joking aside this is an incredible idea imo. like this seems like just about the least amount of construction that a park could do right now still end up with a ride that breaks the 500 foot mark and doesnt suck
Haha! I love the "hardcore" footage of the bobsledders spliced with the ride visuals - a wonderful wink to the original ride promo with the top fuel dragsters.
its literally just mr freeze without inverted tophat and no second booster only vertical booster on the spike and mr freeze is like 100 or 200 ft and 70 mph oh yeah and at st louis its backwards
the concept is AMAZING only issue would be load time/wait time. 1 train on the track at a time and have to wait until it reverses all the way back to the station even if there was a pre-loaded train in the station.
If I could have, I would have implemented a double-loading station with a transfer onto the main track. Wouldn’t fit CP’s capacity needs, but it would double loading times. This is more-or-less a parody though, so I’m not too concerned about it!
@@GermiesCoasterYard it's a depressing parody because in my head i'm thinking "dammit cedar point please make this !!!" great design brother, going backwards up the main hill would be epic !!!!
@@GermiesCoasterYard same, told my buddy the other day if you win the lottery and someone asks what you are going to do there are only 3 proper answers 1) nothing, nothing at all just sleep without worry 2) whatever the hell I want 3) who cares, I no longer have obligations, LOL !!!
The 7 seconds thing had me go eeww, until the new section came up... This would be quite awesome. Unfortunately, the capacity would be awful. Maybe some sort of switch track after it comes down the spike that leads to the station
I was kinda hoping everything after the spike would just have the word blind in it. Blind turnaround, blind tunnel, blind boost... Hilarious still though
Needs a transfer track at the station for higher load capacity per hour. How fast does it get up to, to climb up over 500 feet? How fast does it get on the 500 foot+ reverse drop? Thank you for not including unnecessary trim brakes!
As you see it in the video, the ride reaches 109mph on the launch, climbs the tower at ~50mph, and reaches 120mph at the bottom of the tower. I’m sorry to say for the steam workshop version, I had to trim it on the way down the tower so it wouldn’t pull 5+ Gs at the bottom and around the overbank. But that’s the I it spot and it makes the reverse boost feel like one.
Imagine the speed you would reach going down the spike in reverse and into the overbank turn before climbing up the top hat 🤯 This would be so intense knowing that you need quite the same speed to go back up the top hat as going straight up the first time! 😬
Yeah we aren't gonna talk about the design mistakes that made it into the render... the ride in the video definitely pulls some... high... Gs 😂. The version I released on the Steam Workshop corrected those issues.
Honestly a really solid concept! Love the idea of the center spike and reversing over the top hat. Two things would need solving: 1) Ride capacity. Likely would need a switch track or two at the station. 2) Besides the initial launch, remove some of the "flat" areas of the ride. Extreme speed is nice, but a good airtime hill after the top hat would be the cherry on top. Alternatively, you could include a heart line roll after the top hat. Would that be the fastest inversion in the world? ~120mph.
For that, have it only do a backwards fall, add in the brake run and make it roll into the station afterwards. Use turntables as well to maximize capacity
Cedar Point's location is why it doesn't. They get CRAZY weather on the lake, which means they have a narrower window for their operating season than most other parks. They don't even stay open for the holiday season, which many other parks now do.
Yeah, ideally, it would have a dual-station and maybe longer trains so it could always be loading. Still wouldn't be great capacity though. More would have to be done.
That looks like it would be an insanely fun ride, but it would never be feasible without some way to get the train back to the station if it rolls back on the reverse run.
This design would need a way to get a train that has valleyed between the tophat and spike back over the tophat. This is going to happen at some point, guaranteed, all it would take is a failure of the boost motors on the spike. The simplest way would be to add LSMs to the section from 3:47 to 3:49, maybe even further up the spike. These, combined with the ones after the tophat, should be able to sufficiently speed up a valleyed train through multiple passes. The other issue is capacity. With a ride time of about 1:30, and let's assume a minute to unload, load and check the train, that would be one dispatch every 2:30, that's 24 dispatches per hour. You've got a 24 seat train, so that works out to an hourly capacity of 576. That's roughly a third of what this ride would need. Now, if you were to add a second station and second train, with a switch track leading from the stations into the ride, you could have one train start its ride as soon as the other one finishes. One dispatch every 1:30 = 40 dispatches per hour = 960 hourly capacity. Much better, but still low. Maybe consider a longer train? A 36 seat train will get you up to an excellent 1440 with two trains and two stations.
