Unresolved: The Techonomic Cold War With China

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024

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  • @maxwellaaron3291
    @maxwellaaron3291 5 років тому +15

    Generally speaking, all five guests here are terrific at critical thinking. Thanks for holding the debate.

    • @jekdndn2420
      @jekdndn2420 5 років тому +1

      Not the parag Khanna though....

    • @stevenlee9658
      @stevenlee9658 5 років тому

      You don't need critical thinking, you will think about whatever your Party master tells you.

    • @maxwellaaron3291
      @maxwellaaron3291 5 років тому

      @@stevenlee9658 And I thought critical thinking here on youtube means somebody being wise and polite enough to reason with another without arrogantly saying "you should blah blah... I don't know u at all but somehow I am sure you are brainwashed". Not being a party member, not living in mainland China, I am just saying the debate here is enjoyable and reasonable by and large. As someone who has no direct interest involved in these issues, I believe we are all grown-up enough to have one's own insight on the subject. That's just my definition of critical thinking, anyway, who am I to tell you otherwise? Btw, who are you to tell me otherwise?

    • @pahatpahat9566
      @pahatpahat9566 3 роки тому

      Critical thinking? without understanding basic facts and maths? No wonder the Governor of Oregon enacted a law to say High school graduates did not pass reading, maths and science subjects?? let's hope it becomes a national-wide practice so we can see how competitive they can be.

  • @vanya5566
    @vanya5566 5 років тому +25

    I have read the book written by Parag Khanna, Really really Genius from the Future!!! I would like to say if most of us could be more open mind and not that conservative in term of political attitude, Probably the world would be more closer by linking through High-speed railways, Highways, Planes. Let's become a World citizen.

    • @rujiahao4284
      @rujiahao4284 5 років тому

      the book looks more like propogada to me.

    • @thekaiser4333
      @thekaiser4333 5 років тому +1

      China is welcome in Europe.

  • @youngz13o
    @youngz13o 5 років тому +25

    The US wanted to build bridges in Afghanistan? Are you kidding me? After what you did to thatcountry why would that country cooperate with you and trust you to bring prosperity. Sick joke Susan

    • @RonzigtheWizard
      @RonzigtheWizard 4 роки тому +2

      America is jealous because like their parent country Britain the only way they know how to speak with other countries is with guns. Whenever they resort to diplomacy all they know how to deal with others is to offer to drive them into massive debt while they steal all their assets. The reason that China is able to succeed so marvelously with their belt and road initiative is there is nobody else not America, Canada, Britain, Germany or France that will help them build their infrastructure without insane requirements that would sell their sovereignty but China. If America was willing to pay for the wealth in the countries they want instead of simply removing elected governments and installing puppet dictators America would have been able to do what China is doing decades ago. But NO, America CHOOSES TO DESTROY ANY NATION THAT DOESN'T WANT TO TURN OVER THEIR COUNTRIES WITHOUT PAYMENT. If they say no, America bombs them into the stone age like they did with Libya.

  • @ipfreak
    @ipfreak 5 років тому +12

    some chinese companies have "996" schedule because they got rewards for that. huawei is employee owned and employees shared the profits, that drive employees working hard.

    • @meganh9460
      @meganh9460 5 років тому

      Not ''owned'' like we would say in other countries. If an employee left he would have to sell it back to huawei. They can't sell it either. They call it ghost stock.

    • @worwitsatienras3853
      @worwitsatienras3853 5 років тому

      @@meganh9460 that better than any company.

  • @thekaiser4333
    @thekaiser4333 5 років тому +13

    I love China!

  • @BKLau70
    @BKLau70 5 років тому +14

    I love how the supremacy attitude still thinks that those they look down upon will stay down. A simple reason why American are often shocked beyond belief on something that has been on going for so long.
    US government doesn't control Silicon Valley?

    • @Shadowsuit
      @Shadowsuit 3 роки тому

      Yes exactly, us has been caught spying all over Europe. Siemens, Renault, Alstom... The CEO of most biggest groups. But if China does it, bouhhhhh. Bad. Resulting in a level of hipocrisy unseen before

    • @whaikuratuhaka7029
      @whaikuratuhaka7029 2 роки тому +1

      The US have just realised the understanding of a
      Inferiority complex, the condition of being lower in status or quality than another or others,

  • @kwongwong6387
    @kwongwong6387 5 років тому +28

    In my opinion Mr.Khanna is an exceptional speaker with objective and in-depth view in the topic for discussion.

    • @HTeo-og1lg
      @HTeo-og1lg 5 років тому

      Search thru UA-cam all his participation in discussion on China first before you conclude that he is objective. Like most Americans of Indian ethnicity, he is a closet antichina, but moderated by the need to appear sophisticated and nuanced in his views due to the necessity to appear profound and objective as his career as a non-fiction geopolitical writer in the learned tradition is obliged to in order to be respectable.

    • @wajhieimtiyaz
      @wajhieimtiyaz 4 роки тому +1

      @@HTeo-og1lg He's anti China?

  • @konghjk
    @konghjk 5 років тому +6

    I was doing my homework while I click in this video, and now I am going to be in trouble tomorrow.

    • @jasminew795
      @jasminew795 5 років тому

      Hong Ho Are you ok then?

