Best Entry Level Cockpit? 2024 GT Omega ART Review!
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2023
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Looking at the GT Omega ART Racing Cockpit as we go into 2024, is it still a great value static rig? Lets review!
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I've been waiting for the bracing to come back in stock so I was glad to see you review it before then. That looks like it made a HUGE difference. Good stuff as always, Karl. Thanks!
Thanks for the great video. I just bought the Art and will receive is Thursday.
Hope I’ll enjoy it as all the UA-camrs does
I purchased these stabilizer braces, highly recommended made a big difference. absolutely no discernable flexing while driving even on Spa ACC where before you could feel a bit of movement and lift. on some of those fast corning. good price cheap & it stop me from upgrading my cockpit. very very happy with it. told my friend a he got them straight away & gave it the thumbs up.
I hope they come back in stock soon. Also picked up the keyboard and mouse tray to complete the build. Good video carl.
Can you answer a quick question difficult to tell from photos...... the extra Support Bars, at the bottom where it bolts on, is the tube open? or is it closed off with a welded opening cover? Or a plastic square plug that could be removed? Thanks in advance.
Current rig is the GT Omega ART and been using for 6 years!!
Also owned the GT Omega EVO which is also solid cockpit.
Love your work brother!!!!
Another great review. Glad I followed your reviews/advices and bought an art cockpit rs6. It's super cool and very well made. Keep up the good work. Merry Christmas and a happy new year
Glad I could help!
Hey Karl, you got me into GT Omega products, I started with an APEX with rear seat frame and RS9. I since have upgraded to the EBay/Amazon copy of the GT Omega Titan- the Dardoo cockpit 54. For anyone looking for a cheap alternative you can get it without the seat for 150. Thanks for the great reviews Karl.
How have you liked the cockpit 54 so far? i JUST ordered one with a seat on sale for $299.99 ($320 shipped), and it'll get here today / tomorrow. It seems pretty promising especially for the price but I haven't been able to find nearly anything on youtube about it.
@@CiarlilloAutomotive.Design the only issue is there is some flex on wheel deck but it is not noticeable during gameplay
I just picked one up and couldn't be happier. 👍
I'm just starting with sim racing. I already purchased the Fanatec GT DD Pro.
So I started looking for a cheap rig and discovered your channel.
Thank you for your reviews and honest comments 😎👍
Ah welcome to the hobby mate!
I'm just reaching/dripping my toe into sim racing after a long time out from racing games (GT). I'm finding your reviews to be the best. Very fair and impartial. Keep up the good work 👍
Glad you like them mate thanks.
@@KarlGosling no probs.
Good to see I made a good choice last year, I absolutely loving it so far
Great to hear!
@@KarlGoslingHey Karl, quick question… is it possible to mount both a handbrake and gear shifter at the same time on the shifter plate on this rig? I’m thinking about buying this one, but wanted something that can hold both at the same time.
I love your content so much. Me being a rally racer too, it just becomes relatable due to me not taking it seriously more like an expensive tear creating hobby
Great review bro , I’m looking exactly for a cockpit just like the Art that won’t break my bank!
Excelente review. Thank you a lot. It helped me a bunch.
Glad it helped!
I got some great ideas from your videos over the last year or two Karl. I think a lot of the fun is in modding your set up so that it's unique to you.
Yeah I loved my early days, always coming up with new ideas!
I got the Indian OEM version of this rig during the summer, it cost just over £100 off fleabay , no seat because I use a gaming chair with it. The wheel deck is less versatile but it suits the G29 just fine. I could do with the extra braces & it's pre-drilled for them too.
Since you don't have the parts I'll post this before I watch the video, but if you mention it later on my apologies. The HOTAS addons you can get for this cockpit are not worth buying, especially if you want to also use a wheel at the same time and if you have other addons. There's a few problems with it but by far the worst two are that the upright that you stick the joystick in to is only held in place by one single bolt going in to the center of the bar and friction. The bar doesn't lock in to anything or anything like that, it means no matter how tight you get the bolt the upright the joystick goes in to rotates semi-freely (and works loose over time) and so your joystick will continually go off center. Also there is simply not enough clearance between my joystick and the plate you install a wheel on to for you to move the joystick forwards (and this is with both the seat and the joystick as far down as possible), I personally don't care about the wheel and so removed the plate which fixed that but if your wheel is the more important part it means you have to keep taking the wheel off and then putting it back on which will be obnoxious.
