@YourBoyQ254. Thank you. I went from upset, to realizing I was overvaluing these QB because we are so desperate. The FA QB list is very deep with all options out there. Sign a vet, Ride with them and AoC then get the franchise guy next year. The 2026 QB class is better. It’s the KC model. A Smith, become a playoff team, draft the franchise. In this draft I prefer TMac WR Arizona at #6
Just don’t understand how fans can think just because we get one of these quarterbacks things will change how many first round quarterbacks have been bust. Raider fan should know all about a first round quarterback look at our last one.
💯 If we rock a couple more off-seasons like this last one, we are going to have real team! This is what Raiders have been missing for decades. Staff and Telesco did a great job...the draft, UDFA's, FA, signing guys off of practice squads. This is the best group of young players I have seen in a long time. Building from the bottom up is the right way.
What aren't you getting? Look at our division, look around the league. You start by getting a franchise qb and keep trying till you get one. The Raiders haven't even tried since drafting that dope Derek Carr. There is no scenario where the Raiders improve at all other areas while ignoring the glaring hole at qb and then suddenly be in a position to draft said qb. It doesn't happen almost ever.
I can’t believe people are still crying about a first round pick from 20 plus years ago and different, GM, and different staff. Get over it. With that mindset we will always be mediocre. At some point we have to take a quarterback in the first round.
If we draft a qb we will give him 1 to 3 years to develop or go get a bridge qb. How come we are not giving AOC the same opportunity he has been thrown into some pretty bad situations and played pretty good.
He’s a downgraded version of Derek Carr. We didn’t even need him in that Chiefs game last year, he only put up 19 points against the WORST RANKED DEFENSE in the league and fucked us out of good draft positioning last Sunday. The offense is slow and struggles to put up points with him running it. I’m not saying Shedeur is the answer, but you’re just wasting time with AOC
Because he's a 4th round QB? Which means they didn't value him that highly. And because he hasn't played well enough to invest the future in him. If he's good enough, he'll just do what Brock Purdy did and outplay the #1 pick.
@@BigBrueser he s been with 4 different o.c. in one year. How do you evaluate a rookie in one year under those circumstances. Jayden Daniel's has benefited from having one o.c. in his first year. And a good o.c. as well. O Connell has had 2 first time o.c. s as well.
@@blacksunday4231 who is Purdy s play caller. One of the best in the buisness. Look at what o connell had in his first year 4 o.c. s 2 head coaches and 1 first time o.c. s at that. So to compare those two is not a very good comparison. O Connell with Shanahan would be a all pro and would be Tom Brady all over again
You never know who will move up and down during the draft process and after the combines. Going into bowl season last year it was Caleb and Daniels/Penix as the top 3 rated QBs. Need to wait at least until the combine to see some of these guys develop.
Alot of soft mf's on the internet. I've never heard or met a raider fan that's talk about tanking. I've only heard it from podcast influencers and on social media.
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@PatienceTalley nobody cares about your misguided principles. All the Raiders have done is lose for most of last 30 years and they will continue to with absolute garbage at qb. Other teams seem to understand this accept the hapless Raiders. But at least you can feel good that the Raiders refuse to "tank" while the losing goes on and on and on, year after year after year.
Thanks Q @ Ari. Appreciate it all. I’m late today seeing the Pod. I’m in TN so I listen to Chat Sports, wanting us to Lose. Can’t do it. If your a Raider you win at all cost. Period. Merry Christmas guys enjoy family time. It’s a Beaut Clark
Going back to when Mark Davis took over in 2011, I've been hearing "The Raiders are more than a few players away from contending for a SB". All these years later we're STILL hearing that! All the turnover of coaches, players, scouts, GMs, and they still cant get it right! Raiders are stuck in the abyss for perpetuity
I think AP was on board until Mark Davis made his comments in the owner’s meeting. He knows he’s in the hot seat now and is trying to win for the hell of it
@@Fonze1955 No, he doesn't because if he did then he would have went all in and draft Caleb Williams in this year's NFL draft but he didn't so that why the Raiders suck this season.
I've got my eye on Jaxson Dart who I think is going to be a number 3 or 4 QB in the draft off the board. If we can't get Sanders, I think Dart would be an excellent QB if he's available in the 2nd round but depending on his combine performance which I believe will be strong, he could very well be the 3rd or 4th best QB in the draft. I think he's the sleeper who will develop into a star QB.
Injuries have marred this season, Getsy being hired as OC was a huge mistake. This season was a wash, but the players have not quit on the season, we just have bad luck finishing games. The draft is always a crap shoot, I wouldn’t be mad if we drafted Travis Hunter for both sides of the ball.
I am happy for The Players, The Coaches, The Raiders Organization , Mark Davis for the win. Also when it comes to 1st round picks , I trust Tom Telesco.
Q, there are a lot of options for QB in the 2nd round.. most likely, the QB is going to sit out for at least 1 year anyway. Why not use the 1st pick that can start right away .. we have a lot of need ..
It’s not sane as cambell he had more experience but what’s similar is continuity and not firing everyone first year and letting pierce get his oc and qb
I always want to win. I couldn’t care less about draft position. Most high draft pick quarterbacks flop anyway. I certainly didn’t want Shedeur or Ward on the Raiders. Hell no.
Do you think they are going to lose on purpose? Pr ofessional athletes aren't going out there to lose. Not to mention, it's illegal. It's hilarious hearing ppl bitch about them winning, like they choose to win or lose.
