The end of analog cable TV from Cablevision
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Cablevision in New Jersey ended their analog cable TV service in late August 2012. Since then, most of the channels are still transmitting a picture, but the programming has been replaced by a message telling you to get a digital cable box or use a digital-cable-compatible TV.
Now the only analog TV left in my area is from WNYZ-LP on channel 6 in New York City, an analog LPTV station which acts as an FM radio station, using their audio signal on 87.75 MHz.
I remember seeing this after coming home from vacation.
@Ritchie Navarro COX sucks! LOL.
I REALLY agree with "Plus, it was nice being able to flip through channels so quickly and easily!"
To be fair, when you pulled the CableCARD from the cable box, it would give you this same message. Trust me, when I was a kid, who grew up with Cablevision, I did the same thing, then the TV would show this message.
I miss analog cable TV. It never broke down, and the image quality was fantastic. Plus, it was nice being able to flip through channels so quickly and easily!
Digital TV (or indeed, digital ANYTHING) is extremely unreliable. I would hardly call this progress.
They needed to do this to encrypt channels because there was a lot of channel theft
@@SmallHappyOtter yup, people were able to scramble inapropriate channels such as porn without having to pay.
There are far too many trees on my property to use a satellite dish. I live in the woods pretty much!
be glad u can get cable.
@@MrPillowStudios why??
Our local cable TV network (KabelDeutschland) still transmits analog TV, as well as digital TV and HD TV that obviously need a compatible receiver. A lot of the analog channels were moved to digital already, and it's clearly visible that they don't care for their analog systems anymore as the analog channels' image quality is becoming increasingly bad.
In my grandmother's house they did the same as you did. One TV has been registered, but really they are running 3 :D
Great that they still keep that running. Save analog cable for CRT sets.
@@bioskahabinivous9906 My comment above was posted 8 years ago... our cable TV network provider has since switched off all analog channels, both TV and even radio.
@@DrCassette then RIP analog cable channels
@@bioskahabinivous9906 except on some hotels that have analog cable TV.
From PAL-B/G to DVB-C
At least its not static.
1:05
Landon_The_VHS_Collector 213 it’s called snow,
77 is static
Color Stream is Toshiba's name for component video.
oh thats why my old HDTV says Color stream
I remember when Xfinity had analog TV until~2013 and the master bedroom TV used it. Our main TV & the basement had a cable box and we weren't happy having to pay $7/mo just for an STB
You could just get a TiVo and a cable card for $2
@@SmallHappyOtter but does cablecards still work with MPEG-4?
On most 16:9 TV programs the extra width on the sides is only used for background scenery, so that viewers won't miss anything important when the sides get cut off to fit a 4:3 screen. The digital cable box will automatically letterbox any 16:9 programming that is not formatted this way to fit a 4:3 screen, such as movies.
Until analog TV stop being broadcasted I had a paper clip in the in the coaxial of my CRT TV. It was quite interesting to watch TV when I was sent to my room when I was 8/9.
I am on vacation until Friday, and you know what's weird? We still have a analog! #AnalogLivesMatter
A DTV converter box is for use with an antenna, not cable TV.
DTV converter box are only to be used in ATSC broadcasts. Cable TV box are only to be used in QAM cable.
US, the Philippines, South Korea and Taiwan uses analog American NTSC-M for both terrestrial and cable broadcasting.
Philippines uses Japanese ISDB-T/Tb (Brazilian SBTVD-T) (with US DTV frequency 6MHz spacing at 60Hz resolution), US and South Korea are also ATSC, and Taiwan uses European DVB-T/T2 (US DTV frequency 6MHz spacing at 60Hz resolution).
Unlike the Japanese ISDB-C (Cable) and ISDB-S (BS Satellite) (ISDB-C and ISDB-S are only to be used in Japan), Both Philippines and Taiwan uses DVB-C/C2 (6MHz spacing at 60Hz resolution) and the US (and South Korea?) uses QAM.
Rest of the world uses DVB-S/S2 for international standard for FTA satellite broadcasting.
I haven't counted. I can pick up some NJ signals too, and if I rotate the antenna to aim that way, I can pick up some Philadelphia stations as well.
i've been by the local dump and they have a long dumpster usually filled with all kinds of tv's
Good news for US to people that dont see TV, so this days the Analog tv no longer cost so many money I will be able to buy some and use them for displaying consoles and computers
NCIS Rules. It just recently began airing in syndication here in Japan.
