BPD & PTSD Psychiatric Interview | Jake & Dr. Lois Choi-Kain
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- A first meeting/consultation interview between Jake -- diagnosed with BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder) and likely co-occurring PTSD -- and Dr. Choi-Kain, who is an expert clinician and director of the Gunderson Personality Disorders Institute at McLean Hospital.
The post-meeting debrief with Dr. Choi-Kain is here: • BPD & PTSD | Debrief w...
The post--meeting debrief with Jake is here: • Debrief w/ Jake after ...
This is not an acted scene. Please be advised: subjects include childhood/relationship trauma and neglect (PTSD), paranoia/fear/panic, relationship issues, substance use and other difficult subject matter.
This video is part of a series of sessions with therapists who work with Borderline Personality Disorder. Playlist of all videos to date is here: • Sessions
Dr. Choi-Kain's short bio (lifted from the McLean Hospital site):
"Lois W. Choi-Kain, MEd, MD, is the director of the Gunderson Personality Disorders Institute. The institute provides training and supervision for numerous proven treatments, including mentalization-based treatment (MBT), dialectical behavioral therapy for post-traumatic stress disorder (DBT-PTSD), transference focused psychotherapy (TFP), and general psychiatric management (GPM). She works nationally and internationally to expand teaching efforts on borderline personality disorder and its evidence-based treatments and engages in research to study resources for training clinicians who need direction and patients who need access to informed care. With her mentor, John Gunderson, Dr. Choi-Kain developed a training program for GPM and has been expanding its applications.
In 2009, Dr. Choi-Kain developed the Gunderson Residence, a specialized residential program for adult women with severe personality disorders. In 2013, she founded the BPD Training Institute, a major center for proliferating awareness of and evidence-based care for severe personality disorders. Dr. Choi-Kain has also developed training clinics in McLean’s Adult Outpatient Services for treatment approaches such as MBT and DBT-PTSD."
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I am eternally grateful for this. I've never felt understood ever and these comments make me feel seen. Thank you to Rebbie, Lois, and everyone involved. This channel has been a safe place for people like me and I am excited to see how further the channel grows.
Wishing you so much healing along your path of greater self-compassion and self-understanding.
Thank you very much for sharing experience ❤ wishing you all the best
Sending you all our love Jacob, I hope that you continue to feel seen, understood, held, and so deeply validated. Your wonderful and you have a truly caring and beautiful heart, I know it’s so hard for you to share it, but please don’t hide it, it’s a wonderful gift that has so much to offer. You exude kindness, I hope that as the days and years go by you continue to see how wonderful you are and learn how to receive joy, peace, and gladness. Your so worthy of love and I hope you are abundantly showered with hope, purpose, connection, and happiness.
Keep walking forward and know you are lovingly held and understood
X x x x x x x x x
Thank you for sharing your story❤🩹wishing you happiness
Yes Jacob, we all love you and appreciate you sharing your story! I watched this video with a friend and kept nodding along with him saying “oh my gosh, yup, I do that that too” LOL
I’m a man and I have BPD. This guy is speaking my language. There is a unique pain to being emasculated, used, objectified, and abused by your mother as a son. I was diagnosed very late. I can’t count how many doctors and therapists I have been in front of that absolutely dropped the ball.
"I'm very self-aware, which is awful." I laughed out loud because I've said this verbatim to my therapist!! Jacob, clearly several of us in the comments relate to you and aspects of how you've felt and experienced life. I share your sense of humor, too. Extending so much compassion and love to you, and I wish you nothing but joys, healing, ease and wellness in your life. 💜💜💜
I've known Jake for years. Since he was still in school and he's dealt with a lot in life. To see him still here and thriving is amazing.
Hi Corey! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@JacobLasher Hello 👋 ☺️
When he said "I'm just trying to go to work and not have a panic attack " man biggest mood.
I really appreciated his vulnerability. I also think BPD in men is underrepresented, so I think he's going to help a lot of people! Amazing interview. 👏
Agreed.
Love Dr Lois Choi-kain. I can tell she is one highly skilled therapist. ❤
She really is. I don’t have BPD, but I watch this series to try to understand how to communicate in a way that is more inclusive for people who do.
