The problem with Behaviour Charts
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I'm nearly 30 and I still remember these awful things. We had a giant chart in the main school hall visible to all students. Each student had their name on it and next to that name was starts for "good behaviour". Lunch took place in the main hall so every lunch all could see who the "good" and "bad" students were and who had the least stars. It quickly became a tool for humiliation. I never got one because I "talked back" (came from a different culture where speaking your mind is the norm Vs the British way to staying demere and quiet). As a child it destroyed my self confidence, because I didn't see myself as a bad kid, but there was the "evidence" shown to me and my classmates on the daily. I was taught to be quiet, to disappear into a corner and be seen not heard. It also was a major driver for a lot of bullying. What was worse was the inconsistency of it. Student A would get stars for just sitting down, while student B wouldn't get a single star even if they were well behaved all day. There was a strong feeling that the teachers had favourites, and it drove a feeling of "why bother". Very negative, and I feel like more teachers need to understand the impact public shaming like that can have on students well into the future. I'm not the confident firey Italian-British woman I should be, instead I lack confidence and self esteem. It shouldn't be this way. These charts are evil.
Im a teacher and I agree with you. I have never used the behaviour chart even though most teachers in my school use it.
So instead saying so much about why not, say what to do instead. In life we need motivation to keep from being embarrassed.
I'm not a big fan of the traffic lights, but it can work for a while... And I don't let them fall on the red.. When someone goes on orange, then I praise him/her by putting him back on the green for being quiet, sitting down etc. It's a nice metaphor to explain that broken things have to be repaired by the end of the day because it's better like this... my perspective.
I agree with you on this topic back in elementary I had poor communication skills and I would get extremely nervous and start stuttering if I didn't know the answer or if I was distracted in class. We didn't use color charts instead we used cards starting from green with red being the worse color to get. First grade and third grade was the worst times for me because I had teachers who would treat small issues like not answering a question correctly, forgetting your homework, acting goofy in class, etc as a big issue. So as a student who couldn't answer a question correctly I would still get my card changed from green all the way to red. I was pretty emotional and of course I didn't take it well because I was confused wondering what I did wrong. During 3rd grade I'm honestly glad my mom didn't care that I got my color changed to the worse color because one I would do my homework and still do my classwork and I still got decent grades because she knew that the color chart system was incredibly flawed. I'm 22 now and looking back I can honestly say that this color chart kinda effected my mental health through middle school and high school because I don't have that much confidence to talk to strangers outside my friend group. I am good at communicating with people now its just that I have trust issues with others and I'm more of an introvert and still like to socialize with people who I feel comfortable around with. This video was great and it made me want to open up more of how I really feel about my health thank you
teachers would go on the craziest power trips with these, my name went down for heavy breathing after we came back from gym because it was "distracting" or sometimes I would get my name moved down for harmless fidgeting that nobody except the teacher was looking at.
as a student these charts did not affect my behavior at all. I wasn't even a bad kid but instead of feeling punished I just felt embarrassed when I was moved down. It feels essentially the same to being bullied.
I agree with you! I don't want any of my students to feel shame bc they're clip got moved down or didn't get moved up. And as Jane Nelson always says, where did we ever get the crazy idea that we have to make children feel worse before they will behave better?
It just doesn't work that way.
Going to watch your behavior management tips video now! 👍
OMG you are spot on. Thank you for your great advice and highlighting ways to promote positive behaviour without emphasizing on the negative behaviour. Thank you for great advice, children should not be taught to fear. Learning should be inspiring to do good always. Great message very much appreciated thank you very much.
When I was in the first grade, we had our names on a popsicle stick and they would be put in a little pouch thingy with a colour on top. The colours were purple, green, yellow, orange, red. We started with green
Purple was "Outstanding"
Green was Average
Yellow wad like a redirect.
Orange was a consequence
Red was parent contacting.
The colours even affected recess.
Yellow was 5 minutes on the Yellow line during recess
Orange was 10 minutes on the Yellow line during recess.
Red, well, you were in the principals office.
And let me tell you. I HATED THESE.
I remember having a meltdown during to fearing my card was gonna get changed to yellow due to a misunderstanding ( it was resolved and nothing happened )but it made me so upset that there was even a chance because I have adhd and as a kid my behavior wasn’t always normal but I wasn’t what one would call “ a bad kid” and I had managed to stay in green and I feared losing that
I remember my primary had something kinda similar to this called Good To Be Green Charts, basically, if you for example disrupted the lesson, you would get a Yellow Card/Warning Card and if it continued you would get a Red Card/Consequence Card, and
if you actually managed to misbehave more after the Red Card, you would get the Purple Card which was the worst one, this one was pretty hard to get as you would have to be really really misbehaved to get this one, but if you managed to get it, then your pretty much finished, you would miss your break and lunch and would have to sit at this table at the back of the classroom
I legit remember when i would have to put my card on a Warning Card, i would feel ashamed as hell 😭
I hated being in the green. It is ‚othering‘ and divisive. A lot of people hate public praise. Just hand me a cheque in private thanks
Haha I wouldn't mind a cheque in private either!
Very helpful with a fresh perspective!
when i was younger i was undiagnosed with adhd i was always moved down for distractive behavior, behavior charts should never be used they actively hurt children’s perceptions.
I got in trouble for losing my class at recess IN SECOND GRADEEE 😭
I agree with what you are saying about behaviour charts. I'm curious about what you think about achievement charts. Do you think the whole class should know how other children are doing in reading or maths for example. Maybe you could do a video on this.
