I tried towing 11,000 pounds in freezing weather... My EV Truck Lied!

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  • @JerryRigEverything
    @JerryRigEverything  Рік тому +354

    Rivian has now released an over the air software update that *FIXES* the range calculation error I was having while Towing. Thank you Rivian! I also forgot to add the 1000lbs of tongue weight to the total trailer weight. Which means we were actually towing 11,000lbs in this video.

    • @HalfAssHomestead
      @HalfAssHomestead Рік тому +29

      My only question is WTF would anyone spend nearly $100k for an electric truck with such low mileage, when you can get a brand new fossil fuel one for less than half the cost, and has over 3 times the range? Your truck costs more than my house, which also runs on electric at a cost of over $1,000.00 per month. You do know that you aren't saving the environment right? That electricity isn't coming from the sun. And when it's time to change the batteries, you're going to pay half the cost of he vehicle again, and load the waste into a non-recyclable environment known as a waste field. The same place out dated solar panels go, that can never be re-used, and never deteriorate, or biodegrade much like the plastics in your composter.

    • @JerryRigEverything
      @JerryRigEverything  Рік тому +160

      @@HalfAssHomestead I do charge directly from the sun, and lithium batteries *are* 95% recyclable. You need to update your talking points. Yeah the price is high - but the rest of that you said is false. To each their own - just don't lie about stuff.

    • @9a3eedi
      @9a3eedi Рік тому +21

      @@HalfAssHomestead I don't care about the environment much, but I find the rivian to be a very interesting offroader because of its electric motors. You can get really precise yet powerful torque control for each wheel that any fossil fuel car simply can't match.
      As for mileage, it might be lower, but because you can charge it at home you can always have a full charge, so it doesn't really matter. For long road trips, you'd most likely need to take a 30 minute break either way (for bathroom, food, stretching legs), might as well do it in a fast charger station.

    • @jamesprather3136
      @jamesprather3136 Рік тому +11

      @@JerryRigEverything I agree to each their own, as economical as it is to charge, we can’t afford one, unless it’s legal and someone can make my avenger an ev but also I wanna wait until electric vehicles are more practical and built better, I’ve known people who have had issues with different electric vehicles, but I’m waiting for most issues to be resolved before I get one,

    • @jamesprather3136
      @jamesprather3136 Рік тому +2

      And I meant we as my fiancé and I lol

  • @northwestlife_9
    @northwestlife_9 Рік тому +7614

    Based on 40 years of experience watching Microsoft file transfer estimated times, I'm convinced Rivian purchased the towing algorithm from Microsoft.

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq Рік тому +190

      lol. so true :D the creator of that file transfer window btw is on youtube and talked about it in a video why its so hard to make a qualified calculation of the transfter timers :) daves garage

    • @alunesh12345
      @alunesh12345 Рік тому +53

      @@AndrewTSq Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. ”(Romans 10:9-10)❤️

    • @andresv.8880
      @andresv.8880 Рік тому +192

      @@alunesh12345 Goku is better

    • @KermitOfWar
      @KermitOfWar Рік тому +118

      @@alunesh12345
      Believe in science today. Jesus died 2,000 years ago, for having orgies with Roman soldiers. He died flaccid and nailed to wood, ironic...
      (Romans 10:8-10) ❤

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq Рік тому +17

      @@alunesh12345 thanks. I am already a child of Jesus.

  • @TimeBucks
    @TimeBucks Рік тому +678

    Thank you for also using km and kg

    • @anusreeshil4707
      @anusreeshil4707 Рік тому +2

      Hi

    • @ugetridofit
      @ugetridofit Рік тому +11

      It's sad that youtube channels have to do that just to please everyone because they are lazy to look up the conversion.

    • @tacticalidiot175
      @tacticalidiot175 Рік тому +9

      @@ugetridofit way too true, they don't do it overseas to help us. Double standards

    • @surochondro4830
      @surochondro4830 Рік тому

      Wow

    • @marcopardo722
      @marcopardo722 Рік тому

      Sofa

  • @jamesflake6601
    @jamesflake6601 Рік тому +301

    I'm sure glad there are people like you to buy these ev's for me and demonstrate how much I shouldn't buy one. Thanks.

    • @thomasdaum1927
      @thomasdaum1927 Рік тому +46

      Exactly !…….. My F 150 with a 36 gallon tank goes 700 miles then 4 minutes to fill up and go another 700 miles ! He said he had to charge for 45 minutes to get to a more powerful charger then charge again ??? Are you kidding me ?…….

    • @paulsandvig6961
      @paulsandvig6961 Рік тому +17

      @@thomasdaum1927for real!! Like this dude is still trying to charge his truck to get home.. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @muskiefishing9219
      @muskiefishing9219 Рік тому +30

      I'm with you on that, they can have their EVs . Just leave me out of it. Not interested.

    • @nunyabiznes4471
      @nunyabiznes4471 Рік тому +3

      @@thomasdaum1927EV’s are garbage. I appreciate videos like this that solidify my antipathy for them.

    • @xiaoka
      @xiaoka 11 місяців тому +9

      @@muskiefishing9219don’t worry grandpa, you won’t need to buy an EV in 2040.

  • @mshatiproductions
    @mshatiproductions Рік тому +1079

    This guy is even cooler in person. Saw him today at CES while he was on the phone, I call out Zach! Not only he looks and waves, he hung up the phone and came over to chat, offered to take a picture and we parted ways. What a human 🎉
    Great meeting Zach!
    Wisam

    • @azerbtur
      @azerbtur Рік тому +11

      Wow.

    • @mosconi0359
      @mosconi0359 Рік тому +38

      Yeah, they don't make 'em any better than this young man. Doesn't hurt that he's got that radio announcer voice either. Salt of the earth kinda guy. World needs about a billion more dudes like him if we're gonna keep on keepin' on.

    • @Choink2558
      @Choink2558 Рік тому +17

      You should've waited until he got done with his phone call. That was pretty rude

    • @437765513
      @437765513 Рік тому +3

      Love Zach he's good people

    • @gregsimpson621
      @gregsimpson621 Рік тому +2

      He's really like that! No matter how much he has on his plate, he takes time for anyone!

  • @JeffreyBritto
    @JeffreyBritto Рік тому +967

    On the way back after picking up the Hummer maybe you can try displaying the battery percentage instead of mile estimations? I imagine that's more accurate and it would be interesting to see how it compares to the mile estimations.

    • @alunesh12345
      @alunesh12345 Рік тому +20

      Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. ”(Romans 10:9-10)❤️😌

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Рік тому +11

      Or maybe MJ remaining rather than a percentage. MJ is the standard unit and equal to megawatt-seconds. So 1 kWh = 3600 kWs= 3.6 MJ.

    • @lesstevens2370
      @lesstevens2370 Рік тому +59

      @@OLBastholm I didn't think the church had bots lol

    • @NanoMine
      @NanoMine Рік тому +6

      @@johndododoe1411 MJ is Mega Joules.

    • @beforebefore
      @beforebefore Рік тому +7

      So true... I've switched over to paying a lot more attention to my battery SOC meter - instead of the range GoM (BMW i3 BEV)

  • @Gold63Beast
    @Gold63Beast Рік тому +593

    I like this video on so many levels. A New EV Rivian Truck towing a old body new EV system Hummer!!! Who in the world would have thought this would happen. What a time to be alive.

