Was Terminator Genisys Really That Bad?
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Though I will appeal it, This video was demonetized because of the line: "Bastardization of a Terminator movie" at 2 minutes 33 seconds. Honestly UA-cam, is truly a joke at this point. They can't even understand context.
Wait what? You can not be serious about that...
Did they let you know it was because of that line?
Who the hell runs UA-cam, CBS/Paramount?
The Dave Cullen Show How can this movie with a smaller budget and a few years earlier than Rogue One get the CGI spot on for Arnie yet Rogue One makes Leia look fucking weird?
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Hollywood is determined to ruin every series.
Hollywood is trying to ruin male heroes and female characters.
they dont care they have 70years + life of the author in canada even more in usa you will buy eventually or go nuts with no entertainment ...thats the real goal
Dydreth They'll Greedo Shot First All The Great Ones.
Tron remains out of reach
Doin an excellent job at it
You thought John Connor was disrespected in this movie, Dark Fate opening scene is right here
It's worse here in all honesty
@@SoulShiloh what they did with John connor made sense for the story they were telling, Dark Fate killed him cause he's a white 12 year old boy
He died in both!!
@@reginaldeberhart8521 its not that he is killed, its how he is killed. In genisys he is a villain, which is a good idea, just the execution is bad. John Connor becoming a terminator is a original idea. He dies in Dark Fate because they want an all women cast.
@@GasolineProductions my point is that killed the franchise. Should've stayed with the original story line. Salvation wasn't a bad movie, I was more interested in the future. Not going back to that time traveling formula!!
I had issues with Jai Courtney's portrayal of Kyle Reese. Michael Biehn's Kyle Reese was extremely grim. He rarely laughs or smiles throughout the film. We see that he's plagued by nightmarish flashbacks and hypervigilance. It's easy enough to see that growing up in a post apocalyptic wasteland and being endlessly pursued by giant killer robots can cause a case of ptsd like Kyle's. Biehn's performance at times can get a little over the top, perhaps even Shatnerian at times, but Biehn effectively conveys the character of a tortured soul who knows the fate of the world rests on his shoulders. Jai on the other hand is constantly flippant and spouting out quips. He seems to think he's Spider Man or Jack Sparrow rather than Kyle Reese. Even if the film is aimed at a younger audience, this detracts from the film.
Jai looks like he had good access to protein supplements in post apocalyptic wasteland.
Anton Yelchin captured the original Kyle perfectly. Jai was completely miscast.
@@mercenaryknight5419 good actpr though. Bad writing.
Bien ain't over the top, dickface
Beihns performance was bang on. Not over the top. It was an amazing performance.
I only gave it a chance because Arnold was in it. If he hadn't been, I wouldn't even have given this a look. Nothing new in this flick.
Ironically,Arnold was the worst thing about Genesis))) He guy was acting as if he was in a comedy movie. Plus, he did not even look like a terminator. who ever did his make up should be fired.
He was Back....sort of
It's just more of the same.
There are only 2 terminators as far as I'm concerned
4 was decent, 3 was watchable, but yes, ultimately there are only 2. Same with Alien and Predator-franchise.
"Salvation" is not a prequel and does not take place before the first film. It is a direct sequel to "Rise of the Machines" (despite the fact that John and Kate are recast) and takes place in the same timeline established in the first three films.
Incorrect. In the beginning of "Salvation", it is made clear that Judgment Day does not occur until the early 2000's. Very much like the end of "Rise of the Machines". In the original timeline, Judgment Day occurred in 1997.
I disagree. John hooking up with Kate (a character that wasn't created until the writing of the third film) and Judgment Day happening in the early 2000s are key elements in "Rise of the Machines", which are both referenced in "Salvation".
I really liked The Sarah Conner Chronicles as a series and felt really let down that the movies just pissed all over it.
genisys: I am the worst terminator film, woke fate: hold my beer
You must be high if think geniysis is better, and I guess its woke because it has 3 female characters.
