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  • @EssentialTennis
    @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому +7

    Here's the FULL match between Mark and Cole: ua-cam.com/video/QEzLkU-DupU/v-deo.html
    Also, be sure to jump inside Essential Tennis Academy for FREE: www.essentialtennisacademy.com/
    Thank you for watching today's lesson and supporting this channel. It means the world to all of us here at Essential Tennis!

  • @MarkSansait
    @MarkSansait 3 роки тому +53

    6:00 - @essentialtennis... I definitely had to pinch myself to make sure this is real life... not only did I win ONE point in this analysis... but TWO? I should go to the casino later today.
    Thanks for the lesson again! I definitely did get juked by Cole's little fake. It these subtle things that are getting overlooked at this level of tennis.
    I am glad Ian can present these subtelties in very easy layout for all to understand.
    🙏🙏🙏

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому +1

      Remember us little people when you hit it big at the casino!!

    • @JamesDavisakaRemguy
      @JamesDavisakaRemguy 3 роки тому +5

      Dude, you played an excellent game against a formidable (and younger) opponent! I love your humble attitude as well, I'd be all cocky and *thoroughly unlovable* if I could play like you. Something to look forward to, I guess. Hang in there, brother, you are rapidly becoming my hero and roll model. All the best from snowy Canada!

    • @aquadiaryofficial
      @aquadiaryofficial 3 роки тому

      Couldn’t agree more. I too need to join at Casino after waiting for few weeks to see Mark’s winning points at video analysis. 😄😄
      Btw, I changed my ezone DR to ezone 2020 after seeing your great hitting. Hoping my racquet change magically brings that massive hitting to my game 😆😆

    • @MarkSansait
      @MarkSansait 3 роки тому

      @@EssentialTennis I pout everything on red at the roulette table. but I lost. no matter, its only my only retirement account - better luck next time.

    • @MarkSansait
      @MarkSansait 3 роки тому

      @@aquadiaryofficial only thing that will get you hitting more massive is:
      1) subscribe to my channel
      2) eat more fastfood 30 mins before your singles match against someone a DECADE YOUNGER than you

  • @tenniselbow74
    @tenniselbow74 3 роки тому +7

    As an older player I find that the slice is one of the most effective shots against hard hitting juniors who are so used to the rhythm of those heavy topspin high bouncing rallies. Great video as usual!

  • @dennisang5608
    @dennisang5608 9 місяців тому

    Shifting from high and deep slice to shallow and low slices was an insight for me. Thanks!

  • @phild5813
    @phild5813 3 роки тому +4

    One of my friends uses a super full western grip and I love to give him multiple slices to his forehand side, it often results in him safely hitting the ball back short. I love it

  • @ginosuarez5941
    @ginosuarez5941 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent play analysis on the slice. Next time i will help to enumerate on the screen those 5 situations when to use the slice as a lesson recap.

  • @doghmisalah7844
    @doghmisalah7844 3 роки тому +2

    Another golden lesson Ian, thank you so much! I only use slice when the ball is low. I like how you explained why we should use the slice to change the tempo. Specially if you have an easy ball after being under pressure, it's like a trap or a bait, you shouldn't fall for it, which unfortunately I do all the time and usually screw up the point. You really opened my eyes on this one !
    I also like the fact that you show us some details we didn't catch after watching the match !
    Gold !

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому

      So glad to hear you enjoyed this lesson, Doghmi! Thanks for the encouragement!

  • @marciablair6291
    @marciablair6291 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for your lessons~I love my slice on both sides to change the tempo.

  • @EL-em3mn
    @EL-em3mn 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks Ian. I used to think that slice was for the unskilled player who didn't have a good backhand i.e. me growing up. I didn't know it was a legitimate tool to incorporate into ones game so i tried hard to eliminate it from my tool bag. Thanks to your channel, i am now understanding that it's a real asset and i need to get back to using it in varying situations. Thank you for this lesson.

  • @valerieclarke3606
    @valerieclarke3606 3 роки тому

    Light bulb moment for me was the use of slice to reset the pace. Brilliant and one I will try. Thank you! V--

  • @vincentc7624
    @vincentc7624 3 роки тому +7

    Never thought about slicing short to draw opponent in when they get comfortable hitting at baseline. Will try to use it at some point!

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому +2

      SUPER underutilized shot. Federer does it all the time!

    • @sotirisgkizas9140
      @sotirisgkizas9140 3 роки тому

      Check out 2007 Australian Open semifinal where Federer destroys Roddick using the short slice luring Roddick to the net and passing him time after time after time
      ua-cam.com/video/28iBHDBmIg0/v-deo.html
      Great video Essential Tennis

    • @michaelrindt1402
      @michaelrindt1402 3 роки тому

      It's an essential shot for doubles players.