  • @zeliang1812
    @zeliang1812 5 років тому +29

    看来美国人还真的有文化自信和道路自信的问题了,呵呵,真有趣

    • @tanhaoze
      @tanhaoze 5 років тому +6

      但是不得不说美国人警惕性、警醒性都非常高,他们的精英眼界开阔、高瞻远瞩,已经要防范于未然了,可怕的对手和值得敬佩的对手

    • @rafikingkong
      @rafikingkong 5 років тому +1

      @@tanhaoze 宁和聪明人吵架,不和傻瓜商量。

    • @ziyuchen3112
      @ziyuchen3112 5 років тому

      @麦腾 用不着谦卑吧 能够客观地认识对方的优势和不足并以之为鉴其实就够了

    • @user-mi9ws5yr3o
      @user-mi9ws5yr3o 5 років тому +1

      Ze Liang 他们一直在自信的顶点 我们只是建立更好自己 不管别人 与其和他们争论不如自己强大

    • @md-uu2ng
      @md-uu2ng 5 років тому

      @@user-dv3xg1iw1t 西方自近代以来搞舆论操纵百多年了,在这方面土共再有数十年功力也追不上。美国的情况是利益群体太多,有时候都不知道push谁的agenda,如@麦腾 所说先做好自己是要紧的。普通人也没必要担心外宣,“天下何人不通共”并不是一句笑谈。有些人意识形态挂帅没学过多少政治哲学基础却侈谈政体优劣,彷佛非黑即白,殊不知世界整个运行机制本就是政商勾连,两边下注。就拿这个辩论节目请的Susan Thornton a.k.a. 董云裳 来说说好了,她的主要荣誉有一项就是耶鲁法学院蔡中曾中国中心Paul Tsai China Center的Senior Fellow,基本上这个就是表彰其为美中关系所做的贡献。蔡崇信捐了三千万美刀给耶鲁大学法学院得以其父名字命名这个中国中心,蔡崇信何许人也,应该听说过“马云背后的男人”吧。
      政商圈里关系错综复杂有如小城市里姻亲总能攀附得上,这些事情老百姓就不要太在意了。比如这个视频,不同人可能有不同解读:
      ua-cam.com/video/tLVFKzzLb80/v-deo.html

  • @NangongReng1973
    @NangongReng1973 5 років тому +1

    The lady in green says no one will take the train from Moscow and Beijing.You forget Chinese likes to travel ...A LOT. And there are 1.4 billion of them plus 100 plus million Russians.

  • @jackchou1425
    @jackchou1425 5 років тому +62

    consider there’s India in Asia too, the future really seems to shift to Asia

    • @samreenfatima2551
      @samreenfatima2551 5 років тому +2

      @Jack Lee Exactly 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @liujiangogogo
      @liujiangogogo 5 років тому +4

      India is overrated, the whole glory belongs to East Asia

    • @liujiangogogo
      @liujiangogogo 5 років тому +2

      @@tsheringchoden8165 , no, Buddha was Nepali, Buddhism was destroyed in India, Hindu was a backward religion, which divides people with ridiculous superstitions.

    • @daniellxia
      @daniellxia 5 років тому +1

      If you really believe all races are equal, that would be an obvious conclusion. Put China and India alone the population adds up to 2.5B, which is 1/3 of world's population, no mention most of the most populated countries are in Asia. Asia becomes the center of the world is a reasonable result.

    • @skychaos87
      @skychaos87 5 років тому

      The future has to be in Asia. The western domination is a 200 years of aberration if you compare it to the back drop of the past 2000 years. China and India have always been the two largest economy in the world for the 1800 of the past 2000 years. Its only when technology and colonialism era took off that China and India fell behind. So its not that the west was exceptional, its China, India and Asia as a whole that was underperforming. But if you look at the top universities in the world, most of the PHD candidates are largely Asians, even in America the top CEOs are mostly Indians. China and India have a long history of civilizations, their people are not weak or stupid but actually very hardworking and smart. So comes today's era where technology are easily spread and the playing field gets even, its no magic that China and India are coming back for they have the natural demographical and geographical advantages. The western domination like i said, is an aberration. There's no good outcome having 15% of the world's population dominating the remaining 85%, its both unequal and undemocratic.

  • @kwongwong6387
    @kwongwong6387 5 років тому +11

    Defense budget in China in 20118 is 175 billion (US) whereas USA is 700 billion in 2018. How many times?

    • @warhammer8403
      @warhammer8403 5 років тому +1

      CHINA SPENDS 220 BILLION FOR DEFENCE . CHINA SPENDS MORE IN INFRASTRUCTURE THAN IN DEFENCE

  • @woonliangsoh
    @woonliangsoh 5 років тому +1

    Disturbing to hear that the debater thinks they know everything because it is a market based system. Remember 2008 financial crisis. No system is by itself superior, it is dependent on its participants

  • @maninfull1159
    @maninfull1159 5 років тому +3

    Actually, every city in China wants to be a Silicon Valley. Intense competitions among the cities will create more innovations and that is the beauty of it.

  • @daniel-zh4qc
    @daniel-zh4qc 5 років тому +4

    Keep underestimating the United states ... Really shows how smart you are...

    • @whaikuratuhaka7029
      @whaikuratuhaka7029 2 роки тому

      The US have a inferiority complex,a condition of being in a lower status or quality than another or others

  • @shakesbeer00
    @shakesbeer00 3 роки тому

    Just started to watch this. Surprised and delighted to see Ms. Susan Ashton Thornton as a guest here. Have watched a couple of hers elsewhere. She is a very rational lady. Will continue watching.

