This is probably the most balanced documentary I’ve seen from US based media. Kudos to PBS for bringing quality journalism to US audiences. It takes two to tango. Both sides need to make compromises to make this trade relationship work. Doing that is in the interest of themselves and the world.
@M L I always find Americans entertaining to read. Your entire, and I repeat ENTIRE agricultural sector is heavily subsidized to the tune of 20 billion, but I guess its ok, since it works in your favour. Hypocrisy?
@M L Petrodollar, Military Industrial complex, abusing your status in the UN, tossing your might around to bully nations into ceding to you, quantitative easing, which is print money out of your ass without the consequence of inflation thanks to the status of the dollar. Something no country in the world can do. Not to mention you invade countries on a whim to serve your interests. Literally, have your finger dipped in every single conflict since WWII. Yet you want to cry foul? Common man. Your absolute lack of perspective and grasp of the overall picture is.....how to say this politely, so American of you.
All empires fall, but not without bloodshed. If and when America falls, it will not be without bombs being dropped. Borders are either crossed for trade or crossed for war. Let’s all pray it continues for trade.
Yeah I don't think a country with only 320M people will make a dent against one with 1.3B, both nuclear, so mutually assured destruction. So war is impossible. The neocons only go after small and weak countries to change their presidents and steal their resources, like iraq, libya, syria, now venezuela, they couldn't even handle vietnam, another ridiculous endeavor in which 1.3M people, mostly very poor civilians, died for exactly nothing.
As a European there are many moments that I think. Are All Americans really this ignorant. But you only have to see one PBS Documentary to realize. Thank God there are also Intelligent Americans.
as a double citizen of the EU and us, I, too, wonder if there are any intelligent Americans sometimes. Luckily there are a few, but they realize where the US is going and leave for europe 😂
As you say! Ancient Egypt Greek Roman Civilization American Empire and now is coming China! But those people are dangerous as they buy raw materials,food,textiles and re sell them and their population are like ants!
Great comment, you are absolutely right. Most people today want to pick a tribe and push an absolutist view. The world is much more complicated than these simple minds.
She is a professional and perfect Chinese singer. Before her husband elected to be the Chinese president, she already became famous before President Xi.
Erik B just because I complimented a rivalry's wife doesn't make me a shill. Please have some decency before accusing others. Good manners will take you farther in life.
@Donovan Dey Trump is the national shame of the United States. We are in favor of suppressing China, because China is in the process of industrial upgrading and we cannot avoid this time grabbing our market share. But what Trump has done has cost the United States the connections it has established globally. All he cares about is elections
@Donovan Dey all these media outlets are now conveniently silent about china. No problem in criticising trump as he deserves it, but must'nt be used as a tool to divert attention from the real culprits. Know your enemies and act now, otherwise it'll be too late for america.
This documentary is one of the best I've ever seen . The lady asked the right questions that any person would ask . I know we all want and we all say we need to work together for both countries but I know its not gonna happen
As a Chinese, I like how business industry people in the video said that to better equip with ourselves instead of blaming others. it works for anyone regardless of ideologies.
Kana Huang - There is no understanding of the damage done to your own fellow Citizens, nor the damage done to us in the West, in your comment. The message of just doing better is an elitist and treasonous stance, denying the depth of the crimes, and the power and momentum accrued through the perpetration of those crimes. Until it no longer 'works for everyone', but rather there is hegemonic control and then tyranny. Which is exactly what China represents.
PBS is one of the Leftist MSM sell outs. Deeply antagonistic to the preservation of traditional, Christian, historical America, the vanguard of Western Civilization. Enjoying all the benefits and liberties, but cursing the precepts and moral framework that stands as the most powerful adversary to their progressive agenda.
@@jaylarsen3647 i understand your point. but I'm not a policy maker anyway, it's just a piece of personal information I took from the video. whether it is patriotic or treasonous, it belongs to the political professionals. tbh, it still works fine with the quote "fix our (supreme democratic liberal political)system instead of blaming others("regime change","China undoubtedly represents red hegemonic control and tyranny"). thx for the reply and info, I didn't know PBS is a left side media.
Not necessarily. They just need to buy a large enough share to have access to intellectual property and fund a direct competitor. Also I hear they don’t respect our patent laws
@YourNatureBoy27 No, US should have concentrated on skills, better education and good relations. Wild West movies were out of date last century. There isn't a way of blocking: i.e. Thanks to Trump the US farmer lost 1/3 exportmarket of soy. The Chinese buy from Brazil instead. Every primitive blocking strikes back on yourself.
@My Thoughts It's a free market within its fabric of its structure is design to optimize their profits no matter what, It's a fundamental of capitalist if thats foundation is built on that, what do you think will happen?
The real problem in America is that those at the top have rigged the system so they're the only ones who benefit from global productivity. They only call it socialism or communism when anyone else benefits.
@Silvers Rayleigh, eh I disagree. I thought it was critical and fairly representative of both sides. Either way, kept my attention the entire time. So applauded nonetheless.
I am not an economist, but I know before the trade war, an impact wrench at Home Depot was $200, and all the sudden it increased to $240 after the trade war. I was plan to buy it but $40 extra cost made me not to buy.
America and the world should be thanking China for being able to produce such an affordable products and present them to the world. Ignorant arrogant uneducated smericans don't see it that way and are jealous at everyone that's better than them or doing anything better than they do.
Again, I like this lady journalist, her name is Laura Sullivan. She is objective, smart, professional. Her name should be remembered by us. She is the example to all the journalists.
Right now, we have that insane imbecile Trump to blame. He is the one fucking up America. And, he is a traitor that should be in prison. ... *_Rep. Ken Buck, REPUBLICAN-Colorado: "Could you charge the President with a crime after he left office?" ... Mueller: "Yes."_* ... *_Rep. Ken Buck, REPUBLICAN-Colorado: "You believe that he committed - you could charge the President of the United States with obstruction of justice after he left office?" ... Mueller: "Yes."_* ... _LOCK HIM UP!_
MrChet407 - It depends on what aspect of “school” you are talking about. Of course the MS and HS systems in the US are significantly off based, and need change. Most importantly, we need to purge all political motivated teachers.
School expenses going up and all these Walmart and dollar store employees are supposed to send their kids! Debt through the roof for an education you can’t use.
This documentary kinda feels like that Michael Phelps quote, “Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners” China has a winners mentality when USA has a mentality of wanting to destroy China.. not a mindset to have USA We as Americans must focus on growth not destroying in order to continue to be a strong nation!
You people are already lose....Just to accept your lose and open the global economy now.....the hands of last many American leaders are dirty from the blood of Muslim kids in different Muslims countries for Oil and other resources and that's the ultimate cause of American downfall.....pray for more and more strength of China from Pakistan....Amen
Really good stuff Laura Sullivan and Frontline! Most American citizens won't watch Frontline, PBS, NPR. It's sad bc that's where we'll get honest mostly unbiased reporting.
with trump and his brainwashed fanboys in control murica will have a hard time finding a country thats more dumb than they are, even underdeveloped 3rd world countries have a higher avg intelligence, so goodbye former world power. At least china doesnt bomb other countries justified with lies every 10 years, US even managed to lose all these wars. :D:D:D
To do this you need to start deregulating and having a deeper look in government blockers if you want manufactures back in America. Here is an example of what I mean: If regulations force manufactures to pay more for production raising said market value product from $4.00 to $16.00 then said regulation probably needs amending because nobody is going to buy $16.00 worth of junk if $4.00 is standard price. This $16.00 issue also goes into perception of labor pay because people might think the company is making 4x profit when in reality they are really making $0.50 profit per sale because of existing government demanded costs which leaves little growth in paychecks and when Unions decide to rise because of perceived growth and be denied because of reality. They will strike and force a massive loss to the manufacture. This loss in labor participation combined with rising government enforced costs and shrinking market sales due to high priced products will lead to manufactures leaving or closing down again. So it at least all starts with government deregulation or restructure of regulations to begin with.
