Watching you bro makes me so joyous man because back then it wasn’t out there it was just a circle of people that loved it cause it wasn’t an official genre they even had to use pirate radio stations like DejavuFM & RinseFM. Just warms my heart seeing how people over seas react especially you because your are one of a kind man that actually has gone deeeeeep into the scene you’ve even shown me some stuff that people have linked you to watch.
I feel the exact same way bro. It's mad seeing grime MCs on TV adverts and films etc. Coming home from school and recording sets. I've still got a shoe box full of grime sets.
Glad you enjoyed it. I like this documentary as it explains some of the stuff you was asking about. It shows how it developed from many different genres. I watched your entire vid and can't remember one question you had lol. Hopefully someone will have taken notes haha. Peace
LARGE UP FLOOBS 1:19 - yes 4:58 - C Cane - footage from 'Grime Show: C Cane & Friends' 5:55 - Yeah that's garage 6:45 - Still waiting on the Young Man Standing 3 visuals with the Wiley vs Lethal clash 🙌 8:12 - Real accent, bit exaggerated 9:45 - Yeah, unless you met them or where from the same ends and saw them about or went school with them or went to the same youth clubs/parties. If not then not until a few years later when you saw them on DVDs or Music Videos on TV/UA-cam or MySpace or if you saw them at a show. 15:47 - 🤣👌 17:12 - He was doing this on garage too with Charlie Sloth, Nasty Jack, Swarvo, Skrapz etc (Hype Squad) on pirate radio. (and yes Charlie Sloth used to be a garage MC on pirate radio before he rapped and before he became a DJ. 17:34 - I can't see because your cam is in the way, it might be Skiba (RIP) - 1 sec lemme check the original vid - YES it is Skibadee (RIP) - He was a MASSIVE influence on SO many MCs in grime. He was a DnB MC, and ended up in the same crew as Stormin (SaSaSaS) before they both passed 🙏 18:38 - 🤣🤣🤣🤣💯💯💯💯 19:39 - 90% of MCs have there own little phrase/saying, some are COLD 19:49 - You could check out his other documentary - 'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.' - Documentary about how the US changed a genre to a point where they alienated the original fanbase and the people who started it - Happened at the same time as grime and there is a lot of overlap 23:04 - 'Danny J Lewis - Spend The Night' (original) 23:38 - 'Give a girl a dead line of coke, SHE'LL WANNA SPEND THE NIGHT WITH YOU' 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 24:57 - 💯 26:47 and 27:29- Watch how he projects his voice towards and around the mic as well controls the distance from it, you will see D Double E and P Money do this too, real MC shiz. 27:09 - 🤣🤣🤣🤣 - (not a engineer btw but I know what you are saying) 27:19 - lol now it looks like I just googled it 🤣 28:20 - *SHOUT OUT TINTZ* BLACK LIKE, BLACK LIKE IT'S BLACKER DAN NOBODY BLACKER DAN 😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖 28:40 - Large up Kirby T 29:27 - Large up Oblig 30:42 - Devlin 30:43 - Jammz 30:47 - Manga 34:34 - footage is from the 10 min clip - 'N.A.S.T.Y CREW - DE JA VU FM - JANUARY 6TH 2004.' 34:58 - Bow is just one part of E3. 35:30 - Tinchy was born in Ghana but grew up in Bow E3, but Chip is from Tottenham, North London. 35:34 - Tinchy is 4 years older than chip. 36:02 - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 37:18 - Shizzle was cold, pretty sure he was from east tho (he was in East Connection) 37:21 - Skrapsta is now Skrapz (Church Road/Ice City/CSB - Nines' boy) - he currently on a murder case that got a hung jury 2 days ago, retrial set for next summer 😤 Skrapz, Swarvo and Flirta used to MC garage in north on Raw Misson FM with *Charlie Sloth* (yes he used to MC before he rapped and then became a DJ), Nasty Jack and a few others as part of 'Hype Squad' (aka the original SLK). 27:23 - SWARVO IS A PERSONAL FAVOURITE OF MINE TOO *SWARVO IS THE GUY WHO FUCKED UP GHETT'S TEETH....* Swarvo kills these sets: 'Oblig With Swarvo, Discarda, Nasty Jack, Syer B, Fudz & Tommy B - PyroRadio - (15/08/2018)' 'DJ Jedah With Roachee, Manga Saint Hilare, Scratchy, Riko Dan, Breeze, Swarvo, Durrty Skanx & Subten' - Bit long Nasty Jack SHELLS: 'Trends B2B DOK With Nasty Jack, Logan, Name Bliss & Jo So Sick - PyroRadio - (13/09/2018)' (Not SLK, he's NASTY (Marcus, Griminal, Lil Nasty, DJ Mak 10's cousin) but the Pyro sets made me think of this. 37:31 - CAP, check my comment on the Narstie video, you knew 90% of them. 40:28 - Nah that ain't Flirta, that's a sample of 'Richard Pryor Dialogue' (1976) at 4:17 41:03 - On an island south of Turkey, north of Egypt, west of Syria aka HOT 43:18 - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 44:43 - 🤣 48:58 - 'Gundam - Pound Cake Refix' REFIXEM Free on his Bandcamp on GUNDAM003 49:16 - 2 Step was a type of dance music with a 2 step drum pattern - 2 step evolved into dubstep (and no, not the dubstep you have heard of) - Dubstep was 2 step mixed with Dub (Dub is a Jamaican genre that was a progression of reggae that focused on the bass end of the music). Definitely check out Timbah's other documentary - 'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.' 49:48 - 'Gundam - Pound Cake Refix' Love me a good grime refix Free on his Bandcamp on GUNDAM003 50:47 - Grime can't die, the people at the core of it won't switch up. It has it's low points but if you know where to look, then you will never get bored. 50:48 - It has already survived and come back like 3 times 🤣🤣🤣 52:14 - Sort of, more soft, less woke, more close minded. 