I been at a church for the last 3 years.....God has blessed me significantly to pursue him and the word. Iam a non-denominational guy but the church is Pentecostal. I absolutely believe in the gifts and movement of the Holy Spirit but Gods word isnt telling me to be a denomination. That being said the last 6 months the pastor has been pushing the we Pentecostal and us Pentecostal more and more and iam kind of checking out. I've been praying and asking God to help me with the sermon and wisdom because I don't want to be too critical but there's some things I've seen and heard that don't line up with scripture and I'm definitely believing that the season is changing for me. Godly advice and wisdom would be greatly appreciated from anyone in this position and has been through it, thank you and God Bless
Perhaps the Lord is helping you understand that he is not exactly in favor of denominationalism. The fact that it exists shows to all the world that believers cannot be in agreement on certain issues or doctrines. All one needs to do is read 1 Corinthians 1:10-13. We are all supposed to be in the same mind and judgment, not embrace the differences like some ecumenical hippie gathering. We are not to give ourselves names like Paul said I am of Cephas or I am of Apollos etc. So the names are now I am Pentecostal or I am Baptist, etc. Where is that in the Bible? Unfortunately man has added to things that are not proven through scripture. Yet they are viewed as normal simply because too many people have accepted it. So here is where you find out where you really stand. With the Bible or with man made churchianity.
@@jimproxy3459I grew up Pentecostal and it was all the Christianity I ever knew until a few years ago. There are currently many issues with Pentecostal denominations, and I say this as someone who loves my Pentecostal brothers and sisters. Some classical Pentecostals are also calling out the apostasy within their denomination and I appreciate that. The difficult part is that Pentecostals make you think they're so spiritual and you let your guard down and then trust them. That's when the devil subtly introduces false theology twisting the Bible and it's easy to believe when you trust them unless the Lord illuminates your heart and mind to see this. Then, it's up to you to trust Him and leave a typical Pentecostal church and search for a biblically sound church. Leaving Pentecostal theology (with all its bells and whistles) for a biblically faithful church is one of the best things for my spiritual growth and sanctification that God has done for me. If we would just trust Him and take Him at His Word, we would truly see His hand at work in our lives instead of pretending we're so spiritual by claiming to have all these supernatural experiences which don't help us deny ourselves, pick up our cross, and follow Him. I highly recommend prayerfully looking for a new church. Please feel free to ask any questions. I recommend using church directories from G3, Founders', The Masters Seminary, The Gospel Coalition
I think it is true that God is trying to reach out to you to not be involved in denominationalism, which makes sense to me if one reads 1st Corinthians ch1 therefore it doesn’t make sense to again find another church as the last commenter is asserting. More so when there is an admission that Pentacostalism is flawed. The church directories mentioned include Pentecostal churches so if I am looking for a church and the church near me is affiliated with Pentacostalism then what does one do? Especially if one is not aware of what exactly they are doing that is not in agreement with the Bible or any church for that matter? The main point isn’t to come out of the frying pan and get back on it with some other church but to follow God’s words not the many clubs man has created.
Checking if the church has a "high view of scripture": in my experience this is much harder to determine than it appears on the surface. I've been in multiple churches that claim to love God's word and obey it. Months later it becomes apparent that they do not. Some good ways to check this early on would be helpful.
For me attending, growing and serving within your LOCAL church, within specific boundaries of creed and practice, is an important value both from a practical standpoint but also you serve best and can invite and disciple others in your own geographical area. A LOCAL church will also hopefully represent the needs of the community around you best who can again allows you to attend and serve there well. 11:32
1. The right preaching (Bible-based; "high view of Scripture"); 2. the right practice (of church ordinances/baptism and "the Lord's Table"); 3. the right practice of church discipline... Based on this, it is EXTREMELY difficult (or impossible) to find a "good" local church.
I was using your "decides" as a quote, but certainly people wrongly interpret/exegete, etc. all the time; that is why it states "the right preaching" (ie. sound doctrine)
Thank you for doing this video. I would love more content on this subject. We are in an area that doesn’t have a church that practices all three of the basic foundations. The practice of church discipline is the one that you just can’t find in my area. My husband and I have been praying about moving out of state so that we can be part of a true church. We need the Lord’s wisdom and guidance.