@@TheeOriginalSurferbob Draft position makes a great an successful NFL team can only be built through the NFL draft. The Raiders are only a QB from winning it all so they need to hurry up and draft a real NFL QB who is a total gunslinger who has a cannon for an arm.
@ Whatever. If we get a quarterback in the draft or free agency or we already have him, I’ll never openly hope to lose a game ever. Not in my DNA. Furthermore, I don’t want either Shedeur or Ward. If I was drafting first you better believe Travis Hunter is the pick. My favorite quarterback in the draft next year has always been Jalen Milroe.
Yeah Tom has a huge mountain to climb. As he’s proven with the Chargers, you can get good players but if there is no one to coach them up it goes for not. Good game planning and adjusting is what the Raiders need. I am sour because they are paying all these coaches and what exactly are they doing?
Can't help but wonder how many picks we need to give up now to get Sanders or Ward! I know they were not trying to lose, but it sure looks like every other team that needs a QB is! We sure did lose a TON of capital by winning a meaningless game is factual though.
I don't get the Ameer Abdullah disrespect. The guy has done everything asked of him at a high level. He's not a superstar but a great veteran for any team.
If they don't like AOC, they should leave him free to play with a team that does value him, there will be no shortage of teams that will give him the opportunity.
@@Ltr87top We'll see and hopefully Derek Carr and Kamara play next game, I don't want pretexts from AOC haters when we win that game and also that the Chargerx play their full starting lineup, I want to see Aidan and B.Bowers win.
The only thing I don’t like if they celebrate like they have won a Super Bowl. You win the game feel happy and then move on to the next game. We are not a good team. Try to get better in free agency and the draft.
Its called taking one step back to take 2 steps forward. AP is a dope he must know he getting fired so he doesn't care what happens after he's let go. You'd think that after winning those useless games last year that only served to take the Raiders out of position to draft a qb he'd get it through his thick skull. Apparently not.
If Telesco and Brady and whomever feel that Sanders is their franchise QB then they’re going to do what they need to do to move up to draft him. It’s more realistic this draft within the top 6 to 10 as opposed to last draft coming from number 12.
For you Raider fans that do not have time to do research or watch college football or just are not experienced in Qb evaluations….Cam Ward is no doubt the Qb1 of this draft class. He plays Iowa St in a bowl game this week. Iowa State is ranked in the top 5 in pass defense. It will be Cam Ward’s first time all season facing a legit defense. If he does well, he will no doubt solidify his place as the first Qb targeted. Sanders is facing BYU this week. BYU is ranked 24th in pass defense. Sanders has only faced one other defense in the top 50, Utah (42nd). All other pass defenses faced by Sanders were ranked in the 70-133rd range. So the BYU game is important for Sanders stock to rise in the eyes of NFL GMs. His stock will drop as teams get closer to the draft because his size and arm strength isn’t ideal. What I mean drop, from a top 5 pick to mid 1st round to early day 2 pick. If he has a great BYU game, that will solidify his value as an early Day 1 pick. Will Howard, Ohio State stock is rising because of his size mobility and the competition he faced. Arm strength is ok, not super. Mobility is really good for a pocket Qb. Will run if defenses ignore him. Kurtis Rourke (Indiana) and Riley Leonard (Notre Dame) have the size but both are Day 3 Qbs that will project as nothing more than solid backups. The dark Horse is Jalen Milroe (Alabama) most likely he will go back to school for another year. If he chooses to declare for the draft, his potential will be too good to pass up for some teams. Expected a team who has a good starter that can afford to draft Jalen and groom him for a season or 2. Doug Gabriel (Oregon) is playing at a very high level at the moment. The playoffs is an opportunity for him to move into the Day 2 discussion if he continues having great games. NFL teams will fall in love with his tape…..however, like Sanders, the measurables will scare teams. Gabriel is a small 5’10 Qb. Bryce Young tier Sanders is taller but is a small 6’1 3/4” who cannot afford to gain too much weight. Gaining weight will only slow him down and he already isn’t very quick at all. Really good Qb when things are clean. Gabriel must be very aware of weight issues because his frame is built too stocky. Just my honest assessment of the film I have seen so far Merry Christmas Raider Nation
AP and his coaching staff have to be fired immediately because it didn’t work and that bs win that they did shows how trashy he really is he knows that he’s going to be fired and never get a chance again in the NFL
Roll with AOC, the more he plays especially with the current OC and offensive system, I believe AOC going into his 3rd year, this time as the starter, is better than any rookie QB coming into league. If you pair AOC with Ashton Jeanty with speed outta the backfield, defense would force man coverage at the corners and drop a safety in the box,McMillan with that catch radius , would force double coverage with the safety shading his way, would drastically change the dynamics of the offense, and strike some fear and force defensive coordinators to game plan these plug and play players. Let’s Go Raiders, play hard to WIN, Just sayin!!! Just another scenario 😂😂😂
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I really hope some guy who cuts his hair with a bowl isn't listening to a QB whose entire career was reliant on referees allowing his OL to hold on every play. No QB the Raiders have will be afforded that luxury. Every Christmas the league sends the Raiders front office an autographed flag with the message see you next year. Spencer Rattler looked pretty bad Monday. This could be the annual Aidan O'Connell puts up 60 points game. If last draft/offseason was any indication several teams draft in front of the Raiders could be looking for a QB. Even the Browns with that disastrous contract(they can only hope Watson gets injured or arrested or both)could be in the market. Raiders real problem is their front office. It's the same as it ever was. Too much meddling. As long as the players think they can leverage things by going over the coaches head they will never see success. Last year it was hire Pierce or I demand a trade. Derek Carr could be a June 1st cut.