Her gentle, supportive honesty is such a helpful model.
I don't normally comment on here, but yours made me smile. What a kind person you are for even thinking of doing that. I am a 24 year old (he/him) from TN diagnosed with BPD. People like you make me hopeful. Thank you.@@estellesstories7467
Thank you so much Jake for being vulnerable and open about your story. I know it's not easy. You greatly helped me today and I feel I could be a carbon copy of you.
Love this. Thanks for the supportive comment. -P
He’s my absolute favorite client interview SO FAR!!! 100% relate to how he navigates relationship to self and others and I get his self deprecating humor….he’s awesome ❤
I wish someone with her education and experience with bpd would walk with me through these questions so I can better understand myself. I resonate with him and his feelings day to day to a degree.
Read the classic book. “I hate you don’t leave me “. It’s a top book for BPD and people who love and deal with those with BPD or even emotional dysregulation which some people have that exhibits a lot like like BPD
Also
Marsha linehans books are good ( she’s the therapist that developed DBT for BPD and emotional dysregulation, and over the last years as it turns out suffers with BPD features herself )
Also good videos like this always help-full
Important thing with BPD, and emotional dysregulation is those with it have a harder time reviewing, and learning lessons from what has happened before and how to approach things differently.
There’s a Blindspot here for those people, but there is hope as long as
When is willing to keep track of what happened before and what you are going to try next
You found this video
So keep going
Good Luck
I also wish everyone had access to this level of care.. sadly the world isn't there yet; that's one of the main reasons we are making these vids. Thank you so much for being here, and for commenting. -P
Check out the j. Young schema questionnaire and find out which schemas you have, it's incredibly helpful to point you in the direction of what to work on (hopefully with support!) until you can get assessed. Everyone has some, even people with no DSM dx possible, it's a list of ideas about ourselves and the world that are unhelpful to us. There are some that almost 100% of people with some dx have, but plenty typical people have those same ones. I think "I am defective" schema is really common in low self esteem but then like 100% for BPD. But you probably know already if you have that one, some of the ones on the list blew my mind.. because it was almost like "duh... But that's just how it is!? Isn't it!?" And seeing them on the list and realizing *that's not just how it is* was huge
I can so fully understand and identify with everything he's saying
My heart breaks for Jacob as I watch this video. I’m a somewhat recovered BPD in my 60s, but I have experienced so much self-loathing in my life. I hated myself for years and could never figure out why I kept screwing up despite having the ability to be successful. I worry that this young man is in danger, and I hope he can get help. ❤
Thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️ I’m doing my best. Your kind words mean a lot. I hope you’re doing well oxoxo
@@JacobLasher You’re very welcome, Jacob. I wish you all the best, and please know that recovery is possible. Take care of yourself. ❤️🩹
@@JacobLasher Hi, Jacob! I think you can make it and build a better life for you!
@@JacobLasher you’re a good man. Time to hand back the pain that was never yours, to begin with, and be the wonderful person you are. The humility it took to share as you have shows me how very brave you are and knowing this will help countless others shows you are able to face the darkness and help others be courageous too.
I don’t expect anything from you in return other than, I hope you will imagine that I have children your age and always want them to feel safe and loved. I wasn’t a perfect Mum, but I was good enough. I’m still healing from the wounds of my Mum and abusive relationships but I truely hope from the depths of my soul my children don’t suffer too much. I still have therapy too. As we grow and follow our purposes a light shines for others to see too. May your strength in breaking generational patterns help shift other areas in your life, for the better too. God bless you brave heart.
As someone diagnosed with cptsd and bpd he should definitely be screened for the former option
a bad situation happened to me, and it took me a year to get over that. This short period i finally understood a dear friend that lives in this drama everyday as BPD. i finally understood what means to live in a constant cronic ptsd. i think. During that period i was constantly anxious for everything, being insicure, taking things personally, feeling ashame even for not washing dishes or being too fat. It's like everything was a reflection of myself, everything was defining me. It took me a while to separate from the world outside me, separate emotions from actions, and finally see dishes as just dirty dishes, not me being slappy, or a friend just being annoyed on me, not me being unbareble. Not funny at all. It's overwhelming and you don't feel in control.