SoulShiloh genisys didn’t kill off John connor and it didn’t destiny terminator 2. Being woke has nothing to do with it In that sense. Even tho wokeness did help make dark fate even worse than it already was
@@SoulShiloh genesys >>>>>dark fate
@@SadboySpidey your acting like geniysis didnt disrespect john Conner too
@@victorvondoom4882 your entitled with your opinion
The actor portraying John Connor was totally unconvincing as John Connor in this movie. I couldn't take him seriously in that role. It ruined the movie for me.
Not as bad as their spelling of "Genesis".
That's the Xtreme way of spelling things to get Millennials' attention though...
The "sys" was for system, Genisys was an operative system, did you actually watch the movie?
Pedro - an "operative" system? Perhaps you meant "operating"? Regardless of the mythical brand name, putting a badly spelled word in a movie title was annoying.
@@pecm Genisystem kinda sounds cool
I know right. Always pisses me off when trying to type it on my phone in the comment section. My phone's auto correct goes into panic mode.
Honestly, I think John Connor being miscast in this movie did way more damage than anything else. Future Connor is supposed to be this epic military hero, and Jason Clarke... was not that. It started the movie on a bad note, a note which did not get any better. Even when he was the good John Connor, Jason Clarke still came off as a B- Bond Villain.
JCDenton 2012 christian bale should have continued he was better
Actually the movie starts great with the iconic music over a green field.
what got me was they revealed John Connor as a terminator in the trailer, so when they meet him in the car park scene there was no surprises there at all
the trailer reveal was the biggest problem
trailer reviles have always been a problem with that franchise. The john Conner revile in genesis, the Marcus wright revile in salvation, hell even Arnnie's intro in t2 was spoiled by trailers.
If go back and look at the scene where young John Conner is running from the nice policeman after getting caught shoplifting, runs into Arnold pulling a shot gun and runs back to the police officer only to have Arnnie save his life. That whole thing was obviously intended as a surprise bait and switch.
Bad? No. Generic and forgettable, that also commits the sin of ruining John Connor.
Or Nick Stahl (I found T3 underrated)
It really wasn't 'good' though, come on.
As formulaic blockbuster movies go, it was all right.
BUT
Generic, forgettable, and ruins John Connor sounds pretty awful relative to what is expected of a Terminator movie.
and ruining Kyle Reese.
That was the first episode of a trilogy, that John Connor might as well be a fucking clone and you people ruined the surprise by complaining without waiting for the story to end.
Even if the story ended up being shitty, at least let it finish before complaining.
The fight between 2 Arnolds was pretty good. And it should stay as this - short movie, one scene. After this fight, the movie was getting worse and worse and the final chase was so annoying I almost fell asleep.
The real big problem with Jai Courtney isn't his performance, it's the fact he's a giant Arnold like big bodybuilder guy. Kyle Reese was a scrapper, with an average body type; not super tall, not super buff, etc. I could NEVER get over the massive difference in that casting.
Yes Genisys was a trainwreck but I would choose it any day over Dark Fate?
Yes it was. It retroactively striped away everything that made Sara Conner an interesting character.
Yes, in the original film she develops the character during the movie, growing from a girl-next-door waitress, scared of everything to someone capable of protecting both her child on her own, and the future of mankind. Here we have a fat-ass feminist character ordering around everyone from moment zero. Yawn.
"stripped", not 'striped'. Lol
"Sarah", not 'Sara'.
"Was Terminator Genisys Really That Bad?" Yes, yes it was.
So was T3
@@Lama-Su at least T3 didn't ruin the previous movies.
I loved geneysis, more than t3.
@@bimapringgo Yup
@@amehak1922 Good for you I guess
[In 3 years]
Was Terminator Dark Fate really that bad? - Yes
Yes it is that bad.
But dark fate massacred our boy even worse
Yes Dave. Yes it was.
YouthInEyesAsian oh fuck yeah, it was a terrible movie.
your moms are a terrible movie :v
it was bad, but not that bad in my opinion. Casting was unforgivably bad though.
