I've always just washed my pots at camp and kind of enjoyed the patina(wife says dirt) but you demonstrated this so easy and effective that I will try it. Good one.
Great idea for a video. I usually don't even bother anymore because if I get it clean then it bothers me to use it again, I know its strange but that is how I'm wired. I've built cloth covers out of old blue jeans to keep them in so they don't get other things in my pack black. I've never heard of the black build up being a thermal insulator, I just thought black absorbs heat better then silver so I've left it black. Now I've got to go clean my gear, should be fun after 15 years of build up on some of them :-) Enjoyed the video as always.....All the best. Charlie
What he said is right. Carbon stops heat transfer. If you want something to be heat resistant then you add carbon to it. A layer of carbon acts like an insulation blanket. You need many more kilojoules of heat to heat up a black pot compared to a clean pot.
I believe you, I guess I was thinking along the lines of char cloth which is carbon, takes a spark where as non charred cloth will usually not take a spark. Also when using solar ignition blackened fuels will burn where as non blackened fuels reflect. My understanding was the blackened surface of charcoal or charred cloth will absorb the heat.
When you get this sticky black layer from campfires burning spruce / pine an those types, you will get a layer that insulate a bit. I did not clean my kettle for years, and when I finally did, it was noticeable how much faster it boild up.
I really do like your method of cleaning here and I know you are right about the build up of soot not helping anything. Problem is I am lazy and don't like scrubbing pots and thought I had a good justification for leaving them black. Now you come along and ruin my excuse. Guess who will be scrubbing his pots now.....:-) Thanks for sharing, I realy do enjoy your channel. All the best......Charlie
Nice info Odd. The trick I learned in Boy Scouts was to rub soap suds on the pot before cooking with it. Of course you have to think ahead for this to work ( and it does work). I'll have to try out your method for the times I don't prep my cook pot. Thanks for there video and take care.
good tips!! I clean mine as well after each trip. I don't clean them while on the trail camping but usually clean them when I get home. I use comet cleaner with a steel scrubbing pad, and Scotch-Brite Heavy Duty Scrub Sponge. Dirty pots are hard to put away in the closet.
I like to have the outside of my gear black, but that doesn't mean I don't clean it. The thing is, you have loose soot that easily comes off, and you have the hard stuff. Including ferrous oxide (iron II oxide) with iron pots, which helps protect against rust. The hard part doesn't end up in your food either, as it doesn't easily come off. So I usually just wipe it off with a paper towel and give it a wash with normal, mild dish soap. If it doesn't come off with that, it's part of the pot, and that's okay to me.
And I can add: A thin layer of soot may add a bit of insulation, but the black colour should also keep more of the heat from the fire. Blank surfaces are reflective.
In the USA you can get "Bar Keeper's Friend Cooktop Cleaner" which will clean your brass Trangia like gold... and probably the rest of your gear like silver!
Thanks Odd! I usually just use ”Svinto”, its metalfibers with detergent in it. But also i haven´t thought of the fact with the time aspect, that it would take longer to get a boil. Now i know!
I hope you can give a UA-cam- tip to a newbie... how do I see who’s givven a thumb up or a thumb down on my comments? And why don’t I get a kind of notification when someone has reacted to one of my comments?
@@ladybug4762 You cant se who have given thumbs. A comment should create a notice to you. But if someone comment on a others comment, it doesnt, because that comment is given to the person behind the first one.
You should get a notification if someone likes you comments. At least it used to be. Check you settings. UA-cam changes all the time so I'm not sure how it is right now. At least if someone press the heart symbol, you will get a notification
not to be stupid but does that work with American dishwasher detergent also? you can also clean them by coating them in regular cheap dish detergent before putting them on a wood fire, then using newspaper and beer to wash it off later!
Nice tip, thanks! forresten, do you have a recommendation for a pouch for some essential gear (EDC) that can be purchased in Norway? Something like Maxpedition range? Thanks and keep up the good work!
This is not bad! But what if you have no access to a sink and dishwasher tablets, for instance if your out for a long period. Thanks for showing this video.
A rust remover block cleans a pot up just as well as any sink will, though it will take longer to cut through the soot micron by micron. The advantage to rust remover blocks though is that they don't scratch the surface unlike harder scrubbers.
Det er ikke tillatt med åpen ild i skogmark mellom 15 april og 15. september som en hovedregel. Lokale myndigheter kan endre på disse reglene. Feks på vestlandet som Jæren kan ha bar og tørr vinter med stor skogbrannfare selv i januar. Andre steder er det så bløtt at de tillater at du fyrer opp et bål i skogmark midt på sommeren. Men, jeg bruker fornuft fremfor å følge loven etter punkt og prikke. Det kan være tider det er lov å fyre bål i skogen, men jeg føler at der litt risikabelt, da gjør jeg det ikke. Det kan være tider det ikke er lov, men jeg ser ingen fare med det, da fyrer jeg bål. Egentlig sier loven "åpen ild", det vil si en hver form for primus, kokeapparat eller andre ting med åpen flamme. Men, bruk sunn fornuft så går det bra.