Vice Montel it is the personal greed of big business and politicians who sell us out. China requires technology transfer to do business there and that transfer of technology plays a big part in our deficits. They take that technology to build their own products, apply tariffs to our products that’s for sale making our goods expensive there while we take in their goods with very low tariffs and sell it cheaply here.
@@jai6491 Yes they do and it is a huge issue that our government has allowed to occur, knowingly, by both sides. The only way to have stopped this is to push back with companies that deal with China, but it's already too late for that. IMO We can't do much to China because we, under the last 30 years, built China's economy from our own pockets and they used the money to make more money with other nations. The ship has sailed on stopping China economically if the other powers that be do not agree with stopping them and they don't because China already owns huge ports in those countries and has secured itself politically in the U.N. That's what I talked about having our government start with itself because honestly we can't do much to China anymore since both political parties opened their doors to Chinese offers.
@Gregory Alfano There will be a level playing field when Chinese wages and standards of living are the same as that in the US. Likewise for the rest of the world.
@@heilnop8014 That's not true, there are strong property protections in china, stronger than India. When a Chinese citizen refused to give up her land for road, government built road around her home. As an non-chinese( may be american) judging a country and people that you never visited is ignorent. Stop watching your billionaire controlled media, you are million times brainwashed than average chinese.
We do now with Joe Biden who can't even form a coherent sentence and gets confused when asked basic questions that even Grammer School students can understand and answer.
25:23 Chinese government support of WM Motor resulted in a factory being built from scratch in 16 months to produce 200K electric vehicles annually. Meanwhile, our government is promising "coal jobs are coming back". Jeez, no prizes for guessing how this ends.
@Gregory Alfano Unemployment= under employed =3 jobs to pay bills 5 million jobs where??? Not for working class people maybe flippin' burgers. And yeah, training and school is exorbitant so don't say 'go to school, get training' and sh**t cuz it's unaffordable, and tons of people have degrees and still can't find a decent paying job.
@Matt R - Still butthurt over Horrible Hillary losing to a celebrity reality TV show real-estate billionaire. Leftist tears bring me such joy. Sore loser!
Trump was right about one thing; these free trade deals were never about free trade. They were about free investment. MFN status for China has meant that American corporations can relocate their American plants to China where most of the production will take place and then send the finished goods to America. If we also sold American-made finished goods to China like our politicians led us to believe then it would be free trade. But America mostly sells raw materials to China that will be used to make the finished products imported to the US. It was all done in the name of profit maximization. And in many cases, prices for these goods did not decrease.
@@coshvjicujmlqef6047You obviously didn't read my comment very carefully. These corporations didn't make trillions trading with China; they made trillions investing in China. Big difference. And if you live in America then wise up man because it will affect you also if it hasn't already. And yes I do blame these bought and sold politicians.
@@coshvjicujmlqef6047 $1000 per month is chicken feed. See how far that wil get you in a place like New York. Even in the Ozarks of Arkansas, I'm sure you can live like a king on a thousand buck a month...if you don't eat!
The old saying, "You're your worst enemy" comes to mind. A toxic cocktail of myopic corporate greed and equally myopic/ideological/idiotic Washington politicians on both aisles who shafted the American worker/economy for what?
Not just amazon most corporations could care less about people livelihood as long they profit from misery of humanity....to protect we need more representation labor unions, lawyers...totake on these crooked robber baron capitalist who ship jobs oversees ans slave people by paying them pennies, non living wages. With few to no benefits, no social security.....
@@food6374 u mean Center for Communication Programs , Community College of Philadelphia , Central Counterparty , Cities for Climate Protection , Cultural Center of the Philippines , Code of Civil Procedure ? :))
China will provide cheap labor and build amazing building for your company in exchange for Forced technology transfer (FTT) Which means that when a foreign company wants to enter the Chinese market, it has to surrender its technology to Chinese companies through a joint venture agreement, or in some cases regulations.
awashlv A If you want the mouth watering steak on display in the supermarket, you pay for it. Is it a forced payment. Yes, if you do not pay, you do not get. But nobody ever says "Walmart forces me to give money in exchange for the steak!" Unless he wishes to malign Walmart. Do you call the transaction FMT forced money transfer, you China basher.
@@jiaxiangchen6743 Forced technology transfer (FTT) is a practice in which a domestic government forces foreign businesses to share their tech in exchange for market access. ... When a company wants to enter the Chinese market, the Chinese government can compel the firm to share its technology with Chinese companies. So that's a fact, but it's the company's fault for allowing it and accepting the deal.
You can not called it force transfer if you walk away from the business dealing. You can keep your technology and set up a factory at home, which create jobs for American, a win for US economy. But the CEO has a duty to his shareholders and his own Christmas Bonus package. If you want his 25 million dollars bonus and expand and maintain the level of competition, he/she needs to reduce cost for a MUCH higher profit margin. This is basic economic 101 if you every took at any college level. Of course this will be at the expanse of America jobs and competitive edge in the long strategic plan. Unless you turn the clock back 200 years ago where America grow at the expense of slavery, where every white man had their filling of coins in the pocket while the slaves get whip for not working hard enough. Thank God
Omg, sound accompaniment so good, video montage also at very high level, facts are true and interviews are impressive - host, team and all who made this video possible - you did the great job!
Right because we had the cheapest and best steel in the world which everyone wanted! Before long we didn't have the cheapest, best steel anymore so many buyers looked elsewhere. That's capitalism. Why do you think it's the government's job to step in and spend taxpayers' money on these industries?
then the arabs found out how much Americans would pay for gas. we couldn't afford the gas to push a 2 1/2 ton car around. so the lighter cars used less steel
@Thomas Headley free lunch to those that make it themselves, and there could be free lunch if all of the nation helped one another (america doesn't believe in helping others so they usually just starve if they can't pay)
Douglas Cunningham The peaceful advancement period of human race history is all about win win. But if you think there can only be one winning party then we will get you back to stone age. This is so real, Chinese is capable of produce 10k nukes within 2 years. I think we might have to just do that, in case there are too many idiots like you driving US democracy. We will show you what a lose lose looks like.
This is really about the failure of free-trade, and more broadly the failure of the economics of Neo-liberalism. American economic elites profited massively from the corporate globalization of supply chains, to the detriment of American Workers, and our standing in the world.
The only reason that happened is also partially due to consumers demanding lower prices. The consumer as well as the corporations that complied w/ consumer demand for cheaper stuff by outsourcing the jobs, did this.
There are fundamental differences between the two countries, where China can make economic and political decisions top-down (expanding into tech, upgrading manufacturing, etc.) and the American system is bottom-up, where the everyday people are concerned about jobs, and politicians are elected to fulfill these needs by individuals. These people might have no knowledge of how America can develop and transform the economy anyway.
This will all work itself out. Many will be unhappy, but they peed in their own bed. Snot my fault. Go China !! Go democrats !!! Go Biden !! Make us suffer. Make the lesson learned worth the result. Make communism the controlling factor for the communist people.
My father was a machine engineer in the late 80s through the 90s. My father and his colleagues went to a Chinese factory to sell them a machine they had created to manufacture computer parts. The Chinese company bought 2 machines with the promise to buy more in the near future. Cool okay no problem. My father never heard anything back from them for a bit but when he went back for another business trip he decided to go back to that factory and see how they were doing and if they possibly needed more machines. My father walks in and he sees his machine in the back in pieces and he sees they just used it to reverse engineer and make their own.. totally ignoring all of the patents.. My dads company based in the US with US employees lost thousands due to them stealing their design.. They refused to sell the China ever again. He laughs about it now but it really hurt the company back in the day.