52:43 - So Solid Crew did it because Dizzee pinched Lisa Maffia's bum. 53:10 - That's the rest of 67 along with LD/Scribz (except the one that was in jail at the time) 53:34 - 'The Police vs Grime Music - A Noisey Film' is a great documentary on this 55:21 - The beat is a refix, it is where you chop up the song to make it repeat certain hits and parts or the song. It is also a bootleg refix (bootleg meaning no permission from the original producer). 'Gundam - Pound Cake Refix' 56:55 - That's just how Logan Sama speaks, I do feel like he was getting a bit emotional to the end of the sentence where he says 'It became very difficult'. 57:40 - 🤣🤣🤣 'Skepta - 'Rolex Sweep' 'Skepta - Sunglasses At Night' 'Skepta - Badboy' AND 'Skepta - All Over The House' - music video is on p*rnhub - Skepta's mum made him issue a public apology for the video Wiley had a pop carer too 🤣🤣🤣 58:49 - 'Tempa t - Next Hype' NEEDS a reaction 59:46 - Dubstep was COLD before US ruined it, check out Timbah's other doc 'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.' 1:04:25 - These all came out of the backend of Dubstep (when people moved back to grime because US tainted the dubstep name so badly) Again: check out Timbah's other doc 'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.' 1:05:06 - 🔥 *ULTIMATE PERCY* 🔥 1:05:19 - 🥶 1:05:26 - 🙌 1:06:14 - 🤯 1:06:44 - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 TEDDYYYY 1:08:08 - Sent shivers down my body and my eyes fill with water - honestly please do 'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.' 1:08:33 - WE CREATED DUBSTEP, US RUINED IT Check out Timbah's documentary - 'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.' 1:08:45 - I AM PISSSSSSSSSED NOW *'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.'* FUCK SKRILLEX 1:15:57 - 🤣🤣🤣 - I have seen this doc a bunch of times, I normally just turn it off at this point 1:16:32 - Russian grime is actually hard - They have some FIRE producers too (Moscow Legend, Oddkut) 1:16:41 - Shout out Tre and the producer M4XW311 (and the rest of Greezy Fam) 1:16:41 - Australia has some cold MCs 1:16:51 - Big up the whole Brazil grime scene 🥶 1:17:45 - CHECK OUT 'Pakin - Japanese Grime Freestyle' America has 'American Grime' based in Florida and they have a slot on Mode FM 1:19:40 - From 'Hell In A Cell' - Ten Dixon's grime clash format with a bunch of MC's in a room all dissing each other, it's a free for all. 'DJ Argue pres: Hell in a Cell 2 | Keep Hush Live (ft. Flirta D, Ten Dixon, RD, Micofcourse & more)' 1:19:54 - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 'DJ Argue pres: Hell in a Cell 2 | Keep Hush Live (ft. Flirta D, Ten Dixon, RD, Micofcourse & more)' 1:21:11 - That's Mez - He doesn't do drill 🤣🤣🤣 A drill artist could NEVER 1:22:02 - Basically Large up Novelist, Large up Faultsz ----------------------------------------------------- The guy who made this also made another sick documentary called: *'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.'* - Dubstep is not what you know it as... at least not to the people in the UK started it... - It's about another genre that grew in parallel with Grime (Dubstep) and used to have a lot of overlap (some dubstep tracks would get spat over on pirate radio). - Then the US got hold of the genre, changed the sound but not the name. Legit ruining for the original fan base with over compression, lack or groove, stupid noises etc etc etc _'If grime is the voice of angry urban London, dubstep is its primary echo, the sound of dread bass reflecting off decaying walls.'_ It also touches on garage and the evolution into grime/dubstep Also FUCK brostep ----------------------------------------------------- I'm so going to go drop the needle on my Flirta D Dubplate after this
Both Napper and Shizzle were in East Connection, both from Hackney, back in 2002 and early-mid 2003 Shizzle, Fresh and Napper had their own crew called Triple B Millitary with DJ Mondie, Riko Swarvay, MC Titch and some other man whose names I cant remember at the moment
You might be ready for THIS now... Flirta D vs D Double E... Flirta is on stage and D Double is in the crowd... back in the day Clashes could just ignite suddenly - Enjoy!: ua-cam.com/video/n8nlcjITAPs/v-deo.html
big respect for doing this i know its a long one and hope you learned a little from it. Probably one of my favourite documentaries on Grime currently. The instrumental u was after around 50:00 is ua-cam.com/video/PbO4gmv77qE/v-deo.html i think 1:08:49 when youre talking about dubstep. The guy who did this documentary did another on how UK dubstep came about and then how America commercialised it and changed the sound, "All My Homies Hate Skrillex". Again respect bro for sitting through it considering all the requests you get
@8:18 Devilman ,similar to D Double, leans into his accent. Ive been waiting to see if you'd fall down the Birmingham grime rabbit hole , whole different approach up there.
To someone whose only seen Devilman on LOTM this is what id recommend : ua-cam.com/video/aZWLpAkaY0w/v-deo.htmlsi=O7pgeb0-a4opjMxW . The other artist (Fiasqo) is without a doubt the best female MC ive come across (Its all subjective but you'll see what i mean)
Heres a Cypher i really like, you can see the energy is different to LDN grime : ua-cam.com/video/I73Yl4hvkbM/v-deo.htmlsi=47Xby9Jn42PP-gSW. They're all fairly unknown (other than Sox) but i think thats part of what makes it so good.
I see I triggered you with skrillex being the Edm creator and God he is. 😂😂😂 jokes don’t kill me. I’ll do that doc next for sure especially since dudes docs are so quality.
@@Jurnalist_ A bit 🤣, Dubstep is such a unique genre with so many takes on it, probably some of the most intellectual electronic music I have heard. Skrillex took one aspect of it and took it to the MAX, but there was/is so much to the genre beyond that. Fun Fact: 'Holy Water by The Game' and 'Look at Me! by XXXTENTACION' are both samples of the dubstep track 'Mala - Changes'.
