Can you Trail with Overdrive? TESTED!
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2022
- I see this repeated over and over again: "You don't want to trail with overdrive".
The common reasons:
- it will wear your tires faster
- it will break your transmission gears due to the stress
- it will overheat your motor
Is all of this really true? In this video, I go on a 2-mile trail walk with an Axial Base Camp - with 25% overdrive in it, all to specifically watch the truck and see what happens.
Do YOU trail with overdrive? If so, how much overdrive, and what have been your results? Let me know in the comments!
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My Axial sxc10 3 JLU has about 25% OD in her and my Daughters old school Axial sxc10 G6 Rubicon has about 20% in it. Her G6 has been built for a good 6 to 7 years and I have never had any issues. We are 75% Tails around where I live in NC, we are doing just fine with the Overdrive. Thanks for the Video!
Awesome feedback Adam - thank you!
@@RoadsideRC You're welcome but the real thank you is for you and your information you provided for us, so thank you for your awesome uploads.
FOD won’t hurt these at all! Not enough friction.
Great vid 👍🏼
Agree 100%
Thanks!
Helps a guy who can only afford to have 1 truck and is just getting into the hobby.
Yep! Run it either trail or crawl!
Beautiful scenery....I agree...I have the optional 25% overdrive in my Ecto and I like it just fine. Thanks for all your videos
Glad you like them!
Thanks for the kind words.
You answered my question about overdrive. Great video. Thank you! Subscribed!
Great! Glad this was helpful!
Thank you for sharing this video. I bought a TRX sport from Traxxas and I was watching UA-cam videos and curious about the overdrive in undergrad. After watching your video, I am now going to install the parts that I bought yesterday. Which was the underdrive for the rear axle.
Awesome! Glad it helped.
Good luck on the install!
Excellent video! This answers some of my questions. Thank you for sharing the results of your testing and experience. Very helpful! Maybe I’ll try overdrive after all. 👍✌️
Awesome! Glad this was helpful!
Welp…this has persuaded me to throw in my OD gears in my Gen8 axled, 14” WB Mojaveii 4 door long bed, leafed SCX10 😂🤣 Preciate you for all these videos with real world testing & video proof. From drifting to crawling, your vids done helped me address a lot with concerns I’ve had over the years. Mahaloz braddah. 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Glad to be helpful!!!
Thank you sir..really cleared out my mind..👍
Really glad I could help!!!
I agree here in north Alabama our trails have lots of obstacles so overdrive just helps, I have overdrive in my Gen 8 and it’s my trail truck, works like a champ!!!!
Thanks! I agree!
Love your content. This is great!!!❤❤❤
Thank you so much!!
Excellent video once again!
Thanks!
I appropriate the video! I came to the similar conclusions about overdrive and the stock max speed. Thank you!
Great! Thank you!
Great video man, really appreciate the info!
I personally love my overdrive in my Capra
I am a big fan!
Thanks for watching.
@@RoadsideRC oh damn, cheers man! Big fan of your work too!
I did Beat the Creek with my GSpeed comp build and 30% OD with zero issues. Covered miles of trails flawlessly.
Exactly!!!
Great video! Really well done. Thanks for sharing the beautiful day you had on the trail. Do you use a GoPro?
Yep, most filming is done with a GoPro.
Sweeeeeet run beautiful park thanks for sharing your thoughts good to know. ✌
Thanks 👍
I totally agree with you. I see that it’s not needed, but there is no real dissadvantages.
Thanks!
Overdrive not needed for crawling? What?
@@FarmerFpv In some situations in crawling its good. In my crawler I have about 30%. What I’m saying is that on a trail ride its usually not needed, but it does not hurt the truck. In my opinion😊
Thanks
Thank you for this. I want to trail my new RedCat Ascent Fusion and I was concerned with the OD. I have noticed with my build that’s the rears are actually losing tread. Slowly. But it’s focused to the rear. I know it comes with under driven trans gears from the factory. My main concern with trail as most been tire wear. I do plan on throwing the normals 1:1 gears in later. To actually see if the tire wear evens out. Time will tell. But this video ultimately let my fears subsided knowing I’ll be ok with the 20% installed already.
Thank You for your hard work. It’s greatly appreciated.
Glad this video helped!
I am curious: what tires are you using?
@@RoadsideRC the stock ones that come with the Ascent Fusion bead locks.
I get how people would want more wheel speed trailing. With my fusion pro motor it has such good slow speed control I'm just gonna gear it up. Lol.
100%!!!!
Seems pretty manageable to me Troy, running overdrive at 25%! I don’t have anything with overdrive, but I do have a 4wd buggy that comes stock with Front tires that are less than .25% smaller than the rears. A few messaged me saying that it should bind the 4wd (create axle wrap)and it hasn’t done that at all yet. I’ve run it quite a bit too, and on 3s. Front wheels doing the same basic thing , spinning more rpm’s than the rear. No problems as of yet. In the real world different diameter tires from front to rear on a 4wd is no no. ( actually there is a .25% and less allowance. Maybe that’s why mine and yours are doing ok…
Anyway, interesting video Troy! 👍🏻😎👋🏻
Yes - thanks for the feedback!
Sweet💪
Thanks!
Man I was in Murfreesboro for a wedding this weekend and wish I could have hit some of the awesome terrain.