    • @sals4767
      @sals4767 Рік тому +9

      Ikr? The other day I was thinking that these days one charges their phone, car and cigarettes (Iqos). What's next? And who thought that we would be living in a world like this lol

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 Рік тому +1

      😂

    • @EikottXD
      @EikottXD Рік тому +2

      Who would have thought this would happen could be said about every day of every person's life. Always something new.

    • @KieferNguyen
      @KieferNguyen Рік тому +4

      You know when cancer and old age is cured that's when its a good time to be alive. Having a truck take a charge is not so much.

    • @alunesh12345
      @alunesh12345 Рік тому +1

      @@sals4767 Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. ”(Romans 10:9-10)❤️

  • @Aaronf187
    @Aaronf187 Рік тому +191

    These EV towing videos prove over and over that we are not ready for real world, realistic towing.

    • @nathant7437
      @nathant7437 Рік тому +13

      And yet they made EV transportation trucks....
      Btw, it's not just a bad idea for towing, it's a bad idea period. Friend's daughter took 2 hours to charge her car, waiting in line in the middle of the night.

    • @mikeb1039
      @mikeb1039 Рік тому

      yep, and that must account for like .00001 % of the trips driven.

    • @LawrenceStagner
      @LawrenceStagner Рік тому +7

      ​@mikeb1039 And its politicians that think like you that just won't give it up is why we are in the mess that we are in. Ya, I know, you're willing to sit in freezing temperatures to charge your car for 2 hrs.

    • @joshmonus
      @joshmonus 11 місяців тому

      ​@@mikeb1039It accounts for the vast majority of idiots buying these EVs.

    • @mikeb1039
      @mikeb1039 11 місяців тому

      @@joshmonus what accounts for the vast majority of idiots buying ice vehicles?

  • @AdventuresonTour
    @AdventuresonTour Рік тому +653

    As an EV owner it's refreshing to see some straight up honest testing like this.

    • @fynkozari9271
      @fynkozari9271 Рік тому +22

      The lithium ion also a nightmare to put out. Sometimes EV catch fire due to hot temp. So it doesn't make sense for hot climate. EV carbon footprint also higher than normal gasoline cars. If the energy source is fossil fuel, then EV doesn't make sense, carbon emission. Countries in EU energy mostly renewable source.

    • @SM-jx7tn
      @SM-jx7tn Рік тому +22

      @@fynkozari9271EVs do just fine in hot climates. Most decent modern EVs have liquid cooled battery packs. They also catch on fire drastically less frequently than gas cars. Of course with a greener grid the EV is more carbon neutral, but even with a dirty grid the EV is cleaner than the gas car, it just takes an extra year or so of driving. Unfortunately you’re wrong across the board

    • @AdventuresonTour
      @AdventuresonTour Рік тому +14

      @@fynkozari9271 gas cars catch on fire about a 1000 times more offent than EVs based on reports from the US insurance industry. So you're fear is misplaced.

    • @fynkozari9271
      @fynkozari9271 Рік тому +3

      @@AdventuresonTour well if you have done your homework, EV accounting 1.4% of total cars on earth. Sources say 16.5 million EV. Now I'm not a genius, but if u sample 1.4% against the rest of that percentage, then cherry pick 100k, the higher percentage will always win. This is basic math. Pretty dumb comparison for sure.

    • @jakub.kantner
      @jakub.kantner Рік тому +4

      @Fyn Kozari well if Gas is 1000x more flammable and EV are 1.4% (which is slightly more than 1/100) then if we adjust at the same size we get that gas is still 10x more flammable

  • @ruurdoffringa
    @ruurdoffringa Рік тому +364

    In relation to your fluctuating mileage remaining, is there any possibility that it is including your current rate of regenerative braking in the calculations? If you're carrying that much weight downhill, and the calculations are based on your usage over the past 5 or 10 minutes, you may actually have that sort of a mileage if your entire trip continued downhill.

    • @stopgabsolution5457
      @stopgabsolution5457 Рік тому +69

      That is probably what is happening but it is bad design as it should differentiate between potential energy you have because your start is at a higher elevation then your destination and potential energy you just payed dearly for pulling your trailer up a hill.

    • @booradley5127
      @booradley5127 Рік тому +46

      There has to be a software bug component as well. I repeatedly showed 635 miles specifically.

    • @Minemac2
      @Minemac2 Рік тому +4

      I would asido think it could looks at maps and see there is not that much downhill available and cut it off at a certain point

    • @stopgabsolution5457
      @stopgabsolution5457 Рік тому +6

      @@Minemac2 that’s how A Better Route Planer calculates your expected consumption. Pretty sure Tesla is doing it as well.

    • @Minemac2
      @Minemac2 Рік тому +2

      @@stopgabsolution5457 I could see it being hard to implement if you are not using the GPS route planner and just driving as it would not be sure where you are driving and would still have to make guesses. Still seems to be a lot of room for improvement.

  • @TwoBitDaVinci
    @TwoBitDaVinci Рік тому +165

    Only Zack would think, two achilles' heels, cold weather and towing, and think I know I'll do both. It's why we love him!

  • @patriot5526
    @patriot5526 Рік тому +119

    I had to tow 15,000 lbs of hay last winter in my 3/4 ton ICE truck. The temperature was below zero and much of the trip was on hilly roads. To be fair to EV owners. I definitely lost some range. It was about a 20 mile loss over 100 miles. And to make things worse, I had to stand outside in sub zero temperatures for at least 3-4 minutes to fill the tank up. Oh the humanity!

    • @nathant7437
      @nathant7437 Рік тому +15

      Lol yep, a whole lot better than EVs. Glad a lot of us were smart enough to stick with good o' faithful ICE.

    • @dvader3263
      @dvader3263 Рік тому +12

      So you spend 6 hours a year filling up your ICE truck....outside.
      And you had to fill up the tank after only 100 miles.
      How much time do you spend doing brake jobs? EVs don't wear out brakes or rotors.
      How much time do you spend doing oil changes?
      EVs don't need oil changes, or transmission fluid changes, or engine air filters, spark plugs, catalytic converters, mufflers, particulate filters, DEF or stops at gas stations twice a week, every week for your entire life.
      You can charge up your EV a few times a week all year long in a garage. It takes 3 seconds to plug it in with no going outside in the cold.
      Do you make 200 mile round trips every day of the year? That's 73,000 miles per year.
      Most people who own trucks don't tow most of the time.
      Oh, the humanity.

    • @finnmccool22
      @finnmccool22 Рік тому

      ​@@dvader3263 I get almost 400 miles to the tank with my diesel truck pulling more than 10000 lbs. I don't have spark plugs. I know how to drive so the maintenance on the brakes and transmission aren't an issue. The oil changes are about 200 a year. I can go twice as far as your precious electric truck and when I stop to fuel up it takes 5 minutes and then I'm back on the road again going twice as far again as you can go all while you are still waiting for your truck to charge. I'm also sure you wasted time looking for a charging station. How much is your time worth there snowflake? Not much it would seem. Lastly, my truck has almost 700k miles on it. I guarantee you your little ev won't even come close especially if it has to work like my truck has. Even if yours did I guarantee your little batteries wouldn't and how much do they cost to replace genius?

    • @alanshaw4655
      @alanshaw4655 Рік тому +19

      @@dvader3263 you left out the part of the cost to replace the batteries !..lol.

