scratch. Based on the efficiency cited, you could even say that this EcoFlow unit is low to mid-range in terms of efficiency for a heat pump.
With such high efficiencies, why don't more people have heat pumps? Basically, if the outside air is colder than like 30 degrees F, the heat pump's efficiency drops like a rock. The coolant doesn't behave the same at that temperature so more energy is needed to coerce the coolant to maintain its liquefication and boiling cycles. And, somewhat related, the condenser coils ice over and need to be defrosted. In other words, when you REALLY need it to heat, it's either barely working or unable to operate. Whereas a traditional heater will happily run even in the dead of winter in Siberia as long as you give it fuel.
When it comes to cooling then, as you may be aware, when it's really hot outside, the AC can only bring the temperature down so much.
Heat pump COPs can be 3-5x. The Co-efficient of Performance greater than one means you’re Moving more heat than you would produce directly with that power.
Put simply,
Refrigeration draws heat from one heat exchanger and releases it at the other one. Heatpumps use refrigeration to make the discharge air outside colder than outside air warming it up and then making the coil exchanger inside warmer than the air inside, thereby pumping heat from outside, inside. This is an exchange process not a watts vs wattage calculation like with resistive heater coils that produce nearly the same heat output as the electrical watts used. Typical heat pumps nowadays can be 500% efficient in that way.
Most annoying thing is if you are not using the AC adaptor you have to use an ecoflow battery or power station. If you wire it to an existing 12v power bank the compressor won't work. Ecoflow has made it so you need to use their proprietary gear, very frustrating, especially when I already have a large lithium system I have to buy the tiny ecoflow battery which does not run for the stated time
I wonder if this would work well in a small mountain cabin for heat? I have baseboard heating and a propane fireplace but on really cold winter days, it takes quite awhile to warm the place up. I could install a permanent heat pump but that’s going to cost from $3k to $5k doing it myself and I’m not crazy about where I would have to put it and run lines thru solid hand hewn wooden planks of my cabin structure.
If this device could be plugged into a wifi connected power strip, I could easily turn it on a few hours before I arrive and my 1000sf cabin could be several degrees warmer than my base temperature I keep it at in the Winter. Plausible? (Especially if I really don’t have to pipe the exhaust out…if it’s just air and not fumes, I’m fine with not exhausting it out; especially if the exhaust is more warm air.)
Sounds like a garage shop solution.
It's certainly a luxury but its great to have this to bring to where you and keep you warm or cool even just for spot cooling that you can carry.
5000k btu wouldnt even put a dent in a garage space
@@theripper121 a typical portable AC unit is 10k btu, I’ve used one on a 20x20 room. Wasn’t an ice box but it helped. This is half that so yeah it would dent it. But I’m also not paying 1200 bucks for a dent. I saw the price after I commented.
@@BenNawrath Yea most garage spaces are simply not insulated well. A 5k btu unit would constantly run and probably not be nearly enough on a humid day.
@@theripper121 mine happens to be well insulated in the walls but not at all in the roof or second floor (walk up attic). So it would be a losing battle. But I’m also not out there for extended periods. So it would just be something to take the edge off anyway.
Would be PERFECT for my shed tiki bar. But dang, that thing is pricey.
When I started on UA-cam in 2007 I was exposing the evaporative "coolers" that were everywhere. Nice to know that today you can buy an actual portable air conditioner even if it is massively overpriced.
Hello fellow original I started in 2005 one of the first on here, many accounts later due to tos im still here, but i remember the beginning
@@conqueringlion420 Had no idea youtube even existed until 2006, you are original for sure!
Just got one… great deal right now
I think you will love it. In a world of crappy ACs its to hard to believe these work this well but this one is totally different. Glad you got the deal!
Can you use this for a sound booth? Diameter of the exhaust hose looks bigger than the four inch exhaust opening my sound booth. Can you use an adapter to reduce the exhaust hose's diameter to fit a smaller opening? But then all that hot exhaust air would fill up the room outside the sound booth. Any solutions for hot sound booths?
RV ACs are way better bang for your buck, even with prices being insanely high. With that being said this is good if you don't want the hassle of installing a rooftop AC or indoor furnace.
Cool WAGO wall art
The only thing Wago's good for. I would only use it for low voltage/low current applications.
Have you come across a unit similar to this that is purely 120V with just enough btu to heat/cool a 50sqft space? This unit in this review is pricey!
Camping with AC is not camping to me. Haha
Is this good for a one bedroom apartment??
Great idea, especially for people that can afford it
"If you make a left nostril inhaler that glows in the dark, some *expletive* will buy it from you." - George Carlin
I'm not a fan of the battery design. It's integrated into the AC unit, so you have to charge it along with the AC. Plus, the unit is far too heavy to be labeled "portable".
Can those hose screw into a window adapter from the like of LG and such?
The exhaust hose is 5 inches the other one is 6 inches but it’s used to bring in air from outside, you can buy an adapter that fits a 5 inch hose to a 6 inch I use one to extend the length of the 5 inch hose.
Kind of bummed about the Wave2. It only works with its own battery and doesn’t play nice with my van’s battery system. That's a big miss for those of us who want everything hooked up together. Not the best for a seamless setup.
How to clean that ? how much ? hong kong in stock?
10m3 capacity means it is not powerful enough for a small room at home. Can someone advice a similar device for a single bedroom? The only portable ones I find only have an output, no air input.
Do you think you could run this off a River Pro?
That Snapon tool box thoooo💪💪💪💪💪💪
just 799.00😂 Hope you sell out. Can't hate the hustle. 💯💯💯
Where did you get that large WAGO display?