@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen the same church that had holy wars, burned people at the stake, who sold indulgences, who provoke idolatry, Mary worship, infant baptism, works for salvation. This is a place you need to run away from not go to. ua-cam.com/video/pk2C0xUTqrM/v-deo.html
I love my church but they are CONSTANTLY asking for money: double offerings, fund raising events, now in January a challenge to tithe and if you’re not happy with the results a “money back guarantee.” We have been here for almost a decade and I love serving, love my church family and love the pastor. It’s a multi campus Presbyterian church and I believe it’s the lead pastor making these decisions. I just don’t know how much longer we can take being continually pressured to give so much. We love being generous but when your church brings in over 1.5 million dollars a year and it’s STILL not enough, I just don’t know where we go from here. We stay because we do believe it checks off those top three items and we know there’s no such thing as a perfect church. It’s just not always easy.
So why are you sticking around? You should have left that church a looooong time ago. Is it because you think you ought to tithe or something. I'm trying to figure out what are your reasons for giving to such a church.
I suggest you ask yourself and also take it to the Lord in prayer: "Why do I love this church? Is it because of the people, the music, the personalities (staff), the activities, OR is it because we (both the people and leaders) are being faithful to God's Word?" Remember the words of the Lord when He said "whoever loves father and mother more than me is not worthy of me." I say this as someone who understands how extremely difficult it is to leave a church and friends and family behind as you seek to honor the Lord by finding a faithful church. I've been through this. It was a long process (about 2 years), but I can now say it was so worth it to trust the Lord. It may cost you most of your relationships, but it's so worth it to trust the Lord. Please take it to the Lord in prayer and don't be afraid to take a leap of faith as long you're seeking to obey His good will.
Sounds like they have a problem with money and have become desperate so much so that they are imposing the misconstrued idea of tithing. Tithing had to do with food not money. It was part of the old Testament not the New Testament.
Sometimes the best thing to do is not to look for one as it really isn't a scriptural doctrine. If you want to share the gospel with your fellow brethren do what everyone did in the Bible go to each others homes and have a good and intimate Bible study and invite several people. Safer, easier and practical.
Thank for making this video on a important issue. My question what about if you are in a church that calms to be reform but preaches a legalistic and works base sermons and never gets to the gospel in any meaningful way?
I go to a very good biblical church, one where the pastor went to John Mc Arthur seminary and I happen to live in a small town in Washington state !it checks off these rules…I happen to believe in a post tribulation rapture which most don’t believe in and my church doesn’t either but I will not let it divide me and my fellow believers I only wish that things that are up for interpretation would be preached as such but instead most preaching is done like this is 100% the way it is. Makes more sense to me to say “ we believe this is what the Bible is saying but God knows for sure and we will be open “ I’m 90% sure in post trib but I’m not perfect so we should be open to a different interpretation when the Bible isn’t crystal clear in some areas
The only real biblical church is the Catholic Church. That is the church that gave us the Canon of Scripture and preseeved it faithfully for 1,500 years by hand until the printing press was invented.
@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen the same church that had holy wars, burned people at the stake, who sold indulgences, who provoke idolatry, Mary worship, infant baptism, works for salvation. This is a place you need to run away from not go to. ua-cam.com/video/pk2C0xUTqrM/v-deo.html
One thing I would personally advise anyone that's looking for a Church, walk straight in and ask them for a statement of faith in detail...believe it or not there are churches out there that disguise who they are and what they're about. Imagine setting in a church for months and then one day Oneness theology creeps off the pulpit. That happened to me as a new Christian. They say it can take as little as 72hours to be indoctrinated...be careful walking into any old church, especially if you're a new Christian. I've been to churches where as they're tactics are to undermine you're faith inoder to keep you in the pew, make you question your salvation ( tongues). I went in thinking, oh church is just church...not so. Be a berean test everybody and every word against scripture. Scripture is the final authority.