    • @cardboardboxification
      @cardboardboxification Рік тому

      @@dvader3263they can use their EV truck to pick up tampons

  • @craigmerrill7072
    @craigmerrill7072 Рік тому +232

    I would be SUPER curious for a follow up video if you can talk to anyone at Rivian about what happened with the range showing 600+ miles

    • @michaell1603
      @michaell1603 Рік тому +18

      Ever had a fresh charge on your cell phone at 100% and you use it for a 20 minute phone call? The battery barely moves off 100% charge when you know that’s not accurate 😂. How about when your cell phone is at 20% battery so you stop using it. Then an hour later it’s at 10% or 5% and you didn’t even touch it.

    • @michaell1603
      @michaell1603 Рік тому +2

      @R.K.L not sure what magical battery technology you’ve been using ThE LaSt TeN YeArS oR So 🤡. Anyway, my analogy stands regardless, thanks.

    • @joshjlmgproductions3313
      @joshjlmgproductions3313 Рік тому +10

      @@michaell1603 Phone BMS modules operate very differently than EV range estimates. Phone battery percentages go by voltage and/or wattage, while almost always having 5 - 10% headroom at either end of the scale to adjust for situational tolerances.
      Let's say the battery is "rated" for 13.5W, but can actually go up to 14W when fully charged. That extra 0.5W is why your phone stays at 100%. The same thing happens at 0%, and that's usually to safely shut down the phone and keep the clock running when off.
      And again, this is to accommodate manufacturing tolerances. Some batteries might have a defect that only allows them to charge to 13.7W, for example. But by keeping that 13.5W rating, it guarantees that all batteries will function at least as well as expected.

    • @fitybux4664
      @fitybux4664 Рік тому +1

      @@joshjlmgproductions3313 I've never heard of a battery capacity rated in watts. That just doesn't make any sense.

    • @joshjlmgproductions3313
      @joshjlmgproductions3313 Рік тому +4

      @@fitybux4664 I used it as an example. The most common rating for batteries are in mAh, but they also need to follow the correct wattage as well. Watts and milliamp hours are independent of each other.

  • @dimitar4y
    @dimitar4y Рік тому +259

    holy shit that is an amazing hitch. It's so high tech. FINALLY WE HAVE INNOVATION IN HITCHES!

    • @weighsafe
      @weighsafe Рік тому +47

      We appreciate your feedback! Let us know if you have any questions regarding our trailer hitches!

    • @user-ph2jg8zx9m
      @user-ph2jg8zx9m Рік тому +5

      😂😂😂😆😂 I'm picking up on your sarcasm. Well done 😆😆

    • @Baronnax
      @Baronnax Рік тому +21

      @@weighsafe Don't pay any attention to this dude above me, it's always cool when someone adds much-needed functionality to everyday objects. Great job with the hitch.

    • @japleen5204
      @japleen5204 Рік тому +9

      @@Baronnax second this

    • @duongchuc1834
      @duongchuc1834 Рік тому

      ok

  • @Robert-ko6wr
    @Robert-ko6wr Рік тому +35

    You crack me up in every video! Hooks up the bungee chord. “That’s not going anywhere.” Your timing and flat deadpan delivery just enhances the humor of it all. You make me laugh out loud. Thanks!

    • @mastermusicman24
      @mastermusicman24 Рік тому

      Talking about cracks... y'll noticed the one on the windshield?

  • @kylebarnard4042
    @kylebarnard4042 Рік тому +150

    Crazy that he is better at calculating the distance left in the battery, then the car itself lol

    • @houseofdiesel
      @houseofdiesel Рік тому +1

      About isn't a calculation it's a guess

    • @RC-nq7mg
      @RC-nq7mg Рік тому +2

      ​@@houseofdiesel Vehicle range estimates done by the computer are a guess as well, even in petrol fueled vehicles.

    • @safeandeffectivelol
      @safeandeffectivelol 11 місяців тому +1

      @@houseofdiesel He can guess better than the vehicle and calculate

  • @sethmunoz3608
    @sethmunoz3608 Рік тому +178

    I think you proved a point about the charging infrastructure and that's not ready for people who tow trailers

    • @lkracker7
      @lkracker7 Рік тому +9

      It’s a very valid point that I haven’t seen brought up yet anywhere else

    • @sethmunoz3608
      @sethmunoz3608 Рік тому +2

      @@lkracker7 well I don't think anyone that's really giving it much thought.

    • @Skylancer727
      @Skylancer727 Рік тому +17

      I more just hate that EV chargers tend to require logging into an account and app to use instead of simply swiping a card or slapping an NFC chip. Likely many of their software issues would disappear instantly.

    • @thomgt4
      @thomgt4 Рік тому +26

      The cars that don't charge on EV spots are so annoying though, like EVs don't park in gas stations... I always call a towtruck for the fuckere

    • @DCecil21
      @DCecil21 Рік тому +5

      It's not ready for 10% of the population.

  • @WillProwse
    @WillProwse Рік тому +64

    Oh man that remaining mileage estimator was hilarious 😂 I'm actually impressed that you got that far! That is some serious towing. Oh man, non Tesla chargers are the worse. Love the video as always.

    • @blahorgaslisk7763
      @blahorgaslisk7763 Рік тому +2

      Wasn't there something in the news six months or so ago about Tesla opening up their chargers for non tesla EV? Or was that something that was going on in Europe? Don't have an EV and haven't really kept track of what's happening with Tesla or charging stations in general. But I have a feeling I heard something about this...

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 Рік тому +2

      @@blahorgaslisk7763 It was in the news, but with Q-Elon, you never know what's going to happen. One day he decides he's going to open his chargers to everyone, the next day he decides to offer $8 verifications on Twitter, the day after that he takes $8 verification away, the day after that he takes his chargers away too... Never know with that guy.

    • @negativenarwhals
      @negativenarwhals Рік тому +3

      @@blahorgaslisk7763 yeah only in Europe as a test run

    • @Skylancer727
      @Skylancer727 Рік тому

      They said they will, but only new stations. But it also sounds like that may not be entirely true anymore. With their new NACS port it sounds like they'll just claim it's openly accessible and say it's open, but not unless you actually use them.

  • @nateolmsted22
    @nateolmsted22 Рік тому +40

    *bungee cord* "That's not going anywhere" 🤣 I really enjoy and appreciate your sense of humor Zack. Always a good time

  • @joesilverbliss1721
    @joesilverbliss1721 Рік тому +19

    This is why I bought an ICE pickup to tow my 6000lb boat. I assume the batteries are relatively new. The biggest issue is finding a charging station where you can maneuver the long truck and trailer. I like the hitch. Thanks for the video

  • @PurgatoryPriest
    @PurgatoryPriest Рік тому +251

    I was educated & entertained from start to finish! And I'm sure Rivian will be checking your logs for that milage increase while under tow load. Get back to us on the outcome, please. Great video. 👍🏽

    • @alunesh12345
      @alunesh12345 Рік тому +5

      Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. ”(Romans 10:9-10)❤️😌

    • @_PatrickO
      @_PatrickO Рік тому +22

      @@alunesh12345 Jesus does not exist anymore than poseidon or beetlejuice.

    • @allmorrisvideos
      @allmorrisvideos Рік тому

      @@alunesh12345 random spew?