These videos break my heart at the abuse and pain these people went through as children, and the struggle they go though in life, I have C.P.T.S.D and I'm finally at the happiest point in my life at 63. I can understand when Jake says, "he wasn't present", I think that's how we're able to get through life. There are so many predators out there who can just look at us and know we're vulnerable than they do more damage.
A take home point aboit BPD in this case is the instability of relationships w others and themselves ( job, identity ) Bec they are constantly trying to fill a hole to make up for a feeling of emptiness and anxiety and a willingness to give up or even ruin good things for the next excitement or epiphany that will fill that hole …. It’s important in that if you notice you will do this amd then regret what you lose or turn away from or ruin you have had made an important step into insight that THIS KEEPS HAPPENING ! Once you see it and you decide you want some ting that lasts for yourself you are ready to start
Yes, awareness is always the first step. It's hard to see the pattern without having lived a bit of life, so sometimes the realization comes late, and then it can be hard to have a positive attitude going forward. Stay strong through it! Wishing lots of positive change to people. And thanks for the comment-- -P
I'm so happy to call you a friend, Jacob. And I'm so proud of you. Vulnerability is the most beautiful thing and your ability to speak so eloquently and honestly about your experiences inspires me on a deep deep level. I love theeee!
What a kind and genuine chap! This channel is doing so much to show the world the human side of BPD. Especially useful for us who want to understand it better. Thank you!!
I am so glad to see Dr. Lois again, thanks for this video and Jake for your vulnerability, I suspect it will help a lot of people.
Jacob's ability to express his trauma is amazing. It made me feel his pain. I really hope he gets the help he needs x 😢❤
this is the best interview on BPD ive seen on the internet do far. i feel seen
Thank you for writing this; makes us feel great. -P
WOW, kudos to Jake for stepping up to help spread the light for others to find.
What a great guy!
Jacob have you been assessed for ptsd or cptsd? The vigilance, the fearful expectations sound so hard. Then seeing yourself as bad, unworthy. Thinking to self punish preemptively. This is so relatable.
Yes I have been told I have CPTSD. Thank you so much. I am grateful for your kind words
@@JacobLasher I wish you well in life, love, and healing. Stay cool. Pretty certain I have CPTSD too. I like this saying by Jerry Wise, for when I get nervous, "Calmness is everything" .
@@JacobLasher thank you for your candid interview. I have a similar background and similar struggles. I hear you. I hear me in you. I'm glad your healing. Keep up the good fight. You deserve to love yourself, your whole beautiful self.
Thank you so much, the struggles with the social paranoia for lack of a better word...work persona...what drinking did for you...intuition..thanks, made me feel better to hear it. It's why I love this channel stuff like that
I can relate far more with this client, thank you for sharing. ❤
It's just so... expressive do see someone very similar to me, talking about a pain very similar too, and with a open heart. Thank you so much for this interview.
I find this very moving.
I see aspects of myself in Jake.
Best wishes to you Sir.
This interview was so helpful I have seen other ones with Charlie and Regina which were great but the customer service thing really helped me as I never could have any career but I was so drawn to customer service it was the one thing I was so good at. I would make it my mission to please the customer and give them everything they could possibly need it was the only place that I had any self esteem. I wish my current psychologist would ask me these questions 🙄
I wish I could give Jacob a hug.
Thank you Jake for sharing your story! And thank you Borderliner Notes for your great content!!
Thanks for being here!
Thank you for watching!!!
Jake !you are amazing....keep the power! x
Amen. -P
Wow!!! Thank you so much!!!
@@BorderlinerNotes ❤
@@JacobLasher IF YOU SHARE YOUR NIGHTMARES ....THEY LOOSE POWER OVER YOU X your a star in my eyes...love is all
thanks to Jake, Dr. and BN for making this possible!
Jacob, you are such a wonderful person. It breaks my heart you never take credit for what you have achieved and how good-hearted you are. I wish you a very happy and fulfilling life because you completely deserve this!
Everyone who agreed to do these is extremely courageous for sharing and being vulnerable. Especially with BPD, I can imagine how difficult this must be.