Fuck, I don''t really need to watch this video, I agree with you.
its better than 1,3 and 4... so hardly a bad movie
I didn't find anything all that wrong with Genysis. What I absolutely hated was the fact that the trailer completely destroyed the twist. It's actually the reason that if I know a particular movie is coming out I will avoid all promotional material for that movie.
absolutely. the trailer revealed everything. luckily the advertiser didn't do the sixth sense
Seriously. One of the most successful ad campaigns ever was the Aliens campaign and they never even showed any footage from the film. When it comes to suspense, less is more. I don't know how the so called "professionals" don't get this.
The movie was shit. Be honest with yourself instead of playing devil's advocate
Doc Holliday
There are many things I dislike about it, but come on, the ‘bad boys’ music during the mugshots, breaking through the fourth wall?!!?
Your not fooling anyone. This movie was the biggest train wreck in any franchise ever
Of course they made John Connor the villain...he's a white male!
I don't know why people need to bring race up all of the time? I am not sure Dave wants racists like you hanging around.
Eh, it can happen. Maybe not even consciously.
Just want to show lockstep in the idea women can be action heroes at any build, so they have to make others the villains, to be 'sensitive' to others...
Cry snowflake cry. Arnold was the villain in the first movie? Has wasn't a white dude then? The T-1000 in T-2 wasn't a white dude as well? You snowflakes on both the left and right aren't any different. Always claiming victimhood.
But the T1000 knockoff is Asian.
Audience: How bad can you make movies, Hollywood?
Hollywood: Yes.
Dark Fate made this movie look decent by comparison and makes T3 and Salvation look like cinematic gold
Short answer: yes.
Longer answer: yes it is.
Eliot McCann at least it’s not as bad as terminator salvation
ItsJxcob salvation wasn’t all that bad in my opinion
My terminator canon stops at Terminator Salvation
FDHNullachtneun
I consider Salvation a spin off everything after that is just fan fiction that James Cameron crapped out for a paycheck
Well they made JC the enemy but just imagine if they killed him off at the start of a terminator movie. Wow. Now that would really piss me off.
Terminator: Woke Fate does just that!
Kirby5413 I think he knew that already it was sarcasm
Yes I was being silly
Thank god that im not gona watch that shit in cinema
Why? It's not like he's pure narrative gold, just a human mcguffin that needs protecting
Yes, the movie is crap. Because they are to scared to tell a story that doesnt include anything from the first two movies. Even the comics did more where they had a terminator family and a terminator dog in our world to kill someone.
"Because they are to scared to tell a story that doesnt include anything from the first two movies"
Well then... should they have made a romantic comedy, called it "jacob" and just said it was part of the "Terminator" franchise?
True and this is applies to the new Disney star wars franchise. Nothing but a huge rehash and executed poorly.
There were only 3 canonical entries in the Terminator franchise: The Terminator, Terminator 2: Judgement Day & Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles.
Psycho Drummer I think T3 really gave a good plot to finally take the franchise into the future but salvation wanted to do its own thing like Genesys
Salvation is pretty good if you forget Sam Worthington was in it
The young schwarzenegger is played by a body builder who looks just like Arnold his name is Brett Azar
Hey, to this film's credit, if the trilogy _had_ occurred, John _could_ have been salvaged, along with his character. With Dark Fate out now? Oh, no...
That's what I've been saying this whole time. I loved genisys because it tried something different on a tired old trope. Also everyone saying sarah was a feminazi in that one are overlooking that Kyle reese was action heavy in it too.
@@GODCONVOYPRIME i agree. As much as Genisys was a very mediocre movie, i was still intrigued to see what direction it could take. There was room to expand upon that and make something great.
Instead we got three Terminator films in a row trying to be the "Real" Terminator 3... all of which make Terminator 3 seem really good by comparison.
I used to be a big fan of Linda Hamilton. Back then Sarah Connor really had a journey, where she started out as an almost pure damsel and turned into a woman who you could believe would kick your ass, because she would fight tooth and nail with no regards for her own safety if she has to in order to win and I think Hamilton brought that to the screen perfectly. Back then Sarah Connor was an inspiring hero for everyone.