Ideally it would have a double station, but that wouldn’t be enough to give it a high enough capacity. It would need at least 4 trains to have a feasible capacity, but at that point, you might as well build a giant accelerator instead of a giant mr freeze 😂
You could probably get to 120 mph way faster than 7 seconds- I speed has almost the same level of acceleration as xcelerator and it was intamin's fourth lsm coaster ever
I think it could be done too. I mainly reduced the acceleration and extended the launch track to account for the supposed weakness of LSM versus Hydraulic launches. That said, I think leaving the "7 seconds" in adds to the comedic value 😂
Very great concept .. everyone will be puking on the back of people's heads. Who knows what they're gonna do. Hopefully Keep it the same but taller w lim brakes n launch to 500. I thought the King Da Ka bunny hill n slower brakes would've solved the whole problem.. i guess we'll see eh?
I don’t think a coaster layout can be “owned.” If anybody owns the rights to a layout, it would be the manufacturer/designer. For instance, Raptor at CP has a clone somewhere in China, and for that matter, there are several roller coaster models such as Verona Boomerangs and RMC Raptors that are clones.
@@GermiesCoasterYard true but premier likes to work with Six flags alot. I don't know if premier parks is related or not i looked it up and I got nothing. It's still a cool concept tho you should face the trains backwards for a better experience. Going up the spike backwards is awesome.
Keep dreaming Cedar point will never do nothing like that. Nothings going to change on the top thrill dragster they’re just fixing the launch system and changing the entrance.
Best part about it is its insane capacity of 48rph.
My first thought. Lol.
Yeah
Hahaha nice.
if we add a dual loading station, we will be at an even more impressive 96rph
One word: turntables.
This is one of the funnier non realistic dragster memes 😂 making it look like freeze is hilarious
joking aside this is an incredible idea imo. like this seems like just about the least amount of construction that a park could do right now still end up with a ride that breaks the 500 foot mark and doesnt suck
Capacity is 38 riders an hour 😂😂
@williscockfit1994 turn table could work, worse case scenario is that Cedar Point could build another 4 for better capacity.
or maybe it can valley too after the spike going back into the top hat
Loved your work on This is How We Roll👌
OMG JOHAN LENOX MY BIGGEST FAN
As someone terrified of rollercoasters, the more terrified I am of one is a good indicator that it is more fun. I concur this is an awesome design!
This was incredibly well made and I love how you mimicked the actual Top Thrill Dragster Announcement from 2003!
Haha! I love the "hardcore" footage of the bobsledders spliced with the ride visuals - a wonderful wink to the original ride promo with the top fuel dragsters.
I would actually be happy with this, as long as it maintains the original intensity the powerful launch TTD had or something close to it.
In all seriousness.. this would be INSANE
This is a real ride mr freeze
its literally just mr freeze without inverted tophat and no second booster only vertical booster on the spike and mr freeze is like 100 or 200 ft and 70 mph
oh yeah and at st louis its backwards
This is actually an amazing concept. Great work. This would be the coolest coaster on the planet!
Yeah with 12hr wait times
@@brandonbaker7468 Nah, they'll have super Freezer Fastlane passes for 320 dollars a one time ride!!!
its not original its stolen from mr freeze reverse blast
the concept is AMAZING only issue would be load time/wait time. 1 train on the track at a time and have to wait until it reverses all the way back to the station even if there was a pre-loaded train in the station.
If I could have, I would have implemented a double-loading station with a transfer onto the main track. Wouldn’t fit CP’s capacity needs, but it would double loading times. This is more-or-less a parody though, so I’m not too concerned about it!
@@GermiesCoasterYard it's a depressing parody because in my head i'm thinking "dammit cedar point please make this !!!" great design brother, going backwards up the main hill would be epic !!!!
@@jonathanmanning7291 I appreciate it. If I ever win the lottery… 🤔
@@GermiesCoasterYard same, told my buddy the other day if you win the lottery and someone asks what you are going to do there are only 3 proper answers 1) nothing, nothing at all just sleep without worry 2) whatever the hell I want 3) who cares, I no longer have obligations, LOL !!!
Probably still easier to get on than top thrill downtime
the vertical spike on freeze is one of the best things on any coaster
THIS NEEDS TO BE THE NEW TOP THRILL DRAG- oop I mean TOP CHILL FREEZER
The 7 seconds thing had me go eeww, until the new section came up... This would be quite awesome. Unfortunately, the capacity would be awful. Maybe some sort of switch track after it comes down the spike that leads to the station
This was good bro 😄🥶ridden top thrill 3x 😂😅
Epic
I feel like cedar point will see this and say yes this is a good idea and may build it
I was kinda hoping everything after the spike would just have the word blind in it. Blind turnaround, blind tunnel, blind boost... Hilarious still though
LOL
WHY ARE COASTER ENTHUSIAST SOO GOOD AT RENAMING RIDES TO MEMES
unironically though this is super super good and might end up being #2 in the park
edit: this would definitely be #2 in the park
I'm not much of one to brag about my own work, but I can't help but think the vertical spike would be pretty awesome in real life!