ALSO FLIRTA D AND D DOUBLE HAD A CLASH AT ESKIMO DANCE!!! Was a semi clash but legendary moment really early days if u wanna check that out shite footage but you can feel the energy ahaha
I feel you and I’m one of the educated. But the chest y’all say it’s not rap yet still accept a mobo in the rap category isn’t helping. Your own awards and artist don’t make the delineation so why should the world respect. This is from a person who knows they’re different yet the market and the awards and artist accepting rap mobos is not helping
I completely agree, I'm not from the Uk myself, nz. But it's a hard thing to try and get across without using a incorrect blank statement like I just did without going Into deep metaphors, it's kinda like calling viet flat pho rice noodle soup , pasta , yeah sure it's pretty much pasta but it has it's own separate cultural origins and use cases and to call it pasta because that's all you know how to describe such a dish takes away from the nuances and differences and cultural origin , love your stuff keep it coming
About London being small and everyone knowing each other. London has a population slightly bigger than New York. And by the time I was growing up, we had Grime videos on Channel U (cable) so we knew what the emcees looked like.
I always loved Flirta on tracks but when I first heard him in person on a set, that's when I realised properly how incredible he is. Often mics are bit distorted and you don't catch everything an MC says but with Flirta it never used to matter, he would just create a vibe or energy that sends the crowd insane. What he was saying was not important, we could all lock into the vibe and just be hanging on every sound like "where's it going to go next". You don't really get that with any other MC.
21 seconds is UKG. Grime came from UKG/2 STEP\Dark 4x4\Hip Hop and Jungle. It's where it's orgins came from. It's MCs came from these genres. Mostly rave genres but it's street music too... Like Wiley started as a Jungle/DNB MC...there was UKG/Early Grime crew called Hype Squad. There was a few emcees that used to do skatting,make noises... You should look for Hype Squad on Raw Mission. That set is sick Flirta D is on it.
I wish you could have experienced only ever listening to to US hip hop then only UK stuff was so solid, and Dizzy then hearing D double E on A song called POW. It was the funniest thing I’d ever seen and heard and thought it was terrible I then heard more of him and ended up loving him!
You only knew them by face if you actually was around the same ends so idk what he talking about maybe people out there endz yeah but I played football with D Double E when I was about 16-17 I am 37 now he used to go around Michael Stegmans house who’s name is MS1 idk where he is now but he used to come round his an so sessions in michaels bedroom in Leytonstone around the corner from Thatched house. I met loads being brought up there on Elsham Road but yeah people out the endz wouldn’t of known if there faces until Lord of the Mics etc etc.
@@Jurnalist_ yeah but they need licenses as well is what i mean, the same licenses that the places used to book grime mc's needed, just different ones.
To address the point you made about Logan speaking the truth about the state of grime but looking uncomfortable doing it, it's most likely because at the time Logan was a radio DJ at KISS, one of the largest radio stations in the UK. Potentially losing his day job over speaking about something he is clearly passionate about, but was actively policed, understandably stressed the man out and made him try to be as careful with his words as possible.
The 'I know ya gon' dig this' was from a popular sample pack back in the day. I'm sure charlie sloth used that and flirta also just used it in his bars
he samples, chops and applies effects to his voice WHILST rapping. One of the greats. I produce and i agree, his vocals sound like samples its so strange.
The American equivalent would be Das Efx, Chip FU (Fu Schnickens), Leaders of the New School or Supa Natural, radio set wise Grime was basically the early Cold Crush era of HipHop when MC's spat live in raves and were only heard on tape...it's basically history repeating.
Ribz got mentioned a few times in this video and I just want to point out he did time in prison for violent sexual assault of a random woman in Cricklewood train station. He engaged the girl on the platform at 6am in the morning when she told him to leave her alone he violently dragged her into the underpass at the station and sexually assaulted her. He only left when he was disturbed by an arriving train. He has claimed in recent years that it was just a robbery and he was stereo typed. Facts are he was so off his face after coming back from a rave and he seemed oblivious he was being recorded on CCTV in a train station. He had some good grime songs and set appearances but I refuse to cement his legacy in anyway. Some people want to pretend it didn't happen and turn a blind eye in the scene, or they are to scared to say anything, or they just didn't know. I say fuck that guy those crimes where never acceptable in the endz!!!
This was awesome to watch 😂❤ Love from The Bronx, NY! I’m aging myself with this one, but when I heard Skepta, D Double, THEN, Flirta D in 2005 (after a trip to the U.K.), I stopped listening to Grime. At 12 years old, I said: “Nobody will ever top what I just heard in a noisy recording of whatever Rave this is…”. I knew what I heard was special, and to this day, I am amazed I remember that first moment I heard Flirta D. I wish more people appreciated Grime, but the younger generations are taking it further and it is quite refreshing. Big up yourself bro 😎 I will link some videos below 👇 for review and enjoyment! Grandmixxer and Novelist is a cheat code: ua-cam.com/video/Yf8FmA3LWEg/v-deo.htmlsi=EdMCRKE4o9Wkxi9E (I challenge you to listen to those first 25mins and not get ‘flip over the table’ feel) Practice Hours - Novelist: ua-cam.com/video/Gm1hspDwzco/v-deo.htmlsi=VYeB2EBieWT3mDPa 2008 BET Cypher U.K.: ua-cam.com/video/yugo23Jh9oU/v-deo.htmlsi=ve5fayU-evpuUTUY (Chip, Giggs, Skept, and Ghetts in one video. Need I say more? Giggs shelled it) Griminal: ua-cam.com/video/H0FzIeHicxI/v-deo.htmlsi=Fk68euwDXLCNNXbW (at 1:50 is one of the best reloads in Grime) Peace and would love to see more Grime content! Ps. I think you would appreciate listening to my brother JOCCUSTO: ua-cam.com/video/HTBZsz9DhA0/v-deo.htmlsi=3HVz4BlLA_RtmGxU
You wouldn’t have a Ghetto/Ghetts without a Flirta D, or a Kano without a D Double… those creative flows, tones, adlibs, noises… add that to the lyricism of Kane & G - and you have world class MCs that are definitely have that UK originality and energy. WE GROW THE BEST MCs - don’t @ me 😂🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥
Skrapsta used to MC with Charlie Sloth over garage in 2002 on Raw Mission FM in Hype Squad (Hype Squad was Charlie Sloth, Flirta D, Skrapsta, Nasty Jack, Swarvo and a few others) 3Skrapz man, he just got a hung jury in that murder case and the retrial is set for next summer.