Exactly! We didn't need to have a 12 year old Emilia in this movie to give us this whole "women are strong" idea. It was already there! Sara Connor, Ellen ripley, and many others showed us that women are tough. Sure, she is a damsel for a bit in the first one, but she toughens up toward the end and is a complete badass in T2. Killing her off for T3 was criminal.
I really think you're over thinking this movie in a need to pick it apart. I thought it was really good.
At least they didn't kill John Connor off in this movie and rewrite the future completely and replace it with a feminator feminazi fantasy.
@FocusFanatic if you're talking about Sarah connor you are mistaken and wrong just rewatched it. I honestly even enjoyed genisys more than terminator 3. My list is terminator 1. Terminator 2. Terminator salvation and genisys
Better dead then genesis 🤢🤮
Joker Syniclus Agreed man. Genisys is not actually that bad.
@@georgechapman9688 Dumbass better a villian than Dark Fate atleast John Connor can change back to a hero than die for nothing.
i liked only the first 2 films
Only the first two are needed. Although, I didn't hate Salvation as much as everyone else.
Salvation is decent. That's not saying much. It looks like a masterpiece compared to Genysis.
Rise of the Machines had a decent ending, and a few other good moments. Salvation was a bit ropey, but neat CGI and tech.
They are the best, and Salvation makes for a good prequel to them, given it takes place in the Future War.
What’s funny is the trailers spoiled that john connor is a terminator...
At least this terminator has a better ending Sarah is saved, Kyle is saved, the humanity is saved, the T-800 Didn't get destroyed(he just got upgraded) and John probably would live in a normal life in the future.
‘Terminator 6’ coming in 2019, by James Cameron and Tim Miller. Linda Hamilton back as old Sarah Connor.
Back when I watched T1 and T2 I always invisioned John Connor to be this huge beast of a man with a dark cold look to his face with deep scars that tell the story. Then I watch genisyis and see this little shrimp that hardly looks like a leader
CORTNEY was NOT OK. He never is! hes the most wooden actor ever- literally destroyed the die hard movies and how he portrayed Reese... i mean WOW. He really either gets acting lessons or retires!
He was a good Captain Boomerang.
Fair enough. But he just WASN'T Kyle to me.
Anton Yelchin was MUCH better.
chris sonofpear1 totally agree! He even nailed the look and certain expressions of a young Kyle .
Perfect summation. This movie made me realize Hollywood is ALWAYS capable of new lows. Like going into the heart of a beloved franchise's mythos and reveling in its utter disdain for it.
No, it was good and had so much potential, a part of me is upset that they didn't continue the trilogy
OMG!! YES!! I completely agree.
It was the first terminator movie to really try and expand the story into new potential directions. The script and tone of the movie could have been a lot better, but the concept and story behind it all really opens up new possibilities in the terminator universe. I also love the idea of John being the villain, a lot of people don't like it but to me it makes perfect sense, if skynet could use the one strongest weapon the humans had why wouldn't they, especially as everything else they have done to get rid of john has failed. People say it messes up the timeline but the terminator timeline was messed up from the first movie. Overall its not the best terminator movie by a long shot but its nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be in my opinion, its better than 3 and salvation and far better than dark fate and out of all the terminator movies it offers the most potential to expand the story which is something the series desperately needs. I think people are just very hung up on their experiences as children watching terminator and T2 and still have not learned to let that go.
i got nothing good to say about this movie.
Not only it's a bad movie on his own merit(shitty CGI,bad acting,story full of plotholes) but it also makes everything that happened in the first 2 classic movies,obsolete.
The second movie has a perfect ending which never needed a sequel,but greedy Hollywood is gonna milk this franchise into oblivion.
The only Terminator movie,I would like to watch,would be a prequel,set in the future,showing John Connor fighting the machines,directed by James Cameron,Rated-R and in the same style,as the flashbacks from T1,but sadly they ruined this idea already with T4:Salvation.
Emilia Clarke said nobody liked working on this movie, and that she was relieved there wasn't a sequel (to the Genisys timeline version). That about sums it up.
I liked Salvation much better than this film. Bale was more convincing as John Connor.