  • @StefanMLemak
    @StefanMLemak 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video! Can't wait to incorporate some of these slice uses into my game :D

  • @annebuchanan3200
    @annebuchanan3200 3 роки тому +1

    So many videos exist on how to slice but few on when and why to do it, so thanks for this. There’s a lot more here than the title implies. I even learned a new word; “juke”, fyi, we say “deke” in Canada.

  • @ksct97
    @ksct97 3 роки тому +12

    When are you back on court Ian? Would be good to see more analysis of matches on other surfaces

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому +6

      I'll give an update soon. Thank you for your support, Ploopy!

    • @ksct97
      @ksct97 3 роки тому +1

      @@EssentialTennis that's great- just watching the live stream (missed it happening)

    • @satjiwan
      @satjiwan 3 роки тому

      As soon as he has a second indoor office/court space. Or maybe he could convert... clay on onside and hard on the other?

  • @roberthyde5484
    @roberthyde5484 3 роки тому

    Another great video Ian a slice of wisdom !

  • @klausuberhauser4303
    @klausuberhauser4303 3 роки тому +2

    Cool video. I am used to heavy hitting and recently started to focus more on variety of shots and started to use more slice and I believe those "reset the point" and "approaching the net" you mentioned are very good tips for using slice.

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @ethangremlich5345
      @ethangremlich5345 3 роки тому

      Yeah me too! This video really helped me with understanding "resetting the point".

  • @dennisbrowne2424
    @dennisbrowne2424 3 роки тому +3

    Nice breakdown of how Mark and Cole used slice in their match. As I watched the original a few weeks ago, it seemed that Mark was hitting his slice more often than in previous matches. It would be interesting to hear from him on that, but you probably shocked him into silence from featuring so much of his good work!

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому

      😆 I'm sure he'll pop up!

    • @MarkSansait
      @MarkSansait 3 роки тому +4

      *a wild Mark Sansait appears*
      I used the slice a lot more in my match because college level players (even the highly ranked ones) typically HATE slices.
      Apparently it didnt work 😭😭😭

    • @georgebasham2279
      @georgebasham2279 3 роки тому +1

      @@MarkSansait Your mixture of slice and topspin makes you a very versatile player, you have an extensive arsenal of shots to choose from. I figured you used more slice because the ball was coming at you with more pace than from your average club player, and also maybe a tad less time to run around the backhand and hit your inside out forehand. Very cool that it was a deliberate strategy.

    • @MarkSansait
      @MarkSansait 3 роки тому +1

      @@georgebasham2279 Facts!

  • @hpt150
    @hpt150 3 роки тому

    Great content. Love this channel. Noticed a typo when you threw up the modules on the big screen. One of the instances in a title is misspelled as "SUCESS."
    Keep the great content and analyses coming!

  • @CryoJinn
    @CryoJinn 3 роки тому

    Can't wait to apply more slices in my game! I stopped playing tennis years ago but watching tons of your videos motivated me to pick it up again. For now I can only train swing technique against on the wall, but I have plenty of notes for when I play against someone again thanks to you! Keep it up Ian, hope your recovery is going well :)

  • @tennisparisbrothers8001
    @tennisparisbrothers8001 3 роки тому +1

    Great video! Very informative! It so useful to look and discuss matches.

  • @Funkytrip73
    @Funkytrip73 3 роки тому +2

    Multiple slices also helps you disguise the slice dropshot. Slice backhand cross-court deep into the field, slice backhand cross-court deep into the field, followed by the same slice backhand motion but now to hit a drop shot straight ahead... Most people expect another deep cross court ball, so they're too late for the dropshot.

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому

      Excellent point!

    • @Funkytrip73
      @Funkytrip73 3 роки тому

      @@EssentialTennis Thanks :-)
      On a side note... I finally found my only tennis vid in existence. Could you perhaps give an estimate on what rating we would be? ua-cam.com/video/otcGo-97JdM/v-deo.html

  • @BrianMark75
    @BrianMark75 3 роки тому

    After years of being slow and out of shape, I got good at hitting off balance. Now that I'm moving better, it seems like all the shots are easier because I'm in better position, so I can start using slice when I want to rather than when I need to. I think all of these are going to prove useful, but the ones I was already doing were the "classic" out of position and the approach on a low ball. I look forward to including the rest.