  • @f1racer908
    @f1racer908 5 років тому +1

    Susan's view on the next Silicon Valley in China is very astute with clarity, deep, and insightful. Being a member of the vast American Silicon Valley ecosystem, I would agree that China should not be discounted, and that US Silicon Valley will no longer have the monopoly on every groundbreaking innovation . What does work against China is their political system, both working and living conditions. Top talents are smart, and they will not risk long term stock, on short term gains. I think China's pursuit will be hollow in form only for economic advancement, where true innovation is driven by quite a different set of criteria. But make no mistakes, there will be stiff competition from China.

  • @freemanxiao4622
    @freemanxiao4622 5 років тому +3

    It's a really video about China which is most rational, logical and objective.

  • @freelunchforchildren4040
    @freelunchforchildren4040 5 років тому +40

    Go China . . .

    • @rujiahao4284
      @rujiahao4284 5 років тому +1

      good luck with that.

    • @thekaiser4333
      @thekaiser4333 5 років тому

      @@rujiahao4284 - We don't need luck. So far working with the Chinese works beautifully, very much unlike trying to work with the USA.
      The Americans are not regarded as a reliable partner anymore.

    • @jingli7206
      @jingli7206 5 років тому +1

      welcome

    • @ArmyRangerSJ
      @ArmyRangerSJ 5 років тому +2

      @@thekaiser4333 Not reallllly. Foreigners get screwed working in and with China. It's only mega corporations that don't get screwed by them. Oh wait. Have you new tech you spent billions developing get stolen by a Foreign Chinese who travels to China with it? Or your company is forced to share half of it if you work in China? Wow.

    • @ArmyRangerSJ
      @ArmyRangerSJ 5 років тому

      10:10 So he means ANY Android owner? And Samsung produces more phones than China's Huawei.

  • @ruralikusurbanikus3327
    @ruralikusurbanikus3327 3 роки тому

    Great debate,we need more of this in public arena.

  • @pardeeptandon6730
    @pardeeptandon6730 5 років тому +3

    Susan’s knowledge on China is superficial. Visit any top American STEM university the Chinese students beet their American class mates hands down.

  • @windps1410
    @windps1410 5 років тому

    Belt and Road Initiatives are not trillion dollar blunder: 1. Influence of filling up American vacancy to the rest of the world. 2. Improve the world trade. 3. Selling off the Chinese infrastructure and related technologies. 4. Selling off the cement and steel for these new ports, railways, and water dams. 5. Popularize the Chinese yuan instead of US dollars. 6. Teaming up with both related countries and US allies for sharing off the future globalization. Therefore, we American should be joining into and being a part of this great international project. Give a peace a chance. Can't beat them, Join them!

  • @youngdavid8068
    @youngdavid8068 5 років тому +13

    As a Chinese, I find a common problem in democracies: if you want to say something that is "politically correct", just say it and you need not take into consideration whethet it's true. That lady said "the government tell universities what to teach and what not to"- obviously, she didn't come to China's university. When I studied in a university in Shandong, I made a presentation on 1989 Tiananmen Movement in class along with my teamates. Even political issues can be freely discussed in Chinese universities, let alone those scientific and technological ones. However, to say "China is not free" is politically correct in America. Although you have No idea with the truth, you can just make up your stories and there will be plenties of people pushing the "like" button.

    • @JohnNy-ni9np
      @JohnNy-ni9np 5 років тому

      Young David, it's interesting to hear that tou are freely to discuss Tiananmen square while all the facts about the incident has been blocks in China. Can you share what did you actually discuss back then ? In the other word, what do you think about Tiananmen sq ?