That movie deserves more credit! The gritty atmosphere is a great achievement in itself.
Bale throwing his weight around to have a bigger role in the story didn't really do TS any favors. But he looked like adult John from T2
And it was better written. It could work as a prequel, rather than a sequel,
I haven't found anyone else who likes salvation
I thought the humans destroyed the time machine just after sending Reece through in the original movie? Now it seems they didn't and that time travel may be a two-way street. If that is the case, why didn't Skynet specially program a few Terminators in tradecraft and to avoid conflict, and send them back to do genealogical research on Sarah, Reece and a few others. They could bury that information in secure locations, multiple copies, for Skynet to find later. Then spam the past with Terminators to kill Reece and other resistance leader families before the leader in question was born? or have Terminators on standby at the time of Skynet's rise to kill them before they can react?
That's the kind potential they get when they change the rules of the universe the original movie established.
I was worried all the way up to 6:00 that you were going to praise the movie.... relieved! You did a wonderful job of creating and building and sustaining tension! You made me care, you made me want to find out what would happen next, you had me invested, and you resolved what you set up for a satisfying conclusion. Well done! Incidentally your brief review did all the things that the movie in question didn’t. Double kudos!
This is how I felt when the first Tom Cruise Mission Impossible movie came out. I watched Mission Impossible as a kid and later in my teens...and they decided to kill off the crew, only have Tom Cruise survive, and make JIM the bad guy?! It really felt like a middle finger from Hollywood.
Was Jericho (tv show) really that bad next, please Dave.
it's from the 2000's had 2 seasons got cancelled, it was on Netflix. Don't know if it's still there but I've watched and really loved.
If you watched/watch's it I would love to hear what you think of it Davie.
yes, it is the worst of the worst.
T3 is a godawfull 1:1 ripoff from T2. Genyshit are just scenes and has no story at all.
Terminator Salvation is the worst. So many plot holes.
The worst, by far, is Dark Fate.
Salvation sucked because it didn't have Arnold. But if turned it into a trilogy set ENTIRELY in the dystopian future, then it would have been awesome!!!
I find T3 and Salvation almost tied. And both are BETTER than GeniSys.
@@grantorino2325 TS sucked because it doesnt have Arnold???? Ok -_-
Future war parts were damn cool.
The worst line in the movie when pops shoots john,
sarah: why?
Kyle: because he's a killer
Really?? thats the best the writers could come up with??
When I got it on DVD years ago, I watched it at least half a dozen times. It is very enjoyable.
Do Terminator Salvation. I quite enjoyed that film.
Agreed!!
Me too. It works as a prequel to the first two.
They should have stuck with that route. I wanted more stories in the future war, not the present day.
It still had the problem of grabbing and throwing terminators -.- it's not good when you are rooting for the bad guy to just kill them already
MrSerious 3rd best film in my opinion. Actually stayed away from the time travel elements and focused on the early days of the war.
Terminator 2 and, to a greater degree, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles were both fucking fantastic.
Now I don't think this is all the writers fault but more of the producers. Producers just want a save way to make money. They don't care if the movie is crap, only about money. Now I am not saying that all producers are like this.
Me: *Looks at the video and hasn't even clicked on it yet*
Also Me: "Yes, yes it really was that bad..."
I have not seen it yet and I don’t want too.
You're not alone brother. I refuse to watch it as well.
good manweller1
lucky you
manweller1 youre not missing much. The review hits the key scenes of the movie.
You're losing nothing great. Honestly, the movie was just made for the optical effects... It's modern Hollywood unfortunately
No, this movie tried something different FINALLY and kinda showed how the paradox keeps overlapping and causing time to collapse on itself.
Though not well executed, i commend it for at least being different.
Unlike dark fate that was the EXACT SHIT WE HAVE SEEN 5 TIMES
I will agree for the most part, with the giant looming exception of the plot point of multiple simultaneously existing timelines (or perhaps dimensions, we never really get to flesh that out) that the Skynet entity (Matt Smith) came from being very original, particularly in comparison with the rest of the ideas in the movie. I really would like to have seen more of that. I'm likely in the minority there, I'm sure.