Aerial analog TV were shut down in 2007 here in Norway. Some cable companies still transmit analog signals, but most people used aerial signals. To make it worse, it were decided to use a non-standard encoding signal, so 99% of the TVs with a built-in digital decoder are not compatible. Thus making you have to buy the decoder sold by the distributor. Digital signals also require stronger signal strength, making fewer people able to receive aerial TV signals.
I, know that feeling! When you want to watch your favorite tv show or ballgame. And you can’t
Because your cable company screwed your TV up, it can make your day in a flash, it stinks!
Thank god you have a DTV converter box.”
To provide you programming, it’s better than not having no TV.
I have dish Hopper3 whole home DVR, I’m thankful it works great!
I remember when I had Comcast’s cable tv.”
Back in the 2000’s it was was not fun when the tv service stopped working that also means the internet will stop working as well. Comcast now Xfinity is a pile of crap, I had them before I experienced that problem all the time, it’s a good thing to have a back up when something goes wrong with your cable service.”
Oh i see, USA is still streaming the TV Channels in 4:3. In Europe most channels are in 16:9.
We still have around 50 or so channels in analog. AND a good 20 or so in Clear QAM
long live Northern CableVision in Canada, we still get analog air signals over VHF as well.
Yes, you can buy a QAM tuner box or a new TV with a built-in QAM tuner, which can receive the unencrypted digital cable channels. Usually, however, this is only the basic local channels, the same as what you can get with a DTV converter box and an antenna.
If QAM tuner box will work on DVB-C in Brazil (PAL-M/NTSC), Chile, Mexico, Taiwan, Philippines (ALL NTSC COUNTRIES)
7 years later that trick doesnt even work anymore with the DTV box. :(
1:36 why is CBS in 4:3. what is the highest channel number analog cable can go up to? not 120
Chris Cornish Because the TV is 4:3. Most cable-ready TVs go up to channel 125.
one of my cousins still has a 4:3 TV and everything is in 16:9
Chris Cornish With DTV converter boxes you can choose to either letterbox the image (black bars at top and bottom) or crop off the sides (filling the screen) when displaying a 16:9 program on a 4:3 TV.
i haven't had a 4:3 TV for 7 years
+Chris Cornish I still have a 4:3 monitor.
My college dorms have both analog and digital cable, I don't know who the provider is but I was able to hook up my 1984 Hitachi and get clear signals on about 30 channels! The rest are digital though so I don't get them without a converter box.
The father away you are from the cable TV provider's headend office, the weaker the signal gets and thus the more noisy it gets. Usually the lower channels (VHF range) are less noisy because there is less signal loss through the cable at lower frequencies.
I think you can still buy them in stores, but the $40 government coupon has long since expired.
I picked up a DTV box at a yardsale a while back for $3, along with my new 36" Toshiba CRT I got for $20
In 2012? In my country we had analog over the air TV until Septmber 2013 (March-Septmber was a transition period for people to switch to digital over the air TV by either buying DTV boxes or replace their TV sets with modern ones with DVB tuners) and my cable company ended providing analog cable TV just last year from August 1st
In Belgium, Same story, no CableCARD (CI+ here) available, you have to rent their (unstable and very annoying) STB that blocks anytime...
wow you guys are just now switching over to digital cable out there i work for Comcast out of Delaware and we have been digital for over a year now
Comcast sent 2 basic digital converters to my grandmother for free since they went all digital. Very basic and RF only, not even a power button or guide, but they work. She already had an addressable box on her Digital Preferred plan, so maybe they threw them in because of that. Verizon ditched their limited analog on Fios back in 2008, no free boxes though.
A satellite dish needs a clear view of the southern sky. The south side of my property is all woods.
The main TV has always had a digital cable box since we got cable. Now this second TV is using a DTV box with the antenna in the attic.
No, I have not tried, because I have no interest in satellite TV. I hardly ever watch TV anyway.
Have you at least tried? My area has lots trees in the direct path of my satellite dish and It still works.
I don't think they can charge you based on the number of splits. Where I live, there's probably a half a dozen or more splits in the house (some of which don't work and most of which we don't use) and Charter is renting out up to two digital tuners free of rent for a year or so (of course, after the year is up, rent will need to be paid on both tuners).
Why cable tv (analog) is full of noise? Shouldn't that be a direct connection to you without any interference?
