Simon thinks if he just says “I’m not trying to defend Levy here” it’ll throw us off the scent, but he backs him every single time without fail. If he’s your mate, just admit you can’t be objective about him
Simon is totally illogical here. He is presented with very clear, detailed numbers that show Tottenham has nearly 200m PSR capacity. Tottenham not spending on players is a business choice by the owner Daniel Levy.
Hmmm, I'm not entirely sure that's actually what he's getting at. I think what Stefan might be saying is that, they have room to operate at more loss & still remain under the limit. Speaking purely in financial regulations (PSR) terms. When is somone gonna say if you keep operating at a loss, you can't pay your debts & you'll go it if business. I think they do it because they'll eventually try raising more money by increasing ticket prices or TV deals (which fans pay more). When will the spiral end?
@@allanfitz3535 loyal supporters DON'T want a 'business', they want a successful team playing exciting football and winning trophies. That's why it's Levy out.
@@allanfitz3535 Levy made numerous statements telling us that every penny generated by ALL activities go into the FOOTBALL club. So what was your point again?
Be very careful what you wish for my friend! If Levy ever goes, then you will wishing he had stayed mark my words! unless you are happy having a Saudi - who murders people buy it - if you can live with that then good for you.
Yes no wonder he lost all his money!! but the point is people say Spurs pay the lowest wages, no ever says maybe all the other players at other clubs are over paid! - when all said and done, they are just running around kicking a ball about!
It was David Pleat who said it when he was on the show a few months back stating it was the case from his inside information Simon is just repeating it
@mikezappa I don't think so, he left Spurs in may 2024 and made the statement in Sep 2024 which makes your reasoning is not logical and Pocch turned down many opportunities to sign players. I quite "MP didn't want to sign players for the sake of it, he felt the squad was deep enough and those coming back from injuries would be like new signings"
I love when Simon defends Levy with the soul argument that “you don’t understand because you’re not an owner of a club and I was”. He was a failure of a football club owner. Maybe you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Thanks Stefan. Tired of Simon's defence of Levy just cause he was an owner. Bottom line is in football you have to take risks and Levy is totally unprepared to do so.
But now he is risking the possibility of relegation, peanuts for TV money, all his precious sponsors will walk, difficult phone call will have to be made to F1 and NFL Levy is literally fiddling while Rome burns and if we do go down, I will be first to new my ST just to watch Levy squirm thinking about the billions the business it devalued by
He actually costs the club more money by being toght and cautious as often buys second or 3rd choice and then not good enough so have to sell them in cheap or Loan them out and buy a replacement
Agree with comments. Borseman is an expert and Jordan doesn’t like what he’s saying. Borseman has no skin the game. He is saying it’s Levy’s choice not to throw more money in , unlike other clubs such as Man U who are more hampered by PSR
Mourinho admits he has no connection with Tottenham and puts in down to playing in empty staduims and the fact Levy sacked him prior to a League Cup Final in 2021.
We're in "very good shape" if your definition of that is to raise the value of the club to a very significant level so Daniel can make an absolute fortune when he sells all or part of his stake. He runs the club in his personal and business interests. Maybe he can't tell the difference between that and the club's interest. If spurs get relegated he'll have a few sleepless nights knowing he's lost a few billion
As a very angry Newcastle fan of some 65 years PSR is now used to protect the big six, not to stop financial mis management that could lead to a club failing. We WILL grow to the point where our clout will be unleashed.
Danny Murphy says right at the end what could have been said at the start and saved everyone elses breath. We dont pay the wages to attract established decent players. The end
Jordan, you were an owner ages ago, many things have changed. Put this guy on more, he knows what he is talking about unlike many on Talksport these days
What does it matter what Simon ‘thinks’?? Why is his unresearched opinion better than researched facts and numbers? Always looking to give cover to the rich owners regardless of his knowledge of the facts…..