    • @Hubris2
      @Hubris2 Рік тому +3

      Yep - Jerry found a significant bug, and I expect they will be very interested in understanding how cold conditions plus tow mode are causing the incorrect range values.

    • @_PatrickO
      @_PatrickO Рік тому

      @@chriscross3924 lol, why post something that embarrasses you? Realty is not controversial. Grow up and quit pretending fiction is real.

  • @omarmmzn
    @omarmmzn Рік тому +272

    Zack eating that steamy burrito locked in his car with all the snow outside is the coziest moment I've seen in a UA-cam video.

    • @aarontimm
      @aarontimm Рік тому

      on fuckign god

    • @jstowe56
      @jstowe56 Рік тому +3

      Reminds me of the “vlog” scenes from “the martian”

    • @alext6933
      @alext6933 Рік тому +4

      Maybe cozy for him, the chewing sounds gave me a migraine

    • @kathleenpittman4530
      @kathleenpittman4530 Рік тому +1

      I'm a long time investor, withdraw my profit of over £ 56,000 during the covid 19 pandemic

    • @derekhobbs
      @derekhobbs Рік тому +1

      Same here, I will praise Mrs. Allison Parker over and over again because she has great skills, I started with $2000 and after 2week I received a returns of $6,000 then I continue with her ever since she has been delivering..

  • @rossallen738
    @rossallen738 Рік тому +116

    I wonder if the mileage was spiking up because the extra weight was putting a lot of amps into the battery when regenerating. The high amperage would cause the voltage to spike upwards leading it to have a higher voltage and possibly think it was at a high state of charge. Then it compared how many miles it had already traveled with little voltage drop and figured the remaining range to be high.

    • @Robert-cu9bm
      @Robert-cu9bm Рік тому +6

      They can only regen what the inverter can handle. The rest of the energy gets wasted.
      Rivian would know what it can do

    • @kimjong-un9738
      @kimjong-un9738 Рік тому

      pulling lots of current out of a battery does the opposite, it drops the voltage...

    • @rossallen738
      @rossallen738 Рік тому +2

      @@kimjong-un9738 That is correct. I was referring to the extra regeneration that's happening when he takes his foot off the pedal and the extra weight slows down, putting a lot of amps back into the batteries while slowing down.

    • @rossallen738
      @rossallen738 Рік тому +2

      @@Robert-cu9bm it was just a hypothesis. The Rivian obviously wasn't too sure what was going on since it was saying he had 600 miles of range.

    • @isaackvasager9957
      @isaackvasager9957 Рік тому +2

      @@Robert-cu9bm "Rivian would know what it can do " - Obviously they don't, because the range estimate was off by hundreds of percent.

  • @LandParkColby
    @LandParkColby Рік тому +28

    Nice video - this one (and many others too) convinced me that I am not ready for an EV - just bought another ICE F150. Honestly, I could not handle the range anxiety and the current lack of charging infrastructure (and the complete lack of respect for it too).

  • @KevinLyda
    @KevinLyda Рік тому +5

    Everything has a learning curve. I've been driving an EV for three years and the first few months were ropy with chargers. But I learned how they worked, what my car was telling me and how to plan. Just like I did with petrol cars. Last summer I drove from Galway, Ireland to Stockholm, Sweden and it was easy. Obviously not while towing, but I suspect after a few more goes you'll have worked out how to do it all way better.
    Always good to learn new things!

    • @noseboop4354
      @noseboop4354 Рік тому

      Gas is a lot simpler though, You have gas or diesel, then you have ordinary to supreme gas, and that's it. With EV you have mulitple charging standards, multiple charging rates, and wildly different prices for those charging rates.

  • @turbominor9859
    @turbominor9859 Рік тому +67

    Now, this is an EvHumvee monster and with EV hummer in stock but this is the OG and you never let us down with ur humor man! Have a good one!

    • @alunesh12345
      @alunesh12345 Рік тому +2

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  • @vigilante351
    @vigilante351 Рік тому +20

    Hopefully Rivian come back to you with some explanation or software update to resolve that extremely annoying issue! It's definitely a calculation you want working in an EV!

  • @JTBCOOL1
    @JTBCOOL1 Рік тому +2

    Wow I just wanted to say thank you for being such a nice person Zach. You are kind to yourself and others. God bless

  • @jacobg5122
    @jacobg5122 Рік тому +61

    Whenever you secure a vehicle to a trailer, you should try and tie to an unsprung point, ie something that doesn't move when the suspension compresses. Usually an axle tube is a good spot. That way your straps don't loosen up or fall off when you hit a bump and the body moves on the suspension. Definitely do it that way if you're using chains and binders since they don't have any stretch in them to take up that slack.

    • @SteedDigital1
      @SteedDigital1 Рік тому +2

      I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed.

    • @rdlangston13
      @rdlangston13 Рік тому +6

      Didn't he tie directly to the wheels as well as to the tow hooks? Pretty sure I saw some straps going through the wheels. Hummers have 4 wheel independent suspension so tying to the axles isn't really an option

    • @SLOCLMBR
      @SLOCLMBR Рік тому +1

      ​@TheLangstons DHNH yup, wheels/tires are good for straps. I go by what I heard from an old timer, soft stuff gets straps, metal gets chains

    • @bigvideoenergy
      @bigvideoenergy Рік тому +4

      I counted 15/16 straps. He'd be fine. It'd be purely because of the chassis of the hummer having alot of its weight cut out so its dampening levels change

    • @muddrmike
      @muddrmike Рік тому +2

      Weird.. I was taught the opposite. You want to tie down the vehicle from the body, and you strap it down until the suspension compresses so you don't get body roll on the vehicle that's being towed. ESPECIALLY if you are towing a truck.

  • @mastahc411
    @mastahc411 Рік тому +118

    I legit got angry with the a holes parked in the charging spots. You're a much calmer person than me.

    • @DanielHenriqueDHDDS
      @DanielHenriqueDHDDS Рік тому +21

      that take was the 15th attempt without swear-word the charger driver

    • @rmo9808
      @rmo9808 Рік тому +3

      It'll become one of those things that people can be fined for. There's no way that local state or federal governments will pass up a way to monetize that. My bet is you'll need a window sticker of some sort.

    • @Extralarse
      @Extralarse Рік тому +9

      @@rmo9808 a window sticker? How about just charging your car...

    • @rmo9808
      @rmo9808 Рік тому +1

      @@Extralarse Governments love monetizing things just having your car plugged in won't be good enough at some point. It'll probably be to cover costs for enforcement or strain on the grid.

    • @AlldaylongRock
      @AlldaylongRock Рік тому

      Will get worse as normal parking spots are taken up by EV charging points.. Will EVing (parking an EV in a normal parking spot, or on a charger without plugging in because you don't need to?) become a problem too?

  • @nedj10
    @nedj10 Рік тому +113

    Are you going to repair your windshield or have a professional do it? Love Campingworld's setup. A dodge charger...blocking a charger...classic.

    • @r3pwn-dev
      @r3pwn-dev Рік тому +19

      I wonder if there was a sign there that said "For Charger Use Only"...

    • @LolSho0orTs
      @LolSho0orTs Рік тому +1

      @@r3pwn-dev lol

    • @yk-lt5bs
      @yk-lt5bs Рік тому +7

      He's doing it at rivian of course, but seems like they're still having major issues on the service front. he talked about the windshield months ago.

