God, what a beauty! Thank you for giving a punk/metal vibe! I tend to play hard rock, so to hear something hard hitting and within a noisier context *really* helps me properly contextualize the sound within a sound space I’d put the drum into. Also either it’s new or I just started noticing it, but I appreciate you putting a “Cody” name tag at the start of the video. You guys do great work and deserve recognition by name
Love the round, warm attack. As a satisfied player of a 1969 LM400, it’s not often that I hear a snare drum that makes me go, “I should have one of those!” This one makes me do that.
Of all the snares I own, my copper Collector series is my favorite. Great to see copper getting some love! I really like the idea of the wood bearing edge on copper...and such a gorgeous instrument!!!
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Your videos are great and it can't be more timely as virtually all of us are sitting at home waiting for their next snare purchase!! Always dig the format and subject of your videos.
Dude 😱 🤯 I knew it was a bad idea to watch and mainly listen to this right when I saw the cover pic. First time I’ve ever heard this company. You adding in the part about how you didn’t change the wires even when you had to change the reso a tiny bit, that just blew me away. That doesn’t happen often.
If you mean a copper shell with a wooden bearing edge then yes. We could point out drum companies that have been making loosely related drums for years all day long but it's the details that make this drum perform differently from how a snare from Q with their approach sounds. We're not saying that Offbeat Drum Co. invented a new system or anything but we sure do love the way that they're making these drums and what they yield in performance. -Ben
I was thinking the very same thing! From the video, it is unclear as to whether or not the bearing edges are laminated(I mean plywood - akin to Qdrum co's 10ply maple bearing edges from Keller stock shells) or if they are steam bent, but likely the former. I have seen photos of a vintage brass shell with wood edges also, and this shell was welded and these bands of wood steam bent into shape, but I cannot find the photo at the present time. It is also the case that I have not heard much from the Q Drum co, but then again, being off social media to a large extant, having other things to do, and avoiding advertising as best I can, It cannot be said that I have any authority in questioning the activity (and therfore the life and relevance) of Q drum co. In my opinion (which I should restrict myself from posting here, as it perhaps is hyperbolic, and above all hypocritical, as I myself cannot make a better instrument)... there is a certain lack of craftsmanship in these instruments, but I believe this is a fault not of Q drums or Offbeat, but of our society. Many would perceive the techniques and equipment required to make more refined drums prohibitive, and indeed, what would have been the perfect drum is now a product of automation, which obscures the art. I should not be chided for signalling out drums alone! It is the case that the Appollo rocket cannot be replicated because of the changes to its design made on the fly by welders who were so skilled as to be virtuosos or prodigies. It would appear that in my lifetime we do not appreciate these more basic, even primitive, tenants of human ingenuity. However, I view the efforts of these builders of drums as an effort to reclaim and recombine elements which have been taken for granted. What we will witness is a new breed of craftsmen who not only break the mold, but are able to reform it also by an uncompromising will.
Gotta be that guy. Dearth means scarcity. I've made that mistake a million times at this point. I think the word I was thinking of was breadth when I would use it.
Hey love the video but (If possible) could you do a more in depth demonstration on how tom mounting systems effect drum Tone instead of sustain? In particular it’s effect on cheaper shells vs expensive ones Also, I nearly bought a copper snare drum recently 😂 went for a hammered bronze shell instead 👌
I've seen two types of snares on the market that require further investigation, if you will: 1 - GMS Drums out in your neck of the woods there (or close to) has a snare series called "Revolution" which is a thin sheet of steel, aluminum or copper (I think) sprayed on the inside of a maple (or choice of wood) shell. The combination is supposed to give you the best of both worlds. It would be interesting to see how these drums sound/function in the field. 2 - Tama has released the Ron Bruner Signature snare, 5.5x14, which is a steel shell (painted of course) with a shell of walnut sitting inside the shell. Curious as to construction methods of both snares (probably getting into proprietary territory here, so we may not get much from GMS/Tama). I am thinking of getting both of these snares to expand my snare palette, as well as not blow all the gig money on snares while still having unique sound options. There are cymbals to buy. :-p Cheers!
We'd be happy to tackle these if GMS Drums and/or Tama gets in touch with us for a feature. Unfortunately, we're not sure if GMS is still making drums these days. Haven't seen much from them in a while.
It was this video that made me sub! Thank you for this! I myself am a drummer and that is my whole channel! This is so helpful! Thank you! I hope to achieve what you have one day!
The Garage Life this guy is amazing! I subbed as well! Also garage life you are a great drummer I checked out your channel and subbed you are great as well!
A guy with a Camera thank you so much! You know my goal is 75 before the end of the month and I have 63 at the moment! I’m really excited! And thank you for your sub! Means a lot!