I know you've been diving into the grime scene but I'll drop a few mc's names you may not know that you should Check out; President T, Monkstar, Big Zuu, Novelist, PK, So Large, Durty Goodz, Big Narstie, DEVLIN!! Griminal, Manga, Sox, (buggsy not malone just buggsy) yeah if you've got the time and want to hear some good grime mc's theirs a few 👍
He didn’t beatbox it was literally making noises I know it sounds weird but it wasn’t fully beatboxing but I can see why you would say that he just made funny sounds in his bars an he was one of a kind mc I wonder where he is now as I ain’t heard of him for a decade easily.
@@Jurnalist_ Lol I was listening to a unique darker garage track (from when garage was transitioning into grime) and it turns out one of the guys behind it went on to produce/write/mix for Kanye, Pop Smoke, Pusha T, DJ Khalad, Lil Pump, Chris Brown, Jason Derulo, Tyga, The Wanted, Rudimental etc etc Tune is: 'Active Minds - Hobson's Choice (Tune For Da Man Dem)' (The track is 7 mins long, has a vocal sample when it drops. It drops at 2 and a half mins in (long intro like most garage because it is built for vinyl mixing and built to build/progress over the duration of the track)). NOT SURE WHY THIS GOT DELETED: - Real transitional shizz - When garage started getting darker it was a vibe - Yeah real druggy music The DJ for OT Crew (Devlin's crew) used to work in record distribution to the record shops, he said this was the first record he heard where he was like 'this was when things started getting darker, when I heard this, I noticed things were getting darker, that's when grime began' (paraphrased) Definitely a vibe, definitely different to the typical upbeat and happy garage that was popping prior to this. ------------------------------------ Some more underground Garage beats (if you do do a reaction to these, do one big 'garage spesh', no need for individual vids): (in no particular order (actually probably gets better the further down you go)): Playlist: ua-cam.com/video/tjuynOikZkA/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TheCunce (one of the songs was the one Ghetts was chopping up while spitting on that Rudekid x Ghetts set I am no way near as knowledgeable about garage, thats my taste in garage anyway (tried to give a range of sounds (eclectic)).
Flirta a real UK legend for sure. Deserves WAY MORE CREDIT. Big up for the coverage 🙌
Watching you bro makes me so joyous man because back then it wasn’t out there it was just a circle of people that loved it cause it wasn’t an official genre they even had to use pirate radio stations like DejavuFM & RinseFM. Just warms my heart seeing how people over seas react especially you because your are one of a kind man that actually has gone deeeeeep into the scene you’ve even shown me some stuff that people have linked you to watch.
100000%! he is the grime version of canadian dad(who reacts to UK hiphop)
I feel the exact same way bro. It's mad seeing grime MCs on TV adverts and films etc.
Coming home from school and recording sets. I've still got a shoe box full of grime sets.
today’s is pure inspiration and I’m is not a zxpus unless it lol axis
Your reaction and journey of discovery has become a documentary on top a documentary!
A playlisted one too 😂.
I’m at the point now where I even get upset at bad sets like I’m a seasoned vet and I’m just barely past surface. 🤷🏾♂️
Really appreciate you taking the time out to gain a real understanding of UK grime. Big up 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯
Glad you enjoyed it. I like this documentary as it explains some of the stuff you was asking about. It shows how it developed from many different genres. I watched your entire vid and can't remember one question you had lol. Hopefully someone will have taken notes haha. Peace
😭😭😭😭 I hadn’t heard the clip of him doing the skip flow before at 15:47 and I started crying with laughter same time as you
It’s just so left of what I was taught man was challenging my existence and training. 😂😂😂 still though that’s a mental skill to develop.
@@Jurnalist_ I’ve listened to him on sets for a while but that one was new to me too don’t worry bro 🤣
@@Gngsht 😂😂😂 I still got a lot of learning to do but this was a good start.
C Cane:ua-cam.com/video/swhGY5F_jMY/v-deo.html
Oblib with Lioness, Manga, Queenie and Subten: ua-cam.com/video/55sJ4_A_2BY/v-deo.html
LARGE UP FLOOBS
1:19 - yes
4:58 - C Cane - footage from 'Grime Show: C Cane & Friends'
5:55 - Yeah that's garage
6:45 - Still waiting on the Young Man Standing 3 visuals with the Wiley vs Lethal clash 🙌
8:12 - Real accent, bit exaggerated
9:45 - Yeah, unless you met them or where from the same ends and saw them about or went school with them or went to the same youth clubs/parties.
If not then not until a few years later when you saw them on DVDs or Music Videos on TV/UA-cam or MySpace or if you saw them at a show.
15:47 - 🤣👌
17:12 - He was doing this on garage too with Charlie Sloth, Nasty Jack, Swarvo, Skrapz etc (Hype Squad) on pirate radio.
(and yes Charlie Sloth used to be a garage MC on pirate radio before he rapped and before he became a DJ.
17:34 - I can't see because your cam is in the way, it might be Skiba (RIP) - 1 sec lemme check the original vid -
YES it is Skibadee (RIP) - He was a MASSIVE influence on SO many MCs in grime.
He was a DnB MC, and ended up in the same crew as Stormin (SaSaSaS) before they both passed 🙏
18:38 - 🤣🤣🤣🤣💯💯💯💯
19:39 - 90% of MCs have there own little phrase/saying, some are COLD
19:49 - You could check out his other documentary - 'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.'