    • @StuffTested
      @StuffTested Рік тому +2

      Need safelite to sponsor a video for him.

  • @johnguilfoyle3073
    @johnguilfoyle3073 Рік тому +2

    "That's not going anywhere!" with the Bungee Cord was CLASSIC!

  • @jordi95
    @jordi95 Рік тому +209

    It Would be interesting to see the difference that towing an aerodynamic trailer does, since towing the hummer is like having a sail working against you

    • @Dannyar10
      @Dannyar10 Рік тому +7

      I can get 130-135 miles towing our 26ft 6k pound camper with our R1T

    • @nicnordic6143
      @nicnordic6143 Рік тому +20

      Good question, its not about the weight, 80% is about aerodynamics...

    • @martylawson1638
      @martylawson1638 Рік тому

      This is my question too. Electrics are far more sensitive to total energy consumption than pure weight.

    • @alunesh12345
      @alunesh12345 Рік тому +3

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    • @JeyAnirudhJekka
      @JeyAnirudhJekka Рік тому +3

      What's the use though? In real life situations you'll probably never have anything aerodynic to tow around.

  • @DesignerMichaelMoyson
    @DesignerMichaelMoyson Рік тому +79

    Thank you for also using km and kg!✨️🙌

  • @EngineAdventures
    @EngineAdventures Рік тому +10

    The scale said 9,300 pounds, was that while it was connected to the tow vehicle? If so then you should have added the tongue weight in as well bringing you to 10,050 ish guessing from the 750 weigh safe scale measurement. Then you added 1,000 lbs of sheet metal, bringing your total trailer weight to about 11,000ish lbs. Fun test!

    • @JerryRigEverything
      @JerryRigEverything  Рік тому +7

      I assumed since it was double axle most weight would be on the scale. But you're right. Some weight would have been on my hitch. Nice catch.

    • @EngineAdventures
      @EngineAdventures Рік тому +5

      @@JerryRigEverything no worries, just makes your test even heavier! I make towing equipment for a living so I'm a little picky about this stuff. Great content as always!

    • @ECEV
      @ECEV Рік тому +1

      You forgot that like all tow rating you can only tow the maximum amount with a weight distribution hitch.

    • @EngineAdventures
      @EngineAdventures Рік тому

      @@ECEV I don't know the specifics on a Rivian, but for half ton trucks/SUVs and smaller this is true. For 3/4-ton and up, most manufacturers say it's recommended but not required, and to only do a max of 50% weight distribution.

  • @diegosworld
    @diegosworld Рік тому +5

    Bungee cords!! Not going anywhere 😅😂

  • @zyrppa
    @zyrppa Рік тому +10

    10:25 Just leave it behind them to block everyone and use some extra long cable :D

  • @ujaku_
    @ujaku_ Рік тому +51

    I'm just now realizing I might have seen you on the road last week! lol. Happy New Year!

  • @ScottHampshire
    @ScottHampshire Рік тому +65

    Rivian comms and software teams are sweating watching this video.

    • @terrywatts1060
      @terrywatts1060 Рік тому +3

      😅

    • @starguy9
      @starguy9 Рік тому +4

      No, they don't care. They know ev is a scam, and it is popular.

    • @jeebusk
      @jeebusk Рік тому

      Marketing yeah, engineers probably got instructions to do it that way from some exec with an MBA.

    • @ScottHampshire
      @ScottHampshire Рік тому +1

      @@starguy9 you must be fun at parties

  • @prairiepanda
    @prairiepanda Рік тому +22

    I'd like to see how it performs at -20°C or below. 1°C is a very warm winter day where I live lol

    • @sr20ser.
      @sr20ser. Рік тому +2

      I would assume it would take an hour minimum to just heat the battery, and then give up in 50 or so miles, towing, that is.

    • @secret5.
      @secret5. Рік тому +2

      We had a week of -30F here in Wyoming. My old Suzuki fired up every day, no block heater, no garage. I can't imagine an electric car handling this weather.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn Рік тому +3

      @@secret5.
      Drive a 2020 e-Golf in the arctic of Norway and we had -40 degrees at one point and my car drove just fine, obviously when you have a 70% reduction in range the best you can hope for is city driving and the charge network up here is pitiful.
      Considering charging electric cars is now same price as fuelling a diesel car in Europe and Norway, the only advice I have is to get a small electric car for city, but an used Diesel Volkswagen Passat for long range, had a 2014 Passat, got 1200km out of it on one tank during winter long range driving, good luck doing that in an electric car.

    • @AccountantByDay553
      @AccountantByDay553 Рік тому

      Same here. -30C here in Canada is a normal thing

    • @secret5.
      @secret5. Рік тому +1

      @@SMGJohn Did you have it in a heated garage or sitting outside?

  • @jimk8520
    @jimk8520 Рік тому +9

    That hitch is a marvelous idea!

  • @captainmarvel6
    @captainmarvel6 Рік тому +6

    I loved that Zack always includes the Unit Convertion in his videos like Miles to Km and F to Celcius etc etc etc 💯👍🏻

    • @spyrosbellos2522
      @spyrosbellos2522 Рік тому +2

      His name is Zack

    • @captainmarvel6
      @captainmarvel6 Рік тому +2

      @@spyrosbellos2522 My bad 😬
      I'll surely remember that Thank you so much 😊✌🏻

    • @ugetridofit
      @ugetridofit Рік тому

      Ya, its actually sad that he has to do the labor for the conversion because the viewers are yo lazy to do it themselves.

    • @theninjascientist689
      @theninjascientist689 Рік тому

      @@ugetridofit What are you so upset about? One person does it so that thousands don't have to

  • @OneExhaustedFather
    @OneExhaustedFather Рік тому

    Ok good sir, when you put the bungee on I said out loud "that's not going anywhere" only to hear it echo'd in my ear. Earned yourself a sub. Enjoyed the video as well Well done.

  • @RevansMinion
    @RevansMinion Рік тому +14

    I love the fact you didn't pull any punches. This is showing us exactly what it's like living with an EV and I'm happy about it.

    • @thetacomaboy
      @thetacomaboy Рік тому +1

      I mean, not exactly?... do most people normally tow 10k lbs hundreds of miles in freezing weather? I have had an EV for 7 years now, we finally got rid of our last gas machine two weeks ago, one Tesla and one Rivian. The Tesla is the road trip car, until the charging infrastructure for non-Teslas improves...

    • @Grzegorz_Grabowski
      @Grzegorz_Grabowski Рік тому

      @@thetacomaboy this is an truck though

    • @diceonamay
      @diceonamay Рік тому +1

      @@thetacomaboy you are assuming every single user is like you,m. That’s never how you are supposed to look at things. You already forced yourself to believe your narrative but you fail to see any other outside viewpoints.

    • @lutomson3496
      @lutomson3496 Рік тому

      And with no power here again with this storm worthless evs

  • @dimaisatree
    @dimaisatree Рік тому +5

    I did a similar tow last winter, but I towed a 26k trailer with a 2016 Ram 3500 truck. Went 1100+ miles to Texas with 2 stops.

  • @EmxBrandon
    @EmxBrandon Рік тому +40

    Honestly since you flicked and said that aint going nowhere im pretty sure that bungie had it! 😆👌

    • @RichardAmmo1
      @RichardAmmo1 Рік тому

      HaHaHaHa!! That was hilarious! I wouldn't have believed it, if it had been anybody else! Zach can do anything and make it work! LOL!!