If I had an extra $700 for a snare right now, THAT would be at the top of my list. I'm not usually one for metal snares, but this is amazing both visually and sonically!
Absolutely beautiful drum. A bit like the pork pies brass patina. A lot of these videos showcasing drums and cymbals and what not usually are missing one thing in my opinion. A control instrument to help judge the actual characteristics. If you used a control snare with the same tunning in these videos I think it would help with hearing the individual characteristics of the highlighted snare.
Beautiful snare, my god There is an Italian drum company that has made an hybrid drum set, it is made of wood and metal: the shell is divided into 3 parts, the externals are made of wood and the one in the center is metal, it is a similar approach to sound experimentation
Hi Cody and Ben. First of all huge thank you for all the useful knowledge on this channel. I have seen and applied a good bunch of the ideas from your videos. I want to ask if you have tried to upgrade a “budget” snare drum with higher quality hardware (hoops, snare mechanism, wires, everything). I’m not sure if this topic has been covered before. Maybe you have tried off camera. I need your help wether you recommend this or not. Cheers!
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Great reviews. The wood/metal mix offers soooooo much versatility. I'm sponsored by Vessel drums (formerly Bleifus drum co). They recently made me a wood/copper mixed snare. It's three plies of bird's-eye maple, one ply copper, three more b-eyemaple and the interior ply is copper. The lugs and rims were dipped in Rose gold and Preston (the owner) put a trick multi position throw off on it for me. The drum sounds amazing, but it's only one of the dozens of amazing creations he's made. I highly suggest you review the AWESOME work being done over at Vessel drums in North county San Diego, California
What a beautiful drum! I know exactly what you mean about the Supraphonic thing, I picked up a Noble & Cooley Alloy Classic as my "Supra stand in". Nothing against Supra's but we've all heard them plenty by now, I feel like it's nice to have a drum that fills a similar role but is also unique. Quick question: if you had to choose one budget friendly mic to track a drum kit in a medium sized rehearsal space, what would you choose?
Great video! I’ll send this video to Mike Outlaw of Outlaw Drums in Georgia. He makes stave built drums from recycled buildings and old woods and might like the exposure.
Sounds Like A Drum: Me as well. It’s what brought me to him in the first place. He thinks outside the box like you guys do, and that’s always a great thing! 🤘🏻❤️
I purchased an offbeat snare drum very similar to this early in 2020...... They certainly are aesthetically pleasing...... A few words of caution at least from my personal experience...... Right out of the shipping box typically the first thing I do is detune and retune any snare drum I purchase. the first thing I noticed when I was attempting to unscrew a lugs on the snare side was several of them were difficult to unscrew...... that always makes me nervous with any drum because of the possible implications of bent lug screws or off-center lugs or worse yet a drum that is not in the round. I literally had to lean on the drum hoop for certain of the lugs to get them loose because they were binding..... And one of the lug screws twirled its way out because it was very crooked..... As if it had been forced in in the first place....... I found pretty much the same on the batter side...... It was difficult to unscrew the lugs.... Normally there's a uniform point where you can finger loosen or finger tighten lug screws..... This drum was inconsistent.... some lugs you could and others you had to use the tuning key the entire time both to loosen and tighten them..... Mind you all of this was literally minutes after being lifted out of the shipping box...... I took all the lugs out and lubricated them but it didn't seem to help much..... I will buy a couple of more lug screws to replace the crooked ones but I think it is the off center lugs that are causing them to be crooked..... Also it wasn't as much of a problem but the snare wires were not at all tight in the butt plate..... With the snare as tight as it would turn it was still loose and rattled.... I was able to make that adjustment myself....... I fear that because the drum is so thin that perhaps it is not round.... It is beautifully light to carry and after great time spent attempting to tune it I think it sounds good..... Fortunately for me I am just a basement drum hobbyist.... If I showed up at a gig and tried to tune this thing with the lug screws hanging up and having to lean on the drum to loosen them I would probably be upset.... So once again as far as Aesthetics go this thing is one-of-a-kind and it really looks sharp.... For the money you could probably pick up any number of new or second-hand big company snare drums that would have a lot better workmanship...... Or maybe mine was just a one-off and all the other ones are fine... I don't know I can only say what I experienced.....
I didn't see a mic under the snare? Would be nice to hear more of the snare wires as the dominant sound is the top/ring especially with brushes and buzzing. This isn't a rag on the video, just was a suggestion. This, like all these videos are brilliant.