That is why one should not trust in man as the Bible states. Plus there is no need to be searching for a congregation. Concentrate on scriptures not on the man made doctrine of Churchianity.
Perhaps maybe a new approach or rather a more biblical approach is needed. Instead of looking for a place already established with iffy doctrines why not find believers that you know and gather in each other's homes? Or why not establish one where you invite those who are really interested in sharing the scriptures? There is no place in the scriptures where it says that one must be a part of a pre-established gathering. In fact we are not supposed to be in favor of denominationalism if you believe 1 Cor 1:10-13. I think this manner of approach is not only safer but more biblical.
Thank you for this I left my church because of the heretical pastors they endorse The are. Very service level with the sermons and last about 40 minutes of “preaching”
Sounds like you got caught up in protestantism. You would not have gotten this experience in the Catholic Church because it has preserved its doctrine, practise, faith and morals for 2000 years now
@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen LOL the same church that had holy wars, burned people at the stake, who sold indulgences, who provoke idolatry, Mary worship, infant baptism, works for salvation. This is a place you need to run away from not go to. ua-cam.com/video/pk2C0xUTqrM/v-deo.html
Hey man, right on. Most important thing when choosing a church, how much is the lecturer worth. That’s why MacArthurs church is the one for me. JMac is one of richest preachers in America. No brainer.
Please pray Re: not being able to connect with the local body of Christ. Hometown church attendees dont evangelize the community. So after i came out of false doctrine; one cannot tell that there is a union with Christ when speaking to church individual. Now seems like an artificial service, on the surface kinda fellowship. Once populated by numbers now decreasing in numbers. Various afflicted ones coming in not being healed in their minds. I did not witness these ones growing in the truth of God's Word. One church woman was so happy to hear me speak about scripture, she reached to hug me and a demonic spirit jumped on me, leaving me feeling like a movement of imbalanced vertigo suddenly swung upon me. 😢 So i prayed for her amd myself. The next evening i was re-attacked by a disturbing power that left me feeling like i was thrown off a building while in my sleep. Please do not leave judgemental responses? My hometown needs prayer. Im glad the Lord did not let me die from the attacks. I hope to find a better church to grow in the Lord.
Unfortunately, it is true that “Hometown church attendees don’t evangelize the community.” I would probably say this is a widespread problem in my opinion. I have attended many churches and can say with some assurance of this. It would appear that most churches are not in the business of preaching that they (the attendees) ought to go out and preach. Instead it is my assessment that they mainly care about maintaining or gathering more people into their church instead of just focusing on the gospel. In many cases I have noticed that most attendees don’t know their Bibles and just go to their churches to get some relevance of scripture, if they get anything at all. Because I’ve been to places where there was virtually no scripture being preached. Just opinions, talk about the world, excessive time of singing, etc. I cannot even remember when was the last time I heard any particular church service read an entire letter or epistle. So it comes to no surprise to me when you said “One church woman was so happy to hear me speak about scripture she reached to hug me…” Instead of finding a better church invite those who are thirsty for the word of God to your home or any place that would accommodate a few people. I know of people who evangelize like no one’s business and they meet up at their homes. I have seen that they do more than what most churches do. There is no reason that you have to meet up or partake in an established church that normally adhere to their denominational beliefs, which is another issue.
@GodsWordisTruth-zg1jj thanks for sharing this! Your response is appreciated. And i will prayerfully hope to meet at a place that will accommodate those who are thirsty for the Word!
But finding one that actually engages and wants new members and actually returns contacts. Having "contact us" on your website or contact cards at service only help if you actually CALL the peopl back. Not hating against my brethren, i just don't understand. And im tired of reaching out and my hand being ignored by my "fellow believers". Makes one question if i am even part of the church then. 🤷🏽♂️
Perhaps maybe a new approach or rather a more biblical approach is needed. Instead of looking for a place already established with iffy doctrines why not find those who gather in each other's homes? Or why not establish one where you invite those who are really interested in sharing the scriptures? There is no place in the scriptures where it says that one must be a part of a pre-established gathering. In fact we are not supposed to be in favor of denominationalism if you believe 1 Cor 1:10-13. I think this manner of approach might suit you well.
