Martin Scorsese, "My search for Jesus continues..." in conversation with Antonio Spadaro

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  • "I responded to the Pope's appeal to artists in the only way I know how: by imagining and writing a script for a film about Jesus. And I am about to start making it."
    Those are Martin Scorsese's own words, at the event organised by Georgetown University and La Civiltà Cattolica, prompted by questions from the director of the Jesuit journal, Fr. Antonio Spadaro SJ. The conversation between the two was in-depth and direct. Scorsese, making references to his films and sharing personal stories, explained how Pope Francis' call "show us Jesus" moved him (read also: www.laciviltacattolica.com/a-....
    Talking about cinema, he spoke of his admiration for the immediacy of Jesus in Pasolini's "The Gospel according to St. Matthew", of the significance of "The Last Temptation of Christ" and of the next step in his own research on the figure of Jesus in the making of "Silence". Towards the end, the dialogue became increasingly personal: Scorsese spoke about his experience of Grace and mercy, and the presence of violence in his life as well as in his films.

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  • @byWilliamJMeyer
    @byWilliamJMeyer Рік тому +10

    Hello-- thank you for this conversation. Around 17:00 minutes I think Fr. Spadaro says Scorsese's script has been posted on the La Civiltà Cattolica website? However, I am having trouble locating this document-- could you perhaps add a direct link in the video description to help guide us? Thank you.

    • @civcatt
      @civcatt  Рік тому +5

      Yes. You can read it here www.laciviltacattolica.com/a-divine-plot/

    • @byWilliamJMeyer
      @byWilliamJMeyer Рік тому +3

      @@civcatt Thank you.

    • @sahararussel5436
      @sahararussel5436 Рік тому +1

      😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

    • @zachc.4042
      @zachc.4042 11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for the link. So, it looks like it's a short documentary and not a narrative feature as the news articles seem to imply. Looking forward to it though!

  • @thomassimmons1950
    @thomassimmons1950 Рік тому +21

    As a student of Scorcese, I've thought for years, that all his best films are stories of failed Christs.
    From Taxi Driver, to Mean Streets, to King of Comedy, Raging Bull and beyond; this theme became an epiphany for me after Last Temptation. His wisdom and artistry has been a balm in Gilead for me.
    Thank you for this, and...
    Vaya con Dios!!!

    • @Bicicletasaladas
      @Bicicletasaladas Рік тому +3

      And the Old Testament is full of stories of people not fully realising the type of our Lord Jesus Christ. The binding of Isaac as a shadow of Jesus' sacrifice (Isaac wasn't a child but a man of 26 y/o), Joseph, Moses, Samson... You are right that Scorsese continues this with some of his characters. Blessings!

    • @thomassimmons1950
      @thomassimmons1950 Рік тому +1

      @@Bicicletasaladas Back atcha!

  • @focuspulling
    @focuspulling Рік тому +14

    Such a great interview! I'm really looking forward to his next exploration of the life of Jesus. And the analogy to Walt Whitman's poetry, "I contain multitudes," really hits home!

  • @MrRanaboldo
    @MrRanaboldo Рік тому +13

    Thank you, Antonio Spadaro, for this conversation, a true “master class”: and one that every New Yorker, every reader of serious literature, every film buff and young film maker - and surely every Christian! - should love. :)

  • @hopaideia
    @hopaideia Рік тому +8

    In the daily forge, with the Grace of God, overcoming our fallen nature.

  • @jansproull9206
    @jansproull9206 9 місяців тому +5

    As a film, Scorsese's Silence gets better with every re-watch! In this UA-cam he speaks eloquently as a director and Jesus follower about the immediacy of Christ and the tests we all face in our daily relationships for accessing the presence of infinite love and acting accordingly. As I'd summarize it, "soul school" --- not precisely a Catholic doctrine but true nonetheless.
    When my daughter during high school went on weekends to a big urban R.C. Life Teen --- we're not Catholic but the cute boys were there from all the parochial schools, so three proms --- they paraphrased a great song: "We want to be lambs that roar, we want to be eagles that soar, we want to be truth, we want to be life, we want to be Jesus to the world." (The teens changed "need" to "want," also "salt" and "light" to "truth" and "life." Or maybe I just remember it that way because it better fits my experience of Jesus🥰) Really looking forward to Scorsese's KOTFM (the book's profoundly moving), followed by this upcoming Jesus film from the directorial master of our time.

