Not to make this a competition or anything… but thanks to Mr. Studebaker, I completed this repair in about 43 minutes. Thank you very much for this video, John! Wonderful job!
This video is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much. As a minimalist van camper the DVD player was unnecessary and not having the top console gave me more freedom of movement in a small space.
Thank you so much for filming and sharing this "adventure " of yours! I want to remove the entire consol perminatly. Now i know where the 2 extra hidden screws are!
Thanks John, followed your steps to the T and it worked great. By following in your steps I was able to get it fixed in around 2 hours. Thank you so much, my youngest son is autistic and the TV DVD player is a life saver for my wife and I.
Thank u so much John. So easy to follow. I am a 40 yr mom with 3 kids 3 and under and we needed our DVD player back. I watched, and paused and rewatched all steps. All I need now is my replacement cable ribbon.😮
My man here just saved me so much time. I think total time was less than a half hour fix. Surprise screw would have been the death of me. Thank you for showing everyone how to do this. Super simple after watching this.
2013 Chrysler town and country here. This was pretty much spot on. Only recommendation I have is check your ves cable you are replacing to ensure you get the right ribbon (it will have branding info on the ves ribbon). I bought mine prior to doing this and my ribbon cable was a 1/2 inch short from connecting to both ports. I bought the correct one and the video works now. Thank you for posting this video this helped me out greatly!
Thank you so much for making this video. This is exactly what I needed to do in order to get the DVD player to work in my 2016 Town and Country. My four kiddos thank you the most as now they have a DVD player right before our family vacation.
Thanks so much for this guide! I was able to get it knocked out in a little over an hour today! I found out you really only need to remove the screw and bolt at either end under the caps to remove the entire console. No other screws are necessary to pull it down. The hardest part was taking apart the DVD player for sure. Thanks for the location of the hidden screw and on the tip for opening up the case of the DVD screen!
I appreciate you taking the time to do this video. I spent maybe 2 hours changing that cable with no surprises. Now my mom can entertain my daughter on trips again. Great job.
I want to express the same sentiment. Seeing how you thought through and tackled all of the little problems involved was so helpful. You likely saved me hours of frustration, especially with the realization of the stickers covering the screw!
Thank you!! This fixed our 2014 Town and Country! The screen had been black for a couple of years, and I decided to try to fix it myself before vacation. Definitely couldn’t have figured it out on my own! I really appreciated the video!
This saved me 850 dollars that the dealership wanted to charge me. I have a dodge caravan 2016, the clips holding it had an ac controller also. So I had to do a little work getting through all of that but once off I followed along the rest of the way. Thank you again for taking the time to post a fix! You’re the man!
Thank you for the video. I completed this job today - just a small tip; I left the console attached at the rear and hung the front of the console down. I supported the front while I reached up and removed the tv screen. Job was completed in an hour and a half thanks to your video!
I had to complete the job again after an aftermarket ribbon cable failed. This time I purchased an OEM cable. The job took 45 minutes. I still left the rear console section attached, dropped the front section down and supported it and reached over the front console to remove the tv. Once the front console section is hanging down, you can disconnect all the wiring harnesses and reach all the torx bolts holding it in from the topside.
Thank you, it took me 3.5 hrs total start to finish! Your video really highlighted the correct areas to safely apply pressure. This was crucial in removing the entire center console, and prying the monitor to expose the ribbon cable. This would’ve taken me an entire weekend without your guide, and I likely would’ve broke some plastic.
Thank you so much for making this video! Our dvd player went out & my 2 year old was not understanding why he couldn't watch his movies anymore...I was able to get it fixed on my own, & only needed assistance to remove the large piece, due to the stubborn pegs!
Fixed our 2016 Dodge Grand Caravan with this video! I got the cables from Amazon (2 Pack HD VES TV Screen Repair Ribbon Cable Replacement for Dodge Chrysler Town Country 2013-2018). Thanks for doing the leg work!
This was a lifesaver.. It made my repair very easy. The dealership wanted to replace the whole console for $750. That was crazy. The ribbon was only $28.00 on amazon. Thanks
Thanks for the tutorial! You helped me do this for my 2014 Routan. I may have figured out where your extra screws went, I ended up with two extra also but then found the holes later.