Thanks for watching! We minimize the use of close mics in order to preserve the most acoustically transparent representation of the drum sound. The SM57 on the batter used sparingly. We feel that the presence of the snare wires is represented as we've intended with these videos. -Ben
We’ve been told that this particular drum is available. Price is $699. Best bet is to contact Jordan at Offbeat Drum Co. directly through his website or social channels. Cheers!
Sorry I just saw this comment. You can find my drums directly from OBDCo. through my website (www.offbeatdrumco.com) or via Reverb.com. You can also find them at Fork's Drum Closet in Nashville, TN. I believe Fork's also has their available inventory posted on Reverb.com as well! Hope that helps, glad you like the drums!
In contrast to the Tama Ronald Bruner Jr Signature snare with the 1 mm steel shell that has a 6 ply Black Walnut shell tucked under the rolled bearing edges this snare is a wood shell top and bottom bridged by a copper shell while the former is simply a metal drum with a wood shell pressed against it. I’d like to hear a head to head comparison of a few of these hybrid drums. One has its edges interrupted or bridged with a different material while the other has its main shell material dampened by another shell material.
Comparison videos like what you've described are something we'd absolutely love to be able to devote the resources to producing but it's just not feasible right now. As you can imagine, there are a lot of logistics involved just when it comes to getting the appropriate drums not to mention production. At this point, we want to get Season 3 up and running with the support of our viewers and, if we receive enough support, we can move forward with our dreams of launching a comparison series unlike anything else out there. Please consider joining our Patreon to help make this possible. -Ben
Wonderful how long those wood edges will last? Are they thin? Are they replaceable? and better question! Could they be interchangeable? to let's say a 90 degree round edge?! Holy shit! That would be awesome!
No reason why they should last for the life of the drum. You could get them replaced if you needed to though. The system here isn’t really designed to make them interchangeable but that’s something that you could chat with Jordan at Offbeat Drums about. -Ben
Aside from a slip-up on the jig while cutting snare beds, I've never had to replace any of the re-rings, but there's no reason why it couldn't be done if necessary. Swapping the bearing edges out on a drum is certainly an interesting idea. I'll have to think on that a bit.
There is a rabbet on the re-rings and they are pressed into the copper. The rivets are there as a secondary mechanical fastener to make sure that the rings can't be removed even when the drum has no heads on it. The force from the heads is not being transmitted through the rivets, they would shear under that sort of loading. Hope that helps! Glad you like the drum!
Hey Cody, I have a question. What’s your experience with durability of black nickel hardware? Does it chip off? Also what about black chrome/whats the difference?
I've actually got a DW Edge snare. WAY too thick for it to be comparable to something like this though. Nowhere near the dynamic range of the Offbeat Drum Co. drum. -Ben
I can ship internationally but there are some added costs depending on the country. Import tariffs, value-added taxes, etc. I was in the process of trying to find a brokerage to help navigate some of those customs requirements for different markets but COVID-19 has temporarily slowed that search down. Hopefully soon though!
@@offbeatdrumcompany2568 Yeah taxes are a big chunk, at least here in Finland. But your products seem to be priced very reasonably, so even with taxes and shipping costs a snare would be a good buy.
Nice sounding drum. I am definitely breaking the 10th commandment. Personal question: I see your left stick is choked almost to the end. How does it rebound being choked so far up? I also use traditional grip but I can't get much rebound and speed choked that far up. (I'm an old-style rudimental swing drummer, BTW) Thanks for your videos. I really enjoy them.
Hi Very interesting snare, I'm not satisfied with my snare sound and would like to know ways of removing a massive amount of overtones, I'm not a fan of them ringing on into the next beat. Side note: going "down in the bumps", produced a very "gimme all your lovin', ZZtop" vibe 🤘😎🤘
All cymbal features will be available on our Patreon as a. new exclusive series. Essentially a cymbal version of Seasons One and Two of Sounds Like a Drum.
Which cymbals are those? I think I have seen them around, especially the hats, but I have never caught what brand they are and they sound really nice. Does anyone know?
There is always a potential for mechanical fasteners to come loose over time, but to my knowledge that has never been an issue on any of OBDCo. drums. Admittedly I can only point to the oldest examples as evidence but after several years I've never had any complaints.
Similar in concept but still a bit apples : oranges. Completely different joining process between the edges and the shell, the wooden portion is just the edge/re-ring rather than a third of the shell as a whole. This behaves quite differently overall.
the cruel irony of the beautiful finished snare drum, weather its wood or solid silver, is that they hide behind all the drums and cymbals, never to be seen by neither player or fan..... so sad is the irony.... and long the day... sigh.. whatever i still bought one... woot!!
Yet another BIG snare with a big snare drum sound. I know a lot of people like this...Not me; I find it kind of boring. Where are the smaller, and more unique, sized snare drums?? Piccolos, popcorns, in-betweens...Blind tests at all tunings, I would still guess a big 14" snare with at least a 6" depth.