  • @jcjs33
    @jcjs33 Рік тому +6

    grace gives harmony and wisdom to a grateful spirit renewing itself on goodwill extended...OMski

  • @AyoOdimayo
    @AyoOdimayo 8 місяців тому +6

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:00 🎙️ The conversation begins with Martin Scorsese reflecting on Pope Francis' recent speech and his unique approach.
    01:21 🌍 Martin Scorsese emphasizes that the audience for this discussion consists of poets, writers, and creative individuals from various parts of the world, not journalists.
    04:06 📚 Scorsese shares his background and the impact of a priest, Father Francis Principe, who influenced his early life and love for storytelling.
    08:13 🌆 Scorsese describes his upbringing in a challenging New York neighborhood and the strong influence of his family's values.
    14:10 🎓 Scorsese discusses his educational journey, from Cathedral College to New York University, and the realization that being a priest wasn't his calling.
    16:18 📽️ Scorsese talks about his early passion for cinema and storytelling, explaining the significance of images and stories in his life.
    19:52 🎥 Scorsese recalls his desire to make a film about Jesus in the 1960s and how seeing Pasolini's "The Gospel According to Matthew" influenced his approach.
    23:29 💬 Scorsese explains the meaning behind his film "The Last Temptation of Christ" and how it aimed to present a more relatable and human Jesus to the audience.
    26:34 🕊️ Jesus, as depicted in the Bible, associated with people who were considered outcasts, like tax collectors and prostitutes.
    27:31 📽️ Martin Scorsese aimed to portray a Jesus who resonated with those struggling with addiction and despair, as seen in "The Last Temptation of Christ."
    28:29 🎬 Martin Scorsese's film "Silence" was a continuation of his exploration of Jesus but faced difficulties and delays.
    30:05 🙏 The film "Silence" prompted a journey of understanding, with Scorsese attempting to grasp the complexities of faith, culture, and humanity.
    32:42 📝 The making of "Silence" was a lengthy and challenging process, involving various producers and script revisions.
    35:47 🇹🇼 The filming of "Silence" in Taiwan was a demanding experience, but it had a significant impact on the entire crew.
    37:28 🤔 Martin Scorsese doesn't entirely agree with the idea that denying God can lead to becoming a true Christian, emphasizing the importance of embracing the mystery.
    41:09 💥 Martin Scorsese discusses the depiction of violence in his films, connecting it to the human condition and the need to understand and confront it.
    44:45 🙌 Scorsese believes that we must acknowledge our capacity for violence and work to overcome it instead of distancing ourselves from it.
    49:19 🙏 The transubstantiation in church should resonate in the streets and homes, leading to personal responsibility and change.
    50:55 🤔 Martin Scorsese shares a story about an older man who prayed for strength to steal more, reflecting the desperation of some people in life.
    51:26 ⚖️ Scorsese emphasizes the importance of the laity outside the church to engage with concepts of justice and mercy, questioning why mercy shouldn't come before justice.
    52:57 🙏 Scorsese discusses how rejection and denial in his life were forms of grace, giving him the opportunity to start anew and sharing a profound experience of resurrection.
    56:39 📽️ Scorsese links his films like Mean Streets, Raging Bull, Casino, and more to his exploration of themes involving love, violence, and the depth of understanding of humanity.
    58:45 🌟 Scorsese emphasizes that his films aren't just about gangsters, but they explore the complexity of human nature and dismissive judgments about a swath of humanity.
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  • @psithurism241
    @psithurism241 Рік тому +2

    10X so much for the up.

  • @MarcoSilesio
    @MarcoSilesio 8 місяців тому +1

    great

  • @jcjs33
    @jcjs33 Рік тому +1

    i go with 'blessing to be rejected and despised but not 'grace to be rejected and despised'...in a way if i express and another person has a 'strong intense response such as anger , or laughter or crying , then , the expression from myself gave them an orgasm in the form of anger, laughter or crying etc...blessing to be...and blessing to be x y or z...OMski

  • @savedbygrace8337
    @savedbygrace8337 Рік тому +5

    Matthew 15:9
    “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men

  • @daniele.dagostino
    @daniele.dagostino Рік тому +2

    Sottotitoli in italiano?