2 years later and a useful video. I did have to use a pry bar to get it from the plastic anchors but I got it down. I did notice I had a wire in one of the connectors that was bare looking. I went ahead and inspected it was pushed in all the way and put electrical tape. Might as well check everything while it is down.
Can’t thank you enough for the video. It was a great help. The ribbon was not the issue in my case I guess the monitor went bad, but it made things much easier after ordering a used monitor to replace it, we’re back in business now.
YOU ARE A GOD SEND JOHN!!!!! Thank you for this video! I have the same exact problem and was worried about doing it myself but due to your video I was able to fix it!!!! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Watching your method was a mirror of my own down to the kids popping in from time to time. I got stumped at the 4 pins that held everything up too. It was then that I came across your video. Was good to watch someonelse taking the inital risk of breaking their stuff to give me the confidences to do the same. You ended up with 2 extra screws while I lost those 2 same screws. They are for the back compartment where a second monitor would go.
have a 2014 Town and country van. All the lights on the dash are lighten, and go out, and come back on ever so often. The windshield wipers come on and don't shut of, so I pull the fuse. It's say the Blind spot system needs to looked at. I took of the bumper and took a closer look. Connections were dirty, and the moguls were in good shape. So I cleaned up the bumper, and all the tape to hold the wiers up out of the rain. Blinkers work most of the time. Still don't know where the lose wire might be. Each connection I find and can get to I clean it out and put some electrical grease in the connections.
Thank you Soooo Much!!! I can't wait to start tearing into mine. (Ha Ha...) But yeah I live in Iowa but my family and I travel to Washington State and our went out last year. Now I know how to fix it. Thanks buddy. And your camera man and little helper did a great job also!
I believe our 2016 Town & Country DVD screen is on its last leg. It will sometimes turn on when we open it to just the right angle. But sometimes it just stays black no matter how we adjust it. Very frustrating. Definitely a design flaw among countless others seeing how many owners are experiencing similar issues. Our van's AC, window motor and regulator, door lock motors, and transmission have all failed or are failing. Although it would be pretty cool to fix this next issue in my own, not sure if I should even put more $ and effort into repairing things as it falls apart bit by bit, or if I should just cut my losses and get something for it while I still can. Sure as heck never touching another Chrysler again.
Great video- it worked!!!! One thing I’ll say is when your ordering the ribbon get it from Amazon and before you order look at the circuit board where the ribbon is disconnected/ connected for the number 34 or 68 …. I believe the models 2013 and later are 68 and that’s a different ribbon that is used…
THANK YOU SO SO MUCH. I DONT HOW YOU ENDED UP WITH EXTRA SCREWS BUT MINE WAS JUST EXACT. TOOK ME 1.5 HOURS OR LESS TO DO EVERYTHING. AGAIN, THANK YOU SO SO MUCH.
This was a life saver and very well done!! Love the commentary and humor! Thanks to your video and watching it twice before I tried to do it, this took me less than 3 hours!!
Thank you for this! My TV went out and I need to get it fixed since we spend a lot of time sitting in the parking lot during quarantine as mom does the shopping! Thanks!
Thank you so much for sharing your Trial-and-error as well as success with us the rest of us Trying to figure this out! I don't know what prices doing but in your video you said you had to use a 10 mm to get the DVD screen bolts out another video use an 8 mm and I had to use a 7 mm!!
Wow, thank you so much for this video. The removal/install looks horrible. I'm going to try to find out how much local shops are charging. Mine actually has 2 screens, and both are now out.
You save me a lot of money.. I bought the ribbon cable on eBay for 20 plus delivery 5, it was not the exact number of the original but it works fine... thanks
Your video was very helpful. My van has the full length console as well, but with dual screens. I am hoping that the mounting is similar. Enjoyed watching!
Thank you thank you! I knew there was a way to do it myself but was stumped with the 4 little buggers! A good yank and a bump on the brain bucket and it was down!
Thanks so much for the video. Now I don’t have to listen to all the whinging on long trips. Took me 2 hrs the first time and 1 hr the second time. Word to the wise make sure you put your ribbon in the right way up the first time 🤦
I was hoping to see what it looked like with that console removed. I have turned mine into a camper and was hoping to just remove it for extra head room. I am worried about the wiring and if it controls anything else but the console tv and lights.