Got a particular drum you'd like to hear? Hit up the builder and let them know that they should get in touch with us. The two modern snares we've featured, while they've been 8" and 6.5" deep, have been significantly different from anything remotely standard. We'll cover other drums as time goes by and more builders become interested. Thanks for watching!
That sucker sounds goooooood! My bank account is developing a dislike of this channel..... I think it is of Jewish decent My bank account, NOT the snare
Betula Obscura My Gretsch “Bell Brass” snare is a BEAST. Not sure what metal it’s made of exactly .....more than likely a B8 - B10 Bronze. This is one SOLID snare. No pun intended.
Not sure I'd purchase a drum like this if I was looking for something that behaves like a cast metal snare. Different purpose. Also, the amount of projection from some seamless/cast metal drums isn't always what you're looking for. Options are a beautiful thing! Still, good to know what doesn't work for you though.
I love these snares so much. Jordan killed it as always!
Thank you sir!
You can really get lost in that finish. Love it.
This video is fostering
tremendous covetousness.
This drum is available too...
@@SoundsLikeADrum where would one find it for sale? 🤤
@@jeffmason6900 Up in here...
www.offbeatdrumco.com/
@@jeffmason6900 This exact snare is sold, but you can find more like it on www.offbeatdrumco.com.
It has a melodic sound, I can't decide if it is dark or warm. I love it.
Definitely a bit of both as far as we're concerned. Love how it handles the higher tuning without getting at all shrill.
The goal was to combine the characteristics of the wood and the copper together to create a blend of both! Glad you like it!
This is like the Van Gogh "Starry Night" of snare drums. Pretty stunning. Great video, per usual, and hope you guys are staying safe and healthy.
God, what a beauty! Thank you for giving a punk/metal vibe! I tend to play hard rock, so to hear something hard hitting and within a noisier context *really* helps me properly contextualize the sound within a sound space I’d put the drum into. Also either it’s new or I just started noticing it, but I appreciate you putting a “Cody” name tag at the start of the video. You guys do great work and deserve recognition by name
That is a gorgeous, unique drum.
Thank you!
Love the round, warm attack. As a satisfied player of a 1969 LM400, it’s not often that I hear a snare drum that makes me go, “I should have one of those!” This one makes me do that.
Of all the snares I own, my copper Collector series is my favorite. Great to see copper getting some love! I really like the idea of the wood bearing edge on copper...and such a gorgeous instrument!!!
Incredible snare, fantastic video! Never stop what you're doing! You're simply the best drum-themed channel out there.
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@@SoundsLikeADrum Definetly considering it, never tried patreon before so I might aswell.
Sooooooo nice, really need that drum
If ever there was a perfect snare sound, for me this is it. I need one!
Snare spotlight = more snare samples to add to my library.
Enjoy!
I do the same. Cymbal demos are a great resource too!
just a heads up dearth means a shortage of. Also beautiful snare, a lot of warmth and projection in this drum.
Right you are!
@@SoundsLikeADrum Next time try Plethora
@@macvoutie Or glut.
@@argerm57 Cornucopia?
Yeah sounds like a copper snare drum but looks like Jupiter!
Edit: oh there it is, I knew it sounded like a copper snare drum!
WOW... @ 9:04... the sound of the drum and the groove was soooo ZZ Top Sharp Dressed Man. Very cool sounding.
Thanks for inspiring.
Thanks for watching!
I like that a lot! One of the better sounding snares I have heard in a while, especially that rimshot! Thanks for sharing!
That's very kind of you to say! Glad you like it!
Your videos are great and it can't be more timely as virtually all of us are sitting at home waiting for their next snare purchase!! Always dig the format and subject of your videos.
medium tuned with the snares off really reminded me of the intro to some of your videos!
Dude 😱 🤯
I knew it was a bad idea to watch and mainly listen to this right when I saw the cover pic.
First time I’ve ever heard this company.
You adding in the part about how you didn’t change the wires even when you had to change the reso a tiny bit, that just blew me away. That doesn’t happen often.
Glad you like it Rory!
That´s a real cool snare drum! Love it! :-)
What a beautiful instrument!
To my ear copper produces the darkest 'noir' bell like resonance of any other material of the same proportions. My favourite material.
This drum + Genera batter = perfection!
This drum is just stellar. It sounds amazing...looks amazing and it's now on my hit list. Thanks for sharing!!!
Glad you like it!
Whoah what a snare!
Glad you like it!
Never get tired of you guys. Your tone and serious deliver mekes this site a class on its own. Thank you Cody!