@@ScribeAlicious But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Came out of the Charismatic movement. Went to a Lutheran church. Missed hesrt felt fellowship. Thus, found an AG Church. I am not an cesssationist, but am cautious, and have to ignore well meaniful folks exercising gifts.. I do this because the pastor rightly divides the Word. Strong hermuenuticst. PS. Your guest mention leave a church with woment teaching.. He need to follow some Archaeological recent finds.. Megiddo church mosiac from 230AD. 4 women listed as leaders.. and read the cultural reasons Paul forbid in the book of Timothy.. the women prophetist of ephesus were most likely speaking out of turn and trying to take over the service.. TheBiblenalso list Decons as Women.. Philips daughters, Prophecies (preached)... I too, being once lutheran stood against women teaching.. total poor hermeneutic..
As for me, I don't care what they support; just keep it away from the pulpit. I'm not in church to learn politics or to know who to vote for, but I prefer Christians who don't participate in politics like me.
@@FruitFlower604I think getting involved is worthwhile but ( apart from a note on who reflects Christian values) there's no need for it to be a topic at the pulpit.
I love these topics about the local church. Please provide more topics on the local church. 🙌🏼
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I been at a church for the last 3 years.....God has blessed me significantly to pursue him and the word. Iam a non-denominational guy but the church is Pentecostal. I absolutely believe in the gifts and movement of the Holy Spirit but Gods word isnt telling me to be a denomination. That being said the last 6 months the pastor has been pushing the we Pentecostal and us Pentecostal more and more and iam kind of checking out. I've been praying and asking God to help me with the sermon and wisdom because I don't want to be too critical but there's some things I've seen and heard that don't line up with scripture and I'm definitely believing that the season is changing for me. Godly advice and wisdom would be greatly appreciated from anyone in this position and has been through it, thank you and God Bless
Perhaps the Lord is helping you understand that he is not exactly in favor of denominationalism. The fact that it exists shows to all the world that believers cannot be in agreement on certain issues or doctrines. All one needs to do is read 1 Corinthians 1:10-13. We are all supposed to be in the same mind and judgment, not embrace the differences like some ecumenical hippie gathering. We are not to give ourselves names like Paul said I am of Cephas or I am of Apollos etc. So the names are now I am Pentecostal or I am Baptist, etc. Where is that in the Bible? Unfortunately man has added to things that are not proven through scripture. Yet they are viewed as normal simply because too many people have accepted it. So here is where you find out where you really stand. With the Bible or with man made churchianity.
@robertmiller812 Amen thank you for reaching out!
@@jimproxy3459I grew up Pentecostal and it was all the Christianity I ever knew until a few years ago. There are currently many issues with Pentecostal denominations, and I say this as someone who loves my Pentecostal brothers and sisters. Some classical Pentecostals are also calling out the apostasy within their denomination and I appreciate that. The difficult part is that Pentecostals make you think they're so spiritual and you let your guard down and then trust them. That's when the devil subtly introduces false theology twisting the Bible and it's easy to believe when you trust them unless the Lord illuminates your heart and mind to see this. Then, it's up to you to trust Him and leave a typical Pentecostal church and search for a biblically sound church.
Leaving Pentecostal theology (with all its bells and whistles) for a biblically faithful church is one of the best things for my spiritual growth and sanctification that God has done for me. If we would just trust Him and take Him at His Word, we would truly see His hand at work in our lives instead of pretending we're so spiritual by claiming to have all these supernatural experiences which don't help us deny ourselves, pick up our cross, and follow Him.
I highly recommend prayerfully looking for a new church. Please feel free to ask any questions.