Oh and also an extra problem with the HOTAS addon that only popped in to my head half way through the video is that the HOTAS addon comes with a bar that replaces the one that is between the seat and the pedal tray with some extra predrills to fit the rails the HOTAS system rides on. This bar is a millimeter or two too long and so if you fit it you can no longer put the bars that connect the seat section of the cockpit and the pedal/wheel section of the cockpit in anymore. The HOTAS rails do a good enough job of holding the cockpit together (though are not as easily removable as the original bars so it isn't a quick job to split the cockpit anymore) so it isn't a massive problem, but it is weird that it is a problem at all.
it's little brother, the apex wheelstand or the OG, the Classic Wheelstand with the necessary rear seat frame and seat are really good alternatives too imo. (i have the Classic Wheel stand with all the bells and whistles, really happy with it!)
I'm still absolut happy with my Art Rig. Bimarco Hummer as seat, did some bracing on my own, absolute perfect :D still waiting for the GT Omega bracing to be back in stock, the stiffer, the better xD
Great to hear!
I bought the Amazon cheap version ( its the same thing from the same factory in china). I'm doing what you did before, modify it to your preferences and buget. If want rock solid build it your self or open your wallet, i will modify mine to suit my needs and i shall be very happy with the end product. Thanks for your video's and happy holidays
You too mate! Thanks!
Just bought one using your code a few weeks ago! Been loving it but have noticed a decent amount of flex on the shifter mount. It really doenst flex until you put the fanatec shifter on it and start throwing gears. I'm gonna try some DIY bracing mounts for that. I cant notice any flex on where my wheel sits or my pedals so there isnt much at all to complain about. The seat is also very nice 🤌🏻 Thanks for the recommendation!
I have this rig with casters on, I have had absolutely no problems with it at all. It just does it job👌🏻
I only have a G29 on it now and I’m going to upgrade to Asetek Forte wheel and base. I don’t know if this rig can handle 18nm, but we shall see 😅
Hi, since I have the 920, how pedal base copes with the stiff brake pedal. I am perfectly ok with 920 brake pedal but since I am thinking of purchasing ART I wonder if it can handle it with not huge flexes.
@@cyclon70
I have only tried it with the g29 pedal, and there is no problems at all. I haven’t bought the Asetek yet so I can’t tell about flex, but it seems really and I don’t think it’s going to be a problem.
I have no intention of upgrading my rig to, so it will have to cope with the new gear 😂
Karl great video, I have a ART cockpit which I upgraded from the horror of the ADX fire base A01 and I’m going to mount a gt dd pro and csl pedals to it can’t wait. And I was wondering if there are any other upgrades you’d suggest for this as so far I’ve got caster wheels support bars and the pedal plate adapter/reinforcement.
For stiffening you're probably ok now, but a X bracket as in one of my other ART video's is always good if not using the monitor mount.
Great review I did get the Dardoo version of this for bit cheaper. I am considering doing the bracing like you did in another video once I get my new Fanatec CSL DD and figure out the new height and distance setup right. I do notice the flex in the shifter going side to side. I am going to maybe order the support they offer for that. I need to figure out mounting E brake like you did to yours.
Anyone else feel Karl was done with us and making this video at 20 mins in? jk lol
Did it workout for you? From what I can see in photos the mounting doesn't match fanatec
Thanks for the code 😁 Just buy a 8020 Monitor Stand and a floor mat. Nice produts at a good price this brand 👌
Yeah I think so mate.
I got the coster wheel for it too
great review karl , would you say the Art is a upgrade from the apex wheel stand & seat frame? ive found one used pretty cheap with alot of extra's
I have a video comparing the two mate so check it out!
@@KarlGosling sod it i might just get the Prime Lite based on your review mate ;)
I ordered it a few weeks ago as i commented on an earlier video but had to cancel my order after three weeks of waiting because they dont have stock. Bought a much cheaper one and i dont regret it. Its solid and comes with seat and a monitor mount so i would say that the Art isnt the best entry level.
great vid. how would you compare the ART to the titan?
Titan more solid but way less adjustment.
Only just discovered this video. Wondering how far them rails pull back, not forward, so my shortarse feet can actually reach the pedals lol. Good review though man, lots of helpful info.
Thanks for the vid. I was torn between NLR GTRacer and Omega Titan. Think this is a perfect medium for my setup (Logitech wheel, shifter and TLCM pedals). Tired of my Omega wheel stand and desk chair. Ergonomics killing my back since I can't lower the chair.
I must have gangly legs or something because the wheel deck is about 1 inch above where my knees sit when I'm in my driving position and the wheel isn't stupidly low either lol
are you using the 8nm or the 5nm DD on this? and have you tried to mount the CSL V2 pedals to the art?
8nm and no mate I have not.
Hello, I’ve got this exact set up I’m building and I can’t seem to mount the pedal to the plate ? How did you get it to mount straight on when they don’t line up ?
Hi Karl, great video, I'm just trying to decide between the RS9 seat or the chase bucket seat, what are your thoughts on the bucket
Bucket seat is always going to be more solid but no adjustment of course.