@Jedi solo cheap Chinese craps had been helping billions of poor people who cant afford expensive stuff like you, very soon coming expensensive chinese stuff , oh yess i had bought one, Cow boy time is gone,,, Kungfu dancing is coming,,,,,o yeahhh wait! Hold my beer ,,,
As the Chinese believe, “Patience is the ultimate virtue - and the only enduring standard of measure - of whomever purportedly considers himself a stable genius - supposedly even a Godsend.” Charles Darwin would have intelligently attributed China’s long history in effective civil administration - based on institutional meritocracy - to the versatility of Chinese civilizational statecraft. Evolutionary predominance is determined by the survivors - through time and tide. Not by empty vessels. If the “free market” owes its success to layers upon layers of “trade secrets”, how do the average consumers make rational *informed decisions? Average consumers are made cannon fodder of Capitalist predators - in the escalating trade war. According to the father of liberal economics, consumer interests should rule the free market. Adam Smith: ON THE DIVISION OF LABOUR… 1. It is the maxim of every prudent master of a family, never to attempt to make at home what it will cost him more to make than to buy…What is prudence in the conduct of every private family, can scarce be folly in that of a great kingdom. …AND TRADE SPECIALISATION 2. By means of glasses, hotbeds, and hotwalls, very good grapes can be raised in Scotland, and very good wine too can be made of them at about thirty times the expense for which at least equally good can be brought from foreign countries. Would it be a reasonable law to prohibit the importation of all foreign wines, merely to encourage the making of claret and burgundy in Scotland? ON COMPETITION… 3. In general, if any branch of trade, or any division of labour, be advantageous to the public, the freer and more general the competition, it will always be the more so. 4. Consumption is the sole end and purpose of all production; and the interest of the producer ought to be attended to, only so far as it may be necessary for promoting that of the consumer. …AND THE DISTORTION OF TRADE 5. To widen the market and to narrow the competition, is always the interest of the dealers… The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order, ought always to be listened to with great precaution, and ought never to be adopted till after having been long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men, whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the public, who have generally an interest to deceive and even oppress the public, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it.
If you are Chinese maybe. But it doesnt blame the US companies enough. They are to blame for selling out communities for short term profits. Or predatory practises the Chinese have regarding govt support.
@1manuscriptman how could your neighbour STOLE something you have never had. a fake 5G logo works? you also ask FedEx to steal his mail?who is stealing?
Steve Bannon is correct, i am ethnic chinese from singapore (crazy rich asian country)and i agree with Steve , China CCP is a nazi like party aimed at achieve global domination . U want continue western democracy or socialistic autocratic 1 party state. no if no buts. it is best to elimate China just like Reagon eliminate the Soviet Commie Party
@@woonfaseng8737 If the US was interested in Western Democracy it would try first to adopt it in the US. As it is, few countries give less attention to the will of the people as in the US. You can't name a single law in 25 years that did not primarily benefit a lobbyist's employer inside or outside the US ot that mostly benefited regular citizens. Study after study on governance shows the influence-general citizens have over policy in the US is essentially Zero. That is not democracy. When Saudi Arabia or Israel have a perfect record of getting what they want from the US and citizens have no such influence it is a matter of self-deception to call the US a democracy. The press keeps saying China is a dictatorship but look at the improvement in the quality of life for even the poorest Chinese has taken place in the last 10 years. China has become the biggest consumer market in the world, the largest number of people who travel internationally for leisure, the biggest car market, biggest electronics and appliance market. Subsistence farmers 10 years ago are taking international vacations and have a savings rate of 56% of their income and far higher PPP than Americans. They live in the most modern cities in the world with excellent low-cost public transport and every village in the country now has high-speed internet and electricity. In only 15 years China has built the most modern high-speed rail system in the world covering every region
These people didn't watch enough motivational videos : " Stop worrying others are becoming better than you , Become better than yourself today ! " Why trying too hard to go around suppressing other rising countries ? It will do us nothing good whenever we tried to suppress others.
PBS needs to improve it's journalism, which sucks a big one at present. The worst enemy of the American worker is the American media. The elephant in the room is not the economy but the fact that the china model is totalitarianism and fascism. If you look up the dictionary definitions of both of those terms. It's a sad fact that we coming back in the 21st century to what we thought we defeated with Nazi Germany in the 1940s That is the model that China is following they're doing under the name of communism and they claim they are doing it for the people, but in fact they're really for the elites and they're working for themselves and their small group of guys in the politburo, not for the regular people.
I am firmly in the Democrat camp, but I fully acknowledge that Trump was far more firm with other countries than most presidents. That is one thing i liked about his presidency and i have zero problems taking that point to my Democrat friends. Buuuut, I am concerned about the over emphasis on America being No. 1 forever. The cost of pissing off every other country to achieve that doesnt seem worth it.
Yes we need to turn off this exploding everything is sight during movies. And learn the art of love and botherhood, caring for others simply because we all will have the same end we are all americans.
Rob RedeyedPumpkin A noble goal my friend, but unfortunately in this day and age it is all about greed and fucking over other people to get what you want, others be damned! It will be the end of us
@@easterbuny2226 nah, the West invest and move business to China for profit, let's not pretend companies from the West are charities. China have what these companies want and the companies have what China wants, its simple trade, capitalism even. Just that China played it better since they have much more money and much desired product (the 1.4billion market). They didnt take your freedom, your companies choose to sell out for profit, the very thing China is wary of from big corpos, that's what you get from capitalism market. You win some, you lose some. You get great commerce but you will also lose stuff because its simply profitable to do so
the idea is not to win the plan is to go down and take mostly everyone else with them apart from that which is between the 2rivers and what is very close by also,,,its the powershift...america has served its purpose,,or did you buy all that crap about land of the free and home of the brave,?the serpent connects england america and israel,
Born in East Germany I wonder why we failed with planned economy back then whereas China is so successful with it now. Probably because the 16 Million East German people market was a bit smaller than the 1.3 Billion Chinese market. Plus their leaders are obviously much more clever ;-).
America is Corporate Socialism with its “Leaders” having little regard to the rank & file. BTW a “level playing field” is not a capitalistic concept. It’s a sporting metaphor that is ironic at best
My dad left america because of this, and lived a miserable life here in primitive nz..someone should pay for doing this, and its just continue...50yrs scumbags...
Basically what I learned is the US model unraveled all by itself. They wanted to have it both ways and were short-term greedy for new markets. Market fundamentalists always need new markets right? Growth beyond anything. The US government was half-run by these exact same CEOs. China expertly exploited this relationship for years, always kowtowing to whatever lectures and accusations came at it, saying "oh yeah you're right, oh big daddy US. Teach us more please". And then the US couldn't keep it's own house in order, the economy tanked in 2008 and the entire US model came crashing down in the years after. China is not biting it's tongue anymore. Well played China, well played.
And Trump has been warning about this for almost 40 years. I believe this is partially the reason he floated the bi yearly corporate reporting instead of quarterly.
Frontline, thank you for your superb and intense reporting around the world...you all get the truth...the "Real Story!" I've been a fan for over 15 years! 👌😊
@@stylz1 Anyone who has been to a war zone does not use this word lightly, If a trade agreement can not be met by both sides tariffs are the result, trade must be somehow balanced to continue any length of time, think of a balance scale if this sounds complicated.
I'm not an expert in anything however during Trump's trade war my 401k was doing amazing, the cost of goods at the store was literally half of what it is now and we were not abandoning our allies to torture and death, no one was watching Afghans plummet to their deaths from the landing gear of planes to escape the terrorists. Intellectuals can debate all they want I intend to trust my eyes.
Click here for an inside look at the White House’s fight over China and the trade war: to.pbs.org/2WIgfYV
Okay, sure thing.