  • @ErikSchierboom
    @ErikSchierboom 3 роки тому +1

    These videos with Cole and Mark are so incredibly useful! Really feels like it "connects" better with me than viewing pros (although they are of course great players).
    One slightly off-topic remark: I found the changing color behind you slightly distracting. Could be just me though :)

  • @Pakku8.8
    @Pakku8.8 Рік тому

    Should we return the slow serve with slice when it comes to the forehand? I'm confused because people say not to hit fh slices in matches

  • @dr.madhuriaglawe1998
    @dr.madhuriaglawe1998 3 роки тому +1

    Hello Ian sir can you make a video on how to slice correctly?
    Because almost every time I try to hit slice it goes in the net or in the fence😅
    Please let me know when you upload the video.
    Thank-you

    • @darrensurrey
      @darrensurrey 3 роки тому

      Experiment with the angle of the face and the direction. If it's going into the net, the face is too upright, if it's hitting the back net, it's facing too flat. It really depends on how the ball is coming in. You also need to play more delicately because otherwise it will always tend to sail past the baseline. That's the problem with slices - they drift when you hit with a lot of backspin; and if you hit them too hard and flat, you don't have much room for error compared to a topspin. Have fun and keep practising.

  • @thomasmedeiros5722
    @thomasmedeiros5722 3 роки тому

    I been coaching HS Tennis a long time and have watched lots of matches. So many players will use a slice on either side because they are to lazy to move their feet to get in a better position. Maybe this falls into your category of they think the slice is going to fool their opponents but usually it is just a bad habit and bad footwork. On the other hand slice of either side that stays very low when you place in a corner on an approach shot can make it challenging for your opponent to hit a passing shot. It makes a great set up for your volley on the follow up to the net. It’s also more challenging to hit a good lob off a low skidding approach shot.

  • @michaelboyko5024
    @michaelboyko5024 Рік тому

    The slice or the lower spin is really an effective shot, and the most important of it is that it cannot be simply pushed back, the ball will gladly meet the net before you blink. And to hit it back you need toospin, or slice, or at least a good moonball. And a good slice makes the opponent first take a good position before hitting back, that's not so easy. And a rich combined spin makes the ball jump in some unpredictable direction and this results usually in a moonball to hit it back, a moonball accomplished in a rush and in a stretched position what is usually an invitation to you to feast on hitting a smash or overhead.

  • @Chad-dl3yn
    @Chad-dl3yn 3 роки тому

    Essential Tennis - 1 question - can you leave the string bed if not broken, on a racket without harming the racket if its not going to be used for a season ? or better if we cut and park the racket.

  • @efeeney1010
    @efeeney1010 3 роки тому +1

    I hit 90% slice. I do hit it at times to "trick" my opponents. I find it hard to switch to topspin when I have played many years with my current style, but I have not improved much over the last several years. Any suggestions?

    • @roberthyde5484
      @roberthyde5484 3 роки тому

      Improve you slice use more power by a higher back lift get more side on and lean in. Improve your approach shot and volley. Work on your drop shot.

  • @juliansanderson839
    @juliansanderson839 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve asked this before on a community post and wasn’t sure if you saw my comment, but I was wondering if you could give some tips for the 1hb net clearance. Most of us 1handers don’t trust our topspin at all and hit everything flat and low, leading to shots that drop shallow or needing to blast inconsistent shots at high speed.
    As someone whose increase my own topspin on that side, I was wondering if you have any tips/drills/etc for ball height and depth.

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому

      Awesome question, Julian! We have a new lesson coming out really soon about hitting heavy shots. Be sure to watch it and do the drills!

  • @avikammishra8941
    @avikammishra8941 3 роки тому

    Please make a video on Djokovic vs Nadal forehand and serve analysis. Please ❤

  • @damndaniel605
    @damndaniel605 3 роки тому +1

    I love to use the drop shot, mainly because I play on slow clay a lot, and it is very effective for me ( I overdo it sometimes too)
    But ive started to use the slice more in some of these ways, especially approaching, and it makes it a lot easier to hide the drop shot.
    Edit: Typos

  • @arjunprakash8116
    @arjunprakash8116 3 роки тому

    Hi Ian, I love ur channel. It helps me a lot with my tennis game. Keep up the great work.

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому +1

      So glad to hear that, thanks for your support, Arjun!

  • @ReidVV
    @ReidVV 3 роки тому

    Dear Ian, Love all you do on your channel. Can you please do a video about using different string tensions for mains and crosses and how those differences affect a racquet's feel and playability?

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому

      Appreciate the support and suggestion, James!