Jordan yesterday "Spurs lost £250m" Jordan Today "Spurs lost £250m" Jordan 2 minutes ago "I don't think there is any denying that Spurs are in a position where they can spend money and I don't think anyones denied that" It's so funny, it seems like the every time people come on the show with facts about Levy, Simon goes out and buys even bigger glasses to hide behind Also notice as soon as Murphy brings up wages, BANG, Jim white jumps right in to end the discussion in an instant. Levy has got White and Jordan very well trained these days.
Spurs have the 3rd highest net spend on players over 5 yrs. Spurs have made losses of £230m over last 3 years. PSR capacity doesn’t mean you have the money as some expenses are taken out like stadium depreciation, womens football etc.
Yeah whilst I do think Levy needs to significantly loosen the purse strings to keep the team competitive, it amazes me how so many people don’t understand that having “PSR headroom” isn’t the same as having actual money in the bank. PSR headroom includes how much money you’re allowed to lose over 3 years.
@@Jamesadams210 He’s estimating they could spend £200m and not breach PSR rules. It doesn’t mean you have £200m cash to spend. For example if you made losses of £100m over 3 years and spent £100m on the women’s team, for PSR you broke even as women’s expenses get taken out. So you could spend an extra £100m and go into £100m loss which is ok under PSR. But you have to have this extra £100m to spend or borrow it.
@ we’ve made losses of £230m over 3 years. Some of that is depreciation but we’re not rolling in profits. Our wages are only £14m behind Liverpool but for the right player we should start paying a bit more. We’re 6th on wages.
Ha ha someone there to call Simon Jordan out on his "I'm a businessman so I know what I'm talking about" bullshit. Plus, regardless of the amount of money to spend, the core argument against Levy is the wage to revenue ratio which, as pointed out, needs to be significantly increased. Look at Jordan squirming in his seat as his mate gets called out.
Jordan refuses to criticise his bum chum Levy and we all hate it. And why is Levy still Spurs’ chairman? He’s overstayed his welcome and needs to honourably step down l, he’s can’t do anymore for the club and the fans are bored of him.
They bought the club for 30m, its worth 4b…even if the owners made a director loan for 200m to help the team, when they sell the club they will clear (after debt) 2.5b minimum….they chose not to as getting top 6 is all they need to feed the debt and make as much money as possible - cash cow..
This is nothing new, pay low wages and sell more and get a profit despite Tottenham’s results; as long as Levy is profitable that’s all he cares about.
Mourinho, Conte, and Ange all averaged 1 game per week in their first season. They all succeeded. Then year two they had 2 games per week and failed. Spurs problem is undeniably lack of squad depth.
Simon got put in his place yet still defends the indefensible of levy. Ppl need to remember simon was only in the PL once as a owner in his whole palace era,football and finace has changesd so much since simon was a failed owner. This guy said spuds have got nearly £200mill to spend on players and still be within psr rules. Simon is just defending his mate levy. Again Simon only was in the PL once as a owner he don't really know shite about the PL n finaces.
They are both correct really but talking at slightly cross purposes. I think Stephan is saying they could spend more if they want and Simon is saying that they have a of of debt. Both correct. Spurs don't have £200m cash in the bank, BUT could increase their debt if they chose to buy players or pay more wages and still be within the PSR rules.
It’s less than 40% now as the high earners in nbombele lo celso Kane hojberg lloris dier have all left the club and been replaced by younger players on lower wages
All Tottenham fans , lets make the noise , Thinck about Mauricio Pocetino , he love us , always will love us , Thinck at 5 years togather, and the Champions League moments, this club needs someone who love us and the club, and he its the right man. Lets Chant in the stadium his song, and bring him back home,
This guy simon talks about others having a bias…not once has tott and levy been brought up and he didnt have a bias 😂. He gets red in face and immediately starts defending.