These are so unbelievably cool looking. I’m definitely thinking hard about getting one of the Leviathan models.
That’s a great sounding snare.. so full
qDrum co. has been building these types of snare drums for years!
If you mean a copper shell with a wooden bearing edge then yes. We could point out drum companies that have been making loosely related drums for years all day long but it's the details that make this drum perform differently from how a snare from Q with their approach sounds. We're not saying that Offbeat Drum Co. invented a new system or anything but we sure do love the way that they're making these drums and what they yield in performance. -Ben
I was thinking the very same thing! From the video, it is unclear as to whether or not the bearing edges are laminated(I mean plywood - akin to Qdrum co's 10ply maple bearing edges from Keller stock shells) or if they are steam bent, but likely the former. I have seen photos of a vintage brass shell with wood edges also, and this shell was welded and these bands of wood steam bent into shape, but I cannot find the photo at the present time. It is also the case that I have not heard much from the Q Drum co, but then again, being off social media to a large extant, having other things to do, and avoiding advertising as best I can, It cannot be said that I have any authority in questioning the activity (and therfore the life and relevance) of Q drum co.
In my opinion (which I should restrict myself from posting here, as it perhaps is hyperbolic, and above all hypocritical, as I myself cannot make a better instrument)... there is a certain lack of craftsmanship in these instruments, but I believe this is a fault not of Q drums or Offbeat, but of our society. Many would perceive the techniques and equipment required to make more refined drums prohibitive, and indeed, what would have been the perfect drum is now a product of automation, which obscures the art. I should not be chided for signalling out drums alone! It is the case that the Appollo rocket cannot be replicated because of the changes to its design made on the fly by welders who were so skilled as to be virtuosos or prodigies. It would appear that in my lifetime we do not appreciate these more basic, even primitive, tenants of human ingenuity. However, I view the efforts of these builders of drums as an effort to reclaim and recombine elements which have been taken for granted. What we will witness is a new breed of craftsmen who not only break the mold, but are able to reform it also by an uncompromising will.
I'm just obsessed with the sound of this drum! I need one in my life, RIGHT NOW!
Aaaand I just wen't ahead and placed an order. I'm so excited!
How do you like the drum? (:
@@whodemiz583 I bloody love it! I’ve never heard a better snare sound in my entire life. Well worth the money.
Oh boy this sounds nice.
Dope. I want a copper snare eventually. Just ordered a 14”x 5.5” Pork Pie Maple so copper will have to wait
Gotta be that guy. Dearth means scarcity. I've made that mistake a million times at this point. I think the word I was thinking of was breadth when I would use it.
Hey love the video but
(If possible) could you do a more in depth demonstration on how tom mounting systems effect drum Tone instead of sustain?
In particular it’s effect on cheaper shells vs expensive ones
Also, I nearly bought a copper snare drum recently 😂
went for a hammered bronze shell instead 👌
Wow so incredible at low tuning. Might have to pick one up.
I've seen two types of snares on the market that require further investigation, if you will: 1 - GMS Drums out in your neck of the woods there (or close to) has a snare series called "Revolution" which is a thin sheet of steel, aluminum or copper (I think) sprayed on the inside of a maple (or choice of wood) shell. The combination is supposed to give you the best of both worlds. It would be interesting to see how these drums sound/function in the field.
2 - Tama has released the Ron Bruner Signature snare, 5.5x14, which is a steel shell (painted of course) with a shell of walnut sitting inside the shell. Curious as to construction methods of both snares (probably getting into proprietary territory here, so we may not get much from GMS/Tama). I am thinking of getting both of these snares to expand my snare palette, as well as not blow all the gig money on snares while still having unique sound options. There are cymbals to buy. :-p Cheers!
We'd be happy to tackle these if GMS Drums and/or Tama gets in touch with us for a feature. Unfortunately, we're not sure if GMS is still making drums these days. Haven't seen much from them in a while.
Back in the day Ludwig had some chrome over wood snares...
It was this video that made me sub! Thank you for this! I myself am a drummer and that is my whole channel! This is so helpful! Thank you! I hope to achieve what you have one day!
The Garage Life this guy is amazing! I subbed as well!
Also garage life you are a great drummer I checked out your channel and subbed you are great as well!
A guy with a Camera thank you so much! You know my goal is 75 before the end of the month and I have 63 at the moment! I’m really excited! And thank you for your sub! Means a lot!
The Garage Life no problem my dude! And glad to help!
That is a beautiful and super interesting snare!
If I had an extra $700 for a snare right now, THAT would be at the top of my list. I'm not usually one for metal snares, but this is amazing both visually and sonically!