    • @ReidVV
      @ReidVV 3 роки тому

      @@EssentialTennis I think strings and tensions are very overlooked by all players below the pro level. Buying my own stringer and stringing my own racquets has literally changed my game and how I play tremendously for the better. It's way beyond gut, multis, and syn guts for comfort and polys for control and spin. It's way beyond string tighter for control and looser for more power. Hybrid strings and what I'll call "hybrid tensions" (different tensions in mains and crosses) also play a huge role. Not understanding and using these factors is almost like playing with one arm tied behind your back because of not taking advantage of creating the changes in racquet feel and playability that is brought about by using different strings and tensions, even on the same racquet.

  • @shashmishra
    @shashmishra 3 роки тому

    Ian, I was watching Mark v Cole. Thank you for that.
    Any chance we can learn Cole’s off court training regimens? Much thanks.

    • @MarkSansait
      @MarkSansait 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, he eats KFC and Taco Bell all day ;)

  • @aquadiaryofficial
    @aquadiaryofficial 3 роки тому +1

    Atlast, Ian used few points that Mark won in this video analysis series. Seems like Ian is heeling from his ankle twist. 🤪🤪 🤪
    Another Great video of analysis! Kudos 😀

  • @sinclairkemp-griffin4711
    @sinclairkemp-griffin4711 3 роки тому

    Hey Ian, big fan of the content and you're philosophy around the game.
    I started coaching a few months ago and I absolutely love it. I find, though, that after about 7-10 sessions with the same individual, things get repetitive. This is fine with a client who's goal is more performance based as they understand the importance of repitition, but, for my more casual clients I find that they can lose interest because nothing 'brand new' is being introduced. Do you have any tips on how to approach this?

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому +1

      Great question, Sinclair! I'll try to answer it in an upcoming video...

  • @Kfm7
    @Kfm7 2 роки тому

    I think one video you should do it the split step . So many players will get fooled on serve . With the split step they can cover which ever the way the serve goes

  • @LiMingHillman
    @LiMingHillman 3 роки тому +1

    0:25 😂😂 that sarcasm lmaooo

  • @karentaylor1420
    @karentaylor1420 3 роки тому

    Both of them are always moving their feet 👏 👍

    • @MarkSansait
      @MarkSansait 3 роки тому

      I kind of have to because I ate Wendys before this match.

  • @duane8829
    @duane8829 3 роки тому

    Great info! Thanks. By the way I loved your work on Silicon Valley.

  • @mihaibanica3659
    @mihaibanica3659 3 роки тому

    Hi Ian, what app are you using there for analysis? is it available for PC?

  • @darrensurrey
    @darrensurrey 3 роки тому

    I do find this video quite encouraging with slices. I tend to use them too much especially on the backhand with low balls; nice to hear that it's acceptable. It annoys players at my level, though, as they normally tend to do mild top spin forehands and backhands all the time, and so expect that. For some reason, I feel more comfortable doing slices, even if my lag/snap forehand is finally coming along nicely.
    Yesterday, I think I did a proper topspin backhand twice in 2 hours of play. 🤣 I suspect it doesn't help that I train kung fu broadsword when I'm not playing tennis!

  • @boarini2003
    @boarini2003 3 роки тому +1

    How's the ankle and when are you hitting against MEP?

  • @dailymathproblems
    @dailymathproblems 3 роки тому +1

    I use slice because I never learned how to hit a backhand so now I am all forehand and slice. lol

  • @JamesDavisakaRemguy
    @JamesDavisakaRemguy 3 роки тому +2

    Good job debunking or un-demonizing (?) or de-villainizing (?!) the poor, misunderstood slice shot. Don't know why, but this valid and useful technique is the Rodney Dangerfield of tennis, i.e. "gets no respect". Once a staple of the game, it's now considered "wimping out" or worse, using it on the forehand can get you accused of "slop & chop". Crazy, right? It's just a way of hitting the ball. Fortunately, due to the rise in popularity of the one-handed backhand, we're seeing a lot more of it in the pro game again. Add to that Federer's patented "squash shot" off the forehand wing as well.
    Yes, because of this video, I will look at hitting more slice backhands (a shot I always get good feedback on) and will try to develop a decent forehand slice as well. I can hit the squash shot save pretty well, but need to work on my aim. So mission accomplished. Now if I could only hit a respectable slice serve... Thanks again for another valuable and enjoyable lesson, Ian. Already one of the best, I think you've really upped your game lately. Keep up the -good- excellent work!

  • @spongebob1849
    @spongebob1849 3 роки тому

    Great video, Ian. Thanks. I played my friend from Santa Monica 2 days ago and he sliced a lot. I couldn’t tell if he was just doing it, or just because he felt like it.