I think anything that is made public 24/7 can be a problem. Achievement charts have a similar issue to behaviour charts I think.
We had these in my classes. I refused to move mine, half of the time the teacher had to do it for me. But then I’d just move it back up to green. Eventually they just gave up
My class had one of these in 1st and 2nd grade. I only got pulled down a few times, but I felt terrible when I did. Also, I'm like 99% Sure that that stupid chart is the reason why I'm a perfectionist now.
I have adhd and I was always at the bottom and instead of getting the help I needed I got shamed for my behaviour
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thank you for making this video :)
Excellent video. I have used behavior charts in my own classroom until I realized how little it was contributing to my students actually learning to manage their own behavior and how harmful for them this tool could be. Your video made me think about another technique I'm not very comfortable with and it's giving students points every time they achieve something. I have to say it does work quite well, especially with competitive students, and I always try to give points for participation and not only for correct answers. However, I would like to find another technique that didn't involve so much competitiveness between them and constant external rewards. iI'd love to hear what you think about reward systems!
Hi Beatriz! It's so great that you were able to evolve your practice and change things when you realised they weren't working 🙂 I think the main thing is to reward not just achievement but also effort and kindness ❤
Ha I'm currently in 8th and when I was in 1st I started crying because I dropped a crayon and got my clip moved to orange. The teacher went "cry me a river." And then after that I hated them. Now I find it funny lmao and I have many memories of it.
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I can understand the concern about feelings of shame and humiliation. I think it depends on how the chart is explained to students. I think the behaviour chart successfully mirrors the disciplinarian and competitive social structure that we live in. We want to make classroom environments safe, but we also need to remind students that there are communal agreements everywhere we go. This also diminishes the cultural context of the classroom. In some settings, disobedience can lead students to extremely dire consequences such as prison or death. In some communities, it’s unfortunately something we need to be cognisant of in order to protect our students. For me, what is most important is emphasising choice and continuously offering resources to help them meet behaviour and academic goals.
The chart can successfully illustrate where they stand through a system as opposed to constant behavioural redirection, and that seems important to me. I do agree that we should strive to use it to reinforce positive behaviour rather than its opposite as much as possible.
I will continue to use the charts for now until I find a concrete alternative that is system and habit oriented. For now, it just seems that a part of the issue is how the chart is used by the educator.
I would suggest that it should be the choice of the educator to consider what management approach works best for them in relation to tools.
Overall, I like to hear dissenting opinions as that is where new ideas emerge.
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Those clip charts are like the pyramid outta dance moms
It's true on the other side that everyone can see if you're behaving bad but also if you're behaving good and that the others can make you feel bad and naughty because you fell on red... Mmm and the child might think he is like the others say he is.... I don' t know.. Any other solutions? I'm also using other ways to teach respect, turn taking and silence, and of course I'm also teaching English, which is already a lot!
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I am not a teacher but I know if I had been in class where this happens I would feel totally crushed. Children are not stupid, they know the high achievers or the goody-goodies who the teacher praises all the time, and they DO wonder what they have to do to be one of the favoured few. It's a terrible idea!
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Fantastic video, I utilize the Clip-up chart daily and I focus on positive outcomes. When I inform students to chip up, I'll give them feedback (I like how you're working hard on____, I like how you focused on _______, I like how you help so and so with their ______, etc.) on why they are clipping up. This changes the entire students' behavior in the classroom and I don't focus on just my bright students but students that need that boost (struggling students). I had misbehaved students transfer to my class and I see how my clip-up chart helps them want to work and help their classmates. It's sad that most educators will focus on the negative and shame students. I also don't put students' names on the clip but a number only that student knows. Lately, I have had my teacher helper, line leader, and caboose help me chose students who are going above and beyond to clip up. There are a number of students who will reach the top and there is always someone different on top. Focus on the positive and the behavior chart will work. Again awesome video.
I remember having these removed in my primary school because someone had a meltdown
I have seen behavior charts used successfully and classrooms where children simply don't care and adults think that moving names up or down does the job. From my experience, those charts tend to work well at the beginning of the year and then they get forgotten. As you said, kids get used to it. Once they "reached the bottom" and have been there a few times they get an idea that it's actually ok, they are fine, nothing major happened, I'm the bad one now (I don't think that just moving your name down teaches children anything). However, if there are consequences to each part of the chart, it tends to have more impact. E.g. your name lands on red, you'll miss golden time, your name is on green, you will see the headteacher for good work. Sadly, I also see that a lot of adults' negative attention is dedicated to that "bad behavior".
I dont know why or how i remember this but when i was a kid this one girl managed to get her clip to the top and everyone cheered and did the round of applause, but when i got onto the top a little while later no one did anything. At the time i was very salty
Bro, people in my class clipping down to red like how come I stayed on purple, but never got clipped up to purple💀☠️
I took that clip chart away. Behavior got worse without consequences. You can’t stop and have a long talk every time.
I'm In The Blue Zone 💙 😳 Because You Wouldn't talk about it.
When I Was In 2nd Grade We Had "Clips" If You Atleast Rolled Your Eyes Or " Talked Back" That Would = A Clip Change Our Colors Were "Outstanding Pink "Great Job Purple" Good Day Blue" "Ready To Learn Green" "Stop And Think Yellow" "Teachers Choice Orange" "Parent Contact Red" Lowest I Have Got Is Purple. EVERYBODY PROBALY BAD CHQNGED A CLIP AND HATED THIS.BYE
I'm In The YELLOW ZONE Because I'm Annoyed About This.
Why do You hate behavior charts charts