Aww man! That sucks. I'm not sure if Analogue cable is offered in my area or not. I haven't had "cable TV" since 2005 or so before we switched to Dish Network. Got rid of that in 2008 and I've been using a DTV box since 2009. I watch so little TV anymore it really doesn't matter.
I USED TO WATCH ANALOG CABLE VIA COX CABLE FOR 15 YEARS 2000-2015 GOOD MEMORIES.
Charter just wet to all digital about two weeks ago. We called them for the one free box that they offer, and I decieded to do a cable spitter from te main hdtv box the tv in the guess bedroom, the do a wireless transmitter from the second box upstairs to the third tv in the bedroom across the hall upstairs.
Smart move.
Marie Atkisson How has that worked out so far for you?
some DTV boxes have a QAM tuner for cable tv, I know my digital stream has it, you go in the options and switch it from antenna to cable
In Rogers cable TV in Canada, If you have QAM tuner hooke up from Rogers Cable, all digital cable TV channels are scrambled. You need to order a cable box for subscription.
Whew! Am I glad I have a set top digital converter box from Cablevision. I got a newsflash for you dude: I've already beaten the analog shutdown deadline by getting three more converter boxes from that same cable company three and a half years ago. Oh, and I have a Kindlefire with an Optimum app too. That's right, I have six TV sets. Five are analog, one is an High definition set. I had the original three boxes back in 2004.
That's what I like about Thailand they still use analog cable TV
You have to have a different kind of converter box that picks up cable TV. Amazon sells them.
i am guessing you if your tv could do digital can still watch without a box right?
Sad to hear that, I know that you would enjoy that kind of stuff a lot, any restrictions that keep you from putting it on the roof? or just too much trees even at that height?
actually the RF energy for each channel is very small (less than 100 watts) unlike the power it takes to transmit out over the air (several hundred thousand watts). I do however think it is kind for them to spend even that tiny bit of power to redirect people to digital.
I have digital over-the-air antenna I no longer have cable or satellite it was getting too ridiculously expensive I'm not going to pay 2 or $300 to watch TV. I suggest everyone cut the cord and just get Netflix or Hulu or even Amazon Prime those services are so much cheaper and these days you really don't need a live TV all that much you have your over-the-air antenna for that and that's mostly just for local news and weather everything else in my house is pretty much just on demand stuff. As far as ABC CBS and NBC I can watch their TV shows on demand anytime either with my Roku box or my Amazon Fire stick streaming is pretty much the way to go for now it's a lot cheaper.
There's an Insignia version of that Zenith cable box. Both being made by LG.
considering how many hospitals, hotels, nursing homes etc use analog cable still I'm shocked to see this. I live in MA worse case scenario I'll get a digital cable card for my computer
Thanks for the information! :)
So analog cable lasted longer then ota analog I had no idea. Wish I knew this earlier.
Yes, it did! In Puerto Rico analog cable* through Adelphia did last at least until 2012-13. Know because at "the digital cliff" day in 2009 my parents paid for Basic + cable tier and we didn't need any box whether the TV was digital or not.
* analog was only available in the Basic and Basic+ tiers. All higher tiers, premium channels and PPV needed a separate digital box to see.
After Adelphia converted to digital we started to need a box for all services.
aaargh, now we cable pirates can take over the abandoned channels!~!
In my case it would be VHF 2 and 3 so i can broadcast education and news. I respect your opinion
you still have the 4:3? I'm Italian and here the main channels are all in 16:9
Time Warner is just starting this here in Buffalo. They're removing some lesser watched channels from the analog cable spectrum next week. I'm not sure when they're going to totally kill it, and with the huge reliance on analog here, I don't think it will be for a while. Also, I'm pretty sure they don't charge for another TV. That was eliminated when they took over control of Adelphia in 2004/05. The only think to stop you from splitting the line is the decrease in picture quality.
Yes.
In our house my TV has Sky HD but they also charge you more a month for Multiroom so the other 2 TVs now have freeview which works from an aerial in London the switchover was a few months back but can pick up the digital signals really well even being 70 miles away.
Many places here don't have cable so all we have is Sky.
For the DTV box, yes.
Who's watching in 2020
It's funny, I haven't had television for more then five years now, and I can't say I miss it. I can hook ten computers to my broadband connection, and via hdmi hook said computers to a flat panel television. With practices like charging for additional televisions, it's a wonder anyone has tv anymore.