Would trade the stadium for just 1 damn trophy! Levy wants all the money for himself and doesn't ever want to invest in the club. He doesn't love football or it's supporters
The goal of any football club should be to amass titles and trophies and sit just above break even on the money side. If you are not investing to win titles and trophies but amassing profit then you shouldn’t be running a football club….if you making a big profit but the squad quality and output on the field is decreasing then you are failing…regardless of the profit
Someone should ask the banks what their mortgage conditions are for Spurs. PSR isn't the only consideration....as soon as you take on £850m of commercial debt, covenants start to apply.
Shame on Levy !! The most hated chairman in football with good reason. Get out of the club, you've turned it into something no fan asked for !!! No fan !!!
Simon loves to use the fact he was an owner to make sweeping statements against logical numbers. I dislike the man greatly, the amount of arrogance is crazy.
Simon telling a financial expert that he's wrong with the finances his explaining, but he doesn't have any skin in the game..... I really like Simon and agree with most of what he says, but when it comes to levy he defends him to the hilt and seems to be the only one who does son
Simon thinks if he just says “I’m not trying to defend Levy here” it’ll throw us off the scent, but he backs him every single time without fail. If he’s your mate, just admit you can’t be objective about him
When it comes to Levy, Jordan is never “balanced”
bum chums
Simon is totally illogical here. He is presented with very clear, detailed numbers that show Tottenham has nearly 200m PSR capacity. Tottenham not spending on players is a business choice by the owner Daniel Levy.
You would expect your best mate to do what Simon does
Simon is exactly right. Stefan is talking solely about the club. Simon is talking about the whole business.
Hmmm, I'm not entirely sure that's actually what he's getting at. I think what Stefan might be saying is that, they have room to operate at more loss & still remain under the limit. Speaking purely in financial regulations (PSR) terms.
When is somone gonna say if you keep operating at a loss, you can't pay your debts & you'll go it if business.
I think they do it because they'll eventually try raising more money by increasing ticket prices or TV deals (which fans pay more). When will the spiral end?
@@allanfitz3535 loyal supporters DON'T want a 'business', they want a successful team playing exciting football and winning trophies.
That's why it's Levy out.
@@allanfitz3535 Levy made numerous statements telling us that every penny generated by ALL activities go into the FOOTBALL club.
So what was your point again?
If you want a great stadium Levy is your man. If you want a great squad Levy isnt.
That will be his legacy
Be very careful what you wish for my friend! If Levy ever goes, then you will wishing he had stayed mark my words! unless you are happy having a Saudi - who murders people buy it - if you can live with that then good for you.
It’s not a perceived lack of ambition from ENIC and Levy… it is a factual lack of ambition.
He put Jordan in his place..He keeps talking about when he was a owner 100yrs ago
Yes no wonder he lost all his money!! but the point is people say Spurs pay the lowest wages, no ever says maybe all the other players at other clubs are over paid! - when all said and done, they are just running around kicking a ball about!
And Simon was telling us 2 days ago that levy offered Poch the war chest and Poch refused 🐸☕️ come on now Simon
It was David Pleat who said it when he was on the show a few months back stating it was the case from his inside information Simon is just repeating it
Ange got blamed for not spending money before as well. What manager wouldn’t spend money if it was offered to them??
@@leroysmart9363 Pleat has been Levy'ed, like all ex employees that do not want to lose their severance. Wake up.
@mikezappa I don't think so, he left Spurs in may 2024 and made the statement in Sep 2024 which makes your reasoning is not logical and Pocch turned down many opportunities to sign players. I quite "MP didn't want to sign players for the sake of it, he felt the squad was deep enough and those coming back from injuries would be like new signings"
@@leroysmart9363 do you really believe that nonsense
I love when Simon defends Levy with the soul argument that “you don’t understand because you’re not an owner of a club and I was”. He was a failure of a football club owner. Maybe you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Simons face is about to explode. He can't stand facts.
Even when the clear facts and figures were read out to him by Borson he still faught tooth and nail to defend Levy.. it's quite incredible!
Thanks Stefan. Tired of Simon's defence of Levy just cause he was an owner.
Bottom line is in football you have to take risks and Levy is totally unprepared to do so.