  • @findmuck7618
    @findmuck7618 3 роки тому

    When i hit my forehand my body turns too early and because of that i really can not control the Ball and im not able to hit my forehand cleanly. Any tips on that? Im confused because i can not find the solution myself and i definitely need help.
    Edit: i meant that my body turns too much before contact and that causes my problem.

    • @Spindude2
      @Spindude2 3 роки тому

      Sounds like you aren’t getting set before you hit the ball. Your arm and body aren’t synced and you are moving early. Try using your left hand to hold onto your racket until the ball bounces, then start your swing as the ball is bouncing. This will give you a sense of proper timing instead of starting your swing early and then playing catch-up with your arm.

    • @findmuck7618
      @findmuck7618 3 роки тому +1

      @@Spindude2 i Will definitely try to do this! Thank you

    • @georgebasham2279
      @georgebasham2279 3 роки тому

      Maybe you are looking at where you want the ball to go rather than tracking the ball? Sounds like you have an open stance, which is fine, so long as after your unit turn you are getting a nice relaxed racquet lag, NOT chicken winging your elbow (the real killer of a good forehand, you should be pushing with your shoulder instead with an arm that is relatively straight but not hyperextended) and hitting the ball out in front of you, windshield wiping over the ball and following through with the racquet ending pointing behind you. As Spindude2 noted, the off hand is important. Assuming you are right handed, the left hand helps bring the racquet back and continures to move to the right a bit even after you release it from the grip, and then as you bring the racquet on through with that nice lag (butt of the racquet initially pointing to the ball) the left hand then acts as a balance and moves to the left in unision with your right hand. So you are getting a coil / uncoil effect, with kind of a circular motion with your spine as the axis (and yes, the legs and hips play a role). Of course, that's EXACTLY what I do each time I hit a forehand (this is your cue to fall to the ground in hysterical laughter).

    • @tennisparisbrothers8001
      @tennisparisbrothers8001 3 роки тому +1

      @@findmuck7618 preparation being able to identify what shot is coming at you !! We post tennis videos and would appreciate if you take a look at our channel

  • @brando_handle
    @brando_handle 3 роки тому +1

    Audio was a bit weird and inconsistent with cuts also the title of the video is the opposite of the point of the video. It happens

  • @georgebasham2279
    @georgebasham2279 3 роки тому

    Mark should get a "slice" of your profits for any new memberships this lesson generates ... waa waa waaaaaa (Ian is like "what profits?" LOL)

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому

      😆

    • @MarkSansait
      @MarkSansait 3 роки тому +1

      LFMAO. Id like a SLICE of the pie :)))))
      *takes a bite out of KFC Bucket*

  • @ericsukmana5013
    @ericsukmana5013 3 роки тому +2

    I am applying all 5 points that you explained and really helps to improve my game. It also makes the game more fun and I could saves my energy significantly. #Indonesia

  • @rbraxley
    @rbraxley 3 роки тому +1

    Lights are still groovy.

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому

      Getting mixed messages on them....may go back to standard soon 😆

  • @bojack99
    @bojack99 3 роки тому +2

    Picking on mark on the thumbnails 😅😂

    • @MarkSansait
      @MarkSansait 3 роки тому +4

      I mean theres a 99% chance the point he reviews is me losing so....

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому +1

      😆

  • @bensays703
    @bensays703 3 роки тому +1

    Use slice when the ball is hit to your backhand and you dont have a backhand

  • @Jimd317
    @Jimd317 3 роки тому

    In my opinion, using slice can throw off your opponent, especially if you have been hitting with topspin.

  • @king0vdarkness
    @king0vdarkness 3 роки тому

    You better tell Rafa this!

  • @simplyeli5366
    @simplyeli5366 3 роки тому +1

    1,000th view

  • @arjunprakash8116
    @arjunprakash8116 3 роки тому

    First

  • @vanodne
    @vanodne 3 роки тому +1

    The disco lights are distracting and unnecessary...

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the feedback!

    • @damndaniel605
      @damndaniel605 3 роки тому +1

      @@EssentialTennis maybe tune them down a little? Less frequency? I still think they're kinda cool

    • @vanodne
      @vanodne 3 роки тому

      @George Ryan Maybe I'm just easily distracted! ;-)

  • @Salsainglesa
    @Salsainglesa 3 роки тому

    milking the footage or what?

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  3 роки тому +1

      Um.....yes? Why would I not use the hours of match play footage sitting on my desk? 😆

  • @avikammishra8941
    @avikammishra8941 3 роки тому

    Please make a video on Djokovic vs Nadal forehand and serve analysis. Please ❤