I recommend using church directories from G3, Founders', The Masters Seminary, The Gospel Coalition
I think it is true that God is trying to reach out to you to not be involved in denominationalism, which makes sense to me if one reads 1st Corinthians ch1 therefore it doesn’t make sense to again find another church as the last commenter is asserting. More so when there is an admission that Pentacostalism is flawed. The church directories mentioned include Pentecostal churches so if I am looking for a church and the church near me is affiliated with Pentacostalism then what does one do? Especially if one is not aware of what exactly they are doing that is not in agreement with the Bible or any church for that matter? The main point isn’t to come out of the frying pan and get back on it with some other church but to follow God’s words not the many clubs man has created.
Checking if the church has a "high view of scripture": in my experience this is much harder to determine than it appears on the surface. I've been in multiple churches that claim to love God's word and obey it. Months later it becomes apparent that they do not. Some good ways to check this early on would be helpful.
Love this! Thank you, men. God bless!
For me attending, growing and serving within your LOCAL church, within specific boundaries of creed and practice, is an important value both from a practical standpoint but also you serve best and can invite and disciple others in your own geographical area. A LOCAL church will also hopefully represent the needs of the community around you best who can again allows you to attend and serve there well. 11:32
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Thank you! This was needed. AC
Lol
1. The right preaching (Bible-based; "high view of Scripture"); 2. the right practice (of church ordinances/baptism and "the Lord's Table"); 3. the right practice of church discipline... Based on this, it is EXTREMELY difficult (or impossible) to find a "good" local church.
Who decides what is "right"? You?
@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen I was outlining the content of the video... the Bible "decides" what is "right". grace and peace
@suzanholland Yeh I notice you put "decides" in inverted commas...that is because the bible doesn't decide anything does it? People do. Am I "right"?
I was using your "decides" as a quote, but certainly people wrongly interpret/exegete, etc. all the time; that is why it states "the right preaching" (ie. sound doctrine)
@suzanholland Yes and so we loop right back to the beginning .. who decides what is right preaching, practise and discipline... it is you, isn't it?
Thank you for doing this video. I would love more content on this subject. We are in an area that doesn’t have a church that practices all three of the basic foundations. The practice of church discipline is the one that you just can’t find in my area. My husband and I have been praying about moving out of state so that we can be part of a true church. We need the Lord’s wisdom and guidance.
Catholic Church
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@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen the same church that had holy wars, burned people at the stake, who sold indulgences, who provoke idolatry, Mary worship, infant baptism, works for salvation. This is a place you need to run away from not go to.
ua-cam.com/video/pk2C0xUTqrM/v-deo.html
I love my church but they are CONSTANTLY asking for money: double offerings, fund raising events, now in January a challenge to tithe and if you’re not happy with the results a “money back guarantee.” We have been here for almost a decade and I love serving, love my church family and love the pastor. It’s a multi campus Presbyterian church and I believe it’s the lead pastor making these decisions. I just don’t know how much longer we can take being continually pressured to give so much. We love being generous but when your church brings in over 1.5 million dollars a year and it’s STILL not enough, I just don’t know where we go from here. We stay because we do believe it checks off those top three items and we know there’s no such thing as a perfect church. It’s just not always easy.
So why are you sticking around? You should have left that church a looooong time ago. Is it because you think you ought to tithe or something. I'm trying to figure out what are your reasons for giving to such a church.
I suggest you ask yourself and also take it to the Lord in prayer: "Why do I love this church? Is it because of the people, the music, the personalities (staff), the activities, OR is it because we (both the people and leaders) are being faithful to God's Word?"
Remember the words of the Lord when He said "whoever loves father and mother more than me is not worthy of me."
I say this as someone who understands how extremely difficult it is to leave a church and friends and family behind as you seek to honor the Lord by finding a faithful church. I've been through this. It was a long process (about 2 years), but I can now say it was so worth it to trust the Lord. It may cost you most of your relationships, but it's so worth it to trust the Lord.
Please take it to the Lord in prayer and don't be afraid to take a leap of faith as long you're seeking to obey His good will.
Sounds like they have a problem with money and have become desperate so much so that they are imposing the misconstrued idea of tithing. Tithing had to do with food not money. It was part of the old Testament not the New Testament.
Run! Prosperity gospel...
Josh, you did not mention anything about qualified elders, qualified deacons, shepherding elders, church structure..