Yea casting for Sarah Connor was preatty horrible. Dialogs were trash. Pseudo feminist agenda pushing atrocious. I liked story tho. Yea it had a lot of recycled element but i found it interesting on how they put them together. And I was geniuinly suprised by John turn to the dark side. And I found him preaty intimidating with whole nanomachine shtick. Ending was stupid and shallow. If Pops had really sacrificed himself that would add some gravity to this ending, some meaning. That way it is another lets leve ourselves easy way to a sequel.
T1 & T2 are Terminator films. Everything else doesn't exist.
That is where the original ends, but I did like Salvation as it explored the Future War. Also, I hope the new film is good.
Wow you must be religious
If you haven't already, would you done one for T4? I really like that one, and I think it's truely Erie.
I really enjoyed it as with ALL of the Terminator films.
Thank you.
"emilia clarke is a good actress", funniest shit I've years all day
The CGI is literally perfect? Emilia Clarke is a great actress? You're losing it Dave.
Booshman
I don't think she's a bad actress at all. She's done some ok movies and she completely nails it as Dany from game of thrones every year.
I actually kinda like it. I will agree it destroys previously established canon but really when it comes to time travel, I'm willing to make an accomodations and possibilities for alternate time lines.
To be honest john becoming terminator is not that bad of idea in my terminator nerd mind
It wasn’t amazing, but it wasn’t horrible. I enjoyed it
@ That's some nice thing to read. I am happy that there are still good parents in this world, i am pretty sure your son loves you so much ! ^^
I liked it more then 3 and 4
Honestly, I feel that John Connor is the McGuffin of the Terminator movies. He's just an excuse to keep Arnie and Sarah Connor's adventures moving forward. I don't judge this actress height as a reason to not accept her portrayal of Sarah Connor. She seems more capable for the role than replacement Kyle Reese. I don't know...Maybe people look different than their alternate timeline Doppelgangers? It's not a great movie and sure didn't live up to the first 3 movies, but it was a decent popcorn flick. What did you really expect? I will see the new one with Linda Hamilton, but my sites are set low so as not to be disappointed. Who knows? It may be the Citizen Kane of killer robot movies.
Dark Fate will be 50 times worse..
Wrong
I actually enjoyed it for what it was. If we are going to imagine time travel, alternate realities exist everywhere. Many people crushed Emilia Clarke for her portrayal of Sarah Connor, but I thought she was excellent as the alternate reality Sarah.
Its like they cant get John Connor right. He doesnt fit, neither did the short dude from terminator 3. The best adult John Connor was Bale.
89tilinfinity Bale sucked too he was emotionless as the terminators he was fighting.He definitely wasn't a leader of men
One thing that got me was how 'stoppable' Terminators were in this film.
Remember where you would go through a Terminator film and wonder, 'how can we stop this future machine with modern-day weapons?'
The fact that Sarah can easily stop a T-800 with that rifle, and Kyle blows it's head off? With that kind of logic, all Kyle in the 84 film had to do was take that explosive and aim for the thing's neck.
Short answer: yes - it was terrible.
I still think it's a pretty good time. At least better than Dark Fate.
Hi, what is the name of the 8 bit song from the show intro? Thank you
One thing that’s weird; in T1 Kyle explains that they had Skynet against the wall, and sending the Terminator back was it’s last ditch effort to survive. After Kyle goes after it the time machine was supposed to be destroyed to prevent any more machines messing with the past.
So that would make everything (even the near perfect T2) nonsensical UNLESS something stops John Connor from breaking the time machine (something like Genesys)
This film DOES have its own sense of identity: It is the first Terminator movie I have never watched.
xD Yeah, it's probs the last one I'll ever watch in my case. Imo they just got progressively weaker after 2. Don't get the hate for 3, I think it's the last decent one.
@@andrejz8954 I like 3 very much. I don't understand the hate for that either.