Im not so sure ward and sanders are the top two ,there are still a couple of qbs that could improve their draft stock dramatically through the ncaa playoffs, the Ohio St. Qb has played as well as anybody over the month and a half
The fact that players, coaches, Mark Davis, and fans were celebrating like they won a playoff game is very troubling like seriously c'mon yall doing wayyyy tooo much.That shit sad
It's true, they celebrated cause their so accustomed to losing. And that loser mentality will continue to carry on for years to come, thanks to this meaningless win. And the players and coaches that are celebrating, they'll most likely be gone and play for another team, yet the fans remain loyal and are the ones stuck with this losing style of play. So obviously those coaches and players obviously don't care about the teams future, their out for themselves. And as fsr as Mark celebrating goes, what else you expect him to do, bitch and moan over a victory and tip his hand that he has the ream tanking which is illegal in the NFL? Possibly at the Federal level as well. Cmon man, SMARTEN UP. THIS WIN IS USELESS.
Sanders might still be available at # 6. There are a lot of NFL people who aren't very high on Sanders so if that's who they want, he might still be in play
AL would of fired Pierce for celebrating a 3rd win like that. If you think I'm full of shit, he fired Cable for celebrating not having a losing season but not making the playoffs.
Lots of people put down Aiden, but reality is they are not even 1% the QB Aiden is. The Rookie of last year has won more Raiders games than Minshew and I think Minshew should have started as Aidens vet presence backup. They were on a roll last year getting AP the job but I think they made the wrong choice by switching to Minshew. I been a fan since the 70s and always ! want them to win. And Raiders don't try to lose games for a draft pick utter nonsense. They always play to win even if their performance is lacking, they are not intentionally throwing games. We won big time with QBs like Stabler, Gannon, Plunkett. S Sanders is not a guarantee we will be successful, but if we got him cool I'll be rooting for him too. But whoever we got I'm a Raiders fan and I never want a loss , even if it s the last game in a 0 and 16 season. Go Raiders let's get that W
They're not interested in the QB. The QB isn't our problem it's the offensive line and the lack of a running back also we need defensive Backs. So in reality we need Hunter
Anyone who thinks the NFL and Mr. Image (Goodell) would let one of HIS franchises purposely lose is beyond dumb. Think of these teams as "Subway" sandwich shops who must follow corporate protocol to the letter.
AP you gave it a shot but it’s time for you to move on. We deserve a good coaching staff. And you’re not the man for the job. But you tried but just don’t got it good luck where ever they pick you up
We ARE one Franchise QB away from Everything! We got a good defense. We need a to upgrade the oline RB and add a Tee Higgins or the like and we ready to go! 🏴☠️
Is this your 1st draft? How many 1st rd QBs bust out? You don't know who and how the draft is going to fall. Bowl season has barely started and serious evaluators havent had a chance to analyze these draft picks.
Listen man ,that win means we’re not getting a quarterback. That win means we’re stuck with AOC that win means we’re picking 6th in the draft instead of 1st and that win means we’re not getting a real quarterback. We’re getting another couple of years with the bridge quarterback and now we’re gonna lose all next season for one win versus the Jacksonville Jaguars. I hope you’re happy Q you wanted to win. So now let’s just get the best offensive line guy pick 6 because with that win Knocks us out of getting a real quarterback
U have to think about what a tank does to the players the team when there trying to make more money next year, and same with coaches, it does long term damage , how do u go into a game sacrifice your body and just wimp out and just say the culture is ok not to try . I don’t care if im throwing the ball on thanksgiving day and playing in back yard , I wanna win. Same with these players . My thing was even when raiders wanna win they lose , this one was just cuz we played against sorry ass jags and so that’s why it feels worse plus the draft pick position but can’t blame the team
Acting like we won the Superbowl after a 10 games losing streak.... Blow it up. Keep Bowers and Trade Maxx for forcing Mark to hire the worst coach in the league. Davente, Jacobs, and Maxx were going to demand trades if Mark didn't do what they wanted. Jacobs is gone and Adams demanded a trade anyway. Maxx has been injured and his play this year is just average for Maxx. Paying all these fired coaches is Marks fault and we'll suffer for it if we keep AP
At the end of the day I’m not gonna fault coaches or players for winning a game. People will always divided no matter the topic. Go Raiders! God bless and Merry Christmas
These last two years highlight how important a good OC and the correct QB for that scheme is for a winning season. I have been and will continue to be an AOC fan and would like to see him get the time needed to work in a system and show he can develop into that franchise QB we need to have. Our draft picks should go towards OL for starters and depth. 12 & 13 personal packages will and should be the teams mantra. We have most of the players needed, adding a good power back and a pass catching FB/TE type to leave Bowers & Mayer on the line or split out. There is no reason we can not pick up or draft power linemen. Power "play action" is and will always be viable and a 2nd half beast. Keep our defense solid, bring back players we have and win games.
What's wrong with the Raiders they win when they should lose? Why are they so happy after a meaningless win? At 3 and 12 record I don't get it? The real news the Raiders moved to 6 spot in the draft from 1 spot. The interview should be saying why didn't you play Ridder at QB that's what a real coach would of done with the 2 and 12 record. I guess this is what AP came up with win to not get me a top QB in draft. Raiders waited 40 years to get an opportunity to get in position with an 2 and 12 record and AP comes up playing lights out playing Aiden has great game. This is what it is being a Raiders fan no method to this madness. This is like somebody selling you the winning lottery ticket worth 100 million you buy it for 5,000 buckets all the money in your bank. Then you fine out its a fake ticket when its to late. Disappointment not happy with this win AP.