I hear ya! This one certainly bridges the gap between metal and wood shell drums. Cheers! -Ben
Absolutely beautiful drum. A bit like the pork pies brass patina. A lot of these videos showcasing drums and cymbals and what not usually are missing one thing in my opinion. A control instrument to help judge the actual characteristics. If you used a control snare with the same tunning in these videos I think it would help with hearing the individual characteristics of the highlighted snare.
This would be amazing live for metalcore
Beautiful snare, my god
There is an Italian drum company that has made an hybrid drum set, it is made of wood and metal: the shell is divided into 3 parts, the externals are made of wood and the one in the center is metal, it is a similar approach to sound experimentation
Hi Cody and Ben. First of all huge thank you for all the useful knowledge on this channel. I have seen and applied a good bunch of the ideas from your videos. I want to ask if you have tried to upgrade a “budget” snare drum with higher quality hardware (hoops, snare mechanism, wires, everything). I’m not sure if this topic has been covered before. Maybe you have tried off camera. I need your help wether you recommend this or not. Cheers!
Thanks for the kind words! We actually covered this topic at the end of Season Two: Getting The Most Out Of A Budget Snare Drum | Season Two, Episode 52
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iS It A seEaMlEsS ShElL???🤓
can't wait until people stop asking this question and just focus on how the drum sounds. this ones fantastic
@Dewey Rayburn uhhh clearly you missed my point 🤣
Maybe the coolest looking snare I've ever seen. Sounds as good as it looks too. I'd love to have one, but my wife would come unglued.
Great reviews. The wood/metal mix offers soooooo much versatility. I'm sponsored by Vessel drums (formerly Bleifus drum co). They recently made me a wood/copper mixed snare. It's three plies of bird's-eye maple, one ply copper, three more b-eyemaple and the interior ply is copper. The lugs and rims were dipped in Rose gold and Preston (the owner) put a trick multi position throw off on it for me. The drum sounds amazing, but it's only one of the dozens of amazing creations he's made. I highly suggest you review the AWESOME work being done over at Vessel drums in North county San Diego, California
Incredible drum. Gotta get back on my q drum aluminum plate snare to see if it can do all this:)
What a beautiful drum! I know exactly what you mean about the Supraphonic thing, I picked up a Noble & Cooley Alloy Classic as my "Supra stand in". Nothing against Supra's but we've all heard them plenty by now, I feel like it's nice to have a drum that fills a similar role but is also unique.
Quick question: if you had to choose one budget friendly mic to track a drum kit in a medium sized rehearsal space, what would you choose?
Wow love that snare were are they from 👏👏👏👏🥁🥁🥁🥁🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Made in Detroit!
Detroit, Michigan!
Great video!
I’ll send this video to Mike Outlaw of Outlaw Drums in Georgia. He makes stave built drums from recycled buildings and old woods and might like the exposure.
Been a fan of Mike’s work for a while! Love the reclaimed wood aspect.
Sounds Like A Drum: Me as well. It’s what brought me to him in the first place.
He thinks outside the box like you guys do, and that’s always a great thing! 🤘🏻❤️
I purchased an offbeat snare drum very similar to this early in 2020...... They certainly are aesthetically pleasing...... A few words of caution at least from my personal experience...... Right out of the shipping box typically the first thing I do is detune and retune any snare drum I purchase. the first thing I noticed when I was attempting to unscrew a lugs on the snare side was several of them were difficult to unscrew...... that always makes me nervous with any drum because of the possible implications of bent lug screws or off-center lugs or worse yet a drum that is not in the round. I literally had to lean on the drum hoop for certain of the lugs to get them loose because they were binding..... And one of the lug screws twirled its way out because it was very crooked..... As if it had been forced in in the first place....... I found pretty much the same on the batter side...... It was difficult to unscrew the lugs.... Normally there's a uniform point where you can finger loosen or finger tighten lug screws..... This drum was inconsistent.... some lugs you could and others you had to use the tuning key the entire time both to loosen and tighten them..... Mind you all of this was literally minutes after being lifted out of the shipping box...... I took all the lugs out and lubricated them but it didn't seem to help much..... I will buy a couple of more lug screws to replace the crooked ones but I think it is the off center lugs that are causing them to be crooked..... Also it wasn't as much of a problem but the snare wires were not at all tight in the butt plate..... With the snare as tight as it would turn it was still loose and rattled.... I was able to make that adjustment myself....... I fear that because the drum is so thin that perhaps it is not round.... It is beautifully light to carry and after great time spent attempting to tune it I think it sounds good..... Fortunately for me I am just a basement drum hobbyist.... If I showed up at a gig and tried to tune this thing with the lug screws hanging up and having to lean on the drum to loosen them I would probably be upset.... So once again as far as Aesthetics go this thing is one-of-a-kind and it really looks sharp.... For the money you could probably pick up any number of new or second-hand big company snare drums that would have a lot better workmanship...... Or maybe mine was just a one-off and all the other ones are fine... I don't know I can only say what I experienced.....