    • @youngdavid8068
      @youngdavid8068 5 років тому +2

      @@JohnNy-ni9np Our 10-minute presentation was not very successful... We displayed some photographs, sketched out the process of the event, but failed to explicitly express our subjective opinions. Now I think that's because we didn't conceive an explicit opinion in our mind at that time. We had only one week to prepare for the presentation, during which time we also had to do other coursework and play LOL and appoint girls.
      We did the presentation on a Politics Class. Every university in China set this course for undergraduates, the goal of which is to introduce Marxism, Mao's Thoughts, Deng's Theory and CCP's idea on governance. The function of this course is similar to the education of democracy and election in democratic countries. So we call it "brainwashing course". All students play smart phone on that course, because it's not only boring but useless. Our school knows this embarrassing situation very much. Hence they decide to yield 45 minutes of the class for a presentation on social issues, the timespan long enough for 3 groups to display. After a semester, all students have a chance to present. Pity was that many groups didn't cherish this chance. They would rather spend time on video games and just put it off. However, our group decided to bring something really impressive when it came to our turn. So we chose this topic. Before we chose it, we told to our teacher specially. Because we did not want to act like we purposedly embarrassed our "brainwashing course" teacher, in a case without precedent communication. Our teacher heared our idea and said OK. Then we got on to work.
      Three exact decades passed by after the event. But even today when we think of the passion towards good future, the deep love for their country, and the courage to devote themselves of those students on the square, we still feel encouraging. They showed the sensitive brilliance that would not decay with timing.
      However, from the perspective of sense, we could draw a totally opposite conclusion. After 4 decades of the booming in economy, science, livelihood, education and all other aspects, it's hard for current Chinese people to agree with ideas of those students. When we reflect that event, we often ask ourselves a question: were the Movement successful, would the afterward 30-year economic miracle happen?
      Suviet adopted the idea of democracy and muti-party overnight, as western world wished; soon it collapsed overnight - still as western world wished. Few years ago, U.S used its propaganda machine to incite Arab Spring, promising that democracy will bring them all they anticipated. Now Arab people can critise their government everyday. However, the society went far backwards. Millions people died, meanwhile tens of millions people became refugees. Arab Spring is similar to Tiananmen Movement in by many means. Fortunately, we chose a different path 30 years ago.
      It's true that some democracies run very well, like Scandinavian democracies. But we are still confident to say that our achievements in the past 3 decades outweighed achievements of all best democracies combined. In history, no democracy could lifted 90% of its people out of poverry and turned a third of their people to middle class in 30 years. Everyone in China can see those changes. Therefore, it should not be difficult to understand that most people in China agree they went to the right direction on the turning point in 1989.
      Altered to right direction, however, through a most awful method. The government finished the Movement by tank and guns. Many people died, including young and athletic students. The event ended with tragedy. Who should take this responsibility? Firstly, it should be government. They lacked the wisdom to end the event with peaceful manners. Secondly, it should be those inciters among students and workers. They only know how to turn out public sentiment, acting like they themselves could sacrificed for the country at any time and lead the event to a tragedic direction from the beginning to end, not to a reasonable one. Ironicly, when the Movement failed, they stopped their tears and fled overseas at first time.
      Another my point may interest you. If I could choose to stop the tanks and let China go a democratic and multiparty way like Suviet Union, will I make This choice? - Of course not. The weight of history outweigh that of any other issues, including blood of individuals. We mourned died people with grievities, but sometime we must remember what is most important.

    • @JohnNy-ni9np
      @JohnNy-ni9np 5 років тому

      @@youngdavid8068 , thanks for sharing your perspective on the issue. I have some questions for you. Back to your political class, could you just present your topic without asking permission from your teacher ? after all it is your intrinsic right as a human being to present your own idea without fear of any persecution ? Does your teacher will be in trouble with authority if his student present the topic with different view than the ccp allowed ?
      Your case seems to fit exactly with the opinion of the lady in the video - in China teacher does not choose what they teach -
      Also your opinion on "no other democracy country can lift its people out of poverty within 30 years " seems come straight out of ccp propaganda without any fact check.
      Let's have a quick look at history. From 1990 to 2010, China gdp per capita increase from 450 usd to 4500, a 10 folds within 20 years. Now look at Taiwan, from 1970 to 1990, gdp per capita is from 400 usd to 9000, a 22 folds within 20 years. Same as South Korea, from 1960 to 1980, the figure is from 100 to 1900, a 19 folds within 20 years. Clearly a democracy is superior in economic performance than a communist one.
      Again the lady in video is right - in China student is not allowed to learn what they want to learn.

    • @youngdavid8068
      @youngdavid8068 5 років тому +5

      @@JohnNy-ni9np It's been a long-standing misunderstanding on China that people can't say "wrong words". I don't know whether some people still believe that people saying "wrong words" could "disappear".
      In fact, you can say anything in daily life so long as you are polite. You criticise the leadership, the Party, or other "wrong wordsI- it's all okay. I remembered when I was a kid, there was an old man in my neighborhood who often roared to abuse CCP in the early morning (with F words and in a short sentence). He impressed me because one morning I was waken up by his roaring and his one-sentence-of-f-words style was very funny. Nothing happened to him. A common joke on this kind of guy is that "If Culture revolution happens again, you are done". But everyone knows that history will not go backwards.
      As for classes, let me make a comparison - are teachers in American schools allowed to attack democracy or multi-party system or elections in class? The answer should be yes. However, it may not be encouraged. The case in Chinese school is similar. Some points are not encouraed, but nothing (except for rude things) is not allowed. My politics teacher in junior high was a rebellious youth. He often told political jokes in class (China's political jokes often tease CCP and current political system), which always incurred laughter of whole class. Although politics class should be about Marxism-like theory.
      You asked me a wierd question about teacher's authority. Perhaps you think China's schools are like schools in 1984, and teachers are all appointed to preach. By the way, 1984 is not banned in China. I bought a bilingual edtion last year autumn in a Xinhua Bookstore in Shandong. Everytime I see some western propaganda claim that Orwellian books are banned in China, I feel very confused.
      There's no problems in speech freedom in daily life. Problem is that, If you write a passage to attack the current political system or CCP or leaders, no papers or tv channels will publish it. All tv stations are state-run. If you attack CCP on the Internet, there's a chance that your comment be deleted. If you attack leaders, the chance is almost 100%. Besides, China doesn't have parade. On the other hand, China's speech environment also has some merits. Chinese media never make up any stuff in order to abuse other countries. When my relatives or classmates went aboard, they didn't feel what they saw was not in accord with what they heard domesticly.
      It's true that politics classes don't interest most students. But It only accounts for 16 credits of all the 150-170 credits in the university (vary from universities), and 100 scores of all the 1060 scores(including maths, literature, English, chemistry, physics, history, geography, biology, politics, IT, PE) in junior high (vary from cities). As for Arts senior students, it accounts for 100 score of all the 760 scores in their Gaokao. As for Science students, it accounts for 0 scores. To say sometimes students learn a boring lesson is true. But to say teachers can't teach what they like to teach is too far from the point.