I think it would be #1, TTD was my favorite.
@@GermiesCoasterYard yeah it would, I felt that spike through my screen
Needs a transfer track at the station for higher load capacity per hour.
How fast does it get up to, to climb up over 500 feet?
How fast does it get on the 500 foot+ reverse drop?
Thank you for not including unnecessary trim brakes!
As you see it in the video, the ride reaches 109mph on the launch, climbs the tower at ~50mph, and reaches 120mph at the bottom of the tower. I’m sorry to say for the steam workshop version, I had to trim it on the way down the tower so it wouldn’t pull 5+ Gs at the bottom and around the overbank. But that’s the I it spot and it makes the reverse boost feel like one.
That As Tall As The Washington Monument.
Imagine the speed you would reach going down the spike in reverse and into the overbank turn before climbing up the top hat 🤯 This would be so intense knowing that you need quite the same speed to go back up the top hat as going straight up the first time! 😬
I can imagine how high the G force would be on this ride.
Yeah we aren't gonna talk about the design mistakes that made it into the render... the ride in the video definitely pulls some... high... Gs 😂. The version I released on the Steam Workshop corrected those issues.
Mr. Freeze: Goliath Blast
Honestly a really solid concept! Love the idea of the center spike and reversing over the top hat. Two things would need solving: 1) Ride capacity. Likely would need a switch track or two at the station.
2) Besides the initial launch, remove some of the "flat" areas of the ride. Extreme speed is nice, but a good airtime hill after the top hat would be the cherry on top. Alternatively, you could include a heart line roll after the top hat. Would that be the fastest inversion in the world? ~120mph.
For that, have it only do a backwards fall, add in the brake run and make it roll into the station afterwards. Use turntables as well to maximize capacity
THIS IS AMAZING!!! lol! I love the 120 mph IN 7 SECONDS!!
Dragster has been real quiet since this dropped
😂
Only downside is the 550 drop is backwards. It's kind of wasted that way, would be way cooler looking straight down at the ground
great comment i love you so much :)
I am so excited to ride top chill freezer but I think cedar point should go year round so it can be ridden at its full potential in the winter months
Top Chill Windburn
Cedar Point's location is why it doesn't. They get CRAZY weather on the lake, which means they have a narrower window for their operating season than most other parks. They don't even stay open for the holiday season, which many other parks now do.
That boost after the free fall is much needed
Dude! This is genius!
This is an interesting idea. I never seen a roller coaster design like this before
This actually would be really fun, except for capacity lol
Yeah, ideally, it would have a dual-station and maybe longer trains so it could always be loading. Still wouldn't be great capacity though. More would have to be done.
This is a cool concept actually. I also love the voice you reenacted as if this was a commercial/announcement.
Very nice creation and imagination ! There's a wink to Mr Freeze, no ? :) The queue would be too long (like 2x) but the layout would be amazing.
this is AMAZING but imagine that capacity
I'm all for the rollback section! I had one rollback on TTD.
This was Mr. Freeze’s goal all along….never to put Gotham City in an eternal winter as we thought..
Now everybody gets a rollback lol
World's worst capacity 🤣
Ghost rider would like a word
With a pinch of freeze and chill theming this would be an incredible ride!
It’s so cool how you combine mr freeze and top thrill dragster
Man didn't know you were chill like that🥶🥶🥶
Top chill freezer is where I store my meats.
Alternative title: Top Thrill Dragster X Mr. Freeze reverse blast
That looks like it would be an insanely fun ride, but it would never be feasible without some way to get the train back to the station if it rolls back on the reverse run.
This design would need a way to get a train that has valleyed between the tophat and spike back over the tophat. This is going to happen at some point, guaranteed, all it would take is a failure of the boost motors on the spike. The simplest way would be to add LSMs to the section from 3:47 to 3:49, maybe even further up the spike. These, combined with the ones after the tophat, should be able to sufficiently speed up a valleyed train through multiple passes.
The other issue is capacity. With a ride time of about 1:30, and let's assume a minute to unload, load and check the train, that would be one dispatch every 2:30, that's 24 dispatches per hour. You've got a 24 seat train, so that works out to an hourly capacity of 576. That's roughly a third of what this ride would need. Now, if you were to add a second station and second train, with a switch track leading from the stations into the ride, you could have one train start its ride as soon as the other one finishes. One dispatch every 1:30 = 40 dispatches per hour = 960 hourly capacity. Much better, but still low. Maybe consider a longer train? A 36 seat train will get you up to an excellent 1440 with two trains and two stations.
This ride takes on after Mr. Freeze in more ways than one!
I love how this is **definetly** not a mr freeze clone
This would be awesome!
This is so funny Top thrill Dragster may Be rethemed to a Formula one racing or just the same.