- Documentary about how the US changed a genre to a point where they alienated the original fanbase and the people who started it
- Happened at the same time as grime and there is a lot of overlap
23:04 - 'Danny J Lewis - Spend The Night' (original)
23:38 - 'Give a girl a dead line of coke, SHE'LL WANNA SPEND THE NIGHT WITH YOU' 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
24:57 - 💯
26:47 and 27:29- Watch how he projects his voice towards and around the mic as well controls the distance from it, you will see D Double E and P Money do this too, real MC shiz.
27:09 - 🤣🤣🤣🤣 - (not a engineer btw but I know what you are saying)
27:19 - lol now it looks like I just googled it 🤣
28:20 - *SHOUT OUT TINTZ*
BLACK LIKE, BLACK LIKE
IT'S BLACKER DAN
NOBODY BLACKER DAN
😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖
28:40 - Large up Kirby T
29:27 - Large up Oblig
30:42 - Devlin 30:43 - Jammz 30:47 - Manga
34:34 - footage is from the 10 min clip - 'N.A.S.T.Y CREW - DE JA VU FM - JANUARY 6TH 2004.'
34:58 - Bow is just one part of E3.
35:30 - Tinchy was born in Ghana but grew up in Bow E3, but Chip is from Tottenham, North London.
35:34 - Tinchy is 4 years older than chip.
36:02 - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
37:18 - Shizzle was cold, pretty sure he was from east tho (he was in East Connection)
37:21 - Skrapsta is now Skrapz (Church Road/Ice City/CSB - Nines' boy) - he currently on a murder case that got a hung jury 2 days ago, retrial set for next summer 😤
Skrapz, Swarvo and Flirta used to MC garage in north on Raw Misson FM with *Charlie Sloth* (yes he used to MC before he rapped and then became a DJ), Nasty Jack and a few others as part of 'Hype Squad' (aka the original SLK).
27:23 - SWARVO IS A PERSONAL FAVOURITE OF MINE TOO
*SWARVO IS THE GUY WHO FUCKED UP GHETT'S TEETH....*
Swarvo kills these sets:
'Oblig With Swarvo, Discarda, Nasty Jack, Syer B, Fudz & Tommy B - PyroRadio - (15/08/2018)'
'DJ Jedah With Roachee, Manga Saint Hilare, Scratchy, Riko Dan, Breeze, Swarvo, Durrty Skanx & Subten' - Bit long
Nasty Jack SHELLS:
'Trends B2B DOK With Nasty Jack, Logan, Name Bliss & Jo So Sick - PyroRadio - (13/09/2018)'
(Not SLK, he's NASTY (Marcus, Griminal, Lil Nasty, DJ Mak 10's cousin) but the Pyro sets made me think of this.
37:31 - CAP, check my comment on the Narstie video, you knew 90% of them.
40:28 - Nah that ain't Flirta, that's a sample of 'Richard Pryor Dialogue' (1976) at 4:17
41:03 - On an island south of Turkey, north of Egypt, west of Syria aka HOT
43:18 - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
44:43 - 🤣
48:58 - 'Gundam - Pound Cake Refix'
REFIXEM
Free on his Bandcamp on GUNDAM003
49:16 - 2 Step was a type of dance music with a 2 step drum pattern - 2 step evolved into dubstep (and no, not the dubstep you have heard of)
- Dubstep was 2 step mixed with Dub (Dub is a Jamaican genre that was a progression of reggae that focused on the bass end of the music).
Definitely check out Timbah's other documentary - 'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.'
49:48 - 'Gundam - Pound Cake Refix'
Love me a good grime refix
Free on his Bandcamp on GUNDAM003
50:47 - Grime can't die, the people at the core of it won't switch up.
It has it's low points but if you know where to look, then you will never get bored.
50:48 - It has already survived and come back like 3 times 🤣🤣🤣
52:14 - Sort of, more soft, less woke, more close minded.
52:43 - So Solid Crew did it because Dizzee pinched Lisa Maffia's bum.
53:10 - That's the rest of 67 along with LD/Scribz (except the one that was in jail at the time)
53:34 - 'The Police vs Grime Music - A Noisey Film' is a great documentary on this
55:21 - The beat is a refix, it is where you chop up the song to make it repeat certain hits and parts or the song.
It is also a bootleg refix (bootleg meaning no permission from the original producer).
'Gundam - Pound Cake Refix'
56:55 - That's just how Logan Sama speaks,
I do feel like he was getting a bit emotional to the end of the sentence where he says 'It became very difficult'.
57:40 - 🤣🤣🤣
'Skepta - 'Rolex Sweep'
'Skepta - Sunglasses At Night'
'Skepta - Badboy'
AND
'Skepta - All Over The House' - music video is on p*rnhub
- Skepta's mum made him issue a public apology for the video
Wiley had a pop carer too 🤣🤣🤣
58:49 - 'Tempa t - Next Hype' NEEDS a reaction
59:46 - Dubstep was COLD before US ruined it,
check out Timbah's other doc 'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.'
1:04:25 - These all came out of the backend of Dubstep (when people moved back to grime because US tainted the dubstep name so badly)
Again: check out Timbah's other doc 'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.'
1:05:06 - 🔥 *ULTIMATE PERCY* 🔥
1:05:19 - 🥶
1:05:26 - 🙌
1:06:14 - 🤯
1:06:44 - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 TEDDYYYY
1:08:08 - Sent shivers down my body and my eyes fill with water
- honestly please do 'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.'
1:08:33 - WE CREATED DUBSTEP, US RUINED IT
Check out Timbah's documentary - 'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.'
1:08:45 - I AM PISSSSSSSSSED NOW
*'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.'*
FUCK SKRILLEX
1:15:57 - 🤣🤣🤣 - I have seen this doc a bunch of times, I normally just turn it off at this point
1:16:32 - Russian grime is actually hard - They have some FIRE producers too (Moscow Legend, Oddkut)
1:16:41 - Shout out Tre and the producer M4XW311 (and the rest of Greezy Fam)
1:16:41 - Australia has some cold MCs
1:16:51 - Big up the whole Brazil grime scene 🥶
1:17:45 - CHECK OUT 'Pakin - Japanese Grime Freestyle'
America has 'American Grime' based in Florida and they have a slot on Mode FM
1:19:40 - From 'Hell In A Cell' - Ten Dixon's grime clash format with a bunch of MC's in a room all dissing each other, it's a free for all.