Left overs from when he wago’ed his service entrance to his main panel
@@Reveriii Probably found out that Wago is a huge liability and went back to Marettes.
I wish this was cheaper like the price of a windows ac $800-$2,000 its just too pricey
I agree, last year they were $1099 and up amd its the most power portable small AC on the market, so its good they can do $699 for the next week. If you compare it to Zero Breeze, they were $999 and they don't cool even half as well. Hopefully prices for these minis will continue going down.
Where'd you get the spark plug lamp from? Insanely cool and would be a great addition to my work bench
3-D printed.
Air conditioner is very important.
I am continually impressed by your videos. They are very informative and provide a lot of value. Thank you for what you do.
So question... I have an RTT, if its 100°F outside or 90° at night, could 5100 btu cool the tent to 70° F for comfortable sleeping conditions?? Or would I have issues keeping the tent 20 degrees below ambient temp??
How do you use it with side to side windows?
Awesome Info. Thank you sir.
I wonder how this compares to the zero breeze mkII?
Do not buy a Zero Breeze. ZB sold an idea, not a product. People thought it worked and it didn't or barely. Their reviews got so bad they had to pull it off Amazon and put it back on and instantly it's back to 2 stars. Worst product I ever tried. They created the first AC and it was horrible, but it blew some cold air. The Wave is as close as I have ever seen to a true portable AC in a tiny package but it actually works. Night and day.
Curious how long the exhaust pipe is.
What's the measurements on the window adapter
Its 14" x 10" but it can be trimed. A bunch of campanies now make specific window adapters out of hard plastic that go right into windows of common RV/Vans
I freaking luv this channel. ❤
Very nice of you to say, thank you
How many cubic ft is this thing able to cool
The EcoFlow Wave 2 portable air conditioner has a cooling capacity of 5100 BTUs. This allows it to effectively cool spaces up to approximately 86 square feet (about 8 square meters) from 86°F to 68°F in just 5 minutes23.
In terms of cubic feet, this translates to cooling a space of around 860 cubic feet (assuming an average ceiling height of 10 feet)
@@ENMOOZ With those hoses, it will probably only do 2000-3000. That said, my $150.00 Canadian Tire brand 5000 BTU AC gets my half storey under roof bedroom of 10x12 feet pretty chilly at night and keeps it fairly comfortable in the day time.
Lol the picture he used fortiny homes haha
You too can spend $1300 to cool or heat a teeny space.
gonna use this to cool my pc
Seriously, I used to use those Movincools to cool racks when our room systems would fail. Just point them at the racks, and then we could go home for the night
Bout to be fall, I'll wait.
how many watts to run on full power/highest setting?
averages about 535 on max running on a/c, and 460 max average when running on DC
Cool product
Uhmm it didnt fit the Window letting a gap like that beats the point off an airco
So i will be looking for the seald version off a Window peace that actual is airthight
Ecoflow is a good product producer and I have several but it is not for the poors.
More efficiency out of a $200 window mount for 1/5 the price.
Just hope it doesn't go below 40 degrees or it won't work. Not sure how they sell this as a heater. Kinda useless for heating below 40 degrees.
Tillman Cliffs
Small but price is hugh, nope nope nope
Battery is NOT LiFePO4! Only 800 cylcles to 80%
That is an issue. However, you can also power it with Delta 2 or similar EcoFlow power station with a specific cord. I do this sometimes. Maybe not the best solution but it’s an option.
@@bryanjohnfields I just am cautious with any lithium batteries and I wouldn't want anything larger than what is in my laptop. That includes these large power banks as well because a Honda inverter is ultimately safer and more recyclable than any battery product.
The price though! 👋😅👉💵💵💵
Warranty on this??
Sorry I should have included that! It's two years if you register it with Ecoflow, if you buy with the direct link I believe they do that for you. If for some reason you don't register (which is fre) its 1 year
@@SilverCymbal It's sad my $150 Canadian Tire air conditioner had a 3 year warranty but Ecoflow wanting over $1000 for its unit can't do any better. Funny thing is, the Ecoflow is probably made in the same factory in China. Why anyone would want to make this thing a heat pump seems stupid to me, especially since installing a good heat pump would out last this thing by a factor of 2-5.
this guy got paid lol
Zena Wall
200 - 800 watts. I suspect to be of any practical use that wattage is going to be 800 pretty much all the time. A typical small window ac uses about 500 watts. A decent effort. But the tech isn't there yet.
pretty limited use product with a high price tag
McClure Expressway
Glad it's dual hose! Single hose should be illegal
Better than a mini-split. Nahhhh. lol
Cole Summit
It would be perfect if you didn't have to use the vent hoses.
I agree, I'm not sure that will ever be possible with the tech we have today but maybe in the future.
Mine arrived nonfunctional, sad.
Sorry to hear that, its a fantastic unit. I would have them replace it asap, which they will do. There is no better unit on the market that comes close to this super portable, I hope you can give it another chance.
Santa Spring
Too expensive for a small unit like this. Can buy 3 or 4 units of AC with this price.
Hank Drives
if they would make one with only ac to bring down the price i would buy.
Dejah Freeway
Schaefer Vista
Do you have any idea how good your videos are?
I not vented outside, Where does the heat go? I was borne at night, But not last night. This is BS!
Westley Wells
Chanel Tunnel
Conroy Ports
Hell no way over priced😂
over $1k. that's steep
Its $799 bit.ly/3W63uVp Scroll to the bottom of the page. There are lots of package but $799 gets you what I showed in the video