I didn't see a mic under the snare? Would be nice to hear more of the snare wires as the dominant sound is the top/ring especially with brushes and buzzing. This isn't a rag on the video, just was a suggestion. This, like all these videos are brilliant.
Thanks for watching! We minimize the use of close mics in order to preserve the most acoustically transparent representation of the drum sound. The SM57 on the batter used sparingly. We feel that the presence of the snare wires is represented as we've intended with these videos. -Ben
Want. Killing and gorgeous
Oh my gadd... I want🧐
That can be arranged!
Beautiful drum... both in sound and look.... I don't have a cooper drum......hmmmmmm :-)
That can be changed 😉
Sounds amazing! Where can we buy this snare, And at what cost? Is there any supplyers, or is it only available at drumCo? Thank you guys!
We’ve been told that this particular drum is available. Price is $699. Best bet is to contact Jordan at Offbeat Drum Co. directly through his website or social channels. Cheers!
@@SoundsLikeADrum awesome! thx!
Sorry I just saw this comment. You can find my drums directly from OBDCo. through my website (www.offbeatdrumco.com) or via Reverb.com. You can also find them at Fork's Drum Closet in Nashville, TN. I believe Fork's also has their available inventory posted on Reverb.com as well! Hope that helps, glad you like the drums!
In contrast to the Tama Ronald Bruner Jr Signature snare with the 1 mm steel shell that has a 6 ply Black Walnut shell tucked under the rolled bearing edges this snare is a wood shell top and bottom bridged by a copper shell while the former is simply a metal drum with a wood shell pressed against it. I’d like to hear a head to head comparison of a few of these hybrid drums. One has its edges interrupted or bridged with a different material while the other has its main shell material dampened by another shell material.
Comparison videos like what you've described are something we'd absolutely love to be able to devote the resources to producing but it's just not feasible right now. As you can imagine, there are a lot of logistics involved just when it comes to getting the appropriate drums not to mention production. At this point, we want to get Season 3 up and running with the support of our viewers and, if we receive enough support, we can move forward with our dreams of launching a comparison series unlike anything else out there. Please consider joining our Patreon to help make this possible. -Ben
Wonderful how long those wood edges will last? Are they thin? Are they replaceable? and better question! Could they be interchangeable? to let's say a 90 degree round edge?! Holy shit! That would be awesome!
No reason why they should last for the life of the drum. You could get them replaced if you needed to though. The system here isn’t really designed to make them interchangeable but that’s something that you could chat with Jordan at Offbeat Drums about. -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum that could be incredibly useful for a studio situation
Aside from a slip-up on the jig while cutting snare beds, I've never had to replace any of the re-rings, but there's no reason why it couldn't be done if necessary.
Swapping the bearing edges out on a drum is certainly an interesting idea. I'll have to think on that a bit.
Awesome look and sound!! QUESTION.... is there anything other than rivets holding the re-ring/bearing edge into the shell?
Thanks!
There is a rabbet on the re-rings and they are pressed into the copper. The rivets are there as a secondary mechanical fastener to make sure that the rings can't be removed even when the drum has no heads on it. The force from the heads is not being transmitted through the rivets, they would shear under that sort of loading. Hope that helps! Glad you like the drum!
It sounds awesome! Do you know the thickness of the copper shell? They don't say it in their website
You need to make a deep comparison video between aftermarket suspension Tom/floor tom mounts from companies that can give you some for free👍
We've got a whole slew of ideas for almost an entire season of a dedicated comparison series but we need more financial support to make that possible.
Now that’s a sexy sexy snare
Hey Cody, I have a question. What’s your experience with durability of black nickel hardware? Does it chip off? Also what about black chrome/whats the difference?
Purrrdy. But I don't need more things to divert house money to!
Keep looking at the tama snare in the background on the shelf. Bell brass?
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have you seen the DW snare that had brass, i think , bearing edges top and bottom , and the middle was a wooden shell ? interesting ?
I've actually got a DW Edge snare. WAY too thick for it to be comparable to something like this though. Nowhere near the dynamic range of the Offbeat Drum Co. drum. -Ben
Seems like the successor of black beauty has born. Sounds perfect for all my purposes. It's unfortunate that they don't ship to Europe. 😕
I can ship internationally but there are some added costs depending on the country. Import tariffs, value-added taxes, etc. I was in the process of trying to find a brokerage to help navigate some of those customs requirements for different markets but COVID-19 has temporarily slowed that search down. Hopefully soon though!