Was your screen not turning on? Is that what the ribbon cable fix was for? Our sound and everything works, but monitor doesn’t turn on. It blinks every now and then, but that’s it.
Thank you for the video! Made the job as easy as it could be. However, after completing, it didn't fix the issue. Any ideas as to what I should look into next?
Do you happen to know if all of the pins from the main black harness go to the second or third video player? My harness is missing half of the wires, but I'm hoping to add a screen without the auxiliary video input and only use the DVD in the front dash.
great video, very useful, I'll save it in case one day I have to repair it, even though we hardly use it anymore, I'd be interested in changing the screens for more modern ones, do you know if it's possible? Has anyone done it? maybe it's failing and that's why they look so bad. Thank you for taking the time to upload this video. Cheers
You might try adjusting the brightness. That makes a big difference. The screens do look bad in daylight when the brightness is turned down low. I don't think it would be a simple thing to swap out for an upgraded screen (like HD), but if you decide to try it you should post a video!
OMG thank you for taking off the overhead console!! Please help. I installed 5 cab lights on the roof of my 2014 caravan. Usually in my other vans I would run a positive wire(Screw from the cab lights provided ground.) ALL THE WAY from under the dash and wiggle it up the headliner and find it under the dome console. Then wire up my cab lights. BUT in your awesome video I see wires!!! Hot wires right??? In your video each dome light has a connector. With two red wires and one gray wire. Can I connect my cab lights to the RED for POSITIVE and GRAY for NEGATIVE?? And I presume they will be on ALL THE TIME right? So I can install an overhead TOGGLE switch in either the red or gray wire?? Thank you.
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Not to make this a competition or anything… but thanks to Mr. Studebaker, I completed this repair in about 43 minutes. Thank you very much for this video, John! Wonderful job!
This video is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much. As a minimalist van camper the DVD player was unnecessary and not having the top console gave me more freedom of movement in a small space.
This is why I wanna take mine out too, plus I'm tired of bonking my head on it!
Do it! You'll be glad you did.
Your effort and work just saved the Midwest family!!!
Thank you for the video!
The star screws are Torx T20 for anyone wondering.
Thank you! Our DVD is alive again because of you!
Thank you so much for filming and sharing this "adventure " of yours! I want to remove the entire consol perminatly. Now i know where the 2 extra hidden screws are!
Thanks John, followed your steps to the T and it worked great. By following in your steps I was able to get it fixed in around 2 hours. Thank you so much, my youngest son is autistic and the TV DVD player is a life saver for my wife and I.
Thank u so much John. So easy to follow. I am a 40 yr mom with 3 kids 3 and under and we needed our DVD player back. I watched, and paused and rewatched all steps. All I need now is my replacement cable ribbon.😮
My man here just saved me so much time. I think total time was less than a half hour fix. Surprise screw would have been the death of me. Thank you for showing everyone how to do this. Super simple after watching this.
2013 Chrysler town and country here. This was pretty much spot on. Only recommendation I have is check your ves cable you are replacing to ensure you get the right ribbon (it will have branding info on the ves ribbon). I bought mine prior to doing this and my ribbon cable was a 1/2 inch short from connecting to both ports. I bought the correct one and the video works now. Thank you for posting this video this helped me out greatly!
Thanks for sharing your experience, I’m removing entire entertainment system just to get rid of it 😮
Thanks also apply on 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan
Thank you! I was able to fix my 2012 town & country with this video!
Handsome son! And congratulations on teaching him how things work!
Thank you so much for making this video. This is exactly what I needed to do in order to get the DVD player to work in my 2016 Town and Country. My four kiddos thank you the most as now they have a DVD player right before our family vacation.
Thank you for pioneering Town & Country.this video! I'm going to attempt this on my wife's 2014
Thanks so much for this guide! I was able to get it knocked out in a little over an hour today! I found out you really only need to remove the screw and bolt at either end under the caps to remove the entire console. No other screws are necessary to pull it down. The hardest part was taking apart the DVD player for sure. Thanks for the location of the hidden screw and on the tip for opening up the case of the DVD screen!
I appreciate you taking the time to do this video. I spent maybe 2 hours changing that cable with no surprises. Now my mom can entertain my daughter on trips again. Great job.