Can't believe a thing you say.
Yiran D you mean the Chinese government is helping the Chinese business
Robert Smith what do you recommend watching, may I ask?
@@hakunamatata887 you need study more about China, even though some points you mentioned have merits, but most are incorrect !
This is probably the most balanced documentary I’ve seen from US based media. Kudos to PBS for bringing quality journalism to US audiences. It takes two to tango. Both sides need to make compromises to make this trade relationship work. Doing that is in the interest of themselves and the world.
It's because PBS is publicly funded.
xiaoliangtube ...This is anti-American propaganda from Democrats and their China master.
@@ethanallen2889 relax, Clinton was considered more dangerous than Trump for Chinese Communists, but now it seems an embarrassing anticipation
AKDGsonic 😂
This is the reason why PBS is the only televised news I watch (albeit on UA-cam).
We need more reporters like this....gives the opinion of both sides with no slant to either side ....much props to this lady and her crew
i think she was more worried that her beloved motherland has in trouble
Josh redinger bullshit who side is she in? She seems for China.
Are you serious... she has a clear leftist slant, Chinese slant, Anti "President Trump ".... clear as day... she can't even say "President Trump "..
@M L I always find Americans entertaining to read. Your entire, and I repeat ENTIRE agricultural sector is heavily subsidized to the tune of 20 billion, but I guess its ok, since it works in your favour. Hypocrisy?
@M L Petrodollar, Military Industrial complex, abusing your status in the UN, tossing your might around to bully nations into ceding to you, quantitative easing, which is print money out of your ass without the consequence of inflation thanks to the status of the dollar. Something no country in the world can do. Not to mention you invade countries on a whim to serve your interests. Literally, have your finger dipped in every single conflict since WWII. Yet you want to cry foul? Common man. Your absolute lack of perspective and grasp of the overall picture is.....how to say this politely, so American of you.
“We just want China to play by the rules”.... Wake up pal. Their rules are not our rules.
They have to follow WTO rules, like everyone else.
While you and many like you think small to play by the rules, 50 years will pass by and the U.S will become a 3rd world country.
All empires fall, but not without bloodshed. If and when America falls, it will not be without bombs being dropped. Borders are either crossed for trade or crossed for war. Let’s all pray it continues for trade.
As if the US followed any rules either.
@@drnoahdaniel The Soviet Union collapsed with little bloodshed. Here's to hoping the US empire can go out with the same grace.
Why and how do Americans take Steve Bannon seriously?
The guy is a wealthy bum.
Even he can beat kamala Harris in polls. Don't be a moron to just everybody.
This journalist is so fierce and she asked the right questions. Truly amazing
Looks like a good ds too.
Damm!!! This is better than going watch new movies in theater.
click my name to watch Son of perdition part 4
America:End Game
Fuck China, we don't need to buy their crappy products. They need us more then we need them.
@@thegodfather1907 fuck you
@@luckyseven2027 quit your bullshit you two and let your countries fight for you instead lol.
It sent shivers through my spine when Steve Bannon said the only way for the trade war to be won is to have regime change in China.
I know. That will never happen.
Yeah I don't think a country with only 320M people will make a dent against one with 1.3B, both nuclear, so mutually assured destruction. So war is impossible. The neocons only go after small and weak countries to change their presidents and steal their resources, like iraq, libya, syria, now venezuela, they couldn't even handle vietnam, another ridiculous endeavor in which 1.3M people, mostly very poor civilians, died for exactly nothing.
Steven Bannon and trump for prison to prevent ww3
Nice dream for the US!
China is a nuclear power also!
You want to go for a dooms day scenario?
Very stupid, I think!
@@szaki For Prison ##
As a European there are many moments that I think. Are All Americans really this ignorant. But you only have to see one PBS Documentary to realize. Thank God there are also Intelligent Americans.
as a double citizen of the EU and us, I, too, wonder if there are any intelligent Americans sometimes. Luckily there are a few, but they realize where the US is going and leave for europe 😂
"Kingdoms rise and Kingdoms fall" History taught us so.....
Then why is CHina still here stupid shit?
Praise King Trump!
King dump rises and kingdom falls
@@tomviktorsson5052 lol, my apologies for my stupidity Tom.
As you say!
Ancient Egypt
Greek Roman Civilization
American Empire and now is coming China!
But those people are dangerous as they buy raw materials,food,textiles and re sell them and their population are like ants!
Great piece! This is true journalism, the black the white and the grey; a view from all angles and perspectives.
Great comment, you are absolutely right. Most people today want to pick a tribe and push an absolutist view. The world is much more complicated than these simple minds.
what a fking joke this was blatant pro-china propaganda.
From all angels, devils and angles.... ;)
@@PhiloSurfer Thanks for highlighting my typo. You've made me a better man and the world a better place. ;)
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Steve Bannon going for the Guinness World record for most shirts worn at the same time by the same person.
Take a drink every time he puts on a shirt. Hey wait...the bottle is almost empty. What the....?
it is to soak up all that fat boys alcoholic sweat. He may also go in the Guinness book for having sweat that can be used as lamp fuel.
Bannon is genius when it comes to politics.
junkie cold sweats
Lol, did not even notice that till you brought it up
Using our greed against us is the smartest thing China has done. And our CEOs and politicians are more than happy to give them our business.
Off topic: President Xi's wife looks very elegant and graceful.
@Malik Martin Especially the reporter
You'll need to hide better you shill.
She is a professional and perfect Chinese singer. Before her husband elected to be the Chinese president, she already became famous before President Xi.
Erik B just because I complimented a rivalry's wife doesn't make me a shill. Please have some decency before accusing others. Good manners will take you farther in life.
Teddy Chen thanks for the info. She seems interesting.
Leaning on an philosophy from the fifties is extremely dangerous.
Feeling superior is multiplying the danger.
Anyone else here after COVID19 outbreak?
fuck you
Absolutely, 50.4 - 52.15 record play has all sirens ringing
@Donovan Dey Trump is the national shame of the United States. We are in favor of suppressing China, because China is in the process of industrial upgrading and we cannot avoid this time grabbing our market share. But what Trump has done has cost the United States the connections it has established globally. All he cares about is elections
Janos Nemeth hi, fuck you too.
@Donovan Dey all these media outlets are now conveniently silent about china. No problem in criticising trump as he deserves it, but must'nt be used as a tool to divert attention from the real culprits. Know your enemies and act now, otherwise it'll be too late for america.
This documentary is one of the best I've ever seen . The lady asked the right questions that any person would ask .
I know we all want and we all say we need to work together for both countries but I know its not gonna happen
Nice punctuation. Are you five?
@@anypercentdeathlessare u 5? Responding on a year old comment criticizing punctuation on text typed by a phone probably
@@RaunchyRoger007 Ditto, petty AF
Some may say that these are not the right questions.
No that title belongs
The United States of Secrets
Also by done Frontline.
As a Chinese, I like how business industry people in the video said that to better equip with ourselves instead of blaming others. it works for anyone regardless of ideologies.
that´s how it sounds if you interview educated and reasonable people (on both sides)
good video!
Kana Huang - There is no understanding of the damage done to your own fellow Citizens, nor the damage done to us in the West, in your comment.
The message of just doing better is an elitist and treasonous stance, denying the depth of the crimes, and the power and momentum accrued through the perpetration of those crimes. Until it no longer 'works for everyone', but rather there is hegemonic control and then tyranny. Which is exactly what China represents.
PBS is one of the Leftist MSM sell outs. Deeply antagonistic to the preservation of traditional, Christian, historical America, the vanguard of Western Civilization. Enjoying all the benefits and liberties, but cursing the precepts and moral framework that stands as the most powerful adversary to their progressive agenda.