What I feel is not cool is to use aluminum. After a while they get pitted and oxidized. Really get a alzheimers vibe. Unfortunately I havn't found any good alternative yet. The shape and the handle on the Trangia coffe kettle is great but the material is not.
This is a little off-topic, but I'm wondering what a Norwegian thinks about the Norwegian Mountain Camp Kettles? I haven't seen them in any of your videos. Ever used one?
I have a better an quicker result with the way I do it. I spray the product used to clean the fire window, but only on the outsides. It takes only a few seconds and comes like new. Very useful especially for the Kelly Kettle.Try it.
Good tip. But be sure to wash it very clean on the inside after that treatment. The stuff you put on fire place windows is very agressive and poisoness.
Yes, I close the Kettle before. In a few days I’ll start my bicycle tour from France to the North Cape, are you living in the north of Norway? To go and back I find it will take me at least 5 months.
To avoid getting sticky black soot on your cleaning pads or brushes (I have a brush with black sooty tips) you can use crinkled-up aluminum foil for scrubbing. I think it works pretty well. Then you can throw it away when you're finished! Soot-coated cleaning brushes are not cool, they're stupid!
Why do you think it is that pots/pans in a restaurant kitchen are black on the outside when the chef could have his staff clean them? It is because the chef wants them to be black because (the opposite of what you said) the black pan will absorb heat instead of reflecting it, making the pan more efficient. If you like shiny pots, that is your business but don't try to tell us that it is a good idea for cooking.
I`m affraid there is some misunderstanding about that. The black layer is mostly carbon, that will insulate. To clean pots in a restaurant kitchen shiny every time will take to much time. (I asked a chef ;) ). Absorbing heat it will do better if you think of sunshine or other radiation. But a clean pot will not reflect the heat hanging in the flames of a fireplace.
Soot/carbon has better thermal conductivity than metals. Look it up. I think the way it could slow down heat removal from inside of engine cylinder is the black body radiation - in the same way the pot is radiating energy from the black sides. Soot at the bottom is good IMO
Do you know what they use for smelting metals in? Carbon Crucibles. In order to keep the metal molten and not cool off too quick, do you reckon they'd want to make the crucibles out of highly thermally conductive material? Probably not. Also, by adding a layer of anything on top of the metal, you're creating a thermal barrier which is always slower than just applying the heat directly to the surface. The reason some cookware have aluminium inserts/bottoms is to balance the heat across the entire bottom of the cooking vessel and to store heat, so it's not as violent as putting a thin stainless steel pot or pan straight on the burner/hob. Soot has nothing beneficial to bring to this party.
no, no, no, never do this. All dishwasher detergents are soda-based: soda damages the coating of anodized aluminium pots: it cleans them well but they won't be safe for cooking purposes.
I've always just washed my pots at camp and kind of enjoyed the patina(wife says dirt) but you demonstrated this so easy and effective that I will try it. Good one.
Great idea for a video. I usually don't even bother anymore because if I get it clean then it bothers me to use it again, I know its strange but that is how I'm wired. I've built cloth covers out of old blue jeans to keep them in so they don't get other things in my pack black. I've never heard of the black build up being a thermal insulator, I just thought black absorbs heat better then silver so I've left it black. Now I've got to go clean my gear, should be fun after 15 years of build up on some of them :-) Enjoyed the video as always.....All the best. Charlie
What he said is right. Carbon stops heat transfer.
If you want something to be heat resistant then you add carbon to it. A layer of carbon acts like an insulation blanket. You need many more kilojoules of heat to heat up a black pot compared to a clean pot.
I believe you, I guess I was thinking along the lines of char cloth which is carbon, takes a spark where as non charred cloth will usually not take a spark. Also when using solar ignition blackened fuels will burn where as non blackened fuels reflect. My understanding was the blackened surface of charcoal or charred cloth will absorb the heat.
When you get this sticky black layer from campfires burning spruce / pine an those types, you will get a layer that insulate a bit. I did not clean my kettle for years, and when I finally did, it was noticeable how much faster it boild up.
I really do like your method of cleaning here and I know you are right about the build up of soot not helping anything. Problem is I am lazy and don't like scrubbing pots and thought I had a good justification for leaving them black. Now you come along and ruin my excuse. Guess who will be scrubbing his pots now.....:-) Thanks for sharing, I realy do enjoy your channel. All the best......Charlie
Nice info Odd.
The trick I learned in Boy Scouts was to rub soap suds on the pot before cooking with it. Of course you have to think ahead for this to work ( and it does work). I'll have to try out your method for the times I don't prep my cook pot.