I loved this reimagination, but only the future will say what they are really planning
Agreed! This was just for fun, but I’ve kept an open mind and haven’t paid much attention to speculation 😂
@@GermiesCoasterYardThis is a lot better than what they're planning.
How Fast Will That Go.
i think the ride would do better if the launch started backwards so you look straight down in the spike.
Canada decided to give some ideas.
Imagine a ride where you get a roll back on first launch and then a roll forward on the way back 🤣
It's a Mr. Freeze parody!
Top Thrill Mr. Freeze
chill
Crazy I was just thinking about this exact thing yesterday lol
i present to you, the single worst capacity ride ever.
incredibly fun concept though
Damn I guess I should have been faster about making a video for this exact thing. I made it months ago and just sat on it.
Yeah, I had this project sitting around too and decided to finish it after CP made their announcement. I'd love to see your take on it, though!
I know this isn’t gonna happen but holy shit I wish it wox
I like this idea much better than adding a spiral spike.
So Top Chill Freezer is your take on Top Thrill Dragster>
we can now count this idea out.
Never say never. Maybe after the next accident 😂
That would be the best thing ever!
Next coaster should be Top Wacky Worm
With your blessing, Herr Stengel!
Very Groovy!!!
i see no issues with this at all, will work 100%!
Alternate ride name:
Top Thrill Rollback 💀
Mr Freeze Reverse Blast but not even the GP is gonna ride it:
Awesome, but we don't need another blue coaster in this joint!
Yes... just YES
Would this have a switch track loading station like Mr Freeze?
If so, I'll take 2. Just put them up in my back yard.
Ideally it would have a double station, but that wouldn’t be enough to give it a high enough capacity. It would need at least 4 trains to have a feasible capacity, but at that point, you might as well build a giant accelerator instead of a giant mr freeze 😂
@@GermiesCoasterYard I lost my give a d@mn, I need this in my adrenaline driven life. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That would be so sweet!!!
Missed the opportunity to call it top chill drugster
imagine top thrill dragster but a bobsled
If NL2 ads bobsled coasters to the game, I think I’ll make that idea… “Top Chill 2”
If they can pull it off, I would ride it.
Top thrill dragster got a frostbite 😂
You got it.
Looks amazing other than capacity on shuttle coasters
That would be awsome
Are the trains backwards? Prob not, but if they were, six flags would be mad. They would be mad regardless if this was real
This is cursed
I love it
Think this ride should have a switch track to have more rph.
You could probably get to 120 mph way faster than 7 seconds- I speed has almost the same level of acceleration as xcelerator and it was intamin's fourth lsm coaster ever
I think it could be done too. I mainly reduced the acceleration and extended the launch track to account for the supposed weakness of LSM versus Hydraulic launches. That said, I think leaving the "7 seconds" in adds to the comedic value 😂
Imagine this layout as a B&M Flyer!
Good idea!
Great Ride - the problem is:
Where do I queue for TCF?
That would be the parking lot mate!
Nope...the causeway.
Even better in a few years they can turn the trains around and rebrand it as a new ride
Please upload this work of art to steam! I'd love to bust out my VR for it!
Thanks for the idea! Here it is:
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917636440&result=1
Let me know if it looks good in VR!
Less than 100 rider per hour throughput hahaha
Mr. Freeze 2.0 be like
This would be amazing if they did this instead of a dumb swing launch
Oh yeahh mister freeze i know that one
Very great concept .. everyone will be puking on the back of people's heads. Who knows what they're gonna do. Hopefully Keep it the same but taller w lim brakes n launch to 500. I thought the King Da Ka bunny hill n slower brakes would've solved the whole problem.. i guess we'll see eh?
Couldn't they get sued by six flags by stealing their mr freeze design and making it bigger
I don’t think a coaster layout can be “owned.” If anybody owns the rights to a layout, it would be the manufacturer/designer. For instance, Raptor at CP has a clone somewhere in China, and for that matter, there are several roller coaster models such as Verona Boomerangs and RMC Raptors that are clones.
@@GermiesCoasterYard true but premier likes to work with Six flags alot. I don't know if premier parks is related or not i looked it up and I got nothing. It's still a cool concept tho you should face the trains backwards for a better experience. Going up the spike backwards is awesome.
Enjoyed your work
CP already has two blue colored coasters......Gatekeeper and Millenium Force. This would be too much blue ?!
Well they currently have three red colored coasters, so I’m actually doing them a favor.
I love Mr Freeze, but omg this would have the worst capacity for Cedar Point
550 Feet That Taller Then Kinda Ka.
The ride is 94ft taller than Kingda Ka and the rendering reaches a top speed of 109mph
@@GermiesCoasterYard well it said it goes 120
Keep dreaming Cedar point will never do nothing like that. Nothings going to change on the top thrill dragster they’re just fixing the launch system and changing the entrance.