@@jaylarsen3647 i understand your point. but I'm not a policy maker anyway, it's just a piece of personal information I took from the video. whether it is patriotic or treasonous, it belongs to the political professionals. tbh, it still works fine with the quote "fix our (supreme democratic liberal political)system instead of blaming others("regime change","China undoubtedly represents red hegemonic control and tyranny"). thx for the reply and info, I didn't know PBS is a left side media.
@Hank Fountain But you're a Jew
if paid by 15 billion dollars, it's fairly enough to not call it theft. It's simply deal made
zhmz888 they hack and reverse engineer anything they cannot buy you mean...
@@bschell1969 Every company reverse engineers its rivals products. It is not even limited to technology even banks do it.
@@bschell1969 At least they try to buy it first.
Not necessarily. They just need to buy a large enough share to have access to intellectual property and fund a direct competitor. Also I hear they don’t respect our patent laws
Thank you PBS always feel more educated when watching your context. I live up north in Canada and what affects the U.S. affects Canada.
When I moved North couple decades ago,PBS was my favorite Station, their Nature Program was Captivating
PBS is orange man bad dude there full of it
@@nachospopthe3rd564 Please ,am trying to forget that he ever existed
Yea why are we not surprised.. Canada..
@The Truth They Dont Want You To Know no they are not misinformation.. they are very informative..
Looooove Frontline, straight up reporting no lies no bull 👍👍👍👍👍
When China was building factories and warehouses the USA Was looking for cheap labor
Not the US. The global companies.
@@chieflouie2821 The global companies owned bu us business men
@YourNatureBoy27 No, US should have concentrated on skills, better education and good relations. Wild West movies were out of date last century. There isn't a way of blocking: i.e. Thanks to Trump the US farmer lost 1/3 exportmarket of soy. The Chinese buy from Brazil instead. Every primitive blocking strikes back on yourself.
So you sit down, cry and blame. You are part of the US problem
@YourNatureBoy27 You are part of the US problem.
When team loses in soccer we blame opposing team, ground , weather etc. instead of improving ourselves for next months to come.
Lakpa Sherpa one way to improve ourselves is to kill the opponent
Lakpa Sherpa economic can’t compare to soccer man
@@jliu34740 You are an idiot
@My Thoughts It's a free market within its fabric of its structure is design to optimize their profits no matter what, It's a fundamental of capitalist if thats foundation is built on that, what do you think will happen?
The real problem in America is that those at the top have rigged the system so they're the only ones who benefit from global productivity. They only call it socialism or communism when anyone else benefits.
Woah. Frontline and it's reporters have been blowing me away lately. This was phenomenal. Bravo 👏👏
Anti Trump throughout this whole video...
@Silvers Rayleigh, eh I disagree. I thought it was critical and fairly representative of both sides.
Either way, kept my attention the entire time. So applauded nonetheless.
Pls go to their website to further check out their deep impact Documentaries over the years ...
@@PoopiteeScoop lmfao so much selective editing, neo-communist totalitarian d*ck sucking, and blatant propaganda. this report made me sick.
Retired Shitposter Ok
I am not an economist, but I know before the trade war, an impact wrench at Home Depot was $200, and all the sudden it increased to $240 after the trade war. I was plan to buy it but $40 extra cost made me not to buy.
👨🚀🛰🏡🇲🇺🇨🇳🇺🇸
And that's Trumps fault?. Lol
I'm curious what you think now a year after you first wrote the comment.
America and the world should be thanking China for being able to produce such an affordable products and present them to the world. Ignorant arrogant uneducated smericans don't see it that way and are jealous at everyone that's better than them or doing anything better than they do.
@@AlCapone71 Trump was so stupid, he thought other nations would not retaliate. Yeah, it WAS HIS FAULT. Increased the trade deficit 40%.
The best justice documentary About trade war. The US is supposed to report objectively like this. This is the real way of super country.
Did not expect Bannon to be this blunt. Should change his name to loose cannon.
did u expect him to be elegantly diplomatic?
Again, I like this lady journalist, her name is Laura Sullivan. She is objective, smart, professional. Her name should be remembered by us. She is the example to all the journalists.
"You know uh you know,
the US government listens to Companies"
Most honest comment by the Chamber of Commerce you will ever hear.
Grandpa Xi's face expression is always the same you cannot tell if he is smiling or crying.
thats good poker face.
winnie the pooh
*Yellow bear with red shirt and no pants resemblance*
Here's a mean girl comment.
Asian thing , isn’t just China or Chinese ppl , all Asian people hold their facial expressions conservatively.
you can see how difference western and eastern thinking, and this is probably the most balanced documentary i had see in western media
propaganda. bannon is the one that is right.
We have no one to thank other than the big consulting firms for selling the idea of outsourcing jobs to their clients back in the early 2000's.
outsourcing started in the 60's, private equity compelled it in the 80's, greed fuels it now.
Right now, we have that insane imbecile Trump to blame. He is the one fucking up America. And, he is a traitor that should be in prison. ... *_Rep. Ken Buck, REPUBLICAN-Colorado: "Could you charge the President with a crime after he left office?" ... Mueller: "Yes."_* ... *_Rep. Ken Buck, REPUBLICAN-Colorado: "You believe that he committed - you could charge the President of the United States with obstruction of justice after he left office?" ... Mueller: "Yes."_* ... _LOCK HIM UP!_
Amen
More like the Central Bankers and the CFR in the late 1970s and early 1980s. By the late 1990s half of America's factories/Mills were closed.
@@netzoned
Howes that panning out?
The best President I ever had in America best dealing always America First & protect American. God Bless America!!
I believe us Americans need to focus on school more.
Why so they can brainwash us all into being d*ckeat*rs?😂
MrChet407 - It depends on what aspect of “school” you are talking about. Of course the MS and HS systems in the US are significantly off based, and need change. Most importantly, we need to purge all political motivated teachers.
Mrchet407
We Americans.
Edukation iz veriy inportant.
School expenses going up and all these Walmart and dollar store employees are supposed to send their kids! Debt through the roof for an education you can’t use.
30:32 forced tech transfer
36:39 tech theft via hacking into companies
37:44 we need that market
49:17 "deferred maintenance"
This documentary kinda feels like that Michael Phelps quote, “Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners”
China has a winners mentality when USA has a mentality of wanting to destroy China.. not a mindset to have USA
We as Americans must focus on growth not destroying in order to continue to be a strong nation!
You people are already lose....Just to accept your lose and open the global economy now.....the hands of last many American leaders are dirty from the blood of Muslim kids in different Muslims countries for Oil and other resources and that's the ultimate cause of American downfall.....pray for more and more strength of China from Pakistan....Amen
@@hamrazahmad850 Sit down kid, Stop the chest thumping, china fkin owns all the central banks of pakistan.
Really good stuff Laura Sullivan and Frontline! Most American citizens won't watch Frontline, PBS, NPR. It's sad bc that's where we'll get honest mostly unbiased reporting.
Always be smarter than your enemy. 24x7 ~
Thank Obama for that. 8 yrs giving away rights, cash and lets any country rape the US
with trump and his brainwashed fanboys in control murica will have a hard time finding a country thats more dumb than they are, even underdeveloped 3rd world countries have a higher avg intelligence, so goodbye former world power. At least china doesnt bomb other countries justified with lies every 10 years, US even managed to lose all these wars. :D:D:D
@@daben7145 we can win the ones that matter, stop this proxy shit nuke Russia and china
China is NOT our enemy !
@@olpi71 that's the single stupidest thing I've read ever.
Nice documentary and well-balanced interviews. Good job.
通过投资购买技术正好利用了资本家的贪婪心理。做法虽然低劣但是有效。。
Biased interview. China steals. China is evil.
PBS does very great job and I agree with you. 👍
I like Laura the journalist, she is unbiased, calm and most importantly attentive listening.