But how do you watch ypu favourite shows
I made a UA-cam video showing me having Cable hooked up to a old Analog TV and there was a blank screen on channel 2.
Essentially yes, though frequency allocations are different. With broadcast UHF, Channel 14 starts at 470Mhz. With Cable, Channel 14 starts at 121 Mhz (AKA right over aviation frequencies) and reuses frequencies used for other things as well (marine, general 2-way). It can do this since all the energy at these frequencies is sent through the cable, and not over the air.
US CATV channels 65 to 94 uses US UHF TV channels 14 to 43, US CATV channels 100 to 125 uses US UHF TV channels 44 to 69.
Cable TV can go up to channels 125.
Comcast in Pennsylvania made this switch over 2 years ago and gave out up to 4 free converter boxes no questions asked, now if you need more they charge 2 - 4 bucks a month for them.
I wonder if this message or anything is still displayed in analog form on cable TV systems nowadays
This is a blatant FCC violation.. Cable companies have to allow you to bring your own equipment, alas a analog or digital TV and in some cases your own digital cablebox.. This doesn't sit right with me..
No its fine. I removed the CableCARD from the cable box I once owned and this showed up on the screen.
Cool video...just learned that cable tv is just a TV signal (vhf/uhf) transmitted over cable instead of broadcasted, right?
I gotta ask man.... Have u switched to an HD TV yet or are u still ROCKING the old school monitors?
This TV is still in use today, just with a digital FiOS box now.
Wasn't Color Stream Toshiba's name for component video?
Yes.
If I’m not wrong, weren’t they supposed to turn off by 12 June 2009?
Cable and satellite won’t affect the analog TV broadcast shutdown.
After Canada’s 2011 analog TV shutoff, remaining cable TV channels from analog are fewly transfered to digital but all analog cable TV channels are all digital in 2014.
The digital switchover of 2009 didn’t apply to subscription services like cable and satellite television, it only applied to terrestrial/over-the-air television.
@@KRAWofficial yeah true, I made that comment before I understand the digital transition.
that is sad 😥
Analog tv here in Canada was turned off @ the end of August 2011. Now we are all Digital
Analog cable TV has turned off in 2014.
In analog you are right except it only uses the VHF portion and part of the UHF , the other channels use different frequencies, at least in america it was like that.. Digital Cable is another story as it uses QAM and other frequencies,
vwestlife: why don't you try hooking an FTA receiver and a Dish in your backyard? I'm pretty sure that's one of those things you would enjoy.
I have service electric and analog service ended for me in March 2015
It did the same thing with Comcast back in 2012 I think
That is freakin creepy man. Nice Vid!
It kinda sucks that this happened vwestlife. I think a similar think happened to my grandparents I think it was right about the start of 2018 or so. Everything went to subscriber only signal. My grandparents live in cohoes ny. And, like you vwestlife, one count just hook any amount of tv's up to cable without have to subscribe to a cable subscription, not these days thoug sadly. It was so before time warner was bought out by spectrum that you could hook any number of tv's to cable in the area that my grandparents live.
Did you pull the CableCARD from the cable box?
No, I had to return it to the cable company.
@@vwestlife oh ok
In UK similar thing; we still have analogue dish on houses which equals free view, but satellite is taking over for paid TV Sky, Virgin media, BT
Please tell to connect dtv box to a colorstream input on your tv
Most cable companies did away with the "charge extra for additonal TVs" thing years ago. I remember the days Comcast still had clear QAM for everything including the PPV channel block. Got to watch quite a few free movies that way. Of course it was totally random and you had to wait while the neighbor paused the show and went to the bathroom.
Encrypted QAM cable TV in Canada (except for audio only radio)
£10 to get Rupert Murdoch's Sky on another TV (unless, you use the RF output to relay what's on the main box to the other TVs, they're all right with that)
I never quite got how so many people in the US are still using 4:3 TVs, is it just the concept of 16:9 didn't really take off?
its the end of Cablevision since Altice
Are you telling me that they charge you another fees for another receiver just so you'd be able to receive digital cable? I'd simply cancel my subscription in that case and find another provider. This is called fraud. They can't simply steal your money that way. They make you call to a number, essentially requiring you to switch over to digital, and they actually charge you for another receiver in your house? I'm glad I do not live in USA because this kind of treatment is illegal over here in Europe.