    • @chengyuzhang3397
      @chengyuzhang3397 5 років тому +1

      John Ny Mate, Taiwan and South Korea were not even the so called democracy back to 60 to early 90s...... Taiwan were a military authoritarian government which even imposed curfew for decades. South Korea was basically the same if not even worse since they had massacres during early 80s that militaries killed hundreds of people......

  • @BKLau70
    @BKLau70 5 років тому +1

    Parag is impressive in his knowledge and deeper understanding.

  • @TheLeaderr
    @TheLeaderr 5 років тому +12

    That Susan character is a real piece of work...

    • @pahatpahat9566
      @pahatpahat9566 3 роки тому

      She can't even count! 50 Trillions for BRI?

  • @jingli7206
    @jingli7206 5 років тому +2

    50年代的时候,苏联专家建议我市地委将主干道建为双向四车道,当时地委就恼火了,全市的车放在马路上还摆不满一个车道,建那么宽干什么?结果这条路自90年代初开始,到现在堵了30年了。00年代的时候,市委主政修另外一个方向的主干道,上马就是双向五车道,半封闭快速路,建的时候是典型的‘ways leading to nowhere’一堆人说是面子工程疯狂地喷,一堆人因为基建拆迁问题四处抹黑政府。现在,大家下班高峰期在五车道上堵得发慌的时候,才会领悟一个道理‘真香’!

    • @stevenlee9658
      @stevenlee9658 5 років тому

      因为贵市蠢货太多,根本不懂市政规化,什么资源都集中在市中心就是双向十车道都不够,当然毕竟集权独裁国家一把手说了算,怎么能不集中?

    • @stevenlee9658
      @stevenlee9658 5 років тому

      你苏联老大哥搞了大集中搞了几十年,当然比土匪出身的土八路有经验,不过最后也没逃出灭亡的命运。

  • @jasminew795
    @jasminew795 5 років тому +24

    The Yale lady must learnt China only from books.

    • @leesophie2678
      @leesophie2678 5 років тому

      Which were published hmmm...

    • @stevenlee9658
      @stevenlee9658 5 років тому

      You must only learn China from ccp's mouthpieces like People's Daily, CCTV and Xinhua.
      Obviously you drank too much of the Kool-aid.

    • @jasminew795
      @jasminew795 5 років тому

      steven lee Sorry you are wrong. I’ve been working in China for years. And I’ ve got a master degree at political science faculty in France. I know what I’m talking about. And you, the kool-aide? What’s the hell are you talking about?

    • @michaelchen4879
      @michaelchen4879 5 років тому

      Obviously, steven lee must be an uneducated idiot!

    • @pahatpahat9566
      @pahatpahat9566 3 роки тому

      that Bremner guy is a sales speaker!

  • @kwongwong6387
    @kwongwong6387 5 років тому +1

    Why pay much emphasis who will win? Win win situation is best for both countries and the rest of the world.

  • @KAKA-22-1
    @KAKA-22-1 5 років тому +4

    the experts just did the study at home ........ignorance

  • @aznknight22
    @aznknight22 5 років тому +2

    Brumer is just too damn insightful! Parag is a raising star.

    • @BlessAllKC
      @BlessAllKC 5 років тому

      May I correct one error in your statement :
      It should be "rising star." ( the 2nd last word, not "raising." ) A rising star is someone who is becoming more important, recognized or well known for his positive qualities & efforts.
      "Parag is a raising star " is wrong in sentence structure & it doesn't express what you truly mean. You can say, "Parag is raised to be a star." ( = Parag's parents have brought him up to be a star. ) To "raise a child" is to look after the child & help him grow. ( = To bring up a child. )
      As shown above, "rise" & "raise" have different meanings depending on the usage in each case. Please understand that my only intention is to help clarify the intended meaning in your 2nd sentence, & that you won't take my efforts as an offence. Thank you very much for your comment.

  • @kindface
    @kindface 3 роки тому +1

    Everytime I see university professors and academicians missing the bigger picture of how the real world works, I shudder to think these are the people that grad and post-grad students are supposed to learn from. If I were the administrator of a top college, I would require all my teaching staff to at least work part-time and concurrently in some Top 500 company.

  • @kwongwong6387
    @kwongwong6387 5 років тому +1

    Please update your knowledge on education in China

    • @rujiahao4284
      @rujiahao4284 5 років тому

      叫妳媽逼春啊叫?回家找你媽叫春!

  • @HTeo-og1lg
    @HTeo-og1lg 5 років тому

    Why the China expert, Gordon Chang, not on the panel? He is the one that most of us wants to hear from. He is the only Genius that knows the truth.

  • @yulwu6758
    @yulwu6758 5 років тому +2

    I respected the Yale lady's stance and argument on the first and third topic discussed. But the way she responded the second one and her arguments seem not only weak, but rude and arrogant.

  • @kwongwong6387
    @kwongwong6387 5 років тому

    Only time can tell whether BRI is beneficial to all those countries involved in this development.

  • @The667251
    @The667251 3 роки тому +1

    "theft"? Bullying! The usual "my way or no way", "my way is innovation, your way must be through 'theft'".

  • @user-zk4dq9vt9d
    @user-zk4dq9vt9d 5 років тому +1

    The answer to another question is:
    China will believe the US Navy as the US believes the Chinese Navy......

