In high end pvp duels, I haven't seen it do enough damage. If you use barber exploit I would guess it feels good to play when you have mobs but tournaments don't generally include mobs. I don't think any version that I have seen has any potential for high end pvp but you are welcome to try it with some top pvpers. Maybe you have some secret sauce no one else has figured out. 🤔
Double swing barb is stronger. Dude i was in a pre tournament lobby with around 20 people and this one barb was taking 3 poisen rouges at once! The absolute most tankiest barbarian I’ve ever seen.
Hey bro so sorc is actually one of the tankiest classes in the game. The problem is no one builds like that. 😢Also another note blizzard fire enchant is meta. If you stun or immobilize they are ded you ain't surviving that
@@Nihjanix That wasn't my experience. The lack of healing outside of blood orbs is quite annoying but you can make do if you get creative. A lot more gear dependent than druid or barb but still much better than rogue or sorc.
@@anitaremenarova6662 Survivability includes not only health but also invulnerability and unstoppables. Sorcs have more cool downs than necros hence why I see them as even. Rogues can heal off their attacks and also have naturally high dodge chance. My thinking is of who would survive the longest standing still and using their cooldowns against a well geared barb for example. That's my take on it but I see your points as well.
@@Nihjanix Neither of them have fortify though, also no shield that has 3 extra DR slots compared to other classes. Dodge isn't really relevant considering any dangerous damage (dot) completely bypasses it. I'm currently working on a thorns necro so I made her especially tanky since I have to stay out of blood mist most of the time.
@@anitaremenarova6662 Well for the video I considered the top builds like blood mist which runs a focus, and bone spear which often runs a two-hand weapon. Of course a shield will make you tankier but a cost of damage and cooldowns.
I think my (100)(Seasonal)Blizz Sorc can kill any Arc or Fire sorc. I also think i can beat any physical rogue (not poison). I could be wrong, if any1 wana add and do some friendly duels im down :-)
I based my observations on tournament results. You may not be wrong, but I imagine you have a hard time against top barbs and poison rogues, which firewall sorcs stand a better chance against.
with FW sorc u have same sutiation as posion rogue. one invulnerability and a single touch of flame shield and you have burning on you that deals ~9k damage a tick (basically dead). You dont even need a firewall to kill a non tanky character, flame shield is enough.
Sorcs have been consistently doing well in organized tournaments ever since the firewall build came out. First place sorc finishes are not out of the ordinary.
yes but poison rogues plaguing the open world pvp, have you met the monsters rogue poison roaming the pvp area in Asian server? I played Double Swing Barb with the cheese stun heart, can,t win on the poison rogue rapid fire, its insane when you encounter them, i can take on the firewall sorc, necros, some barbs, some druids, some TB poison rogue but not the rapidd fire poison rogue, super fast tick of death and their untouchable@@Nihjanix
@@503pinoylife Isn't that just how the game is supposed to work? With enough CC duration affixes and aspects you can make stuns last 5 seconds or even longer.
@@anitaremenarova6662 There is a bug with the calculated heart that applies a stun through damage overtime effects, and refreshes throughout the whole duration with every tick of damage. And the stun doesn't turn off from damage over time, meaning you don't have to spend resources to get it back. This is not an intended effect. On barbs who can bleed you from thorns, it means you are perma stunned when you damage them.
QUESTION: I don´t play PvP but when i have a wizard with a permanent flame shield, how could I ever lose?
Thanks! but where are the builds?
What are your thoughts of LS druid, i seem to do super well
In high end pvp duels, I haven't seen it do enough damage. If you use barber exploit I would guess it feels good to play when you have mobs but tournaments don't generally include mobs. I don't think any version that I have seen has any potential for high end pvp but you are welcome to try it with some top pvpers. Maybe you have some secret sauce no one else has figured out. 🤔
Tournaments? Where
discord.gg/sevenofclubs
Nobody talk about the Seven of Clubs.