What happened is that Cable TV systems in US charge an extra fee for every connected TV and our dear host did pay for a digital box upstairs, but not any Cable for the 2nd TV (he was able to connect the other TV as long as it was analog).
Once everyone was forced to have a digital box for any service he had to pay for a connection he didn't formerly report, so it was a NON-ISSUE.
Most cable companies have went downhill ever since digital cable was introduced
Where I live, there used to be a plethora of (RF) cable companies to choose from before they all tried buying each other out (Adelphia, TWC, WOW, insight and Charter), TWC bought out Adelphia, then later insight, now Charter is in talks about buying out TWC, leaving the current choices to WOW, Charter (and for now) TWC
WOW was the first (in my area) to go completely digital (and did so properly IMHO), and now TWC and Charter (AFAIK) have just recently switched to completely digital (which they implemented horribly IMHO)
WOW was decent enough to offer their digital channels out as ClearQAM, allowing any newer TV with a ClearQAM tuners to pick them up without a Digital Basic STB (of course a Digital Basic STB is still required for analog TVs), TWC and Charter on the other hand locked their digital channels to their Digital Basic STBs so that they can't be accessed via ClearQAM, basically so they could make
more money off of other TV connections
Due to personal experience, I can't stand Cable TV anymore as a whole and switched to U-verse, while an IPTV STB is required for every TV, the overall experience is much better and allows for features just not possible on Cable
Yeah, of course TWC is officially bought out now. (As of 2/24/2017.) Right now, it looks like Spectrum is going to leave the policies alone. However, they could put in a anti-consumer policy at any moment, that is what I am worried about.
For example, most Internet Service Providers have a data cap. Even AT&T's U-verse has a 150 GB data cap, you can find it if you look at the fine print hard enough. TWC was the only company I was aware of that didn't have a data cap in the fine print. If Spectrum decides to implement a data cap, I would take that to be Anti-consumer.
I don't know if it is just me, but it does seem like the reliability of cable has gone down the toilet since Spectrum took over. Used to be a cable outage was a rare occurrence, maybe once or twice a year. Now there is an outage about once a month. The last cable outage that happened took my cable modem out of the equation entirely, so I had to go get a replacement from spectrum.
watcher206 Back when I had TWC/Spectrum, it was unreliable even back then, we had triple play service and it was constantly down, sometimes the TV would work but the internet and phone were out, the TV would go out but the internet/phone would work, and there were times when everything was out
Installation and repairs were horrible too, installers/contractors are given a few hour training session after being hired and are sent out in the field and it shows, if they can manage to terminate coax correctly, it's about the only thing they know how to do, they have no idea of how the inner workings of their STBs/DVRs work, half the time they miswire something, requiring someone else to come out and "fix" it (and break something else in the process), and the worst of it was their STBs/DVRs that only lasted a month, so by the end of the year, we already went through 12 DVRs
AT&T hasn't been perfect, but it has been pretty reliable for the most part, I'm still on my original hardware that I had since installation, AT&T uses in house installers (prem techs) and doesn't allow contractor installations, so installations are always done properly and they also communicate with the customer to make sure they are satisfied with the installation before leaving
I'm not sure if AT&T just likes me or if I'm just lucky (or maybe I am grandfathered into some plan), but I don't have a 150GB data cap, I just checked my account on the "myAT&T" app and I happen to have unlimited
Wow, so it sounds like you had it worse than I did when you were with Time Warner cable. I have not had issues with the installers, or at least not in my area. But I have had issues with my equipment in the past, mainly with the TV.
In the area I used to live at, there was still Analog cable. So when the Digital TV equipment crapped out, I could just remove the cable from the Digital equipment and plug it straight to the back of the TV and continue watching the show. However, I moved to an another state about a year ago and the area I am at does *not* have analog cable. So when the Digital cable malfunctioned, I pretty much just had to ether watched air wave tv or watch UA-cam. Eventually I got sick of paying for TV service that doesn't work, so I canceled that portion of my service. I still have the phone and Internet with TWC so far.
I personally would prefer to have POTS at the phone instead of cable, because then I would at least have a working phone when the cable went out. However, that is not available in my area ether. (I have a cell phone, but I have an auditory processing problem that limits the effectiveness of a cell phone for me. So I have a landline for that reason.)
It is possible that you got grandfathered in depending on when you got service. The Data cap I read in the fine print back in 2015. I would still look at the Terms of service to make sure though. Companies have a bad habit of advertising something as unlimited and then listing the limit in the Terms of service agreement.