In a word: yes! I'm a huge Terminator fan, I even love 3 and "Salvation", but "Genisys" (what's up with the pseudo edgy spelling?) was unwatchable crap, and I turned it off after a few minutes. Jai Courtney is awful in everything he does, somebody even said in a UA-cam video: "Hollywood, stop trying to make Jai Courtney happen." On a side note, UA-cam's "censor bot" obviously has a very limited vocabulary, otherwise it would know that "bastardization" is a perfectly legitimate and unoffensive word. Maybe they should download a dictionary.
John McSween You said it, bruh!
I think 'Genisys' was like a brand or the name of something. They weren't doing that to be l33t or something.
Evacer ok, I missed that, having ejected the movie in disgust after a few minutes
On behalf of all Australians I would like to apologies for Jai Courtney for some reason Hollywood seems to think that this guy is an "Actor" ditto for Sam Worthington
strugen We forgive you, as Australia more than makes up for a few duds with awesome action stars with acting chops from Errol Flynn to Hugh Jackman to Chris Hemsworth, etc.
heh, now we know where Last Jedi got their play book from.
This movie also had a huge plot oversight in which Skynet could've simply won the war. When the group went to send back Kyle Reese through the time machine, one of their troops was secretly a machine, the one that captures the leader. All that machine had to do was to kill Kyle Reese before he disrobed and made the time jump, and Skynet would've won.
With the new movie coming out....
.genysis is actually decent LOL
Genysis is still a flaming bag of shit
it got even worse
i really liked it. alot more than the new star wars. or ghostbusters.
Jules Vallez that is like comparing dog shit to cat shit. Both are shit.
That's not saying much
I enjoyed Genisys, but I've always enjoyed the science and technology more than human characteristics...that is, I like watching the Terminators in action, and the consequences of time travel; I don't care about John Connor's humanity or Sarah Connor's transformation to a survivor/warrior, never have...the T-800 (or T-850 in T3) has always been my favorite character. I like the science in 'sci-fi' more than the fiction.
saying you liked it better than the new star wars and ghostbusters aint saying much
Rj Diggs
Actually, I'm very intelligent. I write software for a living, and watch documentaries about cutting edge technology and physics for fun. I've had people suggest I study to be a physicist, but I know I'm not quite that smart.
They should have kept the alternate ending to T2 where is shows and elderly Sara Conner watches here son who is a father playing with his daughter.
Great idea, maybe go into films that are under rated and under the radar like you did with Tron Legacy also? nice one man. Looking forward to more videos like this. Take care and all the best.
“Emilia Clarke is a great actress” hahahahahahaha that is the funniest shit you’ve ever said Dave.
I really liked Genisys. I think people should start realizing that these movies are science fiction, not science fact. When T2 came out the special effects were cutting edge. I feel audiences are spoiled these days with the commonplace technology we have as for as special effects go. Had Genisys come out 1991, it would've been as big as a hit as T2 because of the special effects. Are there plot holes? Yes, but show me one sc-fi hit movie that doesn't have plot holes.
Your post is really elitist. When did audiences say this was science fact? What this movie gets wrong is the story, the characters, and the effects are 80% garbage.
@@captainmarvelwilson508 elitist? Lol wtf are you talking about?
Man were you on point with this one! You nailed the thing to the wall!
Terminator Genisys was the absolute worst. The other four movies follow a simple straightforward plot of having to protect John and keep him alive for his victory against Skynet. The decision to turn him into the main baddie and have him try to kill his parents before they have a chance to mate (as "Pops" so eloquently puts it) just goes to show that the writers stopped giving a fuck halfway through the film, and if they don't give a fuck, then why should I?
The 1984 part of the film was decent enough though, and it actually would have been much better had the entire film just taken place there with the T-1000 as the main villain, even if the end result would have been like a bizarre mashup of T1 & T2. It'd be much better than what we actually got.
So basically you want the same movie over and over again or you won’t like it?
I'm going to take the controversial stance. As a long-time fan of the Terminator films and the Sarah Connor Chronicles TV show, overall Terminator Genisys is really good. The two main things people complain about are trashing the legacy of previous films and that the casting of Genesis was piss-poor.