Sometimes the best thing to do is not to look for one as it really isn't a scriptural doctrine. If you want to share the gospel with your fellow brethren do what everyone did in the Bible go to each others homes and have a good and intimate Bible study and invite several people. Safer, easier and practical.
Thank for making this video on a important issue. My question what about if you are in a church that calms to be reform but preaches a legalistic and works base sermons and never gets to the gospel in any meaningful way?
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I go to a very good biblical church, one where the pastor went to John Mc Arthur seminary and I happen to live in a small town in Washington state !it checks off these rules…I happen to believe in a post tribulation rapture which most don’t believe in and my church doesn’t either but I will not let it divide me and my fellow believers
I only wish that things that are up for interpretation would be preached as such but instead most preaching is done like this is 100% the way it is. Makes more sense to me to say “ we believe this is what the Bible is saying but God knows for sure and we will be open “
I’m 90% sure in post trib but I’m not perfect so we should be open to a different interpretation when the Bible isn’t crystal clear in some areas
The only real biblical church is the Catholic Church. That is the church that gave us the Canon of Scripture and preseeved it faithfully for 1,500 years by hand until the printing press was invented.
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@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen the same church that had holy wars, burned people at the stake, who sold indulgences, who provoke idolatry, Mary worship, infant baptism, works for salvation. This is a place you need to run away from not go to.
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What about a church that rarely has the Lord's Supper (maybe 4 times a year)?
You choose the Church that is true regardless of any factors that might be convenient to you personally.
Or just follow the scriptures without having to add in the man made concept of churchianity.
One thing I would personally advise anyone that's looking for a Church, walk straight in and ask them for a statement of faith in detail...believe it or not there are churches out there that disguise who they are and what they're about. Imagine setting in a church for months and then one day Oneness theology creeps off the pulpit. That happened to me as a new Christian. They say it can take as little as 72hours to be indoctrinated...be careful walking into any old church, especially if you're a new Christian. I've been to churches where as they're tactics are to undermine you're faith inoder to keep you in the pew, make you question your salvation ( tongues). I went in thinking, oh church is just church...not so. Be a berean test everybody and every word against scripture. Scripture is the final authority.
That is why one should not trust in man as the Bible states. Plus there is no need to be searching for a congregation. Concentrate on scriptures not on the man made doctrine of Churchianity.
ua-cam.com/video/zLaKvhsOhnk/v-deo.html
Perhaps maybe a new approach or rather a more biblical approach is needed. Instead of looking for a place already established with iffy doctrines why not find believers that you know and gather in each other's homes? Or why not establish one where you invite those who are really interested in sharing the scriptures? There is no place in the scriptures where it says that one must be a part of a pre-established gathering. In fact we are not supposed to be in favor of denominationalism if you believe 1 Cor 1:10-13. I think this manner of approach is not only safer but more biblical.
In Jamaica, it’s more rare to find a male pastor or even church goer. There are many female pastors there out of necessity.
Thank you for this I left my church because of the heretical pastors they endorse
The are. Very service level with the sermons and last about 40 minutes of “preaching”
Sounds like you got caught up in protestantism. You would not have gotten this experience in the Catholic Church because it has preserved its doctrine, practise, faith and morals for 2000 years now
@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen LOL the same church that had holy wars, burned people at the stake, who sold indulgences, who provoke idolatry, Mary worship, infant baptism, works for salvation. This is a place you need to run away from not go to.
ua-cam.com/video/pk2C0xUTqrM/v-deo.html
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Can you choose a church without submitting to it?
Well you can go to one if you want but there is no need to submit to it. Churchianity is not exactly a Christian doctrine.
Hey man, right on. Most important thing when choosing a church, how much is the lecturer worth. That’s why MacArthurs church is the one for me. JMac is one of richest preachers in America. No brainer.