She is great, professional, prudent and objective. She is an example to all journalists. I like her. Thumb up!
So unbiased that she can't say "President " Trump...
PBS is so underrated!. Great documentary 👍
Critical materials MUST BE BROUGHT BACK. This coronavirus has opened the eyes of most Americans.
Signs of malicious relationship/unfair exposure
To do this you need to start deregulating and having a deeper look in government blockers if you want manufactures back in America. Here is an example of what I mean:
If regulations force manufactures to pay more for production raising said market value product from $4.00 to $16.00 then said regulation probably needs amending because nobody is going to buy $16.00 worth of junk if $4.00 is standard price.
This $16.00 issue also goes into perception of labor pay because people might think the company is making 4x profit when in reality they are really making $0.50 profit per sale because of existing government demanded costs which leaves little growth in paychecks and when Unions decide to rise because of perceived growth and be denied because of reality. They will strike and force a massive loss to the manufacture.
This loss in labor participation combined with rising government enforced costs and shrinking market sales due to high priced products will lead to manufactures leaving or closing down again.
So it at least all starts with government deregulation or restructure of regulations to begin with.
Vice Montel it is the personal greed of big business and politicians who sell us out. China requires technology transfer to do business there and that transfer of technology plays a big part in our deficits. They take that technology to build their own products, apply tariffs to our products that’s for sale making our goods expensive there while we take in their goods with very low tariffs and sell it cheaply here.
@@jai6491 Yes they do and it is a huge issue that our government has allowed to occur, knowingly, by both sides. The only way to have stopped this is to push back with companies that deal with China, but it's already too late for that. IMO We can't do much to China because we, under the last 30 years, built China's economy from our own pockets and they used the money to make more money with other nations. The ship has sailed on stopping China economically if the other powers that be do not agree with stopping them and they don't because China already owns huge ports in those countries and has secured itself politically in the U.N. That's what I talked about having our government start with itself because honestly we can't do much to China anymore since both political parties opened their doors to Chinese offers.
28:00 Why is that difficult for Americans to understand?
Americans need to embrace their motto: 'All people are created equal'.
@Gregory Alfano There will be a level playing field when Chinese wages and standards of living are the same as that in the US. Likewise for the rest of the world.
Foreigners really need to stop trying to tell Americans what America is...
Just look at this moronic claim about what our motto is...
@Gregory Alfano Actually that quote is from the Decleration of independence not the US constitution.
So why is China allowed to steal while everybody else is punished?
"Land is still owned by China" While the US citizens are paying tens of thousands of property tax every year and no property tax in China.
I mean, land in China is owned by the Communist Party, no citizen in china has the same property rights that the US have.
@@heilnop8014 what right? paying tax? or stole by the banks like in 2008?
@@heilnop8014 That's not true, there are strong property protections in china, stronger than India. When a Chinese citizen refused to give up her land for road, government built road around her home. As an non-chinese( may be american) judging a country and people that you never visited is ignorent. Stop watching your billionaire controlled media, you are million times brainwashed than average chinese.
@Jason Fuller You people are sad, believing BS that you don't even know. I own property on both sides so I know the fact.
@@KaladarSTUCHH- My civilization is best. Once I ate bad fried rice and it came out better smelling than China or it's history.
We never had a president who understood so little and didn’t even bother trying to improve his level of understanding.
We do now with Joe Biden who can't even form a coherent sentence and gets confused when asked basic questions that even Grammer School students can understand and answer.
25:23 Chinese government support of WM Motor resulted in a factory being built from scratch in 16 months to produce 200K electric vehicles annually.
Meanwhile, our government is promising "coal jobs are coming back".
Jeez, no prizes for guessing how this ends.
@Gregory Alfano
Unemployment= under employed =3 jobs to pay bills
5 million jobs where??? Not for working class people maybe flippin' burgers. And yeah, training and school is exorbitant so don't say 'go to school, get training' and sh**t cuz it's unaffordable, and tons of people have degrees and still can't find a decent paying job.
Gregory Alfano. Butthurt you may be, but thems the facts.
@Ice Man but when talk of moving manufacturing out of China. the only countries mentioned are other low wage countries not the USA
@Matt R - Still butthurt over Horrible Hillary losing to a celebrity reality TV show real-estate billionaire. Leftist tears bring me such joy. Sore loser!
@@misuchimiss1161 Get out of that state you live in that's run by Democrats.
One thing I think they left out: how much the US government subsidizes certain industries. They only mentioned that China does so.
How much do you make as a Chi-Com apologist?
Thank you FRONTLINE PBS
Trump was right about one thing; these free trade deals were never about free trade. They were about free investment. MFN status for China has meant that American corporations can relocate their American plants to China where most of the production will take place and then send the finished goods to America. If we also sold American-made finished goods to China like our politicians led us to believe then it would be free trade. But America mostly sells raw materials to China that will be used to make the finished products imported to the US. It was all done in the name of profit maximization. And in many cases, prices for these goods did not decrease.
so? these american corporations who made trillion dollar from trading with China do not give you a UBI. Blame your politicians bro, not China
@@coshvjicujmlqef6047You obviously didn't read my comment very carefully. These corporations didn't make trillions trading with China; they made trillions investing in China. Big difference. And if you live in America then wise up man because it will affect you also if it hasn't already. And yes I do blame these bought and sold politicians.
They can just give a UBI like andrew yang does. Give every american $1000 per month. problem solved.
@@coshvjicujmlqef6047 $1000 per month is chicken feed. See how far that wil get you in a place like New York. Even in the Ozarks of Arkansas, I'm sure you can live like a king on a thousand buck a month...if you don't eat!
why would you live in new york when you can get your $1000 per month for free without working?
The old saying, "You're your worst enemy" comes to mind. A toxic cocktail of myopic corporate greed and equally myopic/ideological/idiotic Washington politicians on both aisles who shafted the
American worker/economy for what?
Samuel Kim. Hard to disagree with that.
What a documentary, a learning lesson for other countries including INDIA. Hats off to this Lady Anchor!!
why indian scammers are watching this channel ? poppowers
😂😂Yll ain't doin sh.t lmao
Your only Call scamming centers which will make you super power will shutdown soon
Me and Amazon has a huge trade deficit too, Amazon must be stealing my money
Not just amazon most corporations could care less about people livelihood as long they profit from misery of humanity....to protect we need more representation labor unions, lawyers...totake on these crooked robber baron capitalist who ship jobs oversees ans slave people by paying them pennies, non living wages. With few to no benefits, no social security.....
@是邪恶的习近平 It's called capitalism. They don't have to play fair.
You're definitely becoming poorer and weaker than Jeff Bezos..
One of the few smart remarks made...
What do you sell besides bullshit?
Chinese dude "we do not want to replace the us as the global superpower" same guy later on "I think china should be more powerful then the us"👌
I know we all look alike but It’s a different guy
There's plenty to go around if we do it right.
@@johnhuang3278 Your punctuation-or lack thereof-is all alike.
Opium wars - trade deficit
Trade wars - trade deficit
History repeated itself
that's true...but who's the bad guy ?:)
Andrei andrei CCP
@@food6374 u mean Center for Communication Programs
,
Community College of Philadelphia
,
Central Counterparty
,
Cities for Climate Protection
,
Cultural Center of the Philippines
,
Code of Civil Procedure ? :))
tobacco huge trade surplus that funded the early growth of america. and then cotton. and then steel.
I have always loved Frontline :)
Cary: Totally agree. I only watch PBS now a days because it is the most unbiased news source.
So true out of all the lies in 📺
I love it aswell. Frontline tells it the way it is!
@@lzkrishmom coming back to this after PBS covered Jan 06 and the role Trump played in it is so funny
@@Fukuro14 Jan 06 is more like scary!