'DJ Argue pres: Hell in a Cell 2 | Keep Hush Live (ft. Flirta D, Ten Dixon, RD, Micofcourse & more)'
1:19:54 - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
'DJ Argue pres: Hell in a Cell 2 | Keep Hush Live (ft. Flirta D, Ten Dixon, RD, Micofcourse & more)'
1:21:11 - That's Mez - He doesn't do drill 🤣🤣🤣
A drill artist could NEVER
1:22:02 - Basically
Large up Novelist, Large up Faultsz
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The guy who made this also made another sick documentary called:
*'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.'*
- Dubstep is not what you know it as... at least not to the people in the UK started it...
- It's about another genre that grew in parallel with Grime (Dubstep) and used to have a lot of overlap (some dubstep tracks would get spat over on pirate radio).
- Then the US got hold of the genre, changed the sound but not the name. Legit ruining for the original fan base with over compression, lack or groove, stupid noises etc etc etc
_'If grime is the voice of angry urban London, dubstep is its primary echo, the sound of dread bass reflecting off decaying walls.'_
It also touches on garage and the evolution into grime/dubstep
Also FUCK brostep
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I'm so going to go drop the needle on my Flirta D Dubplate after this
Bro you are something else loool
Quality reply - some stuff I didn’t know here, thanks man 🔥🔥
Both Napper and Shizzle were in East Connection, both from Hackney, back in 2002 and early-mid 2003 Shizzle, Fresh and Napper had their own crew called Triple B Millitary with DJ Mondie, Riko Swarvay, MC Titch and some other man whose names I cant remember at the moment
You might be ready for THIS now... Flirta D vs D Double E... Flirta is on stage and D Double is in the crowd... back in the day Clashes could just ignite suddenly - Enjoy!: ua-cam.com/video/n8nlcjITAPs/v-deo.html
big respect for doing this i know its a long one and hope you learned a little from it. Probably one of my favourite documentaries on Grime currently. The instrumental u was after around 50:00 is ua-cam.com/video/PbO4gmv77qE/v-deo.html i think
1:08:49 when youre talking about dubstep. The guy who did this documentary did another on how UK dubstep came about and then how America commercialised it and changed the sound, "All My Homies Hate Skrillex". Again respect bro for sitting through it considering all the requests you get
THAT DUBSTEP DOCUMENTARY IS A MUST
@8:18 Devilman ,similar to D Double, leans into his accent. Ive been waiting to see if you'd fall down the Birmingham grime rabbit hole , whole different approach up there.
To someone whose only seen Devilman on LOTM this is what id recommend : ua-cam.com/video/aZWLpAkaY0w/v-deo.htmlsi=O7pgeb0-a4opjMxW . The other artist (Fiasqo) is without a doubt the best female MC ive come across (Its all subjective but you'll see what i mean)
Heres a Cypher i really like, you can see the energy is different to LDN grime : ua-cam.com/video/I73Yl4hvkbM/v-deo.htmlsi=47Xby9Jn42PP-gSW. They're all fairly unknown (other than Sox) but i think thats part of what makes it so good.
checking both out soon bless.
36:11 - Chynaman from Haunted House Production was another Asian grime MC, think his parents came from Vietnam.. have some of his tunes on vinyl.
I love these documentary can really feel the passion people have for grime and the MCs in it
You *HAVE* to do Timbah's other documentary: 'All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.'
I see I triggered you with skrillex being the Edm creator and God he is. 😂😂😂 jokes don’t kill me. I’ll do that doc next for sure especially since dudes docs are so quality.
@@Jurnalist_ A bit 🤣, Dubstep is such a unique genre with so many takes on it, probably some of the most intellectual electronic music I have heard. Skrillex took one aspect of it and took it to the MAX, but there was/is so much to the genre beyond that.
Fun Fact: 'Holy Water by The Game' and 'Look at Me! by XXXTENTACION' are both samples of the dubstep track 'Mala - Changes'.
@@H66699 yh dubstep was the one before Skrillex got involved 😅
ALSO FLIRTA D AND D DOUBLE HAD A CLASH AT ESKIMO DANCE!!! Was a semi clash but legendary moment really early days if u wanna check that out shite footage but you can feel the energy ahaha
when we say grime isnt rap theres so many levels to that, good to see people learning even if its just a few
I feel you and I’m one of the educated. But the chest y’all say it’s not rap yet still accept a mobo in the rap category isn’t helping. Your own awards and artist don’t make the delineation so why should the world respect. This is from a person who knows they’re different yet the market and the awards and artist accepting rap mobos is not helping
I completely agree, I'm not from the Uk myself, nz. But it's a hard thing to try and get across without using a incorrect blank statement like I just did without going Into deep metaphors, it's kinda like calling viet flat pho rice noodle soup , pasta , yeah sure it's pretty much pasta but it has it's own separate cultural origins and use cases and to call it pasta because that's all you know how to describe such a dish takes away from the nuances and differences and cultural origin , love your stuff keep it coming
@@LTNZbeats fucking great reply and to not be from the Uk is extra points. Respect. 🫡
@@Jurnalist_
@@LTNZbeats happy I was put on to this. Skrillex was so repentent he got flow a Grammy. 😂😂😂
Anyone know the instrumental double clapperz is on @ 1:17:50?
About London being small and everyone knowing each other. London has a population slightly bigger than New York. And by the time I was growing up, we had Grime videos on Channel U (cable) so we knew what the emcees looked like.