Thanks for the vid Karl. Do you think the prime lite is that much better than the art? Dont mind to spend the difference provided there's a noticeable improvement. Grateful for your advice please.
Very much so yes mate!
Hey Karl can you take a look at the 3drap logikit package seems to good to be true it would be much appreciated
Can you answer a quick question that I can't tell from any photos...... the extra Support Bars, at the bottom where it bolts on, is the tube open? or is it closed off with a welded opening cover? Thanks in advance.
I do not have it any more to check mate sorry.
@@KarlGosling ok, thanks for responding.
Hey Karl great review, have u had any experience with the Next Level Racing GTRacer cockpit and whether you think it’s worth saving some money and getting it or if the GTOmega is the better value for money
I have one here so a review is coming!
Ive been trying to get me one of these for a while and they are always sold out for the US market
I have this rig and it has been awesome but I found mounting fanatec Csl pedals on the pedal plate tricky for how I wanted them configured. I also recommend replacing all the handled bolts for actual bolts. The seat makes a creak when braking heavily and I’ve contacted gt omega and I just got told to tighten the seat bolts. Which didn’t fix the problem.
We had a similar noise coming from the hinge on the seat recliner side, a small amount of silicone spray between the hinge and a small amount on the recliner spring and the noise was gone, may have to lubricate every few months, but has been so far.
@@storypunman gt omega said roughly the same thing and even though it worked, it was back around a day later. I’ve been a truck mechanic for 20years and no way a seat should make this noise after a few months. I’m just going to eventually swap for a bucket seat.
Nice video Karl. This really is the best entry cockpit. I had playseat then i bought the Art cockpit. Year later sold everything, not sure why but then bought new sim bits again, i bought another art rig because i knew how good they are. I now have Prime lite, amazing cockpit. I have been really pleased with everything i have bought from Gt Omega, I have one of their gaming desks, and a chair, brilliant quality all of them
Hi Karl. Any ideas on how to stop the pedal plate flex? My load cells are mounted in a way that lifts the plate from the middle upwards.
We have load cell pedals attached to the ART cockpit, we got rid of most of the pedal plate flex by putting a support under the front of the plate to the ground. We are on padded carpet so there is some flex as the carpet will press down, but the support made a huge difference. You can use a piece of wood, but you will have to play around with size and spacing to get it right. We actually used an old broken step from a pool ladder.
The plate they sell to bolt on or DIY something similar would be my suggestion, just needs a little reinforcement.
@@KarlGosling cheers Karl, yes that seems to be the best way to go.
gt art or extra £100 for the titan what would you recommend only using g29 currently on playseat revolution but seat is awful and gives me a bad back and centre pole is annoying so no dd just yet but will upgrade to at some point prob 8nm fanatec not bothered about competition is just for fun any advice or recommendations appreciated?
ART is entry level, Titan is mid and Prime Lite is top end... choose your budget and buy accordingly mate!
Hi Karl, since I have the G920 wheel and pedals, how pedal base copes with the stiff brake pedal. I am perfectly ok with 920 brake pedal as it is but since I am thinking of purchasing ART I wonder if it can handle it with not huge flexes. Any thoughts on this?
There's some flex but for the price point it's fine.
@KarlGosling Thank you for your answer as well for the discount I gained through your link!
I want to start sim racing but im torn between the ART cockpit and the prime lite. If i get the ART with a seat its just under $500. If i get the prime lite withoit a seat its the same price for the budget i want to spend on a cockpit. Im pretty tall at 6'5". Which do you think would be better. Thanks!!
Your height won't matter but the Prime Lite is a much better cockpit hence the price difference.
I’m looking into getting a direct drive wheel which would you recommend moza or Fanatec?
Fanatec.
@@KarlGosling ok thank you
If I was looking for something to keep for a long time, do you think it's worth going for the Titan or this instead?
Bro what size are the thumb screws? Would you know?
Thnx k
I know this doesn't have nothing to do with this video but, since this is a great channel/community about VR, I would appreciate your help in this: on a budget and for a first-time VR user, would you rather buy, for PCVR/simracing, an oculus rift cv1 for 150€ or quest 2 for about 230€? In my country, the second-hand prices for oculus products are quite screwed up; basically a cv1 costs around the same as a rift s or a quest 2 (190-240), but sometimes there are opportunities like the one I mentioned above and I just wanted to know if it's worth to save 50 bucks. Thanks.
you mentioned the brand but never mentioned the specific NM you were using. "CSL DD" has a 5NM and 8NM model so yanoooo which one is it ahaa?, also couldnt you bolt the pedal tray length ways to help with the frame flex?.
8Nm and no mate.
In all honesty i wish i skipped all the steps going from playseat challenge > wheel stand DD > Aluminum rig in the end cost a lot more reselling that stuff for less and wasting time.