I want to express the same sentiment. Seeing how you thought through and tackled all of the little problems involved was so helpful. You likely saved me hours of frustration, especially with the realization of the stickers covering the screw!
Thank you!! This fixed our 2014 Town and Country! The screen had been black for a couple of years, and I decided to try to fix it myself before vacation. Definitely couldn’t have figured it out on my own! I really appreciated the video!
Was it the ribbon replacement that fixed it? If so would you happen to have the ribbon link or all the ribbons the same?
Saved me with this walk through! I had all the tools and the know-how, got it done in an hour!!
This saved me 850 dollars that the dealership wanted to charge me. I have a dodge caravan 2016, the clips holding it had an ac controller also. So I had to do a little work getting through all of that but once off I followed along the rest of the way. Thank you again for taking the time to post a fix! You’re the man!
Thank you for the video. I completed this job today - just a small tip; I left the console attached at the rear and hung the front of the console down. I supported the front while I reached up and removed the tv screen. Job was completed in an hour and a half thanks to your video!
How did you reach up in there to remove it with the back still attached?
I had to complete the job again after an aftermarket ribbon cable failed. This time I purchased an OEM cable. The job took 45 minutes. I still left the rear console section attached, dropped the front section down and supported it and reached over the front console to remove the tv. Once the front console section is hanging down, you can disconnect all the wiring harnesses and reach all the torx bolts holding it in from the topside.
Thank you, it took me 3.5 hrs total start to finish! Your video really highlighted the correct areas to safely apply pressure. This was crucial in removing the entire center console, and prying the monitor to expose the ribbon cable. This would’ve taken me an entire weekend without your guide, and I likely would’ve broke some plastic.
Missing the 10mm huh you don’t say. Thanks for the video my monitor stopped working and we’re headed to Florida tomorrow...guess we’re singing songs
Thank you! I’ve been searching to find a video taking this out, I have the same van but doing camper remodel
This was a great help! I got the VES working on my 2014 Town and Country and saved hundreds thanks to this video! Thanks!!
Thank you so much for making this video! Our dvd player went out & my 2 year old was not understanding why he couldn't watch his movies anymore...I was able to get it fixed on my own, & only needed assistance to remove the large piece, due to the stubborn pegs!
Thank you. I got mine fixed watching your video.
Just did mine today, only took me an hour and that's only because I watched your video. Thanks so.much for sharing it.
Fixed our 2016 Dodge Grand Caravan with this video! I got the cables from Amazon (2 Pack HD VES TV Screen Repair Ribbon Cable Replacement for Dodge Chrysler Town Country 2013-2018). Thanks for doing the leg work!
This was a lifesaver.. It made my repair very easy. The dealership wanted to replace the whole console for $750. That was crazy. The ribbon was only $28.00 on amazon. Thanks
Do you happen to have the Amazon link to the ribbon you used? Or all ribbons for this model basically the same?
Thanks for the tutorial! You helped me do this for my 2014 Routan. I may have figured out where your extra screws went, I ended up with two extra also but then found the holes later.
Thank you for your video, I was able to fixed our 2016 Grand Caravan TV. Perfect timing before our Disneyland trip. 👍👍👍
Thanks man. I spent 45 min trying to figure out that a label covered a screw too. Saved me
Thank you, dear sir. That hidden screw under a bar-code label had me stuck for a little while.
2 years later and a useful video. I did have to use a pry bar to get it from the plastic anchors but I got it down.
I did notice I had a wire in one of the connectors that was bare looking. I went ahead and inspected it was pushed in all the way and put electrical tape. Might as well check everything while it is down.
Thank you so much. This worked like a charm on my 2014 Town and Country. Couldn't have done it without you, and saved lots of money.
Im about to do my 2014 town and country.. yikes, im nervous. any tips!?! haha Im very handy but it looks like alot of cables/wiring.
Took my an hour an a half, but this video was the most valuable thing online to help me do it. Thank you so much!
What kind of van
@@shanicethompson5648 2015 town and country
Can’t thank you enough for the video. It was a great help. The ribbon was not the issue in my case I guess the monitor went bad, but it made things much easier after ordering a used monitor to replace it, we’re back in business now.