Cam Ward isn’t very good either. We already have a better QB than that in Aidan O’Connell. Ward sucks. He throws the ball up for grabs too much. He can’t even see over his offensive line. Why he’s listed at 6’2” is beyond me, but he’s not 6’2”. He’s about 5’11”
Q, why are you stuck on Shadeur Sanders? You were also stuck on Davante way too long and on AP long after the evidence overwhelmingly shows he can’t manage a game and that the things under AP’s control are a mess. Some strange takes. You’re also a public figure, so you’re going ti hear from haters and toxic people. Why toss other fans in with those folks?
What the hell are you to idiots talking about. Shadeur sanders is a clear cut choice for us and y’all wanna make excuses why not to take him. Y’all sound dumb.
It ironic. The Raiders Quote is 'JUST WIN BABY'. But the useless win that put the Raiders out of the 1st pick in 2025 draft that COULD put the organization in a position to in fact WIN and WIN THE BIG ONE, decides to win However that win will only put them in a position to in fact LOSE and moast likely get the same thing he have been in the past 20 years which is have a team with so much talent but never good enough to TO JUST WIN, b/c you have no QB. So could have just lose to get that star QB so we can in fact'JUST WIN!'
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Raiders win against the Jags is equal to losing $100 a month on Lotto then getting a $2 winner thinking you won, but in reality you still lost $98.
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Ain’t none of these teams gonna win. We the only ones that let’s pride over take common sense
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at the same time… Sanders is not worth the top pick… But Cam… there’s a pause there. His ceiling is crazy high
@YourBoyQ254. Thank you. I went from upset, to realizing I was overvaluing these QB because we are so desperate. The FA QB list is very deep with all options out there. Sign a vet, Ride with them and AoC then get the franchise guy next year. The 2026 QB class is better. It’s the KC model. A Smith, become a playoff team, draft the franchise. In this draft I prefer TMac WR Arizona at #6
Just don’t understand how fans can think just because we get one of these quarterbacks things will change how many first round quarterbacks have been bust. Raider fan should know all about a first round quarterback look at our last one.
💯 If we rock a couple more off-seasons like this last one, we are going to have real team! This is what Raiders have been missing for decades. Staff and Telesco did a great job...the draft, UDFA's, FA, signing guys off of practice squads. This is the best group of young players I have seen in a long time. Building from the bottom up is the right way.
What aren't you getting? Look at our division, look around the league. You start by getting a franchise qb and keep trying till you get one. The Raiders haven't even tried since drafting that dope Derek Carr. There is no scenario where the Raiders improve at all other areas while ignoring the glaring hole at qb and then suddenly be in a position to draft said qb. It doesn't happen almost ever.
I can’t believe people are still crying about a first round pick from 20 plus years ago and different, GM, and different staff. Get over it. With that mindset we will always be mediocre. At some point we have to take a quarterback in the first round.
True a recent history of complete incompetence
It's a process the first step is have a QB then fire the 🤡 AP and get a good couch
If we draft a qb we will give him 1 to 3 years to develop or go get a bridge qb. How come we are not giving AOC the same opportunity he has been thrown into some pretty bad situations and played pretty good.
He’s a downgraded version of Derek Carr. We didn’t even need him in that Chiefs game last year, he only put up 19 points against the WORST RANKED DEFENSE in the league and fucked us out of good draft positioning last Sunday. The offense is slow and struggles to put up points with him running it. I’m not saying Shedeur is the answer, but you’re just wasting time with AOC
Because he's a 4th round QB? Which means they didn't value him that highly. And because he hasn't played well enough to invest the future in him. If he's good enough, he'll just do what Brock Purdy did and outplay the #1 pick.
@@BigBrueser he s been with 4 different o.c. in one year. How do you evaluate a rookie in one year under those circumstances. Jayden Daniel's has benefited from having one o.c. in his first year. And a good o.c. as well. O Connell has had 2 first time o.c. s as well.
@@blacksunday4231 who is Purdy s play caller. One of the best in the buisness. Look at what o connell had in his first year 4 o.c. s 2 head coaches and 1 first time o.c. s at that. So to compare those two is not a very good comparison. O Connell with Shanahan would be a all pro and would be Tom Brady all over again
AOC second string at best.
You never know who will move up and down during the draft process and after the combines. Going into bowl season last year it was Caleb and Daniels/Penix as the top 3 rated QBs. Need to wait at least until the combine to see some of these guys develop.
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Alot of soft mf's on the internet. I've never heard or met a raider fan that's talk about tanking. I've only heard it from podcast influencers and on social media.
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@PatienceTalley nobody cares about your misguided principles. All the Raiders have done is lose for most of last 30 years and they will continue to with absolute garbage at qb. Other teams seem to understand this accept the hapless Raiders. But at least you can feel good that the Raiders refuse to "tank" while the losing goes on and on and on, year after year after year.
Thanks Q @ Ari. Appreciate it all. I’m late today seeing the Pod. I’m in TN so I listen to Chat Sports, wanting us to Lose. Can’t do it. If your a Raider you win at all cost. Period. Merry Christmas guys enjoy family time. It’s a Beaut Clark
Merry Christmas Dave! Great reference too lol - Ari
Going back to when Mark Davis took over in 2011, I've been hearing "The Raiders are more than a few players away from contending for a SB". All these years later we're STILL hearing that! All the turnover of coaches, players, scouts, GMs, and they still cant get it right! Raiders are stuck in the abyss for perpetuity
Owner has a 3 year window. He’s not afraid to abandon the plan early. & that’s better than staying a year too long.