He's prepared he just won't, the money is there but he has never put on his list of things do win a trophy.
But now he is risking the possibility of relegation, peanuts for TV money, all his precious sponsors will walk, difficult phone call will have to be made to F1 and NFL
Levy is literally fiddling while Rome burns and if we do go down, I will be first to new my ST just to watch Levy squirm thinking about the billions the business it devalued by
He actually costs the club more money by being toght and cautious as often buys second or 3rd choice and then not good enough so have to sell them in cheap or Loan them out and buy a replacement
@@tvgcmma9215spot on
Agree with comments. Borseman is an expert and Jordan doesn’t like what he’s saying. Borseman has no skin the game. He is saying it’s Levy’s choice not to throw more money in , unlike other clubs such as Man U who are more hampered by PSR
Levy should consider changing our rooster to something more apt...because Tottenham are nothing more than a cash cow for him.
Levy isn't a fan,he's an entertainment business owner,and football means nothing
HEY SIMON - WHY HAVEN'T YOU RELEASED YOUR LEVY INTERVIEW? 😂🤣🤔
If Spurs look like winning a cup then the manager gets sacked by Levy so as to avoid paying the manager, staff and players win bonuses.
Mourinho admits he has no connection with Tottenham and puts in down to playing in empty staduims and the fact Levy sacked him prior to a League Cup Final in 2021.
We're in "very good shape" if your definition of that is to raise the value of the club to a very significant level so Daniel can make an absolute fortune when he sells all or part of his stake. He runs the club in his personal and business interests. Maybe he can't tell the difference between that and the club's interest. If spurs get relegated he'll have a few sleepless nights knowing he's lost a few billion
Simon can never admit being wrong, ever. Complete narcissist
As a very angry Newcastle fan of some 65 years PSR is now used to protect the big six, not to stop financial mis management that could lead to a club failing. We WILL grow to the point where our clout will be unleashed.
100💯👍
Danny Murphy says right at the end what could have been said at the start and saved everyone elses breath. We dont pay the wages to attract established decent players. The end
Pretty much obvious to see - Levy is a business man, he's not a fan, the club is in great condition financially but woeful on the park.
Jordan, you were an owner ages ago, many things have changed. Put this guy on more, he knows what he is talking about unlike many on Talksport these days
They don't like people to argue with Simon too much. He gets upset.
Stefan borson looks like an old man and a young man at the same time 😊
he's the double of the hobbit fella Martin freeman, i can't see him but as a hobbit now :D
Benjamin Button.
I love that even when the numbers are explained to Simon, he totally ignores it and does his usual of backing his mate. Pathetic 😂
What does it matter what Simon ‘thinks’?? Why is his unresearched opinion better than researched facts and numbers? Always looking to give cover to the rich owners regardless of his knowledge of the facts…..
Jordan yesterday "Spurs lost £250m"
Jordan Today "Spurs lost £250m"
Jordan 2 minutes ago "I don't think there is any denying that Spurs are in a position where they can spend money and I don't think anyones denied that"
It's so funny, it seems like the every time people come on the show with facts about Levy, Simon goes out and buys even bigger glasses to hide behind
Also notice as soon as Murphy brings up wages, BANG, Jim white jumps right in to end the discussion in an instant.
Levy has got White and Jordan very well trained these days.
That is the Levy dna ,
Spurs only spent 42% of revenue on wages,that dont include tv money.
Jordan is to Levy as Martin Keown is to Arsenal.
Spot on, there is no objectivity it is defend at all costs
I would ignore Jordan when it comes to football finance, Crystal Palace ended up in administration
Spot on
Jordan sticking for his friend no matter what's put in front of him
Lovers
ah good to see simon jordon sticking up for his bum chum
I agree with everything Stefan has to say, only thing I disagree with is when he say's Levy is a fan, he clearly isn't.
Simon is trying to make his boy look better by blurring PSR capacity of 200 mil to spend with profit/cash in hand of 200 mil
Levy is entire businesses man.
