From 3D Printed Prototypes to Mass Production in a Factory
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- A video about the bag can be seen at the successfully funded Kickstarter campaign here: • Introducing the paq on...
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If you want to purchase the bag please go to: paqbags.com
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This video is excellent. I'm a technology teacher in a High School and would like to use this video to help guide my students in the 3d printing course I teach.
Please do. :)
Thanks for showing the iterations. This was very interesting to watch.
Great work. I've been helping a friend make a product. Gone through 20 major design changes (even more smaller changes) that would have cost a fortune if we had to make them with injection molding from the start. Even using someone else printing service would cost a pretty penny. He's sent out the product to testers and reviewers so hopefully, we will find out soon if it will become full production product.
Any updates?
I design things and i really understand the issues and is somewhat happy i was not the only one redoing, scrapping, picking up old parts, remake them adjusting redo all of it..and eventually end up with something feasible... this was a very nice video of a successful endup of a very hard work. One thing i lack with a lot of bags is genuine waterproof bags..that is not in need of a plastic bag inside. Even some military grade bahs require plastics as basically you sleep outsides for days in rain and bags are not kept inside tents..and it would be pissing wet without the plastic bags. That creates bulkiness and were not talking about humodity but constant rain proof like a showerhead.
Very cool design Matthew, and a great video! 3D printing shoes myself, and the quick iteration process is a big part of why and how. Good luck with fulfilling orders!
I am a 3D design, Scan Specialist with quite a few ideas up my sleeve. Thanks for your video. This really encouraged me to gwt something done about my ideas.
Thanks buckets for this insight into your emerging enterprise!
The infamous buckle I've been asking about.... It's finally here
Interesting design, hope all goes well good luck!
Great video man. Now this is the kind of stuff that can take this channel to the next level. I almost unsubbed you when you were knocking prusa for using open source designs in their printers. I wish you lots of luck on your backpack venture.
Totally agree Marcel! Very well done, clear, and informative. Got the point across.
I think open source can be used for business if you want. As long you give them the credits. That is the beauty of OS.
Hi DPT
It was an exciting video. Thank you for showing us.
I have to say that it is a really good product you have developed :)
Thanks Matthew. Great to see the development of the buckles and congrats on getting close to full on production. Cheers, JAYTEE
Nice work and well engineered. I wish you all the best. I was thinking so often about those non well engineered stiff snaps and you did it.
Those are spiffy buckles. I would definitely buy a set of those for some maker/cosplay projects.
Cheers for sharing. All the best!!!
That is an awesome bag man! I'd I has the money I'd buy one right now, that snap connector is genius!
Great video, really enjoyed seeing your process.
hobby? it's no longer a hobby when you got a factory. Congrats very happy for you, iam planning making money on my 3d printer here in USA and Colombia.
Dude, you're my fav 3D printing channel. So great!
it's not just a buckle, it changes everything in the comfort and usability!
thanks for the video. very insightful. Subscribed
This was a great video
Great video and product, congrats. Very interesting
Great video, inspired me to keep at it!
pretty much product design details,thanks a lot
Excellent idea! How were you able to find a manufacturer in Vietnam that you trust with your designs and IP. Just asking for a friend....
Whatever you have done my friend it is incredibly inspiring, for decades I've wanted to create something, 3d printing hopefully will allow me to create biomimicry machines to enhance nature to produce clean energy and simply fun things, you have done it and it is great that you describe in detail what you have done, what it takes to get there. So I have questions about how you financed your invention, for example, is there a way to contact you privately? I'm a war veteran, married into the family of the real inventor of the telegraph I just mention it because I know for that very reason that sound can be transmitted through the ground. so I have plenty to research about to develop a product to that end, and many more of my ideas.
I ask you because not many make it up to your level. Thank you
I'm excited for you man
thanks for sharing your story!
Would love to see the molds for your injection molded product. Curious how the get from a 3D print to that.
Love the shirtless dude at 14:36. That sweatshop foreman needs to get his people in line!
I comment probably once in 2 years (im no one special haha) but i have to say this. You sir are very inspirational and cheerful and very informative! Thank you from Australia! All the best for you!
Thank you for sharing. What are you designing now? Another thing is can you explain the differences between open source and other platforms and give recommendations for software that can be used to create your own designs. Please
wow that sounds awesome
Thank you for your informative video. Can you tell us the company you used to have a mold cut, assuming that you had a good experience with them?
Through my contact at the textile factory I was able to negotiate directly with a buckle manufacturer to produce the buckles including mold making.