This person was groomed by the older partner when he was very young. I'm so so sorry that happened to him because no one deserves that.
It’s true I was groomed by my ex and didn’t realize it until a couple years ago. It’s wild how time goes by and you learn. Thanks for this comment. Sending love your way oxox
Jake comes across as a loving, bright. self-aware person who had an extremely difficult start to life, and who through no fault of his own has developed emotional burns that make it hard to trust.
Jake - my hope for you is that you can see yourself for the fullness of who you are, good parts and all- and feel safe in your world. You are immediately likeable. You are smart. You are perceive and so witty. I imagine knowing you would be quite lovely.
May you know yourself. May you know you’re good. May you trust yourself to learn how to feel safe around people who have a pattern of being trustworthy. And may you find deep, lasting satisfaction in every area of your life.
You have everything it takes. For what it’s worth, this stranger on the internet is cheering for you to succeed.
All the best. Now is YOUR time.
*perceptive, not perceive
And Jake - if you’re reading this - keep at your writing!
It sounds like a passion for you, a real creative outlet.
I imagine you have a way with telling stories that is exactly what many people need.
I love their chemistry 💗💗💗 kudos to the doc and Jake.
I also love the way your channel not only shares experiences of people w borderline but showcases top notch clinicians. We get to see how they think and respond to the person in front of them.
Thank you. It is so so so so important to have this trauma informed insight to men and BPD. ( women too. Of course ). But there is no gender divide to trauma.
This is so interesting thank you Jacob for being brave enough to share, its never easy to feel vulnerable. I am so glad that you have found someone that is good for you, I wish you joy, love and happiness. Much love from Australia
thank you Jake for being vulnerable and telling your story. I've only just been diagnosed with BPD. I share a general set of experiences with you and it helps me to see the BPD. since diagnosis I've struggled more than before diagnosis, lots of confusion and grief. I believe and hope that there is a way through for me but it's a matter of finding my way through my own 'version' of BPD. I only wish that it was easier to find the right type of therapy in some sort of timely fashion (structured therapy wait times are over 12 months! Good luck in your own journey Jake!
This is a message for Dr. Choi-Kain, this is a key insight. As ironic as this might sound, given one of the criteria for BPD is "Idealization devaluation"., ALL triggers can be linked to devaluation of someone with BPD. invalidation, rejection, denegrate, diminuate, lie, blame, undermining etc, are just different forms and expressions for the same thing, devaluation. I am telling Dr. Choi-Kain this, because unlike other psychologists and psychiatrists, she has been very understanding in relation to people with BPD, and therefore is deserving of this key insight. TRY IT! see with your patients, if all their triggers dont boil down to somehow they felt devalued. It makes sense, since they are already devaluing people...I have BPD just in case anyone wants to say I'm criticizing(devaluing) people with BPD. I'm not criticizing people with BPD, god knows they get enuff criticism. when I say they already devalue people, I'm stating a fact..it's included in the criteria for BPD under idealization/devaluation. Notice, Marsha Linehan had to use "radical acceptance" to avoid devaluing her patients. That is the proof of wht I'm saying. She knew instinctively, because she has BPD. "Know thine enemy and you will be victorious in battle" - Sun Tsu, The Art of War
I wonder if Jacob was pushing people away not to protect them, but because he didn't think they could truly be there for him in the long run -- that they were not capable of holding the problems he was bringing to the table.
We love you, Jake. Keep your head up. So far, you and Charlotte are my favs. I can relate so much to the paranoia of someone coming to get me. Thank you so much for sharing your story, this channel is helping me so much. I'm even looking for a TFP therapist.
Also, I don't know who it is, but whoever created this channel I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Thanks for your positivity and for your comments -- it means a lot to hear the channel is helping you! -P
Thank you Jake & Dr. Lois
I don't have any disorders and have never been to a therapist. But I can relate to some things Jacob says on a smaller level. I just want to say he's a very likable person. I don't like compliments either, but I'm hoping if he reads this he can accept it. 😂
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I was so excited to see the video up. I feel I get a lot out of watching these. Thanks to all involved. You’re doing good things here!