Thanks for there video and take care.
Good tip!
good tips!! I clean mine as well after each trip. I don't clean them while on the trail camping but usually clean them when I get home. I use comet cleaner with a steel scrubbing pad, and Scotch-Brite Heavy Duty Scrub Sponge. Dirty pots are hard to put away in the closet.
Nice! I've been using a oven cleaner spray for the serious burned pots. Works great as well.
That worked well Odd, I must admit my pots are as black as the "ace of spades" but that solution worked well. I will give it a try:)
It works well Sandy. You can let them sit over night.
I like to have the outside of my gear black, but that doesn't mean I don't clean it.
The thing is, you have loose soot that easily comes off, and you have the hard stuff. Including ferrous oxide (iron II oxide) with iron pots, which helps protect against rust.
The hard part doesn't end up in your food either, as it doesn't easily come off.
So I usually just wipe it off with a paper towel and give it a wash with normal, mild dish soap. If it doesn't come off with that, it's part of the pot, and that's okay to me.
And I can add: A thin layer of soot may add a bit of insulation, but the black colour should also keep more of the heat from the fire. Blank surfaces are reflective.
In the USA you can get "Bar Keeper's Friend Cooktop Cleaner" which will clean your brass Trangia like gold... and probably the rest of your gear like silver!
Good tip!
Thanks Odd! I usually just use ”Svinto”, its metalfibers with detergent in it. But also i haven´t thought of the fact with the time aspect, that it would take longer to get a boil. Now i know!
Great idea. Thank you for sharing. ATB. Nigel
I have found that toothpaste works well. Since its naturally abrasive it helps scrub the tarnish and soot off the pots as well.
I appreciate a man who likes his gear clean! 😊
Hahaha....
Haha? It is important to clean up the pots and pans! Always! I know a few who don’t think so.
I hope you can give a UA-cam- tip to a newbie... how do I see who’s givven a thumb up or a thumb down on my comments? And why don’t I get a kind of notification when someone has reacted to one of my comments?
@@ladybug4762 You cant se who have given thumbs. A comment should create a notice to you. But if someone comment on a others comment, it doesnt, because that comment is given to the person behind the first one.
You should get a notification if someone likes you comments. At least it used to be. Check you settings. UA-cam changes all the time so I'm not sure how it is right now. At least if someone press the heart symbol, you will get a notification
Jeez, it never occurred to me to soak those first in automatic dishwasher soap. The soot sure seemed to come off easy. I gotta try that. Thanks, Odd.
Sand in the creek always worked for me, nice idea
Often the solution for me to in the field.
Just sand and crushed pineapple will do the job for me.
@@nightfly4481 Wow thanks! I've always used sand and a tuna sandwich!
I always clean everything even my dismetable titanium tent stove..and dried it very good that very important before to put it away
Great tip. I have a pot I'll try it on. Thanks
Lol, it was me! Haha, I thank you for this!
Video Request:
Please do a video of Hard Anodized Aluminum Cookware over an open fire (flame).
Thanks for the awesome video.
Great tip, thanks.
Thank you for the helpful tip ...
Q: What kind of watch & compass is that?
Hi, Its a Silva 40. Not in production any more. I asked Silva to think about production again.
NorwegianBushcraft
Ok ... thank you.
Neat trick. Thanks.
not to be stupid but does that work with American dishwasher detergent also? you can also clean them by coating them in regular cheap dish detergent before putting them on a wood fire, then using newspaper and beer to wash it off later!
best channel on you tube bro
Nice tip, thanks!
forresten, do you have a recommendation for a pouch for some essential gear (EDC) that can be purchased in Norway? Something like Maxpedition range? Thanks and keep up the good work!
Nice tip.
Thanks
@norwegianBushcraft. That is a really cool baking pan where did you purchase that??
Thank you for the video💕
Steel / soap wool. Works both at home and in the field.
Citrus/orange spray cleaner work real well.
Good tip, quite expensive over here though.
Great cleaning tips, Odd, Thanks for sharing Be Well. ATB Ter God Bless
Thanks Terry
Tack så mycket
This is not bad! But what if you have no access to a sink and dishwasher tablets, for instance if your out for a long period. Thanks for showing this video.
When the pot get to bad, I scrub it with heather or fine river sand.
A rust remover block cleans a pot up just as well as any sink will, though it will take longer to cut through the soot micron by micron. The advantage to rust remover blocks though is that they don't scratch the surface unlike harder scrubbers.