@@DesignPrototypeTest Thanks!
nice design
I love this!
This is what I want to do.
I assume you had a contact before you went into production.
Do you have partners or doing it solo?
The thing I'm most proud about this project is the fact that It was so unique. I even got a patent. I designed and sewed every stitch on the prototype bag. I did all of it. Nobody can ever tell me I'm not talented. I have proof of achievement. I would feel like a real loser if I had to copy other people's stuff and put my name on it instead of developing it myself. Even if I made a bunch of money doing it this way I would always know deep down that I didn't do it. Imagine how pathetic the underlings serving such a man are. The guy at the top is an unoriginal lowlife and they grovel to him. Obviously they would just be selling their souls for money in such a situation. Talk about a meaningless life.
Anyway, thanks for looking at my entrepreneurial project. It's a shame how incredibly difficult it is to launch a successful business. Don't believe the hype. Your chances of being a successful entrepreneur are incredibly low . Like one in a thousand. Talent appears to have almost nothing to do with it. Survivorship bias fools the guys who won the lottery into thinking they are special when the actual explanation for their success is just dumb luck.
You know what's really funny? Somebody tried to copy everything about my project. Instead of Paq One They called it the PAKT One. You know you've made something good when a group of guys spends like 6 months of their life trying to ape your accomplishment.
where do you get funding for some of these projects?
I mean - you can't just 3d print your way into the Kickstarter.
Wow 10k just for the mold? Are there lower cost molds that can be made in Vietnam or China?
Mold Making is very difficult. The molds must be very accurate, and you must make them from hardened steel. Similar to the stuff they typically make HSS drill bits out of. They can't make the molds and then heat treat them to hard because that would warp and distort them. Therefore, they must be made in the fully hardened state which requires some very knowledgable/experienced CAM operators working on some very expensive CNC machines. There are ways to save money, but longevity of the mold is typically reduced greatly.
May I ask who you used for your injection molding molds? Meanwhile I want one.
I know this is an old video, but my company has a HP Fusion Jet 4200 printer and I think this part out of PA12 GB would be every bit as smooth and as strong as your injection molded part. Plus, we can mass produce and add a teflon coatings to the part. Hit me up if you want to test your future designs on our printer. Great video! Robert@hosecoupling.com
Did you end up using your 3D prototype as a mold for the injection molding? Did it help out with the cost of making the actual mold itself if not? Also how would you compare Thailand to China as far as injection molding services go?
All complex molded designs these days will go through multiple 3D printed design iterations. This has nothing to do with the mold making process, it only proves the design as viable before making the expensive molds. So, it saves you the cost of having to make multiple molds if the part isn't right. FDM (AKA FFF) 3D printing does not help with the mold making process. There are some other additive manufacturing technologies that can directly make molds for limited production runs (10-50 parts), but that is not something available to the home gamer as of yet, and maybe not ever.
Where could we purchase the buckle?
Where you can buy this bag, you can't on Amazon
I removed all my inventory from Amazon. When you went looking for the exact name of my product "Paq bags one" Amazon would display "Do you mean paw bags" and they would not show my bag in the list on any page. I couldn't become a brand on Amazon without a trademark and I couldn't trademark because paq is pronounced like "pack" an you can't trademark something that is "merely descriptive" So I need to change my company name if I ever want to sell on Amazon again. If you actually want a bag (because they are awesome, and one of the best projects of my life) send me an email. I still have some inventory, but I think it is unlikely I will try to relaunch this company unless something changes in the macro environment.
Wont it pinch your thumb, if its under stress when you press push?
It does not. You thumb just slides out with the top half of the buckle.
Why not just use formlab engineer resin for this job instead of traveling all the way to Vietnam and spent 12k dollars for this?
Because I plan on making hundreds of thousands of buckles. Injection molded parts cost pennies, and pop out of the machine every 10-20 seconds. 3D printed parts cost dollars and take hours to make.
hmmm i see. good luck on your kickstarter ! nice bag
There are many ways to do prototyping with injection molding and or thermofoming. i have 27 years as a thermorforming tech. The proto molds are never made from aluminum most start from mdf then to delrin to pull sample shots. They have sample injection molds as do sample thermoformers at low cost to proto type as long as you know what company to goto. The money comes when its time to design the final mold for production.
Dude i want to get a water bottle and cage made for mountain biking, what would you suggest as the first step, do you have a good contact for this kind or prototype
I don't have contact info for you. Sorry. My suggestion is to look up similar products on alibaba, or the alibaba equivalent of Vietnam. Then contact those companies and ask if they would be willing to produce your product. Make sure you are talking to the factory and not a middle man. Middle men tend to take your money and not pass it on to the factory.