The Raiders best players are always leaving.
Make me wonder if theres a divide between Telesco and AP because Telesco wants to tank and AP doesnt.
AP will still be the coach now it’s all on Tom Telesco to fix it
Telesco wants to win
I think AP was on board until Mark Davis made his comments in the owner’s meeting. He knows he’s in the hot seat now and is trying to win for the hell of it
@@praytriotwe only won cause we played the jags. we losing next couple games
@@Fonze1955 No, he doesn't because if he did then he would have went all in and draft Caleb Williams in this year's NFL draft but he didn't so that why the Raiders suck this season.
I've got my eye on Jaxson Dart who I think is going to be a number 3 or 4 QB in the draft off the board. If we can't get Sanders, I think Dart would be an excellent QB if he's available in the 2nd round but depending on his combine performance which I believe will be strong, he could very well be the 3rd or 4th best QB in the draft. I think he's the sleeper who will develop into a star QB.
Injuries have marred this season, Getsy being hired as OC was a huge mistake. This season was a wash, but the players have not quit on the season, we just have bad luck finishing games. The draft is always a crap shoot, I wouldn’t be mad if we drafted Travis Hunter for both sides of the ball.
AP said he doesn’t care about anybody’s fantasy football or their draft projection after 1984 that organization hasn’t won enough🏆🏆🏆
I am happy for The Players, The Coaches, The Raiders Organization , Mark Davis for the win. Also when it comes to 1st round picks , I trust Tom Telesco.
GM Telesco that's not good enough the Chargers got rid of him.
@whatsup7253 yeah , I know fire him. Then fire AP and start all over. 🤣
Q, there are a lot of options for QB in the 2nd round.. most likely, the QB is going to sit out for at least 1 year anyway. Why not use the 1st pick that can start right away .. we have a lot of need ..
Excuse the spelling and grammar issues Q! May y'all enjoy your holidays. Raiders 4 Life!
It’s not sane as cambell he had more experience but what’s similar is continuity and not firing everyone first year and letting pierce get his oc and qb
How does winning matter when you won 3 games…
I always want to win. I couldn’t care less about draft position. Most high draft pick quarterbacks flop anyway. I certainly didn’t want Shedeur or Ward on the Raiders. Hell no.
Do you think they are going to lose on purpose? Pr ofessional athletes aren't going out there to lose. Not to mention, it's illegal. It's hilarious hearing ppl bitch about them winning, like they choose to win or lose.
@@TheeOriginalSurferbob Draft position makes a great an successful NFL team can only be built through the NFL draft. The Raiders are only a QB from winning it all so they need to hurry up and draft a real NFL QB who is a total gunslinger who has a cannon for an arm.
@ Whatever. If we get a quarterback in the draft or free agency or we already have him, I’ll never openly hope to lose a game ever. Not in my DNA. Furthermore, I don’t want either Shedeur or Ward. If I was drafting first you better believe Travis Hunter is the pick. My favorite quarterback in the draft next year has always been Jalen Milroe.
@@TheeOriginalSurferbobwell then I guess you are cool with 5-13 seasons congratulations!
Yeah Tom has a huge mountain to climb. As he’s proven with the Chargers, you can get good players but if there is no one to coach them up it goes for not. Good game planning and adjusting is what the Raiders need. I am sour because they are paying all these coaches and what exactly are they doing?
Can't help but wonder how many picks we need to give up now to get Sanders or Ward! I know they were not trying to lose, but it sure looks like every other team that needs a QB is! We sure did lose a TON of capital by winning a meaningless game is factual though.
Cam Ward sucks! He’s a for sure bust!!!
Aidan O'Connell wants that starting job bad. You can see it‼️
He’s not even top 32
@@mateo61323 AOC's not an elite 10 NFL QB so is a total bust.
@@tribeofissachar7774 Exactly!
@@tribeofissachar7774lol he's not even a top 30 QB. Top 10? 😂
There are backups in the league that are better than Aidan, so I'm being nice when I say he's isn't top 30.
I don't get the Ameer Abdullah disrespect. The guy has done everything asked of him at a high level. He's not a superstar but a great veteran for any team.
If they don't like AOC, they should leave him free to play with a team that does value him, there will be no shortage of teams that will give him the opportunity.
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@Taddy707 Is that how you laughed when Jecobs left the team???
@@neroniconni5024 nah I wanted to keep Jacobs. He’s a stud. AOC is not a stud.
….to sit on the bench
@@Ltr87top We'll see and hopefully Derek Carr and Kamara play next game, I don't want pretexts from AOC haters when we win that game and also that the Chargerx play their full starting lineup, I want to see Aidan and B.Bowers win.
The only thing I don’t like if they celebrate like they have won a Super Bowl. You win the game feel happy and then move on to the next game. We are not a good team. Try to get better in free agency and the draft.
I don't really see the point in only focusing in negatives firy qbs. Leaves out what they do well
We play to win not to loose for a draft pick which is 50/50 crap shoot or even less when picking a QB
Its called taking one step back to take 2 steps forward. AP is a dope he must know he getting fired so he doesn't care what happens after he's let go. You'd think that after winning those useless games last year that only served to take the Raiders out of position to draft a qb he'd get it through his thick skull. Apparently not.
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If Telesco and Brady and whomever feel that Sanders is their franchise QB then they’re going to do what they need to do to move up to draft him. It’s more realistic this draft within the top 6 to 10 as opposed to last draft coming from number 12.