  • @robertschaffer596
    @robertschaffer596 Рік тому +2

    LoL that's some epic level fastening of the hummer on that trailer. :D

  • @dangerrangerrob4664
    @dangerrangerrob4664 Рік тому +18

    people love your honestly with range and towing and of course the sick builds you do keep up the great work man we need more people like you

  • @brandonman2020
    @brandonman2020 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for showing it all unbiased Jerry. I wonder how much more the range is reduced when its -35 out

    • @MG-im8ku
      @MG-im8ku Рік тому +1

      I don't even think it'd show a range at that point lol Living in Canada, I know many people who say their Tesla's range goes to crap in the winter. I can only imagine how extreme cold (not just temps around freezing, but temps in a REAL Canadian winter) with 10,000lbs hitched up would cause the range to drop by a HUGE amount.

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 Рік тому

      Relatively little I'd guess. AFAIK the main range reduction in the cold is from running the heater. This will be insignificant compared to the range loss from pulling the non-aerodynamic trailer.

  • @superhawk20002
    @superhawk20002 Рік тому +133

    I would have walked into the Camping World store and talked to customer service. I bet they would ask (via intercom) for all non EV vehicles to be moved immediately out of EV spots.

    • @Roocketboy
      @Roocketboy Рік тому +51

      I'm sure they would all be running to move there cars NOT!! LOL

    • @MHWGamer
      @MHWGamer Рік тому +29

      @@Roocketboy can you not just call the cops and remove the car? at least where I live that can be done (depends a bit if the police is nice at that moment)

    • @youtubehandleofficial
      @youtubehandleofficial Рік тому +7

      @@MHWGamer doubtful in Utah

    • @JM-yx1lm
      @JM-yx1lm Рік тому +20

      @@MHWGamer how can a citizen call the cops on a vehicle parked in a private business parking lot? The owner of the business has to be that person

    • @Asakha1
      @Asakha1 Рік тому +9

      @@MHWGamer here in Montreal, the cops might show up, but they will just fine the car, not remove it...

  • @chrismccarley4674
    @chrismccarley4674 Рік тому

    Curious to know how long it took you to drive the 100 miles. With the multiple stops and charging. I would assume it’s still a game to find a fast charger that is not blocked and accessible for trailers. Not everyone can just drop the load and drive to another charging station.

  • @TwentySevenist
    @TwentySevenist Рік тому +18

    I'm guessing 75 miles? I have a Nissan leaf in Arizona... So two things I haven't had to deal with :)

  • @ZanethMedia
    @ZanethMedia Рік тому +54

    9:36 Jerry's humor is so perfectly dry I love it

    • @aardwolf21
      @aardwolf21 Рік тому

      His name is Zack, not Jerry, make your own mind up on the origins of Jerry rigged.

  • @thepubliceye
    @thepubliceye Рік тому +31

    I wonder that 15% weight was for a front-engine vehicle, where the Rivian is equal from and back.

    • @nSnowCrow
      @nSnowCrow Рік тому +3

      The R1T has only a load capacity of about 800kg to put 1000 pound on the towing adapter is very much. I would estimate a maximum load of 250-300 kg on towing hitch. If you put an adapter with so much slack inbetween, then you should not exceed 150kg.
      10% estimate is only for 1 axle models, else you want to maximise either the brake capacity of the trailer or your vehicles towing hitch load.

    • @jeebusk
      @jeebusk Рік тому +5

      WTF r u guys smok'n...

    • @danielh4995
      @danielh4995 Рік тому +6

      10-15% tongue weight is a typical target for standard bumper pull trailers. Can do more with pintle hitches but those aren't common for light duty stuff. Its more to do with load balance of the trailer and control ability of the tow vehicle rather that the configuration of the tow vehicle.

  • @nvgun40
    @nvgun40 Рік тому +1

    He explained the trailer weight. He explained the towing capacity of the Rivian. He showed us the tongue weight of the trailer. He talked about making sure the load is balanced. What he neglected was the Rivian's "payload". The tongue weight of any given trailer as it sits on the hitch of the tow vehicle counts AGAINST the tow vehicles available payload. Many people neglect this factor when towing trailers (especially RVs). The mistake is thinking, as long as the trailers weight is less than the tow vehicles towing capacity, all is well. It is very common to load the tow vehicle over its payload and still be under the tow capacity.

    • @arcfives_CT5555
      @arcfives_CT5555 4 місяці тому

      On top of this. If you look at the R1T manual, it says the truck can do 11,000 pounds but past 5,0000 miles the truck is supposed to use a weight distribution hitch. Towing 10,000 pounds on this standard hitch was unsafe.

  • @curtowen89
    @curtowen89 Рік тому +4

    Evs are perfect for stay at home moms. Or people with nothing to do. The acceleration part was very impressive.

  • @qwertylesh
    @qwertylesh Рік тому +4

    I've never seen anyone go into a sketchy driving situation with such curiosity and so nonchalantly, that was a thrilling video Zack!

  • @Barbasnoo
    @Barbasnoo Рік тому +14

    That hitch is AWESOME! Never heard of them before. Its going on my truck immediately!

  • @garypio2241
    @garypio2241 Рік тому

    How would regeneration affect a vehicle on ice , snow ,generally slippery roads when traction slowing the vehicle to regen is diminished ?

  • @Ris-v4w
    @Ris-v4w Рік тому +10

    13$ worth of electricity = ? how many kw/h ? (sorry if it was mentioned already)

    • @shadyweaver
      @shadyweaver Рік тому +5

      Around 131, Utah has the same electricity/kWh prices as most of Europe did two years ago at 9.93c/kWh.

    • @daftbence
      @daftbence Рік тому +1

      @@shadyweaver Bojler eladó

    • @fl1xmeister
      @fl1xmeister Рік тому +1

      @@daftbence mennyiért?

    • @daftbence
      @daftbence Рік тому

      @@fl1xmeister Egy hízóért odaadom

    • @fl1xmeister
      @fl1xmeister Рік тому

      @@daftbence gábor fizet :)

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz Рік тому +4

    I think that shows there regen calculations are not working properly when a trailer is hitched up, hopefully that can be solved with a software update

  • @R0cinante
    @R0cinante Рік тому +14

    1:23 You almost got me :D

  • @wesley1983
    @wesley1983 Рік тому

    3:22 but what is the payload rating of the truck? The tongue weight you add is also considered payload not towing.

  • @samleen
    @samleen Рік тому +39

    That’s like the mpg dial on my friends 325i. It bounces from 60 mpg down to 1 depending on the speed

    • @Curt-0001
      @Curt-0001 Рік тому +4

      My moms '94 Dodge Neon did the same. Car died a few months later, no thanks to my mother doing an oil change....never. edit: just realized you said mpg not mph

    • @SpeedyJuiceMan
      @SpeedyJuiceMan Рік тому +17

      It's probably showing the instant mpg of the car rather the average.