Tesla you are not. Great design.
I gave you a thumbs-up. But don't you think it'd be better to manufacture in the USA? You know, labeled 'Made in the USA', right? Thx!
4FunRC Man, I completely agree. I spent three years trying to get production to happen in America. I finally threw in the towel, and the day I went to Vietnam all of my problems were solved. I'm way too small of a fish to be able to fight against the tide of American job loss. In the future once my business is profitable I am hopeful that I can set up some manufacturing over here.
You say too small of a fish well if every small company your size does the same it does have impact on American jobs. This is a problem with cheap labor destroying American jobs. I with you Made in America is expensive and that needs to change but cant with cheap labor working for almost nothing.
not made in the US :(
I know! I spent 3 years trying to get this project off the ground in the U.S. at one point I was partnered up with Rickshaw who partially makes bags in S.F. The ugly truth is that when it comes to sewing of textiles for wearing on the body, the only company really making it happen in America was American Apparel, and now even that company is dying. Most if not all of these "Made in America" textile companies hire immigrants. They either bring Asian women, or folks from Mexico into the U.S. to operate the sewing machines. Then send them back home once their work visas expire. Nobody is willing to pay $350-400 for a bag, and that's what it would cost to have American workers making it here. I wish I could. I'm too small of a fish to fight against that tide. At least I went to Vietnam instead of China right?
Your channel and whole 3d printing / Prusa bashing simply was an advertising for your kickstarter campaign? Wow…
If it was, it sure didn't work. We sold 88 bags on Kickstarter. There is really not a lot of cross-over between people who like to travel, and people who are interested in 3D printing.
No, what it really comes down to is that I didn't make a video for almost a month because I was spending all my time on the bag company. So, I thought I would kill two birds with one stone. The UA-cam algorithm severely punishes you if you don't release videos with some regularity.
I don't understand your indignation. You do understand that Prusa is a company with a large advertising budget, and a rabid fan base. I'm the little guy here. I have less subscribers on my UA-cam Channel than the official Prusa channel. Not to mention the fact that he pretty much controls the all the major 3D printing channels. They don't dare say a bad thing about him or risk the wrath of the horde that I received for speaking the truth. At the Bay Area Maker fair Prusa handed out flyers bragging about shipping 3000 printers per month. They aren't small. They are the dominant player in the industry now, and they control the online conversation. Try finding one bad thing said about them besides my video. Meanwhile, the man himself walks around wearing a t-shirt that says "I'm better than all you other makers" and for some reason you all subjugate yourself to his ego. I understand that you have got his back because he is a local success story for you. After all, he is making the printers in Prague which is probably like a 3 hour drive from where you live, and he is using made in Germany tech. So for you it's all in family, but over here in the U.S. 10,000 kilometers away we're not in that club. We're nothing but potential customers.
I don't know Prusa or his company, and your videos still infuriated me when I came across them today - so I don't think Prusa's status has anything to do with it.
When people first felt you were very unreasonable, you responded by demanding that people listen to you more closely. Of course people were pissed! I know a lot of the anger thrown at you doesn't deserve respect, but at the same time, it's not fun seeing you get so petty and combative, especially when you do such cool work. I think you should genuinely try to understand where people are coming from, and show a more humble side of yourself. Just make things better.
To bad it wasn't made in the USA. YOU could have put some Americans to work.
I will just copy past my reply to Mike Kruger down below: I spent 3 years trying to get this project off the ground in the U.S. at one point I was partnered up with Rickshaw who partially makes bags in S.F. The ugly truth is that when it comes to sewing of textiles for wearing on the body, the only company really making it happen in America was American Apparel, and now even that company is dying. Most if not all of these "Made in America" textile companies hire immigrants. They either bring Asian women, or folks from Mexico into the U.S. to operate the sewing machines. Then send them back home once their work visas expire. Nobody is willing to pay $350-400 for a bag, and that's what it would cost to have American workers making it here. I wish I could. I'm too small of a fish to fight against that tide. At least I went to Vietnam instead of China right?
I see this video only in 2020. Sorry but backpack sucks. Buckles awesome! All your story awesome! Backpack sucks.
Shoulder straps not anatomic, and how i see don't have selicon pads. Waistband have the same problems. Backpack have many terreble blunder, and you not alone at this, other companys make it too.
You have good ideas, but the implementation is terrible. Please, find your way! Good luck!