What an amazing exchange. They are both brilliant. I really admire his capacity for vulnerability and she is so respectful. Excellent.
I relate so much to you Jacob - my childhood was also very chaotic every day and I would escape for weeks to other peoples houses and my parents also never noticed or wondered where I was or tried to find me. I also make those sarcastic positive statements on my life to like minimize my problems for others to they don’t worry about me or I become a burden to them even professionals. Thank you a lot for making this video it helps me not feel so alone
So much in what Jake said resonates with me. I learned so much about myself from this interview.
That makes me so happy. Thanks for sharing! -P
You have no idea how much that means to me. I'm grateful
Thank you so much for sharing so, honestly. You're helping so many people. I am so grateful, and I completely understand you. This is so relatable. Thank you 🙏🙏
Thanks for watching, and for the supportive response. -P
Thank you for watching. I'm grateful
it`s so true... Thank you guys, thank u Jakob
And thank you for being here with us. -P
Thank YOU!!!!
wonderful work
Great interview
wow. Jacob, you are so likeable and relatable. thanks so much 💟 THIS IS SO GOOD
Thank you! I’m terrible at opening up. It felt like someone was talking to the therapist for me. This is why I dnt get any where with anyone. Then again no one has been as thoughtful at sitting back, listening and asking the rt questions. Thank you again for this, both of you. I’m sharing this with my bf and telling him tht this rt here is what goes on in my head
Wow. what a great video.
Fascinating interview. Any possibility of a follow up on anything and everything in the interview but also possible transference and potential countertransference? Thank you for all the amazing content!
Thank you 🙏
Thanks Rebbie
and Pascal! - R
Rebbie gives off a cool vibe of a rock star, always! It’s pretty much what I wish I were like. 😊
I'll take that complement.... smile emoticon - R
People tell me I seem very calm sometimes too and I have no idea how I'm exuding any calm but that's sooo delightful to hear. I think part of what they pick up on is the non-judgment, the lack of surprise or judgment when someone says or does something unexpected. That's a type of calm too
This is very relatable.
Omg!! I used to do the same thing as a young teen and write my own “fake” diary. How I wanted my life to be. I had a different name, was pretty, had a family and friends in my diary… I did that more often than writing my own diary. That must be a borderline thing 😮
I really value and respect Dr. Choi and at the same time found myself unsettled at the lack of matching with Jake's endearing humor, and wondering if the seriousness is clinically intentional? It reads not as warm to me as other interviews, but maybe I'm misreading. I just want him to be met and held with attunement!
It seems to improve later to be fair, just hard to watch the first stretch like this!
It depends on what the person is laughing at. Often people laugh describing something awful, or attacking themselves, so the therapist stays with the bit in pain instead of the bit laughing
@@therabbithat Sure sure, I just found it a little stone faced during the first stretch where you'd be building trust and rapport through warmth :\
She looks angry .
wish I could have a wonderful therapist like Lois.
wow. what i wouldn’t give for a session with dr choi-kain.
Felt this... it really sux being raised by hurt people as parents and several cluster B family members. I aim to trust people, but ironically, my bad picker continually picks the wrong people to trust reinforcing our paranoia. It's It's amazing how this phenomenon can be so pervasive in one's life.
I just recently got diagnosed with bpd and have a child I'm so scared that she has it but she is only 2 I am trying to be a good parent but I feel I have to almost lock my self away is this normal
I have watched a few of this contents now(borderlinernotes-btw-SUPER INSIGHTFUL),after yesterdays life streem on psych2go with a BPD lady,and I can deffinetly confirm(after being told in the past by my psych she thaught I was BPD ) I now certainly dont feel like my tune inside is of what is being portrait here(by those few people whom bravely enough opened up to the extend they did)....deffo not BPD.Thanks for Your input,knowledge,and putting me straight.Keep up the good fight!
is there group therapy for CBPD in Boston
So much reflects my experience, so much... and I dare say the same for many more. Mind you I see BPD now as a predictable outcome to these types of experiences. I think the way out is emotional and not cognitive and incredibly difficult and sadly unlikely as a gay man.
I have the diagnosis. But how do I make it go away?