Being allowed to spend the money and actually having the money are two completely different things.
west ham sold RICE And we are told we have no money.
Spurs have the 3rd highest net spend on players over 5 yrs. Spurs have made losses of £230m over last 3 years. PSR capacity doesn’t mean you have the money as some expenses are taken out like stadium depreciation, womens football etc.
Yeah whilst I do think Levy needs to significantly loosen the purse strings to keep the team competitive, it amazes me how so many people don’t understand that having “PSR headroom” isn’t the same as having actual money in the bank. PSR headroom includes how much money you’re allowed to lose over 3 years.
He’s just told us spurs can spend 100s of millions. Did you listen
@@Jamesadams210 He’s estimating they could spend £200m and not breach PSR rules. It doesn’t mean you have £200m cash to spend.
For example if you made losses of £100m over 3 years and spent £100m on the women’s team, for PSR you broke even as women’s expenses get taken out.
So you could spend an extra £100m and go into £100m loss which is ok under PSR.
But you have to have this extra £100m to spend or borrow it.
@ I get that but he was saying they are well within and could spend hundreds. It’s the wages that are always the issue.
@ we’ve made losses of £230m over 3 years. Some of that is depreciation but we’re not rolling in profits.
Our wages are only £14m behind Liverpool but for the right player we should start paying a bit more. We’re 6th on wages.
Isn’t he the same guy who said Chelsea and Leicester would undoubtedly breach FFP?
Ha ha someone there to call Simon Jordan out on his "I'm a businessman so I know what I'm talking about" bullshit. Plus, regardless of the amount of money to spend, the core argument against Levy is the wage to revenue ratio which, as pointed out, needs to be significantly increased. Look at Jordan squirming in his seat as his mate gets called out.
I reckon Levy is a closet Woolwich Arsenal fan
Football used to be a sport .
Levy is definitely not a football fan!
Footballers have a small window to make their money for the rest of their lives . Levy & Joe need to cough up !
Simon keeps defending his mate though he knows he is wrong
Borson wins that by two falls and a knock out.
Jordan refuses to criticise his bum chum Levy and we all hate it.
And why is Levy still Spurs’ chairman? He’s overstayed his welcome and needs to honourably step down l, he’s can’t do anymore for the club and the fans are bored of him.
They bought the club for 30m, its worth 4b…even if the owners made a director loan for 200m to help the team, when they sell the club they will clear (after debt) 2.5b minimum….they chose not to as getting top 6 is all they need to feed the debt and make as much money as possible - cash cow..
As high as 6b I read they'd want to sell the club. Insane amount of profit.
How much is Levy paying Simon...
Simon showing his elegance to Levy
This is nothing new, pay low wages and sell more and get a profit despite Tottenham’s results; as long as Levy is profitable that’s all he cares about.
Simon doesn’t like facts and figures
Why is simon arguing with an expert on facts and figures?
Simon gets numbers then still challenges the FACTS what a silly, condescending man
Mourinho, Conte, and Ange all averaged 1 game per week in their first season. They all succeeded. Then year two they had 2 games per week and failed. Spurs problem is undeniably lack of squad depth.
I just want Tottenham’s defence to be as strong as Simon Jordan’s defence of Daniel Levy.
Levy will pocket the parachute payments... Simon mate, he won't give you a penny!
Know your place, Simon.
Simon saying he doesn't think we've got anywhere near £180m but not backing that statement up with anything at all😂
The big problem is with recruitment staff and players. Not good enough
Stefan Borson with the [The Rock "SYBA UP!"] audio clip towards Simon Jordan, lol
The crowd will be much smaller in the championship.
is that a fact....had no idea....
A PSR defecit does not mean the club has cash in the bank to spend though.
Simon got put in his place yet still defends the indefensible of levy. Ppl need to remember simon was only in the PL once as a owner in his whole palace era,football and finace has changesd so much since simon was a failed owner. This guy said spuds have got nearly £200mill to spend on players and still be within psr rules. Simon is just defending his mate levy. Again Simon only was in the PL once as a owner he don't really know shite about the PL n finaces.