    • @civcatt
      @civcatt  Рік тому +3

      sono in lavorazione. Grazie della pazienza!

  • @thumbprintn2413
    @thumbprintn2413 8 місяців тому +1

    tuff crowd

  • @tishkerrville8942
    @tishkerrville8942 8 місяців тому +2

    That priest is 👿

  • @chrisobrien6254
    @chrisobrien6254 9 місяців тому +10

    I wonder what Jesus would think of “The Wolf Of Wall Street”, “Good Fellas”, and “Taxi Driver”😂😂😂 More like Jesus is searching for Scorsese 😂

    • @michaelleyvas3935
      @michaelleyvas3935 3 місяці тому +1

      There's no cinematic way those films could be told any other way

    • @chrisobrien6254
      @chrisobrien6254 3 місяці тому

      @@michaelleyvas3935 that’s totally fair. I was half kidding I guess, but it’s interesting that almost all of his films contain intense vulgarity, violence and sex content, yet he claims to be “searching for Jesus”. I think he may need to look a little harder 🤪

    • @ignatiusjackson235
      @ignatiusjackson235 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@chrisobrien6254 Real life contains a lot of "intense vulgarity, violence, and sex content." So too does the Bible. I suggest you read it sometime.

    • @chrisobrien6254
      @chrisobrien6254 2 місяці тому

      @@ignatiusjackson235 yeah I understand that, I really do. But it just seems to me that he has had a lot of unnecessary sex and vulgarity in his movies, such as “Wolf of Wallstreet”. I just don’t think we needed to see all those sex scenes in that film

    • @ignatiusjackson235
      @ignatiusjackson235 2 місяці тому

      ​@@chrisobrien6254 If it's not for you, then it's not for you. The essential theme of The Wolf of Wall Street is, much like that of Goodfellas, to explore the motivations of the main character(s) and thus realize why somebody would be drawn to that sinful existence. If you fail to present the allure of that lifestyle, then everything falls apart and you'll never be able to drag anybody back over the line, so to speak. All the films of Martin Scorsese "smell like the sheep." Is there a danger in that? Possibly. Do people have impure thoughts to Michelangelo's work on the ceiling of the Sistene Chapel? I bet. People are weird. That doesn't strike the grace out of either work. What makes films like Goodfellas and The Wolf of Wall Street so great is that they drag you through the mud in order to show you the result of that type of life. Moreover, particularly in the closing scene of the Wolf of Wall Street, they warn us about how easily we can fall into the trappings of pride.

  • @ivanconnolly7332
    @ivanconnolly7332 11 місяців тому +1

    Glorifying the Mafia is a fast track to Jesus?

    • @sutterkane5716
      @sutterkane5716 10 місяців тому +13

      Those movies dont glorify the mafia, and if you think they do it says far more about you than the movies.

    • @Wilkins325
      @Wilkins325 10 місяців тому +11

      GoodFellas is not at all a glorification of the mafia.

    • @SX1995able
      @SX1995able 8 місяців тому +4

      Pay attention to how all of his mob characters end up beaten,tortured or killed. His whole point is saying these characters are trash and get what they deserve

  • @scooterlibbie
    @scooterlibbie 11 місяців тому +4

    Scorsese good. Christianity bad. Any questions?

    • @michaal105
      @michaal105 11 місяців тому +5

      The exact opposite.

    • @frankcafarella3400
      @frankcafarella3400 11 місяців тому +5

      They're both good. God permeates all light and shadow. The creator is transcendent. Looking into the darkness can bring us closer to the light. In fact, it's necessary.

    • @scooterlibbie
      @scooterlibbie 11 місяців тому +1

      Meh not really

    • @frankcafarella3400
      @frankcafarella3400 11 місяців тому +1

      @@scooterlibbie Very insightful.

    • @Antony72312
      @Antony72312 9 місяців тому +1

      No questions, genius 🥱