I am tired of fighting this battle everyday. So... what's the course of action to make it go away?
if you could get some black women on this channel it would be great! we get diagnosed and often misdiagnosed often so it would be amazing to see the black experience
Firstly, thank you for being here. We are SO with you on this and working on it. It is one of our top priorities. We fully understand that representation breeds connection with those who are and feel represented. Thank you for this comment - we value it and are in total agreement and are working on it.
@@BorderlinerNotes thanks!
I would love to share my story too
I understand that whole punishing yourself and the way that I've looked at it but I know it's not right no one else can punish me more than myself I know it hurts me and I know what punishment to give myself in generally my therapist says it's a bit much
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I got cptsd from being with a covert narc / bpd.
Soul destroying shit man... insidious.
This is so me
At 21mn thats what makes me workaholic and social butterfly but im introverted. I put on an armour most times but its sad when i don't get busy coz i feel like a p.o.s.
Do therapist ever get past having you tell your story and relive it over and over and over and over do they ever get to a point that it does something for the individual
I would have liked to hear why he thinks he has BPD. That is, what are the symptoms and behaviors that make him believe this
18:17 is so me
I don't see any BPD in this young man. I see CPTSD, something I struggle with. Just because his mother had BPD doesn't mean he has it.
Hey there! Jacob here. Let's try to remember mental illness looks different for everyone. I was very nervous when the cameras were turned on and I had never shared much of my truth to anyone before. I hit 9 out of the 9 traits when diagnosing BPD. Was a truly beautiful and scary moment when finally feeling validated after many years of doctors and myself trying to calculate my brain chemistry lol. For many years, I kept getting various diagnoses and continued to search for something else because nothing felt right. Finally, I accepted the idea of BPD because for so many years we suspected my mother to have it, and I didn't want to be associated with anything to do with her and the fear of "becoming like my parents" was terrifying. But I did research about BPD and never felt more seen. It was spot on and there we go. I def plan on talking more about it on my channel and hopefully even more on Borderline Notes! But truthfully, I was pretty nervous and didn't know what to expect when filming. :). Thanks for watching
@@JacobLasher Hey Jacob! I meant no offence. I suppose I was a bit too informed by my own agenda in watching your interview. I will say you have a lot of strength doing this kind of thing. I could never do it. Good for you! Nervous or not, you should know that you come off really well here. Best of luck!
@@Jantonov1 Thank you! And no offense taken! I appreciate your kind words, my friend.
Dude, black and white thinking: everyone has good intentions. It can b hard not to think that. It's such a nice thing to think, I'd rather if it was true
Gawd that’s some vocal fry.
How would you heal a disorder that is the definition of "normal" in narcissistic society?
I've liked many of your other videos on this channel. However, the way the therapist is interviewing the guy it seems like she is projecting her opinions or theories onto his life. She keeps asking him questions when he seems to want to move on. It doesn't sound like she is really hearing what he is saying, but already has her mind made up. I think the danger this causes with borderlines (myself included) is we struggle to believe our own truths anyway. I could just be triggered by her and maybe she was super enlightening for him. I don't know.
She certainly is steering the conversation, but isn't it part of a therapist's job, to offer counter narratives to the patient's self-talk and trying to come back to points the patient evades talking about?
Regarding the projection of her own opinions / asumptions: Can anyone not do this?
Really just "listening" would be mere voice recording - any attempt to "understand" involves building connections (relate) with the own imagination of the other person's mind.
Even if an assumption doesn't perfectly fit, e.g. if pushing away helpful people isn't (soley) based in a feeling of being unworthy, it's a starting point to ask if it might fit and "track" the reaction. Especially with a patient like Jake, who is actually showing a lot of self awareness (and can apparently assess if an explanation fits him or not), yet struggles to change maladaptive behavioural patterns.
Are there specific points in the interview where you had the impression that Dr. Choi-Kain is sticking to own assumptions about Jake despite him showing evidence that her assumptions would need to be revised?
I personally perceived her as compassionate towards Jake, and I think she did very well in addressing both his toxic relationship experiences and his way of "finding a way to end" what was apparently not a toxic but a quite supportive relationship.