Yes! TN is covered in good crawling spots.
My gen 8 doesn’t have od but it’s my do everything truck.. trailing, crawling, and backyard off roading
You should give it a shot!
On my VRD carbon using megalithics, the front is very clearly worn much more than the rear. I don't really trail with it though so it makes sense since all it's time has been on rocks.
Thanks! Those are very soft tires as well, so will show any difference easier.
thanks for posting this this was actually a concern of mine for a bit alot of the crawler guys near me had been talking about for a while (also i wanted to apologize for a few replies i made a while back on one of your drift gyro videos i felt like they may have come across as rude )
Thank you!
Glad this video was helpful.
Always hard to tell intent in short comments online. Thanks for the clarification.
Just never found that much need for OD. If the truck is geared, tired and powered right they just seem to go everywhere an OD truck does. I use one with, and others without. I overbuilt the OD truck though with metal axles but it's been trouble free. I do some wheel speed antics with it and drive it on dirt but I wouldn't want to run it on pavement for extended periods. The strain from the different gearing tends to preload the axles and takes some slop out between front and rear.
Glad you have done your own testing!
So many people share opinions without actually testing it.
The only time I have found an issue is in the 2nd gear on my TRX4 K10 and 2021 bronco. It would speed wobble or make a crazy sound. My TRX4s can go 32 mph in 2nd gear with my hobbywing axe system and my castle system. lol
Running the 12 % on my gatekeeper and it does great on trail and climbing
I agree!
15% is the sweet spot for my hardbody on swampers.
20% on the redcat ascent made day and night difference.
Thanks for the feedback!
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I run 30% overdrive in my c2 build that I will also trail with. My 10.3 jeep jlu wrangler has 27% and trails fine. I have never ran proline tires only duratrax and jconcepts. Have you seen a difference in compound from g8 to predator with different temperatures and is there a major preference difference?
Thanks for the comment!
Predator is much better for me, in all conditions.
@@RoadsideRC Awesome. I'm looking at getting some km3's class1 for the jeep and either krawlers or km3 for the class2.
I do with my trx4 sport no problems at all
I agree!
Personally think 2 speed gearboxes are great for smaller cars in trail crawlering Personally I use a wpl c24 for alot of stuff and tend to have more fun p.s. heavily upgraded tend to have more fun with it then my scx10ii and cage scx10 custom. Some reason I love the wpl more really don't no why........ probably because I am so surprised on how much it can handle being a small 1/16 scale car but heavily upgraded. Even has carbon fibre rails lmfao yes something that some people call toy grade 😂 tbh really do love the small thing ❤️ 💙 💜
I've never tried one of those. Have on on my saved list to try, but never pulled the trigger.
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Which park is that? Wondering how far away from my place in Celina.
Pretty far away.
I would suggest you visit us at Big Buddha's RC Ranch instead - much closer to you!
Hi. Awesome video. What % overdrive has it got? Any help would be awesome.
Around 25% in this video.
@@RoadsideRC what 1 did you use?
Front is top
I have never understood people saying things like the tires will wear out, or gears will wear out. Sure on a full size real vehicle these things might happen, tires especially. But rc vehicles are not scale to weight, if they were, something like a trx4 or its china clone, would weight 460-500lbs..... based on its 1/10 scale and the broncos 4600-5000 lbs. those 2 rc trucks weight like 6 or 7 lbs. My first good rc car was a old sears lobo II, and i ran that thing into the ground, had to glue its tires to its wheels because the wheels would spin inside them, drove it on grass, rocks, gravel, and pavement, did leave rubber marks on pavement even, and drove it for years, its tires never wore out and i was abusing it.
I agree 100%!! So many folks say things without actually testing them.
well I have worn out some crawler tires but I didn't have overdrive
You should give it a shot!
But, what if I reverse a lot?? :P
Put it on a treadmill at full speed and see what fails....then we will all know
That is an odd test suggestion.
What happens if nothing fails...??? That is one LONG and BORING video.
Quite an informative video! This is interesting and now has me thinking about putting a mild overdrive in my TRX-4M F-150 that I'm going to use primarily as a trail truck and build a Tarantula chassis kit for extreme crawling. I guess some overdrive ought to help with towing by giving the front a little more pulling effectiveness. Was thinking I could put the Tarantula on a trailer and use the TRX-4M to haul it around until we get to a rock crawl spot to offload it and play, lol. Let me ask you this... what about overdriving both axles to give it more pulling power overall while still having say, 11-15% overdrive in the front? Think that would work?
Hi there! Glad you thought this was interesting!
When you overdrive both axles - you are increasing the wheel speed of both axles. That is MUCH cheaper to do by simply installing a bigger pinion gear. As an example.
@@RoadsideRC thanks for the tip! And I was looking for a way to get more pulling power without sacrificing too much speed with the 40.3:1 kit, since it'll be primarily a trail truck. As long as the little TRX4M can maintain a walking pace of 2.5 mph I'm good, lol. Me and the girlfriend are wanting to do the very thing you do in this video, go hiking around nature trails in our area as well as when out on camping trips and bringing the little crawlers along.
It overworks the motor and you get hotter temps
So far, I have not found that to be true. I did a 2-mile hike with the truck in this video...and the motor was still cool.
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