YOU ARE A GOD SEND JOHN!!!!! Thank you for this video! I have the same exact problem and was worried about doing it myself but due to your video I was able to fix it!!!! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Here’s my video I posted of me fixing our van:
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Watching your method was a mirror of my own down to the kids popping in from time to time. I got stumped at the 4 pins that held everything up too. It was then that I came across your video. Was good to watch someonelse taking the inital risk of breaking their stuff to give me the confidences to do the same. You ended up with 2 extra screws while I lost those 2 same screws. They are for the back compartment where a second monitor would go.
John you are the man! I fixed my VES because of this. Thank you buddy
have a 2014 Town and country van. All the lights on the dash are lighten, and go out, and come back on ever so often. The windshield wipers come on and don't shut of, so I pull the fuse. It's say the Blind spot system needs to looked at. I took of the bumper and took a closer look. Connections were dirty, and the moguls were in good shape. So I cleaned up the bumper, and all the tape to hold the wiers up out of the rain. Blinkers work most of the time. Still don't know where the lose wire might be. Each connection I find and can get to I clean it out and put some electrical grease in the connections.
Thank you Soooo Much!!! I can't wait to start tearing into mine. (Ha Ha...) But yeah I live in Iowa but my family and I travel to Washington State and our went out last year. Now I know how to fix it. Thanks buddy. And your camera man and little helper did a great job also!
Thanks for the video saved us tons of time! God bless you 🙏🏽
Lol your screws decided to have babies😂😂
I believe our 2016 Town & Country DVD screen is on its last leg. It will sometimes turn on when we open it to just the right angle. But sometimes it just stays black no matter how we adjust it. Very frustrating. Definitely a design flaw among countless others seeing how many owners are experiencing similar issues. Our van's AC, window motor and regulator, door lock motors, and transmission have all failed or are failing. Although it would be pretty cool to fix this next issue in my own, not sure if I should even put more $ and effort into repairing things as it falls apart bit by bit, or if I should just cut my losses and get something for it while I still can. Sure as heck never touching another Chrysler again.
Great video- it worked!!!!
One thing I’ll say is when your ordering the ribbon get it from Amazon and before you order look at the circuit board where the ribbon is disconnected/ connected for the number 34 or 68 …. I believe the models 2013 and later are 68 and that’s a different ribbon that is used…
Thank you so much for this video, I couldn’t find anything on this model either and this helped a ton repairing our DVD player!!!
You literally saved our family road trip!
Worked great, couldn't have done it without your video. Thank you!
Thank you very much. I followed your instructions and I could fix mine. This video was a blessing
THANK YOU SO SO MUCH. I DONT HOW YOU ENDED UP WITH EXTRA SCREWS BUT MINE WAS JUST EXACT. TOOK ME 1.5 HOURS OR LESS TO DO EVERYTHING. AGAIN, THANK YOU SO SO MUCH.
You saved me! But I did giggle at.....I spent 45 mins and couldnt get this sob apart, lmbo I felt this way before the panel even came from the roof.
Legit. Your video was the best one I found. Perfect walk thru.
Thank you for this video! I was able to fix/replace the VES ribbon cable in my 2013 Chrysler Town & Country. Saved a ton!
This was a life saver and very well done!! Love the commentary and humor! Thanks to your video and watching it twice before I tried to do it, this took me less than 3 hours!!
Thank you so much for doing this! You saved me so much time by showing us how to do this!
Thank you for this! My TV went out and I need to get it fixed since we spend a lot of time sitting in the parking lot during quarantine as mom does the shopping! Thanks!
Excellent Video & Job! I wish My Kids Were here with Be Assisting!🥰👍😉
You Save me a Ton of Time with That Screw behind the LABELS!!🥳
Thank you so much for sharing your Trial-and-error as well as success with us the rest of us Trying to figure this out! I don't know what prices doing but in your video you said you had to use a 10 mm to get the DVD screen bolts out another video use an 8 mm and I had to use a 7 mm!!
The main bolts in the front and rear brackets are 10 mm. The smaller hex in the DVD screen compartment and rear holder area are 7mm.
Wow, thank you so much for this video. The removal/install looks horrible. I'm going to try to find out how much local shops are charging. Mine actually has 2 screens, and both are now out.