    • @iambenmitchell
      @iambenmitchell Рік тому +3

      BMWs with an MPG dial show the MPG live, you can get the average MPG on the screen but the dial is your live MPG.
      It’s a pretty cool gimmick I like in my X1, BMW have had this for many decades. It’s interesting watching it go between 60 and 70 depending on the road conditions, going up a hill etc lol

    • @anishpatel6014
      @anishpatel6014 Рік тому

      Most cars have that, it's not unique, it's for real time mpg data

    • @professionalelectronics3158
      @professionalelectronics3158 Рік тому

      My impreza show average and instant MPG so it's probably instant for your friend's bimmer. I have seen my Impreza report 99+ mpg in the past but that's for coasting or rolling downhill.
      I also have "remaining miles" estimate which is probably a tiny bit optimistic, but nothing like this Rivian SNAFU. It'll predict about 420+mi on a full tank, when I've rolled into the gas station at 330 miles and it estimates

  • @kevinkc3onohelijeepworld953
    @kevinkc3onohelijeepworld953 Рік тому +5

    Driving out a load on motor which makes heat and warm the lithium ion cells and bringing up the standing voltage but your batteries management may vary 😊

  • @soerenras111
    @soerenras111 Рік тому +33

    Don’t ever talk about how many miles you have left in the battery, alway talk about percentage. When you know how big the battery are, it’s way easier to calculate range you’re self , do to the car tells how much wh it consumes per mile/km

    • @dmandman9
      @dmandman9 Рік тому +5

      Exactly! It’s no different than with gasoline vehicles. The miles to empty is a rough estimate. But the actual fuel gauge is the most informative because we can see how fast it’s moving in any given situation.

  • @FullContactDrummer
    @FullContactDrummer Рік тому +1

    All kinds of Utah going on with the Weigh Safe hitch and Big Bubba's trailers. Looks like Utah County. Cool video.

  • @jaydunn904
    @jaydunn904 Рік тому +7

    I'd be super curious to see how EV's hold up where I live in Canada. We get pretty steady -20 to - 30 Celsius weather in the winter.

    • @brianwallis9125
      @brianwallis9125 Рік тому

      Would like to see that test drive up the coquihalla highway this time of year. Hope to Kamloops

  • @philip_fletcher
    @philip_fletcher Рік тому +17

    I believe there are companies proposing battery powered caravans (ie both heat/cooking and an aditional trailer motor) - this may be an option on future trailer hires.

    • @Shiftheads
      @Shiftheads Рік тому

      Imagine if they also put a small electric motor on the axle that you can use to help towing and also to help accelerate from a stop. Wouldn't even need trailer brakes for the most part

    • @dubious6718
      @dubious6718 Рік тому

      @@Shiftheads Electric motor on trailer is a bad idea.

    • @Shiftheads
      @Shiftheads Рік тому +2

      @@dubious6718 great reasons you gave there for your argument.

    • @philip_fletcher
      @philip_fletcher Рік тому

      @@Shiftheads That's what I meant by the 'trailer motor' above - it would be a game changer for companies like uhaul - especially if it was autonomous.

    • @Shiftheads
      @Shiftheads Рік тому +1

      @@philip_fletcher yeah it wouldn't be hard. You just hook up to trailer wiring so it knows when you hit the brakes it would engage regen and could use an accelerometer for engaging power. With a rv or 5th wheel you could have a bigger battery pack that could be charged with solar or RV hookup at the campgrounds

  • @aeskellion
    @aeskellion Рік тому +10

    The cold weather is another huge factor to the low range estimates. I commute with my e-bike and I have about 3/4 of my original range in the winter

    • @w8stral
      @w8stral Рік тому

      This was not cold temps. 30F is not cold

    • @aeskellion
      @aeskellion Рік тому

      @@w8stral it's still below ideal operating range.

    • @w8stral
      @w8stral Рік тому

      Due to the pulled load and all that huge aero drag increase, not the temperatures. @@aeskellion

    • @aeskellion
      @aeskellion Рік тому

      @@w8stral never said it was the only factor, but one of them. the load and drag affect range, but cold weather also does. It always has. You can't deny that

  • @DurzoBlunts
    @DurzoBlunts Рік тому +1

    Zach: let's add some more weight to get that 10k for the zeroes in the title!
    Rivian: More weight!!! = More range!!!!

  • @scottthompson7009
    @scottthompson7009 Рік тому +8

    Thank you for including metric units when calculating the range. Have you done this test in summer? I’m really interested to know how much difference in range you would get.

  • @RodanQQ
    @RodanQQ Рік тому +10

    Nice. It spent more time charging than traveling. Sounds wonderful

    • @TinyRit
      @TinyRit Рік тому +4

      He wouldn't have spent that much time charging if all of the chargers at his first stop weren't blocked by ICE vehicles! Imagine how many heads would explode if EV's were blocking all of the gas pumps somewhere.

    • @tr4u5mp90
      @tr4u5mp90 Рік тому +3

      @@TinyRit It takes hours to charge an EV. Don't be naive.

    • @TinyRit
      @TinyRit Рік тому +4

      @@tr4u5mp90 I own an EV. I can charge up to 80% in about 20 minutes at a charging station like the one that was completely iced. I'm not naive. I've lived this.

    • @tr4u5mp90
      @tr4u5mp90 Рік тому

      @Rita From 70% to 80% maybe. What's the make and model of your EV so I can do my own research.

    • @tr4u5mp90
      @tr4u5mp90 Рік тому

      @Rita Who has that much time to be parked waiting for their vehicles to be charged? Most homes electric grid does not support 250kwh output. Do you actually believe that you are helping the environment? Have you seen the process to mine the cobalt , lithium that is needed for your batteries? Most of the cobalt comes from the Republic of the Congo did you know that? Have you seen how they extract the rare earth mineral using children and slave labor? What powers the powering stations where electric vehicles charge....fossil fuel does..lol pathetic

  • @Cobb
    @Cobb Рік тому +13

    That's still impressive. Back when I watch TFL truck, their towing tests were about 10k lbs and they usually got between 3-7 mpg. So worst case a 30 gallon tank at ~3.3 mpg would get 100 mile range but for over $100 of fuel.

    • @freedomliberty7611
      @freedomliberty7611 Рік тому

      He got free electricity. When all us suckers are forced into this abomination electricity will be throuhh the roof. With no green benefits

    • @deanmorris6679
      @deanmorris6679 Рік тому +4

      Those test were up the Ike gauntlet. 8 miles of uphill climbing. My diesel ram get about 12 pulling a camp trailer. So that's 360 miles of range and I don't have to wait hours to charge a battery!

  • @Internalview44
    @Internalview44 Рік тому +1

    The problem is with controller and charger controller not accepting charger voltage so as a safty measure it stops the flow of current and controller swithoff try different bms

  • @LK-pc4sq
    @LK-pc4sq Рік тому +4

    Jerry thanks for testing it!

  • @martin_chege
    @martin_chege Рік тому +6

    From Kenya 🇰🇪🇰🇪We love you Jerry rig everything 😍😍

    • @gregoryforde7447
      @gregoryforde7447 Рік тому +1

      Best wishes to you
      @Martin Chege from Kenya.
      All my best to you & yours,
      From The Great State of
      Texas.
      May The Lord Bless Y'all in '23

    • @martin_chege
      @martin_chege Рік тому +1

      @@gregoryforde7447 Amen

  • @cbr600rx7
    @cbr600rx7 Рік тому +5

    Honestly 100 miles of range at 34F isn’t even usable range where I live. I am curious to know what the temperature increased to during the day as well. Even in my mild weather state of Virginia we regularly see lows down into the 20s and even into the single digit temperatures at times. Love the video and look forward to seeing how the M998 turns out.