I found this very helpful, seeing both Jake as a lovely and helpful person with very understandable struggles, while also addressing how he endured toxic relationships yet pushed away someone who was loving and kind to him. And trying to find an explanation for this behaviour in Jake's case.
(Helpful because it makes BPD very challenging to other people,
not knowing how to deal with a kind and loving person who seeks being close yet [suddenly] switch to rejective when encountering actual nearness).
I was diagnosed with BPD then a Psychiatrist thought no you have Bipolar 1. Lol! How about it's all bs? How about that? Sorry but as I age I'm gonna have to say no to all of these mental health diagnosis. How about I meet a lot of jerks and gas lighters and am over it? How about that? God forbid I want to stay in my house and do nothing and not have to work for anyone else and basically be an introvert. God forbid I want to be away from gas lighters, codependents, and people who's jokes are awful. lol! I don't want to get to know anyone I just want to not live in this crap world anymore. Think Theodore Finch...."Bone charred cookies" quote from All The Bright Places book and that is exactly how I feel but then I feel as if our brains aren't broken but Idk maybe they actually are from whatever we went through when we were younger. I'm tried of all these mental health diagnosis this guy seems nice don't want to say their is nothing wrong about him he clearly is a writer and artist who's had a bad life and that's it. Simple as that.
She weirded me out
She looks AI
She looks AI
@@neveragain733what?
Same old same old it's a cluster b personality disorder!!¡ It's not a mental illness best of luck to people who are most likely codependents in these relationships do you need the pain???
Toooo much fry …
The vocal fry is off the scale.
Shame vocal fry has made it into Psychiatry
With all respect I don’t understand what makes him have bpd. i think you don’t showcase what bpd is and that creates confusion like many of things discussed here are common in social anxiety and simply anyone who has had life difficulties and has little trust in people
Fair point. I think I was very very very nervous to being on camera. I hadn’t ever spoke to any doctor who knew about BPD to her level. And also sharing how I feel is very difficult. I am grateful you took the time to watch!!! I really want to start my channel up again to talk more about my personal struggles with BPD: the extreme abandonment fears, the “flatlining” as I would call it, the chronic emptiness and constant lack of identity and questioning myself, and more. BPD is definitely a multi layered personality disorder and hopefully this channel can continue to help more folks out! Sending love and light your way oxoxo
This isn't a video explaining what BPD is
@@TheLaureea The title of the video might have given you the wrong idea, but this video was prefect. "quiet" borderline is an online thing, no one agrees on what it means, is has never been studied, it is not a word from psychology or psychiatry
@@TheLaureea it sounds like you are looking for a dx on for you or someone you care about? it is impossible to figure this out without help. Even people with years of experience need hours and hours and tools they are especially trained in and they still get it wrong sometimes. Your suffering is still valid when you don't know the name of it. You will never find for sure what the name of it is by watching UA-cam videos or reading the DSM. Focus on what might help, that you can find out more easily
Many of his symptoms are typical of BPD. The highly critical introjects (self awareness, trying to prove he's not bad...) for instance. Also, bear in mind this is not a lecture, this is an interview, it's not a lesson in what BPD is or is not.
Noone's talking about his homosexuality. It is obvious here that his homosexuality is completely phycogenic based on his complex developmental trauma. It is a complex post traumatic stress response and not sexual orientation. While in homosexual relationship he unconsciously causes Reenactment of his complex developmental trauma!
Lol what.
Nah. Was born gay lol. Nothing to do with the trauma
@@JacobLasher Do you have any idea about the complex developmental trauma and the sexualized responses? Of course not, so think about it!
@@andreasretsinas2142 you liking your own posts is funny. I took a look at your profile. Pretty disturbing stuff. But yeah, I was definitely born gay before any real trauma happened. Also my sexuality isn’t the main subject matter in the video. No need to speculate why I’m gay. Irrelevant lol.
Even if these statements had truth to them, it would be totally beside the point and not relevant. I think you are speaking from some pretty old fashioned assumptions about sexual orientation. You may or may not be ready to challenge your own views on this , but if you think about it, it wouldn't matter either way. The homosexuality is not part of his difficulties, if you count out having to deal with unsolicited comments about his private life from other people. Luckily, there were almost none here:)