  • @walid7885
    @walid7885 5 років тому +5

    A trade war in appearance is not good for anyone. Except, in this case, it is good for China.
    China is way much less sophisticated in cost management, efficiency and quality control. They got away with this because labour and fixed were cheap. So they had a huge advantage in pricing.
    With tariffs, the pricing advantage is gone or greatly diminished. This will force China to explore cost-cutting in a different way to stay competitive. They will modernize, they will seek more efficiency and diversification of portfolios. They will start stealing markets from the US if they can't sell to the US.
    In 5-10 years, the Dragon would awake and all that is thanks to the US efforts to accidentally force a change of the modus operand that would have taken maybe 100 years to happen.
    Same thing with Russia. Putin was trying to push for agricultural reform with no luck for a decade. Sanctions came, and now Russia is competing in agri-products with the EU instead of being a consumer.
    I don't get what the US is doing. It's as if they never heard about stress-adaptation concepts.

    • @Aro2220
      @Aro2220 5 років тому +1

      China is turning more and more authoritarian. They're also going hardcore into technology to support such a system (ai). That is NOT the kind of system you would WANT to design for yourself... a system of pure authoritarianism where advanced AI's are monitoring absolutely EVERYTHING about you at any given time and if your heart beats one beat too many during the national anthem your self driving car brings you to room 101 instead of work that day for some AI discovered psychological trauma to re adjust your thought patterns.
      Like the extent of the terror that this represents is unbelievable. All because Chinese want to rule the world.
      America should have backed out of everything in 1991 and shut its borders and told the rest of the world they're none of its business -- just like George Washington's farewell address advised them of.
      But the world is now all tangled up in shit. That authoritarian government of China has to be authoritarian otherwise the Chinese state would splinter. There are many powerful figures in China who would take power if they could. If the government cannot hold them down then they will all break apart.
      The natural state of things is a nation for every family in the world. Government is a response to authoritarians that subvert and dominate huge swaths of people with threat of death and torture and then takes their production and their bodies and uses them to kill those that they do not already control.
      And individual families would all fall against that so a government of the people must bring the militia to bear. And since 21st century warfare is not like 18th century warfare in the slightest, what that 'militia' looks like is something unrecognizable. It's a drone army... and how the hell do all the people control something that is run by a singular AI?
      I suppose the only solution is as Elon Musk said... we must merge with the machine. Embrace AI and use it to augment your humanity.
      And you better get good at it... because it seems like there are going to be some evil AI controlled robot humans from China that will come to slaughter us if we are not extremely capable.
      China is a perfect place for Skynet to start. If it hasn't already...

  • @Birdylockso
    @Birdylockso 3 роки тому

    A few years later, things have gotten way worse...

  • @thejordanianphilosopher6666
    @thejordanianphilosopher6666 3 роки тому +1

    Parag Khanna is amazing.

  • @bg24955
    @bg24955 5 років тому

    Where is Gordon Chang? He gave quick and broad criticism

  • @winstonsheng1936
    @winstonsheng1936 5 років тому

    The Nations that worry about their debt ratio, in relation to Belt & Road initiatives, for they have been able to renegotiate these terms etc to their own economic growth,

  • @kwongwong6387
    @kwongwong6387 5 років тому

    On the contrary,the current Chinese 2 national sessions had a different view in BRI. in which China mentioned positive aspects.

  • @忽悠扑火的
    @忽悠扑火的 5 років тому

    We have so much prosperous countries here now in Asia.

  • @guens01
    @guens01 5 років тому +1

    That Susan lady is spewing a lot of ignorance. I feel sorry for her students. 👎👎👎👎👎

  • @dorawang5451
    @dorawang5451 5 років тому +2

    Huang must never go to LA and see how many people live on the street.

    • @pcstar123
      @pcstar123 5 років тому

      He has a political agenda, either that cult or from the 89'

    • @kuanged
      @kuanged 5 років тому

      @@pcstar123 yeah he works for MIT. He cannot support China without losing his job.

    • @kuanged
      @kuanged 5 років тому +1

      @kimi the average Chinese in the US makes more money and lives longer. Imagine what will happen when China surpasses the US in military, economy, and technology. That 7x multiplier will go the other way.

    • @reehji
      @reehji 4 роки тому

      TroPICAll that’s not how the economy works idiot

  • @kwongwong6387
    @kwongwong6387 5 років тому

    Infra structure is a long term investment for a country.

  • @kwongwong6387
    @kwongwong6387 5 років тому +2

    BRI is intended for "a community of shared future for mankind" . Actually , it is the traditional Confucius principle. The Chinese has been educated by this principle together with other principles such as benevolence, righteousness, politeness, and knowledge.

  • @stng4857
    @stng4857 5 років тому

    The MIT person is very naive to ask whether the shipping road has been threatened before. Would he wait for things to flare up before he takes preventive actions to protect the sea routes that is so vital. Just take a look at Singapore to see how much it has been spending in Defence to counter self perceived threats.

  • @kwongwong6387
    @kwongwong6387 5 років тому

    China has 919 plane and it is in the market. Please update your current news.

  • @expand9487
    @expand9487 3 роки тому

    what would happen if one countries president slaps another president

  • @winstonsheng1936
    @winstonsheng1936 5 років тому

    China has now tested their own Aeroplanes!