Jaxson Dart ismy pick for QB
Raiders still have an opportunity to have the 3rd or 4 th pick. Hags and Titans play each other and the Browns could win a game
problem is our team plays an injured Saints and LAC may sit their starters… especially their QB
Browns aren’t winning if Winston is on the bench DTR is not it.
For you Raider fans that do not have time to do research or watch college football or just are not experienced in Qb evaluations….Cam Ward is no doubt the Qb1 of this draft class. He plays Iowa St in a bowl game this week. Iowa State is ranked in the top 5 in pass defense. It will be Cam Ward’s first time all season facing a legit defense. If he does well, he will no doubt solidify his place as the first Qb targeted.
Sanders is facing BYU this week. BYU is ranked 24th in pass defense. Sanders has only faced one other defense in the top 50, Utah (42nd). All other pass defenses faced by Sanders were ranked in the 70-133rd range. So the BYU game is important for Sanders stock to rise in the eyes of NFL GMs. His stock will drop as teams get closer to the draft because his size and arm strength isn’t ideal. What I mean drop, from a top 5 pick to mid 1st round to early day 2 pick. If he has a great BYU game, that will solidify his value as an early Day 1 pick.
Will Howard, Ohio State stock is rising because of his size mobility and the competition he faced. Arm strength is ok, not super. Mobility is really good for a pocket Qb. Will run if defenses ignore him.
Kurtis Rourke (Indiana) and Riley Leonard (Notre Dame) have the size but both are Day 3 Qbs that will project as nothing more than solid backups.
The dark Horse is Jalen Milroe (Alabama) most likely he will go back to school for another year. If he chooses to declare for the draft, his potential will be too good to pass up for some teams. Expected a team who has a good starter that can afford to draft Jalen and groom him for a season or 2.
Doug Gabriel (Oregon) is playing at a very high level at the moment. The playoffs is an opportunity for him to move into the Day 2 discussion if he continues having great games. NFL teams will fall in love with his tape…..however, like Sanders, the measurables will scare teams. Gabriel is a small 5’10 Qb. Bryce Young tier
Sanders is taller but is a small 6’1 3/4” who cannot afford to gain too much weight. Gaining weight will only slow him down and he already isn’t very quick at all. Really good Qb when things are clean. Gabriel must be very aware of weight issues because his frame is built too stocky.
Just my honest assessment of the film I have seen so far
Merry Christmas Raider Nation
AP and his coaching staff have to be fired immediately because it didn’t work and that bs win that they did shows how trashy he really is he knows that he’s going to be fired and never get a chance again in the NFL
I think they Like Dillon Gabriel. Why else would they be fine with wrecking their tank?
Zero chance TT drafts a 5’10” qb. He’s been around Luck, Rivers and Herbert. All of those guys are over 6’4”.
@@paulleclaire8252 he was on the staff that drafted manning too
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Jalen Milroe! Draft Abdul Carter, sign T Higgs and Javonte Williams.
Roll with AOC, the more he plays especially with the current OC and offensive system, I believe AOC going into his 3rd year, this time as the starter, is better than any rookie QB coming into league. If you pair AOC with Ashton Jeanty with speed outta the backfield, defense would force man coverage at the corners and drop a safety in the box,McMillan with that catch radius , would force double coverage with the safety shading his way, would drastically change the dynamics of the offense, and strike some fear and force defensive coordinators to game plan these plug and play players. Let’s Go Raiders, play hard to WIN, Just sayin!!! Just another scenario 😂😂😂
I would give a 3rd, 4th, and a 2nd from next year’s draft to Minnesota for Jj McCarthy for our franchise QB, for our 2nd draft a solid running back
Raiders should continue best player available, seemed to work the last time.
We’re 3-12…it did NOT work
Cooper RUSH , Carr, Russell Wilson, Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, Will Levis, Watson, Winston, Dak
Sam Darnold, Kirk Cousins, Rodgers, Andy Dalton, Trey Lance, Mac Jones, Carson Wentz, Heinicke, Joe Flacco,
Need to sign someone to back up O'Connell.
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@@leroythemaster4268 Hell no! The Raiders need to get rid of AOC and Minshew and draft a real NFL QB.
@@oohhsedagod6183 back up you say. AOC and Minshew are more like members of the practice squad.
@@tribeofissachar7774 You want to go into next season's training camp with only 2 QB's?
Fire Minshew without a doubt but no chance we cut O'Connell.
Q works for the raiders wat we expect him to say ?
He doesn't work for the raiders, he works for Lotus Broadcasting, Espn and Locked On Raiders. - Ari
@ they still covers the raiders he aint gonna shit on them
Kurtis Rourke might be decent . . .
I really hope some guy who cuts his hair with a bowl isn't listening to a QB whose entire career was reliant on referees allowing his OL to hold on every play. No QB the Raiders have will be afforded that luxury. Every Christmas the league sends the Raiders front office an autographed flag with the message see you next year. Spencer Rattler looked pretty bad Monday. This could be the annual Aidan O'Connell puts up 60 points game. If last draft/offseason was any indication several teams draft in front of the Raiders could be looking for a QB. Even the Browns with that disastrous contract(they can only hope Watson gets injured or arrested or both)could be in the market. Raiders real problem is their front office. It's the same as it ever was. Too much meddling. As long as the players think they can leverage things by going over the coaches head they will never see success. Last year it was hire Pierce or I demand a trade. Derek Carr could be a June 1st cut.