China will provide cheap labor and build amazing building for your company in exchange for
Forced technology transfer (FTT)
Which means that when a foreign company wants to enter the Chinese market, it has to surrender its technology to Chinese companies through a joint venture agreement, or in some cases regulations.
awashlv A
If you want the mouth watering steak on display in the supermarket, you pay for it. Is it a forced payment. Yes, if you do not pay, you do not get. But nobody ever says "Walmart forces me to give money in exchange for the steak!" Unless he wishes to malign Walmart. Do you call the transaction FMT forced money transfer, you China basher.
@@jiaxiangchen6743 Forced technology transfer (FTT) is a practice in which a domestic government forces foreign businesses to share their tech in exchange for market access. ... When a company wants to enter the Chinese market, the Chinese government can compel the firm to share its technology with Chinese companies. So that's a fact, but it's the company's fault for allowing it and accepting the deal.
You can not called it force transfer if you walk away from the business dealing. You can keep your technology and set up a factory at home, which create jobs for American, a win for US economy. But the CEO has a duty to his shareholders and his own Christmas Bonus package. If you want his 25 million dollars bonus and expand and maintain the level of competition, he/she needs to reduce cost for a MUCH higher profit margin. This is basic economic 101 if you every took at any college level. Of course this will be at the expanse of America jobs and competitive edge in the long strategic plan. Unless you turn the clock back 200 years ago where America grow at the expense of slavery, where every white man had their filling of coins in the pocket while the slaves get whip for not working hard enough. Thank God
Bottom line...GREED built this issue. They could’ve kept those jobs here, but greed dictated everything.
@@jiaxiangchen6743 Horrible analogy.
I am five years late, in taking any interest in political activities, of our Government, so thanks for this posting ❤❤❤ THANKS John Barnett ❤❤
Omg, sound accompaniment so good, video montage also at very high level, facts are true and interviews are impressive - host, team and all who made this video possible - you did the great job!
FAKE NEWS< FAKE LIKES< FAKE COMMENTS TOO?
@@michaelweston7748 wtf?
@@turik97 Your nuts my friend, this was propaganda through and through, and you have no clue... CNN MUCH?
American business sold us down the river 50 years ago.m..when i grew up in the 60s early 70s steel was humming..
Loredo Mattoni and the government made it the best business decision unfortunately. We’ve got to change that.
Right because we had the cheapest and best steel in the world which everyone wanted! Before long we didn't have the cheapest, best steel anymore so many buyers looked elsewhere. That's capitalism. Why do you think it's the government's job to step in and spend taxpayers' money on these industries?
@Tyler Tone. Excellent point.
then the arabs found out how much Americans would pay for gas. we couldn't afford the gas to push a 2 1/2 ton car around. so the lighter cars used less steel
"Trump will turn on Xi" as if China is looking out for us. LoL
Trump is loyal to noone but himself!
Nicole Cordova wait Trump 2020/2024 is a Demoncrap Slaver when did that happen
We, apparently, need to act carefully & with highest negotiating skill.
Time to go do freedom of navigation all the way to hong kong ports
@@dividedconquered3784 bruh Trump has been the strongest president against china
Lol, trumps trade war was a total failure. When trump left office, the u.s. had the biggest trade deficit in our history.
But we gta give it up for this woman and her true journalism
Win win vs Zero sum mentality.
Zero sum mentality caused WWI and WWII.
Win win will lead the human race forward together.
@Thomas Headley free lunch to those that make it themselves, and there could be free lunch if all of the nation helped one another (america doesn't believe in helping others so they usually just starve if they can't pay)
@Thomas Headley actuall something as.... sympathy
Win Win is a Chinese joke on the world. Heads China Wins. Tails China wins.
@@douglascunningham6319 actuall win win means we chinese win twice...
Douglas Cunningham The peaceful advancement period of human race history is all about win win. But if you think there can only be one winning party then we will get you back to stone age. This is so real, Chinese is capable of produce 10k nukes within 2 years. I think we might have to just do that, in case there are too many idiots like you driving US democracy. We will show you what a lose lose looks like.
This is really about the failure of free-trade, and more broadly the failure of the economics of Neo-liberalism. American economic elites profited massively from the corporate globalization of supply chains, to the detriment of American Workers, and our standing in the world.
Amen
This.
The only reason that happened is also partially due to consumers demanding lower prices. The consumer as well as the corporations that complied w/ consumer demand for cheaper stuff by outsourcing the jobs, did this.
There are fundamental differences between the two countries, where China can make economic and political decisions top-down (expanding into tech, upgrading manufacturing, etc.) and the American system is bottom-up, where the everyday people are concerned about jobs, and politicians are elected to fulfill these needs by individuals. These people might have no knowledge of how America can develop and transform the economy anyway.
You have to come and live in America so you can understand the people your speaking of
Thanks! A great documentary from which I've learned a lot in strategies on how to overcome a global superpower without a gunshot or terrorism.
Hahaha funny man
This will all work itself out. Many will be unhappy, but they peed in their own bed. Snot my fault. Go China !! Go democrats !!! Go Biden !! Make us suffer. Make the lesson learned worth the result. Make communism the controlling factor for the communist people.
Slowly getting your rights sucked away. By those smarter than you. Believing all the crap the intellectuals tell you
My father was a machine engineer in the late 80s through the 90s. My father and his colleagues went to a Chinese factory to sell them a machine they had created to manufacture computer parts. The Chinese company bought 2 machines with the promise to buy more in the near future. Cool okay no problem. My father never heard anything back from them for a bit but when he went back for another business trip he decided to go back to that factory and see how they were doing and if they possibly needed more machines. My father walks in and he sees his machine in the back in pieces and he sees they just used it to reverse engineer and make their own.. totally ignoring all of the patents.. My dads company based in the US with US employees lost thousands due to them stealing their design.. They refused to sell the China ever again. He laughs about it now but it really hurt the company back in the day.
Very interesting thanks for sharing be safe! And most importantly enjoy your life.
True stealing technology and patents...
when you sold your workers for profit, there will be consequences. And yes, it is very "difficult for people in the United States to accept, right?"
@Jedi solo cheap Chinese craps had been helping billions of poor people who cant afford expensive stuff like you, very soon coming expensensive chinese stuff , oh yess i had bought one,
Cow boy time is gone,,, Kungfu dancing is coming,,,,,o yeahhh wait! Hold my beer ,,,
Fair reporting. Well done
The best documentary About trade war. Excellent Presentation
Amazon took your money and use the money to persecute Chinese people?
As the Chinese believe, “Patience is the ultimate virtue - and the only enduring standard of measure - of whomever purportedly considers himself a stable genius - supposedly even a Godsend.”
Charles Darwin would have intelligently attributed China’s long history in effective civil administration - based on institutional meritocracy - to the versatility of Chinese civilizational statecraft.
Evolutionary predominance is determined by the survivors - through time and tide.
Not by empty vessels.
If the “free market” owes its success to layers upon layers of “trade secrets”, how do the average consumers make rational *informed decisions?
Average consumers are made cannon fodder of Capitalist predators - in the escalating trade war.
According to the father of liberal economics, consumer interests should rule the free market.
Adam Smith:
ON THE DIVISION OF LABOUR…
1. It is the maxim of every prudent master of a family, never to attempt to make at home what it will cost him more to make than to buy…What is prudence in the conduct of every private family, can scarce be folly in that of a great kingdom.
…AND TRADE SPECIALISATION
2. By means of glasses, hotbeds, and hotwalls, very good grapes can be raised in Scotland, and very good wine too can be made of them at about thirty times the expense for which at least equally good can be brought from foreign countries. Would it be a reasonable law to prohibit the importation of all foreign wines, merely to encourage the making of claret and burgundy in Scotland?