@@Nihjanixcould you repost please 😊 link has expired
Double swing barb is stronger. Dude i was in a pre tournament lobby with around 20 people and this one barb was taking 3 poisen rouges at once! The absolute most tankiest barbarian I’ve ever seen.
Rats > Everything else 🐀
Hey bro so sorc is actually one of the tankiest classes in the game. The problem is no one builds like that. 😢Also another note blizzard fire enchant is meta. If you stun or immobilize they are ded you ain't surviving that
Why does necro only get 2 stars for survivability? We're almost on par with barbs and druids, easy 4 stars.
In duels where there are no mobs, necros are quite vulnerable outside of blood mist.
@@Nihjanix That wasn't my experience. The lack of healing outside of blood orbs is quite annoying but you can make do if you get creative. A lot more gear dependent than druid or barb but still much better than rogue or sorc.
@@anitaremenarova6662 Survivability includes not only health but also invulnerability and unstoppables. Sorcs have more cool downs than necros hence why I see them as even. Rogues can heal off their attacks and also have naturally high dodge chance. My thinking is of who would survive the longest standing still and using their cooldowns against a well geared barb for example. That's my take on it but I see your points as well.
@@Nihjanix Neither of them have fortify though, also no shield that has 3 extra DR slots compared to other classes. Dodge isn't really relevant considering any dangerous damage (dot) completely bypasses it. I'm currently working on a thorns necro so I made her especially tanky since I have to stay out of blood mist most of the time.
@@anitaremenarova6662 Well for the video I considered the top builds like blood mist which runs a focus, and bone spear which often runs a two-hand weapon. Of course a shield will make you tankier but a cost of damage and cooldowns.
I think my (100)(Seasonal)Blizz Sorc can kill any Arc or Fire sorc. I also think i can beat any physical rogue (not poison). I could be wrong, if any1 wana add and do some friendly duels im down :-)
I based my observations on tournament results. You may not be wrong, but I imagine you have a hard time against top barbs and poison rogues, which firewall sorcs stand a better chance against.
Blizz Sorc kill any Fire sorc?? - LOL))) i'm fire sorc ( the build is average) go pvp
with FW sorc u have same sutiation as posion rogue. one invulnerability and a single touch of flame shield and you have burning on you that deals ~9k damage a tick (basically dead). You dont even need a firewall to kill a non tanky character, flame shield is enough.
No one gatekeeps harder than a poison rogue
Why am I not S Tier? You have some explaining to do.
Haha, firewall is S Tier. You are S+.
poison rogue will be always be number 1 as the devs said, resistance is kinda broken and not working
Sorcs have been consistently doing well in organized tournaments ever since the firewall build came out. First place sorc finishes are not out of the ordinary.
yes but poison rogues plaguing the open world pvp, have you met the monsters rogue poison roaming the pvp area in Asian server? I played Double Swing Barb with the cheese stun heart, can,t win on the poison rogue rapid fire, its insane when you encounter them, i can take on the firewall sorc, necros, some barbs, some druids, some TB poison rogue but not the rapidd fire poison rogue, super fast tick of death and their untouchable@@Nihjanix
Shadowwave necro here. It is nearly impossible to beat exploit barbs and rouges. I hope blizzard will ban for abusing bugs fast🤷
I doubt there will be bans, hopefully blizzard can just fix the dang exploits already.
What is the exploit?
Barb stun bug… :( even sorcs have it. Last for 5 secs :(
@@503pinoylife Isn't that just how the game is supposed to work? With enough CC duration affixes and aspects you can make stuns last 5 seconds or even longer.
@@anitaremenarova6662 There is a bug with the calculated heart that applies a stun through damage overtime effects, and refreshes throughout the whole duration with every tick of damage. And the stun doesn't turn off from damage over time, meaning you don't have to spend resources to get it back. This is not an intended effect. On barbs who can bleed you from thorns, it means you are perma stunned when you damage them.