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Please pray Re: not being able to connect with the local body of Christ. Hometown church attendees dont evangelize the community. So after i came out of false doctrine; one cannot tell that there is a union with Christ when speaking to church individual. Now seems like an artificial service, on the surface kinda fellowship. Once populated by numbers now decreasing in numbers. Various afflicted ones coming in not being healed in their minds. I did not witness these ones growing in the truth of God's Word. One church woman was so happy to hear me speak about scripture, she reached to hug me and a demonic spirit jumped on me, leaving me feeling like a movement of imbalanced vertigo suddenly swung upon me. 😢 So i prayed for her amd myself. The next evening i was re-attacked by a disturbing power that left me feeling like i was thrown off a building while in my sleep. Please do not leave judgemental responses? My hometown needs prayer. Im glad the Lord did not let me die from the attacks. I hope to find a better church to grow in the Lord.
Unfortunately, it is true that “Hometown church attendees don’t evangelize the community.” I would probably say this is a widespread problem in my opinion. I have attended many churches and can say with some assurance of this. It would appear that most churches are not in the business of preaching that they (the attendees) ought to go out and preach. Instead it is my assessment that they mainly care about maintaining or gathering more people into their church instead of just focusing on the gospel. In many cases I have noticed that most attendees don’t know their Bibles and just go to their churches to get some relevance of scripture, if they get anything at all. Because I’ve been to places where there was virtually no scripture being preached. Just opinions, talk about the world, excessive time of singing, etc. I cannot even remember when was the last time I heard any particular church service read an entire letter or epistle. So it comes to no surprise to me when you said “One church woman was so happy to hear me speak about scripture she reached to hug me…”
Instead of finding a better church invite those who are thirsty for the word of God to your home or any place that would accommodate a few people. I know of people who evangelize like no one’s business and they meet up at their homes. I have seen that they do more than what most churches do. There is no reason that you have to meet up or partake in an established church that normally adhere to their denominational beliefs, which is another issue.
@GodsWordisTruth-zg1jj thanks for sharing this! Your response is appreciated. And i will prayerfully hope to meet at a place that will accommodate those who are thirsty for the Word!
But finding one that actually engages and wants new members and actually returns contacts. Having "contact us" on your website or contact cards at service only help if you actually CALL the peopl back. Not hating against my brethren, i just don't understand. And im tired of reaching out and my hand being ignored by my "fellow believers". Makes one question if i am even part of the church then. 🤷🏽♂️
Perhaps maybe a new approach or rather a more biblical approach is needed. Instead of looking for a place already established with iffy doctrines why not find those who gather in each other's homes? Or why not establish one where you invite those who are really interested in sharing the scriptures? There is no place in the scriptures where it says that one must be a part of a pre-established gathering. In fact we are not supposed to be in favor of denominationalism if you believe 1 Cor 1:10-13. I think this manner of approach might suit you well.
Matthew 11:28 NASB1995
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.
Right. To Jesus definitely. To a church no.
@@robertmiller812you fool
@@ScribeAlicious But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Came out of the Charismatic movement. Went to a Lutheran church. Missed hesrt felt fellowship. Thus, found an AG Church. I am not an cesssationist, but am cautious, and have to ignore well meaniful folks exercising gifts.. I do this because the pastor rightly divides the Word. Strong hermuenuticst.
PS. Your guest mention leave a church with woment teaching.. He need to follow some Archaeological recent finds.. Megiddo church mosiac from 230AD. 4 women listed as leaders.. and read the cultural reasons Paul forbid in the book of Timothy.. the women prophetist of ephesus were most likely speaking out of turn and trying to take over the service.. TheBiblenalso list Decons as Women.. Philips daughters, Prophecies (preached)... I too, being once lutheran stood against women teaching.. total poor hermeneutic..
I need a church that doesn’t support Trump.
As in from the pulpit or the members?
As for me, I don't care what they support; just keep it away from the pulpit. I'm not in church to learn politics or to know who to vote for, but I prefer Christians who don't participate in politics like me.
@@FruitFlower604I think getting involved is worthwhile but ( apart from a note on who reflects Christian values) there's no need for it to be a topic at the pulpit.
What about one that doesn’t kiss up to the ✡
@@MrsKeane25From the church leaders, whether from the pulpit or in bible study groups and such