First let's discuss trashing the legacy of Terminator. Skynet is trying to destroy Humanity, and the way that it attempts to do this consistently through the films and show is to either kill or corrupt the Connors. It uses terminators, it uses time travel, it even uses humans who have been corrupted to meet this goal. How does using Nanobots to corrupt John Connors body become a betrayal to Terminators tone, universe and legacy? I understand that people really like the characters of John and Sarah Connor. But how does Skynet using new technology to meet its end goal and succeeding, in any way contradict or stop being believable in The Terminator universe? Please set aside your holy cows and think about it logically. Even Goku died occasionally in Dragon Ball Z. I look forward to the "reeeeee" response to this question.
The second complaint is the casting. I agree that the guy that played Kyle Reese is completely wrong. I can kind of see what they were going with Sarah's character, they were trying to go for an actress who looked as close to Linda Hamilton as possible, even if she is a womanlet. I disagree that the guy playing John Connor was a poor casting choice, and this is because I saw Christian Bales performance playing John Connor, as well as that fucking awful teenager from Terminator 3. Out of everyone who's played John Connor, the latest entry is a breath of fresh air compared to previous performances. Arnold Schwarzenegger is of course the star of the show and he was the best part of this movie. I really enjoyed the Father Figure angle, as well as the humanizing of T800, where he is literally falling apart trying to protect those he loves.
Terminator Genisys is not the worst Terminator movie, but it's not the best one either. It's above average if you were to grade all of them together. And by that metric Terminator Genisys is really good.
Honestly, if you kind of look at it in a Multiverse theory kinda way, it's easy to overlook a lot of the issues. However, I do think that Jason Clark and Jai Courtney are the most bland people on this earth and I could not pick either out of a lineup if they robbed me without a mask. There were a few interesting parts of this movie, such as the Terminator getting a job in construction to help build the escape room at the end (I'd totally watch that as a Netflix series), or the detective who was going on about the robots and no one believing him. I did like the acid melting the T1000, and Sarah randomly shooting one of them because she had no idea which was which. There were some cool little parts of the movie, but on the whole they were just small ideas. Like a brainstorming conversation with a bunch of nerd friends at 3 am on a gaming night. Other than that, I think this movie is endemic of Hollywood right now: just a watered down cash grab that takes no real risks. A few parts were cool, but why bother? I just think of it as the Crap Universe, and move on. I don't hate it, but I'm not gonna race out to see the next one after this one was so bland. Even Ridley Scott is not immune to this, just watch Alien Covenant. He and everyone else forgot what made the Alien so terrifying. It was just out there, with no idea where it came from. I didn't need to know that some fucked up robot playing God decided to create them for weird reasons. It's just dumb. I know Jim Cameron gave this movie his blessing, but I don't think he really cares either at this point.
Someone did a great video on the Terminator timeline. Which totally explains why this movie makes a lot of sense. I actually really like Genysis and I have been a Terminator fan since I was a kid. I even just watched T3 which I hated but now I like. I don't think this guy gets it. T3 was such a rehash of T2 and he ate it up...makes no sense.
Yes. Yes it was.
Oh yeah, I did actually like the dual memory thing too. That's how always I thought things would work out in Back to the Future for Marty. He'd be disorientated for a while but eventually, he'd have 2 sets of memories. He get's to keep his old memories due to exposure to time travel... just my take on it.
There were some good moments. I liked it when Terminator Connor is stuck in the scanner, struggling against it to break free, and its partly suggestive like the evolution of man. If I'm honest, I wouldn't mind being nanobotted strong and healthy and able to recover from major injury.
It was horrible
I can accept it as a film. The biggest problem I had with it was that (much like Terminator Salvation) they gave away waaay too much in the trailer and even on the movie poster. When are they showing off Connor as a terminator BEFORE he's even introduced as John Connor?
If you think them making John Connor the baddie in this film was disrespectful to the Terminator legacy, wait until you see the first five minutes of Dark Fate, lol.
You forgot the mid credits scene.
Yeah, the heavy-handed feminist crap at the expense of the original film's legacy was what killed it for me, too.