They are both correct really but talking at slightly cross purposes. I think Stephan is saying they could spend more if they want and Simon is saying that they have a of of debt. Both correct. Spurs don't have £200m cash in the bank, BUT could increase their debt if they chose to buy players or pay more wages and still be within the PSR rules.
It’s less than 40% now as the high earners in nbombele lo celso Kane hojberg lloris dier have all left the club and been replaced by younger players on lower wages
Jordan talks over people when he thinks he could be WRONG
Simon totally got done here. He should have just admitted this guys extensive expertise.
Brick Top getting all animated as usual.
Levy doesn’t want to spend. - let’s just leave it at that.
Simon doing his support Mr.Levy thing again lol
This is so onesided that Joe Lewis 700milion Super Yacht doesn't run on fresh air😂
Very interesting..but I think levy don’t trust Ange now.
All Tottenham fans , lets make the noise , Thinck about Mauricio Pocetino , he love us , always will love us , Thinck at 5 years togather, and the Champions League moments, this club needs someone who love us and the club, and he its the right man.
Lets Chant in the stadium his song, and bring him back home,
Simon seriously doesn’t like having his pants pulled down, to use one of his favourite sayings!
A stadium is not part of PSR,yes. But it is certainly part of the complete business costs. And every business is about money.
Jordan’s. Rapid blinking says it all. How dare you have a pop at my mate Daniel
Simon shouldn't be involved in these conversations, all he does is defend his BFF
Stefan is wise beyond his yeuurz
This guy simon talks about others having a bias…not once has tott and levy been brought up and he didnt have a bias 😂. He gets red in face and immediately starts defending.
Simon definitely felt second fiddle here, he struggled to understand the factual numbers and didn't or just wouldn't put his mate Dan on the plank
Whilst it’s admirable that you defend your mate ‘Daniel’, it also stinks of wealth defending wealth.
Simon Jordan simply demonstrating his ignorance of the numbers.
Would trade the stadium for just 1 damn trophy! Levy wants all the money for himself and doesn't ever want to invest in the club. He doesn't love football or it's supporters
The goal of any football club should be to amass titles and trophies and sit just above break even on the money side. If you are not investing to win titles and trophies but amassing profit then you shouldn’t be running a football club….if you making a big profit but the squad quality and output on the field is decreasing then you are failing…regardless of the profit
Yup Spurs are in very good shape for the EFL Championship , Stefan Borson .
lol! Spurs are just not that club! Football is way down the list of success!
Simon normally your spot on but knock it off being so biased to your friends
Someone should ask the banks what their mortgage conditions are for Spurs. PSR isn't the only consideration....as soon as you take on £850m of commercial debt, covenants start to apply.
Spurs fans are going to eat this up! Levy is going to be STRESSING 😂😂😂
Ange said we are playing with fire not signing anyone. Well we are in danger of going down so we are on fire. Is Levy like Nero.
Anything steffan says is by default incorrect. Can’t remember the last time he was right about something.
Shame on Levy !! The most hated chairman in football with good reason. Get out of the club, you've turned it into something no fan asked for !!! No fan !!!
Try Chansiri at SWFC
Simon loves to use the fact he was an owner to make sweeping statements against logical numbers. I dislike the man greatly, the amount of arrogance is crazy.
Simon just got schooled, totally owned and embarrassed. He is just arguing for the sake of arguing.
But Levy is giving himself a pay rise.
Simon Jordan’s ego doesn’t cope well with intelligent discourse from a guest, especially when it nullifies his blinkered view on a topic.
Stop going to games and buying beer and club gear that simple
Absolutely cooked Simon
Simon telling a financial expert that he's wrong with the finances his explaining, but he doesn't have any skin in the game..... I really like Simon and agree with most of what he says, but when it comes to levy he defends him to the hilt and seems to be the only one who does son
They are probably saving money for the next manager that comes in.