  • @pcstar123
    @pcstar123 5 років тому +4

    Belt and Road is simply an extension of the Chinese experiences in economic development, to get rich one needs to built the road first, and that is how the backward places in China were developed! The same logic can be applied to the Belt and Road countries! Huang's logic is laughable!

  • @orangutan324
    @orangutan324 5 років тому

    Trump says: No money for you, I need my walls! Very urgent!

  • @rickyeng56
    @rickyeng56 4 роки тому

    Susan is against with all the rest... she may be right, but time will tell.

  • @HTeo-og1lg
    @HTeo-og1lg 5 років тому

    A debate such as this can serve productive purposes or reinforce toxic hubris and prejudice. The latter, unfortunately, won in this case. American exceptionalism and hegemonic instinct of the incumbent were roundly reinforced.......until no longer, which is the incessant evolution of human and non-human history. All this is normal, but what is sad is that sometimes, on the way, unspeakable human tragedy occurs when so called enlightened civilised people thinks that they have to commit atrocious acts like wars to stop natural evolutionary changes.

  • @kwongwong6387
    @kwongwong6387 5 років тому

    In the area of science and technology all countries in the world should collaborate to one another with a view to benefiting a community of shared future of mankind rather than focusing on competition in a zero sum attitude.

    • @ziyuchen3112
      @ziyuchen3112 5 років тому

      They should but they probably won't, at least not in the near future, for various political reasons.

  • @youngz13o
    @youngz13o 5 років тому +1

    War war war, thats all americans understand. Even their ideologies and trade policies needs some aspect of it in there. Why always think on such a shallow level? Its not conducive thinking that way to approach anyone. When on your mind is always these words, Enemies, threats, surveillance, communism, freedoms... come on people

  • @utubetruthteller
    @utubetruthteller 5 років тому +2

    Decolonization still not complete but with the demise of USA politically economically and military that Decolonization process will be complete.

    • @htin08
      @htin08 5 років тому

      True.
      It will take another 100 years to fully heal the world from affects of colonisation.

    • @MRCKify
      @MRCKify 5 років тому

      I don't think you'll be happy until you take a whiz on McArthur's grave.

  • @petagonkyi
    @petagonkyi 5 років тому +1

    Both China and India accuses West of colonialism but both of them are actively practising colonialism swallowing small countries around it today.

  • @neerudu1
    @neerudu1 3 роки тому +1

    Mr.kanna is on Chinese payroll

  • @bigchunk1
    @bigchunk1 5 років тому

    Why the heck is it 4v1?

  • @pahatpahat9566
    @pahatpahat9566 5 років тому

    I doubt she ever understand the term "logistics" notwithstanding that US used to be good at this and is slowly loosing its grip on this sector. If US is so advanced: why are you so afraid of China 2030 plan?

  • @orangutan324
    @orangutan324 5 років тому

    Comes to technology, does any country not stealing?

  • @DejeRobi
    @DejeRobi 5 років тому

    Technomic Cold War with China will help both countries. Think about the 60s in the US. The space race with Russia. Necessity is the mother of invention.

  • @ujdurma7
    @ujdurma7 5 років тому +2

    All in all, very little intelligence in this well rehearsed monologues.

  • @jflgaray
    @jflgaray 5 років тому

    surpass by using money to buy others innovation? or not buy, just take it.

  • @spoonapple5698
    @spoonapple5698 3 роки тому

    53:48 Yinhe incident en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinhe_incident

  • @debcleto828
    @debcleto828 5 років тому

    Westerns decided to make then world flat, and now the world belongs to Asia! Congrats!

  • @yx2333
    @yx2333 5 років тому

    I've in person attended one Yasheng's presentation, speaking in Chinese. He performed much better than in this debate... He seems to be a little bit nervous here.

    • @Sam26412
      @Sam26412 5 років тому +1

      In 5 year Americans will be stealing technology from China, if we are not already doing it. In the case of 5g, we are using state power to try to kill a Chinese company Huawei. We do it because their 5g technology is way better than ours. Huawei has a 5g ready phone on the market. Apple is developing a 5g phone in the lab.

  • @Silentbucket
    @Silentbucket 5 років тому +4

    Susan Thornton she is full of it! lol

  • @joshbrackelsberg9626
    @joshbrackelsberg9626 5 років тому

    Everyone criticized trump but he was the first presidential candidate to even address any of these issues.
    I thought the Yale lady made some good common sense arguments.
    We may have the world's reserve currency and force trade through our oil trade as well. But China's no longer dependent on that. Their currency can replace ours and if their trade and military keeps growing they can bypass our oil trade networks as well in areas.
    You can't lump China in with the rest of the world in these two regards.

  • @kwongwong6387
    @kwongwong6387 5 років тому

    ThIs platform is for meaningful discussion and not for attacking other people or countries, particularly using foul language. You have to listen other people's opinion , otherwise you are merely an echo-chamber. Highlighted ,please note.

  • @ggpz8975
    @ggpz8975 5 років тому

    the guy from mit is like I don’t give a shit 😂

  • @davout5775
    @davout5775 4 роки тому

    USA is currently a leader in AI and in Auantum computing but it is losing in 5G and telecommunications as a whole. Yet I believe there is an alternative. It is called Starlink and it can work just as good if not far better. It is in Space and therefore it can actually be planted anywhere in the world with ease. I think if USA help SpaceX with that project as they are doing with NASA it can really change everything.