Sanders is on Milrow and Gabriel's level not Wards
Im not so sure ward and sanders are the top two ,there are still a couple of qbs that could improve their draft stock dramatically through the ncaa playoffs, the Ohio St. Qb has played as well as anybody over the month and a half
The fact that players, coaches, Mark Davis, and fans were celebrating like they won a playoff game is very troubling like seriously c'mon yall doing wayyyy tooo much.That shit sad
Agreed
It's true, they celebrated cause their so accustomed to losing. And that loser mentality will continue to carry on for years to come, thanks to this meaningless win. And the players and coaches that are celebrating, they'll most likely be gone and play for another team, yet the fans remain loyal and are the ones stuck with this losing style of play. So obviously those coaches and players obviously don't care about the teams future, their out for themselves. And as fsr as Mark celebrating goes, what else you expect him to do, bitch and moan over a victory and tip his hand that he has the ream tanking which is illegal in the NFL? Possibly at the Federal level as well. Cmon man, SMARTEN UP. THIS WIN IS USELESS.
@ ???
Who are you to make that evaluation? 😂
@blacksuede It's my opinion not evaluation fool 😂
Sanders might still be available at # 6. There are a lot of NFL people who aren't very high on Sanders so if that's who they want, he might still be in play
He sucks, not worth a 1st round pick
@@johnhendrickson3560all because he a Sanders I get it
Both QBs are Geno Smith 2.0.😩
Sanders would be the six quarterback taken in last year’s draft. He’s no savior. Plus he’s a drama queen.
@shawnstandiford6008 That's a BS lie....they said that he would've been the 3rd or 4th QB in the 2023 draft
AL would of fired Pierce for celebrating a 3rd win like that. If you think I'm full of shit, he fired Cable for celebrating not having a losing season but not making the playoffs.
Lots of people put down Aiden, but reality is they are not even 1% the QB Aiden is. The Rookie of last year has won more Raiders games than Minshew and I think Minshew should have started as Aidens vet presence backup. They were on a roll last year getting AP the job but I think they made the wrong choice by switching to Minshew. I been a fan since the 70s and always ! want them to win. And Raiders don't try to lose games for a draft pick utter nonsense. They always play to win even if their performance is lacking, they are not intentionally throwing games. We won big time with QBs like Stabler, Gannon, Plunkett. S Sanders is not a guarantee we will be successful, but if we got him cool I'll be rooting for him too. But whoever we got I'm a Raiders fan and I never want a loss , even if it s the last game in a 0 and 16 season. Go Raiders let's get that W
They're not interested in the QB. The QB isn't our problem it's the offensive line and the lack of a running back also we need defensive Backs. So in reality we need Hunter
The team is not. QB away from winning. The teams that's in front of us so call have their Qb. Probably still can a good man
AOC for QB1 2025 🏴☠️☠️🏴☠️☠️
I predicted they would go 12-5 with what I saw on paper with the draft etc, was I wrong
I hear ya, they looked pretty dang solid early on. I said 10 wins boy were we wrong. - Ari
Anyone who thinks the NFL and Mr. Image (Goodell) would let one of HIS franchises purposely lose is beyond dumb. Think of these teams as "Subway" sandwich shops who must follow corporate protocol to the letter.
People just like to argue. lol
With our team we don't need a new Qb rookie! We need a vet now. Sam Darnold will be free agent next year after he choke this season.
AP you gave it a shot but it’s time for you to move on. We deserve a good coaching staff. And you’re not the man for the job. But you tried but just don’t got it good luck where ever they pick you up
Drew breezee wasnt a big guy with a big arm. Many other successful QBs didn't with physically
Drew Brees also had Sean Peyton as his HC…which looking at Bo Nix this year, it’s quite obvious we need a better coaching staff
We ARE one Franchise QB away from Everything! We got a good defense. We need a to upgrade the oline RB and add a Tee Higgins or the like and we ready to go! 🏴☠️
Hope AP gets atleast one more year I think he will be good long as they get him a QB next year it will be be his SHOW ME year
So man, so now what get Justin Fields? Hahahahahahahahaha that’s what you wanted that win. Hahahahahaha
Is this your 1st draft? How many 1st rd QBs bust out? You don't know who and how the draft is going to fall. Bowl season has barely started and serious evaluators havent had a chance to analyze these draft picks.
Dillion Gabriel isn’t an nfl qb. He’s 5’10” with a weak arm. No thanks.
I’d rather take Jalen Milroe.
@ 100% - big arm, freak athlete.
You know Brady will want to draft a QB in the 6th Round.
Listen man ,that win means we’re not getting a quarterback. That win means we’re stuck with AOC that win means we’re picking 6th in the draft instead of 1st and that win means we’re not getting a real quarterback. We’re getting another couple of years with the bridge quarterback and now we’re gonna lose all next season for one win versus the Jacksonville Jaguars. I hope you’re happy Q you wanted to win. So now let’s just get the best offensive line guy pick 6 because with that win Knocks us out of getting a real quarterback
" A.P. should have went with " A O.C.
in the BEGINNING !!!
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Why he's a career backup at best @@JamesWhite-sl2sb
AOC is a winner should have been the starter all season your right AP needs to go.
@@mikemartin9751 lol 😂😂😂
U have to think about what a tank does to the players the team when there trying to make more money next year, and same with coaches, it does long term damage , how do u go into a game sacrifice your body and just wimp out and just say the culture is ok not to try . I don’t care if im throwing the ball on thanksgiving day and playing in back yard , I wanna win. Same with these players . My thing was even when raiders wanna win they lose , this one was just cuz we played against sorry ass jags and so that’s why it feels worse plus the draft pick position but can’t blame the team
Why are the raider's going to do anything worthwhile they never do
Just win out baby!