@@offbeatdrumcompany2568 Yeah taxes are a big chunk, at least here in Finland. But your products seem to be priced very reasonably, so even with taxes and shipping costs a snare would be a good buy.
Nice sounding drum. I am definitely breaking the 10th commandment.
Personal question: I see your left stick is choked almost to the end. How does it rebound being choked so far up? I also use traditional grip but I can't get much rebound and speed choked that far up. (I'm an old-style rudimental swing drummer, BTW)
Thanks for your videos. I really enjoy them.
I'm confused by your usage of "choked" regarding his stick. Do you mean to imply his grip is too tight?
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Very interesting snare, I'm not satisfied with my snare sound and would like to know ways of removing a massive amount of overtones, I'm not a fan of them ringing on into the next beat.
Side note: going "down in the bumps", produced a very "gimme all your lovin', ZZtop" vibe 🤘😎🤘
CYMBALS PLEEEAAAASE TALK ABOUT CYMBALS
All cymbal features will be available on our Patreon as a. new exclusive series. Essentially a cymbal version of Seasons One and Two of Sounds Like a Drum.
Does have a snare beds?
Which cymbals are those? I think I have seen them around, especially the hats, but I have never caught what brand they are and they sound really nice. Does anyone know?
Both the ride and the top hi hat cymbals were mods done by our good friend Jesse Simpson.
@@SoundsLikeADrum cool, thanks for the reply! They all sounded really nice.
I wonder, when will those rivets start buzzing? In three month?
There is always a potential for mechanical fasteners to come loose over time, but to my knowledge that has never been an issue on any of OBDCo. drums. Admittedly I can only point to the oldest examples as evidence but after several years I've never had any complaints.
where have you been these past few weeks?
Global pandemic has been a little rough on New York. Also, we finished up Season Two and need support to get Season Three off the ground.
Revers dw edge snare?
Metal on the outside and wood bearing edges
Similar in concept but still a bit apples : oranges. Completely different joining process between the edges and the shell, the wooden portion is just the edge/re-ring rather than a third of the shell as a whole. This behaves quite differently overall.
@@SoundsLikeADrum thanks it will de cool to play a reverse edge snare
the cruel irony of the beautiful finished snare drum, weather its wood or solid silver, is that they hide behind all the drums and cymbals, never to be seen by neither player or fan..... so sad is the irony.... and long the day... sigh.. whatever i still bought one... woot!!
give me all your drumming ......lol
Q drum co use wood bearing edges on their metal
kits!
Yep! This is a different approach.
Check out Craviotto Drums. They use ship bending techniques and machines to make their drums. Exquisite! Check them out!!
Absolutely! We’ve got three between the two of us as well as a few other steam bent snare drums. We’ve actually featured them previously.
No example of rim shot sound or cross-stick??
Rimshot sounds were demonstrated in the initial demo. Cross stick is part of the extra content we'll have on Patreon.
Sounds Like A Drum dang, you’re right. The rim shot was there. Love the sound of that snare.
I feel like that snare is begging to be tuned higher and wailed on Slipknot style
It sure does handle the high tunings quite well!
I think you meant to say wealth in that first sentence after the intro...dearth means a lack of options
Yep, caffeine getting the better of me again hahaha ☕️-Cody
Yet another BIG snare with a big snare drum sound. I know a lot of people like this...Not me; I find it kind of boring. Where are the smaller, and more unique, sized snare drums?? Piccolos, popcorns, in-betweens...Blind tests at all tunings, I would still guess a big 14" snare with at least a 6" depth.
Got a particular drum you'd like to hear? Hit up the builder and let them know that they should get in touch with us. The two modern snares we've featured, while they've been 8" and 6.5" deep, have been significantly different from anything remotely standard. We'll cover other drums as time goes by and more builders become interested. Thanks for watching!
That sucker sounds goooooood!
My bank account is developing a dislike of this channel.....
I think it is of Jewish decent
My bank account, NOT the snare
Sure sounds like Metallica :(
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It can not projects as good as seamless/cast metal shells. I would never buy something like this.
Betula Obscura My Gretsch “Bell Brass” snare is a BEAST. Not sure what metal it’s made of exactly .....more than likely a B8 - B10 Bronze. This is one SOLID snare. No pun intended.
Not sure I'd purchase a drum like this if I was looking for something that behaves like a cast metal snare. Different purpose. Also, the amount of projection from some seamless/cast metal drums isn't always what you're looking for. Options are a beautiful thing! Still, good to know what doesn't work for you though.
@@SoundsLikeADrum Riveted metal snare is like a bad joke. They should make riveted bells and violins as well...