I always loved Flirta on tracks but when I first heard him in person on a set, that's when I realised properly how incredible he is. Often mics are bit distorted and you don't catch everything an MC says but with Flirta it never used to matter, he would just create a vibe or energy that sends the crowd insane. What he was saying was not important, we could all lock into the vibe and just be hanging on every sound like "where's it going to go next". You don't really get that with any other MC.
21 seconds is UKG. Grime came from UKG/2 STEP\Dark 4x4\Hip Hop and Jungle. It's where it's orgins came from. It's MCs came from these genres. Mostly rave genres but it's street music too... Like Wiley started as a Jungle/DNB MC...there was UKG/Early Grime crew called Hype Squad. There was a few emcees that used to do skatting,make noises... You should look for Hype Squad on Raw Mission. That set is sick Flirta D is on it.
Found some bits coming soon.
I wish you could have experienced only ever listening to to US hip hop then only UK stuff was so solid, and Dizzy then hearing D double E on A song called POW. It was the funniest thing I’d ever seen and heard and thought it was terrible I then heard more of him and ended up loving him!
This was and is my exact journey I just wasn’t a kid for the experience. 😂😂
Skepta and flirta d had war dubs and what you've already seen when SLK rushed the stage at sidewinder (ROLL DEEP/BBK VS SLK HALLOWEEN SIDEWINDER SET)
Yes bro wouod you mind having a look at killa p hes a real grime legend
Scrufizzer saying pshh-ooohh is another influence flirta had
The first tune you liked is from s genre called 2 step alot of rnb was sample into these beats real classics
Drug dealers get kidnapped. The victim instructs someone to bring money and drugs .
Can u react to Durty Goodz - letter to titch
Big tune!!
49:00 that tune is 🔥
Scrapstar is SCRAPS ICB, used to be a decent grime artist
49:51 Poundcake- Gundam remix.
You only knew them by face if you actually was around the same ends so idk what he talking about maybe people out there endz yeah but I played football with D Double E when I was about 16-17 I am 37 now he used to go around Michael Stegmans house who’s name is MS1 idk where he is now but he used to come round his an so sessions in michaels bedroom in Leytonstone around the corner from Thatched house.
I met loads being brought up there on Elsham Road but yeah people out the endz wouldn’t of known if there faces until Lord of the Mics etc etc.
You do need a permit in america to throw a party/show that sells alcohol as well.
Liquor license would be covered by the place you book. To do it outdoors in a park you can apply for temp license.
@@Jurnalist_ yeah but they need licenses as well is what i mean, the same licenses that the places used to book grime mc's needed, just different ones.
Wow dude I linked you this morning.
To address the point you made about Logan speaking the truth about the state of grime but looking uncomfortable doing it, it's most likely because at the time Logan was a radio DJ at KISS, one of the largest radio stations in the UK. Potentially losing his day job over speaking about something he is clearly passionate about, but was actively policed, understandably stressed the man out and made him try to be as careful with his words as possible.
Flirta was in a group with skrapz when he was a grime mc and called himself skrapsta and a guy called nappa who knocked ghetts tooth out
The 'I know ya gon' dig this' was from a popular sample pack back in the day. I'm sure charlie sloth used that and flirta also just used it in his bars
Yeah big respect he doing this,and also for doing and trying to understand D Double E.
YOU NEED TO DO D DOUBLE E - FRONTLINE WITH LYRICS 🙏🙏🙏✌️😊
Dannycgrime time has got such a good catolauge of old grime tunes on his youtube
And that sampled Paris Morton beat that you wanna know about (drake poundcake) was called poundcake gundam refix
I know you gone dig this sample is from DR DRE the Chronic..... Thata where Flirta got that from..... ;) you can thank me again!
P money said he worked with rudekid for like 4 years before he even knew what he looked like.
I know that energy. I have no idea what the don who made my last ep looks like. 😂😂😂
You have to check out some Riko Dan tracks 🔥
I knew you would pause this loadssssss of times 😂
Swarvo is on another level. Especially on a dj set
he samples, chops and applies effects to his voice WHILST rapping. One of the greats.
I produce and i agree, his vocals sound like samples its so strange.
Flirta D's a merkers if u know then you know. Shutting down dances, & duppying riddims for fun. Big up Flirta & slk
Grime just about comes back for like 2 months evrey year
The American equivalent would be Das Efx, Chip FU (Fu Schnickens), Leaders of the New School or Supa Natural, radio set wise Grime was basically the early Cold Crush era of HipHop when MC's spat live in raves and were only heard on tape...it's basically history repeating.
or maybe rahzel
@@yamch Agreed 💯 also Greg Nice regarding the showmanship part.
Ribz got mentioned a few times in this video and I just want to point out he did time in prison for violent sexual assault of a random woman in Cricklewood train station. He engaged the girl on the platform at 6am in the morning when she told him to leave her alone he violently dragged her into the underpass at the station and sexually assaulted her. He only left when he was disturbed by an arriving train. He has claimed in recent years that it was just a robbery and he was stereo typed. Facts are he was so off his face after coming back from a rave and he seemed oblivious he was being recorded on CCTV in a train station. He had some good grime songs and set appearances but I refuse to cement his legacy in anyway. Some people want to pretend it didn't happen and turn a blind eye in the scene, or they are to scared to say anything, or they just didn't know. I say fuck that guy those crimes where never acceptable in the endz!!!
Nahhh no way don’t lie
This was awesome to watch 😂❤ Love from The Bronx, NY! I’m aging myself with this one, but when I heard Skepta, D Double, THEN, Flirta D in 2005 (after a trip to the U.K.), I stopped listening to Grime. At 12 years old, I said: “Nobody will ever top what I just heard in a noisy recording of whatever Rave this is…”. I knew what I heard was special, and to this day, I am amazed I remember that first moment I heard Flirta D. I wish more people appreciated Grime, but the younger generations are taking it further and it is quite refreshing.
Big up yourself bro 😎 I will link some videos below 👇 for review and enjoyment!