Just lose out in 2025 baby!!!
AP is dreaming, even a broke clock is right twice a day.. AP has no future in any NFL team, maybe high school or possibly fantasy football influencers
He is also being sued for about $30 million for some bad investments he was involved in.
@@leroythemaster4268bottom line AP is an idiot
Acting like we won the Superbowl after a 10 games losing streak.... Blow it up. Keep Bowers and Trade Maxx for forcing Mark to hire the worst coach in the league. Davente, Jacobs, and Maxx were going to demand trades if Mark didn't do what they wanted. Jacobs is gone and Adams demanded a trade anyway. Maxx has been injured and his play this year is just average for Maxx. Paying all these fired coaches is Marks fault and we'll suffer for it if we keep AP
I’m not opposed to this plan. But, keep him until Sanders comes. They go 1-3 fire him. Definitely have to blow it up, though.
I agree a thousand percent brother..
Man keep Max out of this. He got injured and you want to throw him in the trash. Mad Max is not the GM or the owner. He is a Raider for life!!!!!
@@larceowalters4717 he put his name on it
@@BigfoxN-A-chiccenhouse don’t matter. He doesn’t call the shots
At the end of the day I’m not gonna fault coaches or players for winning a game. People will always divided no matter the topic. Go Raiders! God bless and Merry Christmas
Fire the 🤡 AP
Lol, you guys are acting like this win knocked the Chiefs outta playoff contention 😂 The only thing you guys really won was the 6th pick.
These last two years highlight how important a good OC and the correct QB for that scheme is for a winning season. I have been and will continue to be an AOC fan and would like to see him get the time needed to work in a system and show he can develop into that franchise QB we need to have. Our draft picks should go towards OL for starters and depth. 12 & 13 personal packages will and should be the teams mantra. We have most of the players needed, adding a good power back and a pass catching FB/TE type to leave Bowers & Mayer on the line or split out. There is no reason we can not pick up or draft power linemen. Power "play action" is and will always be viable and a 2nd half beast. Keep our defense solid, bring back players we have and win games.
2nd rd. @ pick 37 QB Jalon Milroe Leeets GOOO!
They've definitely been losing intentionally
What's wrong with the Raiders they win when they should lose? Why are they so happy after a meaningless win? At 3 and 12 record I don't get it? The real news the Raiders moved to 6 spot in the draft from 1 spot. The interview should be saying why didn't you play Ridder at QB that's what a real coach would of done with the 2 and 12 record. I guess this is what AP came up with win to not get me a top QB in draft. Raiders waited 40 years to get an opportunity to get in position with an 2 and 12 record and AP comes up playing lights out playing Aiden has great game. This is what it is being a Raiders fan no method to this madness. This is like somebody selling you the winning lottery ticket worth 100 million you buy it for 5,000 buckets all the money in your bank. Then you fine out its a fake ticket when its to late. Disappointment not happy with this win AP.
Stop trying to get names for quarterbacks Tom Brady was not first round draft pick
No they don’t. Rocket Money is a useless subscription that’s hard to cancel in itself! 😂 lmfao
Sam Darnold is having a career year. He has all the tools and experience.
And a elite playcaller
Hey , will he even WANT TO COME TO THE " RAIDERS ?
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@JamesWhite-sl2sb If the money is right. I imagine he's going to get a lot of interest. Cheers
Cam Ward isn’t very good either. We already have a better QB than that in Aidan O’Connell. Ward sucks. He throws the ball up for grabs too much. He can’t even see over his offensive line. Why he’s listed at 6’2” is beyond me, but he’s not 6’2”. He’s about 5’11”
RAIDERS MUST TRADE UP IN THE 2025 NFL DRAFT FOR THE 1# OVERALL PICK TO SELECT SHADEUR SANDERS...
Q, why are you stuck on Shadeur Sanders? You were also stuck on Davante way too long and on AP long after the evidence overwhelmingly shows he can’t manage a game and that the things under AP’s control are a mess. Some strange takes. You’re also a public figure, so you’re going ti hear from haters and toxic people. Why toss other fans in with those folks?
Bc he don't know wtf he's talking about
This dude is a simp
What the hell are you to idiots talking about. Shadeur sanders is a clear cut choice for us and y’all wanna make excuses why not to take him. Y’all sound dumb.
@@Thomas-ze2euit’s pretty clear we need a QB and y’all wanna pass on one again. 🤣🤣🤣
@@devinsmith4862 ( lmo ) WARD IS A BETTER Q.B , OVERALL !
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Telesco & AP aren't on the same page! AP said it's a Telesco issue! AP has major issues! RN4L 🔥 ☠️ 🏈 🤬 🔥
It ironic. The Raiders Quote is 'JUST WIN BABY'.
But the useless win that put the Raiders out of the 1st pick in 2025 draft that COULD put the organization in a position to in fact WIN and WIN THE BIG ONE, decides to win However that win will only put them in a position to in fact LOSE and moast likely get the same thing he have been in the past 20 years which is have a team with so much talent but never good enough to TO JUST WIN, b/c you have no QB.
So could have just lose to get that star QB so we can in fact'JUST WIN!'
they have a QB they need a good back up
Cooper RUSH would be a good option,,,,, if we ran an Offense similar to Dallas.
The f out of here with Cooper Rush that is a back up and he’s been a back up and that’s all he is going to be as a back up
@@SouthDakotaRaider lol lol 😂
#FIRE A.P ON THE SPOT AFTER THE GAME AGAINST THE SAINTS ON THE FIELD AFTER ANOTHER LOSS PLEASE 😢!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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