Thankful for the video. Don’t know if I would have ever figured out how to get the console down with you sharing about those four clips in the center.
Big help thanks. Had the same issues with more screws under the sticker and getting the unit out of the car. Thanks!!!
You save me a lot of money.. I bought the ribbon cable on eBay for 20 plus delivery 5, it was not the exact number of the original but it works fine... thanks
Where did you get the ribbon cable from?
Thank you so much for going through the headache for the rest of us. Glad I'm not the only one, great video, thanks for the help!
I want to say that this video is a LIFESAVER! Thank you for this!
Your video was very helpful. My van has the full length console as well, but with dual screens. I am hoping that the mounting is similar.
Enjoyed watching!
I meant to like this sooner. This video saved me so much time.
Great video! Thanks a bunch. We were able to fix our TV in less than an hr.
Thank you thank you! I knew there was a way to do it myself but was stumped with the 4 little buggers! A good yank and a bump on the brain bucket and it was down!
Thank you so much for doing this video, I'm getting ready to do the same thing on my 2010 Town & country👍👍
After watching this I have 2 screws loose hope I never have to complete this fix fingers crossed 🤞
Thank you so much, my daughter appreciate it.😅
Thank You for uploading this. I could not find this anywere. 👍
Thanks so much God bless you and your kid
All right good video I appreciate you going over big help
Thanks so much for the video. Now I don’t have to listen to all the whinging on long trips. Took me 2 hrs the first time and 1 hr the second time. Word to the wise make sure you put your ribbon in the right way up the first time 🤦
Thank you ! I feel like a just caught a TD in the Super Bowl!!! LOL
Fantastic! Made my 2012 T&C much easier to fix!
Thank you! This was very helpful. Got mine working again.
I was hoping to see what it looked like with that console removed. I have turned mine into a camper and was hoping to just remove it for extra head room. I am worried about the wiring and if it controls anything else but the console tv and lights.
I'm curious about that too, if I do mine I'll add some pics if possible
Was your screen not turning on? Is that what the ribbon cable fix was for? Our sound and everything works, but monitor doesn’t turn on. It blinks every now and then, but that’s it.
omg!! thank you for sharing this helped me so much!
Thank you helped with 2008 dodge grand caravan
Thank you for the video! Made the job as easy as it could be. However, after completing, it didn't fix the issue. Any ideas as to what I should look into next?
Which cable did your van need, the 32 or 64 pin ribbon? And where did you get it?
Thank you
Good job
i watched 8.45 of this video without auto and he didnt show him taking the dvd rack off im so sad by this lmso
Do you happen to know if all of the pins from the main black harness go to the second or third video player? My harness is missing half of the wires, but I'm hoping to add a screen without the auxiliary video input and only use the DVD in the front dash.
My extra holes were in the final drop down bin. There were two bolts and two screws that went there.
Thank you for minimizing my struggles 😂
Thank you I will be trying this as soon I I order a new cable
great video, very useful, I'll save it in case one day I have to repair it, even though we hardly use it anymore, I'd be interested in changing the screens for more modern ones, do you know if it's possible? Has anyone done it? maybe it's failing and that's why they look so bad. Thank you for taking the time to upload this video. Cheers
You might try adjusting the brightness. That makes a big difference. The screens do look bad in daylight when the brightness is turned down low. I don't think it would be a simple thing to swap out for an upgraded screen (like HD), but if you decide to try it you should post a video!
Thanks for the information. The ribbon didn’t fix mine though.
Wow nice job. Its all i need...try to fix ours now..
Thank you so much for this video! Life saver.
OMG thank you for taking off the overhead console!! Please help. I installed 5 cab lights on the roof of my 2014 caravan. Usually in my other vans I would run a positive wire(Screw from the cab lights provided ground.) ALL THE WAY from under the dash and wiggle it up the headliner and find it under the dome console. Then wire up my cab lights. BUT in your awesome video I see wires!!! Hot wires right??? In your video each dome light has a connector. With two red wires and one gray wire. Can I connect my cab lights to the RED for POSITIVE and GRAY for NEGATIVE?? And I presume they will be on ALL THE TIME right? So I can install an overhead TOGGLE switch in either the red or gray wire?? Thank you.