As an example, Vonage is guilty of this practice. They list their residential telephone service as unlimited. However, if you look at their Terms of service Section 5 D, you will see that they actually limit the service to 3,000 minutes a month.
Most information companies have a similar business practice as well.
watcher206 Yeah, I usually prewire for that reason, when we had the cable service installed, the guy seemed completely clueless
I explained to the installer that I wanted the EMTA/modem installed in the basement, but that he could cut the coax heading to the office as we wouldn't be using anything cable related in there and the coax passed by the location in the basement I wanted the modem to go, when he went to install the modem, I caught him attempting to install it in the office, I said "umm nope, in the basement, I said you could *use* that coax, not install it there", he goes "uhhh, okay" and proceeds to the basement
Next, in that particular house, only 3 rooms and a loft were wired for cable (living room, master bedroom, a media/playroom and of course the aforementioned loft), so mine any my brother's bedroom weren't wired, so I asked if he could run a line to the rooms, he said "nope, can't to it, it's not on the list, we don't do extras"
During this time, we were supposed to get an EMTA (cable modem with phone ATA), but the guy didn't have any on his truck (oh yeah, great preparation there bud), so he said he would have to schedule another guy to come out, in the meantime, I prewired for phone and ran coax to the other rooms, just so happened I wasn't around for round two
So I come home after guy #2 came out and the modem was replaced with an EMTA as was supposed to be, oh, but this guy didn't just replace the modem with the EMTA like he was supposed to, oooh no, he just had to get his dirty mitts all over my cabling
I first noticed the first issue that night, went to bed and turned on my bedroom TV... Nothing but static, change channels, again, static (during the analog days), I go down to the main splitter and noticed guy #2 disconnected the line (he had absolutely no reason to, and he shouldn't have even touched the splitter at all, wasn't required for the replacement), since I was down there, I decided to check the NID/TNI, and sure enough, guy #2 just had to mess with that too (now if we ever wanted to switch back to POTS, we couldn't as he cut the line to short to switch back, requiring a splice)
It was after that point everything started failing (shoddy DVRs, bad cable plant causing intermittent service, had the phone go out in a power outage, later finding out they never put a battery in the EMTA, which is illegal)
At that point I got fed up and we switched to WOW, and they were fine for the most part, their channel lineup lacked a bit, but for the most part was reliable as far as cable goes
We have moved since then and switched to U-verse, which we have had no problems with
POTS is better, I agree, I never was a fan of VoIP, too many chances for things to go wrong
I would understand advertising unlimited and offering a cap of some sort (either throttling speed, charging extra or blocking access) and only saying so in the fine print, though AT&T doesn't really need to advertise to me since I already have services
I am pretty sure my internet access is unlimited, myAT&T is an app used to manage and pay your bill, so I'm pretty sure if I had a 150GB cap, it would show in the meter how much of said 150 was used, currently it says "98.05 of unlimited GB used"
That's not to say that U-verse doesn't have data caps, I bet many of their plans do, but that's not to say it's impossible to have an unlimited plan
Okay. Can these make an old "analog only" TV broadcast shows?
Where could I get one of those DTV boxes?
Electronic stores.
I have a analog Cable TV, i have never gotten a digital cable box
Haha great quote
My cable company is preparing to switch off the analog signal.
You're joking right?
This is why we're watching UA-cam :-)
I would have the converter box on channel 3 like most people do because it works better
I wish the FCC would allow cable company's to add a few channels back on Analog format Im not to happy with Digital!!!!!! I try'd contacting our local Cable company and ask them.
The FCC digital switchover in 2009 only affected over-the-air broadcast TV. It did not affect cable TV systems. But many of them started switching off their analog channels around the same time, to open up more bandwidth for digital channels.
that sucks. glad still have analog cable here. will hate when it goes digital here. sure the box they sent you is free but another thing to plug in. also hate how stuff gets newer it gets slower. vhs put in and play, dvd wait few sec, bluray, wait a min if lucky. used to be able to change channels fast on tv. seems like some tv's have a slower delay between channels but lcd tv's take forever between channels. forget about cable boxes and satellite. channels surfing on that is about imposable.
Analogue TV had to go.
Can't you just get a set top box off of eBay?
At least it wasn’t like the Crystal Palace one. “BZZZRRRRTTTT”
You use a antenna?