Tusen tack, som jag har skrubbat
Hei
Kan du fortelle meg om den tenne bål regler i Norge, man kan ikke tenne bål i skogen? Eller vi kan tenne et litten bål? Eller...? Takk
Det er ikke tillatt med åpen ild i skogmark mellom 15 april og 15. september som en hovedregel. Lokale myndigheter kan endre på disse reglene. Feks på vestlandet som Jæren kan ha bar og tørr vinter med stor skogbrannfare selv i januar. Andre steder er det så bløtt at de tillater at du fyrer opp et bål i skogmark midt på sommeren. Men, jeg bruker fornuft fremfor å følge loven etter punkt og prikke. Det kan være tider det er lov å fyre bål i skogen, men jeg føler at der litt risikabelt, da gjør jeg det ikke. Det kan være tider det ikke er lov, men jeg ser ingen fare med det, da fyrer jeg bål.
Egentlig sier loven "åpen ild", det vil si en hver form for primus, kokeapparat eller andre ting med åpen flamme. Men, bruk sunn fornuft så går det bra.
NorwegianBushcraft ok, tusen takk for hjelpen
Lag en video på norsk også😊
What I feel is not cool is to use aluminum. After a while they get pitted and oxidized. Really get a alzheimers vibe. Unfortunately I havn't found any good alternative yet. The shape and the handle on the Trangia coffe kettle is great but the material is not.
Dirty equipment looks like you do not care enough to keep it up.
Good tip /atb.Jonas
Thanks
This is a little off-topic, but I'm wondering what a Norwegian thinks about the Norwegian Mountain Camp Kettles? I haven't seen them in any of your videos. Ever used one?
I have a better an quicker result with the way I do it. I spray the product used to clean the fire window, but only on the outsides. It takes only a few seconds and comes like new. Very useful especially for the Kelly Kettle.Try it.
Good tip. But be sure to wash it very clean on the inside after that treatment. The stuff you put on fire place windows is very agressive and poisoness.
Yes, I close the Kettle before. In a few days I’ll start my bicycle tour from France to the North Cape, are you living in the north of Norway? To go and back I find it will take me at least 5 months.
Wow! That is quite a journey! I live about 120km North of Oslo.
I wish you all the best for the trip! :)
Gotta love the English subtitles Easter eggs in this one!
USE SAND RIVER BEST SCRUBBING METHOD IF YOU FORGOT SOAP !
To avoid getting sticky black soot on your cleaning pads or brushes (I have a brush with black sooty tips) you can use crinkled-up aluminum foil for scrubbing. I think it works pretty well. Then you can throw it away when you're finished! Soot-coated cleaning brushes are not cool, they're stupid!
Why do you think it is that pots/pans in a restaurant kitchen are black on the outside when the chef could have his staff clean them? It is because the chef wants them to be black because (the opposite of what you said) the black pan will absorb heat instead of reflecting it, making the pan more efficient. If you like shiny pots, that is your business but don't try to tell us that it is a good idea for cooking.
I`m affraid there is some misunderstanding about that. The black layer is mostly carbon, that will insulate. To clean pots in a restaurant kitchen shiny every time will take to much time. (I asked a chef ;) ). Absorbing heat it will do better if you think of sunshine or other radiation. But a clean pot will not reflect the heat hanging in the flames of a fireplace.
Soot/carbon has better thermal conductivity than metals. Look it up. I think the way it could slow down heat removal from inside of engine cylinder is the black body radiation - in the same way the pot is radiating energy from the black sides. Soot at the bottom is good IMO
Do you know what they use for smelting metals in? Carbon Crucibles.
In order to keep the metal molten and not cool off too quick, do you reckon they'd want to make the crucibles out of highly thermally conductive material? Probably not.
Also, by adding a layer of anything on top of the metal, you're creating a thermal barrier which is always slower than just applying the heat directly to the surface.
The reason some cookware have aluminium inserts/bottoms is to balance the heat across the entire bottom of the cooking vessel and to store heat, so it's not as violent as putting a thin stainless steel pot or pan straight on the burner/hob.
Soot has nothing beneficial to bring to this party.
"It's not cool. It's just stupid" :))
show fucking respect ok??????? respekt channel and us!!!
SoZo I was quoting him...
ohh shit i am sorry...
SoZo No worries.
hahaha
endelig en lett måte å vaske mine kasseroler
Did you ever try ash from your fireplace to clean your pots instead using tons of detergent destroying the environment?
I have tried that in the field, did not work very well. It worked, but ended up with me on the river bed scrubbing the pot with sand.
NorwegianBushcraft
and did you use water with the ash? 😎
Ash mixed with water is a superalkaline detergent. So I can't believe that it didn't work!
Detergent is alkaline too... Don't see how it's any worse than ash.
Just use a magic eraser.
cool
no, no, no, never do this. All dishwasher detergents are soda-based: soda damages the coating of anodized aluminium pots: it cleans them well but they won't be safe for cooking purposes.
silver reflekteras heat isent it better ven its black
This is WRONG and will RUIN your gear