  • @PMPEducator
    @PMPEducator 5 років тому +7

    The lady from yale is a fox news person :)))) now you know the SAT scam at top universities ...

  • @soshelp4085
    @soshelp4085 5 років тому +1

    哈哈哈哈,人想谈论大国家,那背后需要一个25h工作的团队。

  • @MerakiRandyChriz
    @MerakiRandyChriz 3 роки тому

    9:19

  • @SpiritsBB
    @SpiritsBB 5 років тому +7

    The guy in the very left came in with too much agenda. Too much chip on his shoulder. Meanwhile, everyone else is simply trying to discuss the topic.

    • @metrolights891
      @metrolights891 5 років тому

      @Y Liu Gordon is smart, I respect him (don't always agree with him), but I respect him. Just like Ian.

    • @metrolights891
      @metrolights891 5 років тому

      @Y Liu Not likely...most course materials from MIT are made public

  • @ismailnoor6729
    @ismailnoor6729 5 років тому

    Silicon Valley it no more revelations than technology

  • @kankeliu3093
    @kankeliu3093 5 років тому

    Yasheng Huang, another Gordon G. Chang ,you should trust him.

  • @truezyf
    @truezyf 5 років тому

    why america be so afraid of competition?

  • @antskilu1354
    @antskilu1354 5 років тому

    atleast poor pplz can take bolts from the rails and exchange for booze.

  • @WolfieY2k
    @WolfieY2k 5 років тому

    Are the chinese able to pay for the black technologies obtain via espionage...

  • @myessyallyahamericus8405
    @myessyallyahamericus8405 4 роки тому

    Your ads are worse than being burned as a witch.

  • @devondevon4366
    @devondevon4366 5 років тому

    On the resolution will the next Silicon Valley be in China? I think likely . Is the belt and road a 1 trillion blunder? I think China will get political benefit and military benefit than economic benefit from this such as countries signing on more likely to sever diplomatic relationship with Taiwan to appease China. Italy has signed on last week becoming the largest economy to do so.
    on the last resolution 'is the trade war hurting both china and the us'? I think so.

  • @pcstar123
    @pcstar123 5 років тому

    She had no substance and was stuttering a lot! They were dumb(39:00), maybe you are! LOL!

  • @80thiconoclast
    @80thiconoclast 5 років тому

    This is a silly thing. but does anyone else hate the design of these little microphones? They look like big boils or deformities on faces.

  • @bobbarkeriii2597
    @bobbarkeriii2597 5 років тому

    I love the Game Show format here. Who won the prize? And who won second prize of gift certificates.

  • @zahidmehmood6683
    @zahidmehmood6683 5 років тому

    Susan is cynical ..

  • @captiveexile2670
    @captiveexile2670 4 роки тому

    Read the book (historicsl fiction) entitled SILK ROAD JESUS -- which describes how the early Silk Road from China brought great rolls of silk and new medicines (Chinese) to the Roman Empire. The terminius was Palmyra, Syria-- just hop-skip, and a jump from Jesus' home i Galillee ( a backwater of the original very conservative religion of Moses.Thus one must vuew the resl person "Jesus" as one seeking to re-establish that original (very purist) Jewish religion (which Romans considered a collection of "unbelievers" who filed to embrace Zeus, NIke, Minerva, Appolo and theb others in their pantheon of "gods").
    Palmyra today, despite having been trashed by Islamic radical "nut-cases" (DAESH/ ISIS), represents one of the world's greatest (and most overlooked) Roman riuns--a collonaded city tht was the hub of three cravansaries (1) Silk Road from China, (2) Spice route from Goa, India, and (3) Nabatesn Caravans from Yemen. Africa bringing frankincense/ myrhh and apes/lioin/tigers from Africs to the city of Rome (hub of their plundering colonian empire.

  • @geraldinetong4108
    @geraldinetong4108 5 років тому

    Who is thus MIT guy, Huang, bias and lying to his teeth.

  • @ismailnoor6729
    @ismailnoor6729 5 років тому

    China 🇨🇳 will rule yaaa

  • @tclinn2909
    @tclinn2909 5 років тому

    Other than Parag Khanna, where's the intelligence on his panel? It's not apparent.

  • @raptor6038
    @raptor6038 5 років тому

    I clicked bait i read the word "intelligent" there

  • @shirlynng6560
    @shirlynng6560 5 років тому

    Z

  • @yinka661
    @yinka661 5 років тому

    Why so many scare stories about China? Yasheng is close to being a truth-sayer on the panel, I think. He recommended a book by Loren Graham which i will buy and read. The extract i read seems very interesting and thought provoking. Now the author’s suggestion that Russian should sync up with western companies i think is erroneous but i will reserve criticism for now until i read the book. My instinct is for Russia to actually link up with its neighbour China and by so doing bring in Africa. I am thinking these 3 culturally different entities would pave the way in a new way of living. There will be issues along the way but if i were a betting person i think this will ultimately be the future. I think India has made its decision to align itself to the US which is a mistake. This is not US bashing but the US is too far gone in its myopic view of capitalism; it is a form of greed for the sake of it and that has coloured its whole vision of itself and the world beyond its borders.

  • @playnite2188
    @playnite2188 5 років тому

    Eew

  • @natehiger410
    @natehiger410 5 років тому +3

    Yasheng Huang is a real joke.

  • @ismailnoor6729
    @ismailnoor6729 5 років тому

    America double standard who steel more tech America vis China 🇨🇳