I went straight for this rig with a G29, and I’m about to upgrade to Asetek wheel and base. I do wish wenn I bought this rig, that I just gone all the way and bought a profile rig. It would have saved me the cost of this rig.
Well we live and learn 😂 thinking about it, I have been really happy with this rig and I have used it a lot and I have never had any problems with it,so in that sense it’s okay
@@Mr450pro For me personally i was ocd about any kind of wobble so i kept upgrading.
Does the bracing come with it as standard or is it an optional extra?
I actually have this cockpit and trust me when I say additional bracing is an absolute must. I actually took some tie down straps which I thought was a pretty easy and effective way to build rigidity.
Can I ask a personal question?
If you could choose a triple screen, which one would you prefer? triple MONITOR LED widescreen 34" R1500 2k 144hz vs triple TV 55" OLED (can run 2k 120hz)
I had a hard choice to do 😆
I would go with the 55"s as you see so much more of the game world, I'm not a fan of wide letterbox curved setups as most sims do not have correction for the curve and you see way less.
Does this cockpits come with spares screws and what not
Also why do you have a shipping container in your back garden?
I live on a farm so have many shipping containers and farm machinery.
Looks like you been pumping some iron bro. 👍🏼👍🏼
Always when I can mate!
Everything said in this review applies exactly the same to all of the clone cockpits you can get for $50-75 less than the GT Omega branded option.
I have mounted a G29, CSL Elite, and CSW 2.5 to one. None of those are DD bases, but the flex was still very noticeable with each base.
If you like drifting, the type of wheel movement you do while drifting will have the wheel deck constantly bouncing.
If you mount a stiff shifter, especially a sequential one, the mount flexes almost as far as the throw of the shift. It feels awful.
It's a fine rig, but it NEEDs additional bracing. The GT Omega branded bracing is incredibly overpriced, you can DIY a better solution for less.
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How you gettin on with WRC mate?
I've still not tried it, injured my back so haven't been able to drive for a couple of weeks and now I have COVID too :(
@KarlGosling the F#%ing Vid mate. I've had it 3 times now. Plenty of hydration gets us healthy lads through.
Hope ya back on track soon mate 🙏 👍
I was interested in either this one or the Titan, but both are completely out of stock, and they claim they have no idea for how long. Is the chinese copy much inferior to this one? Looks like a direct rip off, but at least it is available and I could be driving next week???
No idea mate, could be ok or could fall apart in a matter of hours... I wouldn't risk it personally.
Do you think you can attach their gaming chairs to this rig
No mate, not the office chair style ones.
unfortunately atleast for the us site literally everything is sold out
Gt omega brilliant company. I wouldn't change my prime. But what i regret doing is buying 2x foldable cockpits before I realised pissing the missus off more, I mean buying an aluminium profile is a must if you want all the extras
Ie handbrake / gear shift easy mountable, more importantly a cup holder without spilling a drop of guiness. A food for thought if you thinking about a foldable 😊
were you in the military?
No mate.
Always sold out
Its unfortunate because alot of people are looking for objective opinions but alot of youtubers are becoming infomercials for companies
I can give you our opinion, we bought an ART cockpit and have a Logitech G Pro wheel and pedals attached. Cockpit is great for for us. Their is some frame flex on high FFB games when drifting or dirt rally. Pedal plate does have some noticeable flex with load cell pedals; we had to support under the front of the pedal plate to remove the flex. The steering deck could use a little more support, but the supports from the company attach to the monitor mount supports which will not remove actual frame flex. The flex is minor, but we may build vertical supports down to the bottom of the frame to make it more solid. But, like Karl said.... it is an excellent "entry level" cockpit that is 1/3 to 1/5th the price of many others.
It's not the case with Karl.
Karl had a whole video on how to DIY fix GT Omega's design flaws and remove flex... But now we have a video with affiliate links to sell GT Omega's overpriced "official" solution.
@JP-dn2eb I'm guessing you're fairly new to my channel mate.
@@jerrylindgren7828
Not all people are interested in diy stuff. Some just wants to buy the solution and be done with it.
I bought an expensive cockpit bundle that includes a wheel and pedals. It even has a shifter. It cost me 34k - which is pretty expensive but I think it is worth it. It is called a 2023 CN7. It has wind simulation, stop at the gas station simulation, and drive to work simulation. Downside is it has pay for insurance and get tickets simulation, too. I live in a simulation.
seems to flex about as much as the prime lite, maybe a bit more
Prime Lite doesn't flex.
Theyre all crap then ..thanks matey
I had a similar setup from that company. I do not care what the „price point“ is , the thing is absolute crap. It was do bad that even when I finally got rid of it, I did not sell it as I would have felt like a scammer. That video is ridiculous.
Sounds more like your experience is ridiculous mate.