Grandmixxer and Novelist is a cheat code: ua-cam.com/video/Yf8FmA3LWEg/v-deo.htmlsi=EdMCRKE4o9Wkxi9E (I challenge you to listen to those first 25mins and not get ‘flip over the table’ feel)
Practice Hours - Novelist: ua-cam.com/video/Gm1hspDwzco/v-deo.htmlsi=VYeB2EBieWT3mDPa
2008 BET Cypher U.K.: ua-cam.com/video/yugo23Jh9oU/v-deo.htmlsi=ve5fayU-evpuUTUY (Chip, Giggs, Skept, and Ghetts in one video. Need I say more? Giggs shelled it)
Griminal: ua-cam.com/video/H0FzIeHicxI/v-deo.htmlsi=Fk68euwDXLCNNXbW (at 1:50 is one of the best reloads in Grime)
Peace and would love to see more Grime content!
Ps. I think you would appreciate listening to my brother JOCCUSTO: ua-cam.com/video/HTBZsz9DhA0/v-deo.htmlsi=3HVz4BlLA_RtmGxU
Yeah, So Solid were edgier (grimier) garage which was definitely a major precursor to the birth of grime.
Ppl didnt know what mcs looked liked unless they had then on myspace or suttin
Check out flirta D showerdown where he's wearing a red T-shirt cheers bro
Flirta D is to sick
Devilman legit talks like that
flirt d - wize edit is fire
You wouldn’t have a Ghetto/Ghetts without a Flirta D, or a Kano without a D Double… those creative flows, tones, adlibs, noises… add that to the lyricism of Kane & G - and you have world class MCs that are definitely have that UK originality and energy. WE GROW THE BEST MCs - don’t @ me 😂🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥
Skrillex is a dubstep artist tho what do you call it??
I think you meant to put the god of all electronic music ever. 😂😂😂😂😂
Grime strictly 140bpm so it makes it a bit easier to be able to flow your bars over any beat! Strictly 140 if it isn’t 140 it isn’t grime
The drake poundcake tune you like on here is by Gundam
Skepta had a few radio songs they wernt that bad but that the same time i was like 10 years old 😂😂
blows my mind he had a pop run.
I think he meant middle class by middle englander
Sure flirta Ds got one of the best reloads with gunshots going off in the rave!?
He is more like the UK, Biz Markie x Rahzel. Very unique.
Youd have to be a good engineer to fit them in that perfectly
They do exist.
Skrapstar now goes as skrapz affiliated with nines
Skrapsta used to MC with Charlie Sloth over garage in 2002 on Raw Mission FM in Hype Squad
(Hype Squad was Charlie Sloth, Flirta D, Skrapsta, Nasty Jack, Swarvo and a few others)
3Skrapz man, he just got a hung jury in that murder case and the retrial is set for next summer.
Broo i know this is old.. but shizzle, flirta d, ribz and napper.. pull up that forward. Proper grime tune with all of them on
Grime mcs on dubstep is so cold thats how p money blew up
I didnt accept the wave when it came by the first time ive learned since then and hopped on doing those when asked.
Tinchey is slightly older then Chip, Chip went to the same school as Wiley.
Grime was not about lyrical shit at all untill kano and ghetts come in
Brazilian skepta loool 🎉
I know you've been diving into the grime scene but I'll drop a few mc's names you may not know that you should
Check out; President T, Monkstar, Big Zuu, Novelist, PK, So Large, Durty Goodz, Big Narstie, DEVLIN!! Griminal, Manga, Sox, (buggsy not malone just buggsy) yeah if you've got the time and want to hear some good grime mc's theirs a few 👍
The lllleeegend the Mmmmyth
Hes clashed ghetts a few times on stage
He didn’t beatbox it was literally making noises I know it sounds weird but it wasn’t fully beatboxing but I can see why you would say that he just made funny sounds in his bars an he was one of a kind mc I wonder where he is now as I ain’t heard of him for a decade easily.
if you check anyone out from SLK it has to be Swarvo. The guy is an absolute machine
There is only 1️⃣ - Flirta Da Da D
Nasty crew and slk had big beef
Jmes the one who said no no
Nah u need to do some uk garage songs .
Gotta put me on my g. Would love to.
@@Jurnalist_ Lol I was listening to a unique darker garage track (from when garage was transitioning into grime) and it turns out one of the guys behind it went on to produce/write/mix for Kanye, Pop Smoke, Pusha T, DJ Khalad, Lil Pump, Chris Brown, Jason Derulo, Tyga, The Wanted, Rudimental etc etc
Tune is:
'Active Minds - Hobson's Choice (Tune For Da Man Dem)'
(The track is 7 mins long, has a vocal sample when it drops. It drops at 2 and a half mins in (long intro like most garage because it is built for vinyl mixing and built to build/progress over the duration of the track)).
NOT SURE WHY THIS GOT DELETED:
- Real transitional shizz
- When garage started getting darker it was a vibe
- Yeah real druggy music
The DJ for OT Crew (Devlin's crew) used to work in record distribution to the record shops, he said this was the first record he heard where he was like 'this was when things started getting darker, when I heard this, I noticed things were getting darker, that's when grime began' (paraphrased)
Definitely a vibe, definitely different to the typical upbeat and happy garage that was popping prior to this.
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Some more underground Garage beats (if you do do a reaction to these, do one big 'garage spesh', no need for individual vids):
(in no particular order (actually probably gets better the further down you go)):
Playlist:
ua-cam.com/video/tjuynOikZkA/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TheCunce
(one of the songs was the one Ghetts was chopping up while spitting on that Rudekid x Ghetts set
I am no way near as knowledgeable about garage, thats my taste in garage anyway (tried to give a range of sounds (eclectic)).
@@Jurnalist_ Amar - Sometimes It Snows in April
Check out Artful Dodger/Craig David - Rewind
@@yamch This is a prince remake?
I don't know about "Flirty D being the last thing I see before I die and the I can die happy"
It was a good video until it got weird.
So annoying constant stopping
Go watch the documentary you bell end you can’t be this daft.