  • @skylolo7359
    @skylolo7359 Рік тому

    When towing with electric truck and if you have to charge it would you have to unhook trailer to charge it at any station so you wouldn't block other vehicles. Just curious

  • @vd1721
    @vd1721 Рік тому +5

    Your results are right in line with TFL trucking tow test with the Rivian. Same weight trailer they got right around 100 miles

  • @ronclements2002
    @ronclements2002 Рік тому

    So I appreciate the video completely. I do think there is a place for EVs, but hauling a trailer surely is not one of them! You have now experienced what any good running diesel can do! We don’t take all day to do a couple hours worth of work. I can definitely appreciate such a small truck and 10,000 lbs is about what a half ton maximum is between 9 and 11. But for what you paid for your ev buys me a lot more truck!

  • @weekendstuff
    @weekendstuff Рік тому +5

    Very interesting video. Showing the capabilities and limitations of todays EVs. Out of curiosity is it possible to not switch to tow mode and have the remaining capacity calculated correctly? In that case developers have a nice overflow in their software occurring if you add a different factor to their estimations. And you might have 655.35 (int16/100) Miles of Range after the overrun :-)

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 Рік тому

      I doubt they're using 16-bit integers in their code.

  • @Cesarini77
    @Cesarini77 Рік тому +4

    I love your videos. You are always addressing doubt that comes to my mind about EV and even go a step further. The next video should be about with your rivian went crazy with the battery range. Btw, i still think your eHummer is the coolest car ever!

  • @rknudson1407
    @rknudson1407 Рік тому

    I'm wondering.. when are they going to put the regenerative braking technology to the trailer brakes? for EV vehicles towing trailers??

  • @dieselrepublic7323
    @dieselrepublic7323 Рік тому +6

    It took all day to drive 100 miles in an electric truck vs 2 hours in a diesel or gas truck I guess some people just value there time differently. Not to mention the struggle just to charge and have to wait 2 hours when you could pull up to a gas station and fill up in 10 minutes.

  • @JordanBeagle
    @JordanBeagle Рік тому +4

    10:20 Sketchy, I would never want to play a guessing game of how much distance I have left, sounds like constant anxiety to me and you can't just get someone to bring you a jerry can of gas!

  • @mindseye4914
    @mindseye4914 Рік тому +5

    very very informative video and I am so glad to see you did a real world towing use-case. I was considering a R1T for towing our travel trailer that is around 7,000lbs. This video tells me that the infrastructure is just not ready for serious towers. Electric vehicles and trucks are nice but they are not useful for main use-cases that people buy trucks for, which is rather unfortunate.

    • @DailyShit.
      @DailyShit. 11 місяців тому

      Long distances+ high load is not and never will be a use-case for EVs. Just like planes or cargo ships. It just makes no sense and it will never work because physics are not magic.
      So that´s why you can‘t be dissapointed. Or some other assholes acting arrogant that they can fuel up and keep going with 150 mile increments.
      Yes but with a city EV you can go without charging somewhere for weeks or months.
      Dont know why anyone would use an EV for RV trips.

  • @FireLt2017
    @FireLt2017 Рік тому

    I noticed you had layers of clothes and a cap. Did you use the heat on this test or have to choose between heat and range??

  • @dodik240
    @dodik240 Рік тому +32

    So you had about 11000lb.
    Your trailer weight was 9300 but you forgot that your truck is holding about 900lb on your hitch. Am I missing something?
    Great vid.

    • @zachmoyer1849
      @zachmoyer1849 Рік тому +9

      yeah i think he did screw it up if he only had the trailer tires on the scale should have left the whole rig on and subtracted the curb weight of the rivian

    • @DrewNorthup
      @DrewNorthup Рік тому +8

      They can set the Tare Weight on those scales (also useful for subtracting the weight of the trailer to get the weight of the load itself, which is sometimes required).

    • @joeis4ever
      @joeis4ever Рік тому

      Good question 🙋‍♂️

  • @beckman2007
    @beckman2007 Рік тому +8

    Seeing your rise as a UA-cam towing channel has been such a journey. Now you're up there with Hoovies Garage 🤣.

  • @jerryk1724
    @jerryk1724 Рік тому +18

    You have convinced me EV is NOT for me. Thank you sir.

  • @brucemartini2288
    @brucemartini2288 Рік тому

    semi's are on that concept. tractor weight ,18-20K LBS
    TRAILER 18K LBS leagal max load limit for semi trailer- 40k pounds
    for DOT max weight(total vehichle) of 80K Lbs

  • @costafilh0
    @costafilh0 Рік тому +4

    2 videos in the same day doing the same thing! PRO!

  • @kobester03
    @kobester03 Рік тому +7

    Very interested to see what the range would be without the trailer in the same temps. Also can't wait to see more of the whisper project!

  • @grabbarna2
    @grabbarna2 Рік тому +5

    In Sweden we have a max towing speed of 50mph (80km/h). The mpg is a lot better at those speeds since the air resistance is growing with the square of the speed. I think you would get a lot more miles with the trailer if you stick to going 50 :). That is the standard speed for semi trucks with trailer as well and that should have a reason behind it !

    • @chriskociuruba2835
      @chriskociuruba2835 Рік тому +6

      You would literally get run off the road doing 50 mph here, it’s nothing for most semis to be doing 70 or faster, I’d honestly be worried for my safety trying to drive that slow and not pace surrounding traffic.

    • @Taizunx
      @Taizunx Рік тому +2

      @@chriskociuruba2835 Which is one of the reasons the US has more than twice the amount of traffic-related deaths per 1 billion km driven compared to Sweden.

    • @chriskociuruba2835
      @chriskociuruba2835 Рік тому +1

      @@Taizunx people’s attitudes in the US just suck too… everybody is in a hurry to fly through life and miss everything… doesn’t matter how fast you get stuff done or how fast you get someplace the end result is still gonna be the same, stop being so angry and in such a hurry and slowdown and enjoy the ones and the things around you…

    • @joma13344
      @joma13344 Рік тому +2

      I would like to point out that average commute times in the US are longer than Sweden, as well as we do have quite a few roads that are just straight for miles upon miles. I can get on a freeway and drive for 24 hours straight (ignoring sleep and refueling), probably even more, and never go slower than 60mph, usually cruising between 65-80mph. 50mph might work well for Sweden, but the US isn't Sweden.

  • @tp7848
    @tp7848 Рік тому +1

    Bungee cord.... "That's not going anywhere."
    Had me laughing.

  • @onechain13
    @onechain13 Рік тому +11

    it'd be interesting to see the same trip but in the summer for a range test

  • @N0N0111
    @N0N0111 Рік тому +17

    5:40 The increase is probably cause the batteries are warming up for better efficiency.

    • @quinnjim
      @quinnjim Рік тому +1

      Keep watching. The range estimate ends up above 600 miles. It’s broken…

  • @kumarmithilesh1886
    @kumarmithilesh1886 Рік тому +4

    Your Rivian is going through a Brain freeze🤣🤣🤣. So give some warmth and don't let him work so hard in this freezing temperatures.

  • @bohicajohnson7203
    @bohicajohnson7203 Рік тому

    No self levelling suspension on the Rivian? Land Rover had this in 1999 with the Discovery 2!