ON COMPETITION…
3. In general, if any branch of trade, or any division of labour, be advantageous to the public, the freer and more general the competition, it will always be the more so.
4. Consumption is the sole end and purpose of all production; and the interest of the producer ought to be attended to, only so far as it may be necessary for promoting that of the consumer.
…AND THE DISTORTION OF TRADE
5. To widen the market and to narrow the competition, is always the interest of the dealers…
The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order, ought always to be listened to with great precaution, and ought never to be adopted till after having been long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but with the most suspicious attention.
It comes from an order of men, whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the public, who have generally an interest to deceive and even oppress the public, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it.
If you are Chinese maybe. But it doesnt blame the US companies enough. They are to blame for selling out communities for short term profits. Or predatory practises the Chinese have regarding govt support.
when the neighbour next door bought a new car
Yeah! When the neighbor next door stole your new car which you may have the possibility to buy it two years later in the future!: ). Good performance!
@1manuscriptman how could your neighbour STOLE something you have never had. a fake 5G logo works? you also ask FedEx to steal his mail?who is stealing?
Steve Bannon is correct, i am ethnic chinese from singapore (crazy rich asian country)and i agree with Steve , China CCP is a nazi like party aimed at achieve global domination . U want continue western democracy or socialistic autocratic 1 party state. no if no buts. it is best to elimate China just like Reagon eliminate the Soviet Commie Party
@@woonfaseng8737 If the US was interested in Western Democracy it would try first to adopt it in the US. As it is, few countries give less attention to the will of the people as in the US. You can't name a single law in 25 years that did not primarily benefit a lobbyist's employer inside or outside the US ot that mostly benefited regular citizens. Study after study on governance shows the influence-general citizens have over policy in the US is essentially Zero. That is not democracy. When Saudi Arabia or Israel have a perfect record of getting what they want from the US and citizens have no such influence it is a matter of self-deception to call the US a democracy. The press keeps saying China is a dictatorship but look at the improvement in the quality of life for even the poorest Chinese has taken place in the last 10 years. China has become the biggest consumer market in the world, the largest number of people who travel internationally for leisure, the biggest car market, biggest electronics and appliance market. Subsistence farmers 10 years ago are taking international vacations and have a savings rate of 56% of their income and far higher PPP than Americans. They live in the most modern cities in the world with excellent low-cost public transport and every village in the country now has high-speed internet and electricity. In only 15 years China has built the most modern high-speed rail system in the world covering every region
@@woonfaseng8737 if only it was that easy.....
Wow great to see Laura Sullivan ! Her documentary on affordable housing had a huge impact on my view on the issue. Keep up the good work PBS !!
These people didn't watch enough motivational videos : " Stop worrying others are becoming better than you , Become better than yourself today ! " Why trying too hard to go around suppressing other rising countries ? It will do us nothing good whenever we tried to suppress others.
Very informative ...
Thanks for the perspective unknown to most of the individuals residing outside of united states of America....
There is a time and a place for everything under the sun .this is China's time ...
PBS, DW and Arté - the only channels that always save the day in isolation.
so what Frountline is saying is Trump is fighting to keep his promises
PBS needs to improve it's journalism, which sucks a big one at present. The worst enemy of the American worker is the American media. The elephant in the room is not the economy but the fact that the china model is totalitarianism and fascism. If you look up the dictionary definitions of both of those terms.
It's a sad fact that we coming back in the 21st century to what we thought we defeated with Nazi Germany in the 1940s
That is the model that China is following they're doing under the name of communism and they claim they are doing it for the people,
but in fact they're really for the elites and they're working for themselves and their small group of guys in the politburo, not for the regular people.
Exactly! Trump 2020 is a fact.
That china official was looking really shisty
No its saying tRump is an idiot but we already knew that
@slap mcgilis I already regret that he's an idiot. No one has denigrated the constitution more than the idiot
I am firmly in the Democrat camp, but I fully acknowledge that Trump was far more firm with other countries than most presidents. That is one thing i liked about his presidency and i have zero problems taking that point to my Democrat friends.
Buuuut, I am concerned about the over emphasis on America being No. 1 forever. The cost of pissing off every other country to achieve that doesnt seem worth it.
U.S. capitalism, "greed is good" well "greed" is killing you, "don´t mess with that market" "i need that market" LOL
'Crony' capitalism (Obozo's favorite game).
If capitalism is greed, socialism is jealousy then
Yes we need to turn off this exploding everything is sight during movies. And learn the art of love and botherhood, caring for others simply because we all will have the same end we are all americans.
Rob RedeyedPumpkin A noble goal my friend, but unfortunately in this day and age it is all about greed and fucking over other people to get what you want, others be damned!
It will be the end of us
buzzclick500 communism for the wealthy, its free market capitalism for everyone else
One day a month we need to clean up our inner cities. They don't have to be new, just clean and respectable, or safe.
No one is stopping you from bringing trash bags and starting on your own Frank. How about Detroit to begin?
When you see Steve is the commentator, you know where is this film heading to.
The best content on American politics by far🎉
Can we talk about automation being in direct conflict with the labor-for-survival economy yet?
@Joshua Hanson everything you said is according to plan.
life
Outstanding work by this journalist.
brilliant propaganda. retards drool while slow clapping.
The best documentary I have seen in long time.
Looking back and listening to this I now understand what is happening. 🤧
This was very interesting an very informative
Chinese have their own rules and play their own rules.
So. Stay in china.
@@rickrocafort1658 ye, but since you guys wanna earn some Chinese money. Kneel down then
@@easterbuny2226 nah, the West invest and move business to China for profit, let's not pretend companies from the West are charities. China have what these companies want and the companies have what China wants, its simple trade, capitalism even. Just that China played it better since they have much more money and much desired product (the 1.4billion market). They didnt take your freedom, your companies choose to sell out for profit, the very thing China is wary of from big corpos, that's what you get from capitalism market. You win some, you lose some. You get great commerce but you will also lose stuff because its simply profitable to do so
@@rickrocafort1658 Man that is just naive.
Tough negotiators as well.
Planned economy VS liberalism... how can the US win?
the idea is not to win the plan is to go down and take mostly everyone else with them apart from that which is between the 2rivers and what is very close by also,,,its the powershift...america has served its purpose,,or did you buy all that crap about land of the free and home of the brave,?the serpent connects england america and israel,
@@ilyaskhan-cm7mh ???
Born in East Germany I wonder why we failed with planned economy back then whereas China is so successful with it now. Probably because the 16 Million East German people market was a bit smaller than the 1.3 Billion Chinese market. Plus their leaders are obviously much more clever ;-).
America is Corporate Socialism with its “Leaders” having little regard to the rank & file. BTW a “level playing field” is not a capitalistic concept. It’s a sporting metaphor that is ironic at best
My dad left america because of this, and lived a miserable life here in primitive nz..someone should pay for doing this, and its just continue...50yrs scumbags...
Basically what I learned is the US model unraveled all by itself. They wanted to have it both ways and were short-term greedy for new markets. Market fundamentalists always need new markets right? Growth beyond anything. The US government was half-run by these exact same CEOs. China expertly exploited this relationship for years, always kowtowing to whatever lectures and accusations came at it, saying "oh yeah you're right, oh big daddy US. Teach us more please". And then the US couldn't keep it's own house in order, the economy tanked in 2008 and the entire US model came crashing down in the years after. China is not biting it's tongue anymore. Well played China, well played.
spot on
And Trump has been warning about this for almost 40 years. I believe this is partially the reason he floated the bi yearly corporate reporting instead of quarterly.
They are a paper dragon
Sad to admit but I blame the American CEOs for f****** up or country
Also the American economy has been very oil and gas industry dependent and the rest of the planet is moving away from that
Frontline, thank you for your superb and intense reporting around the world...you all get the truth...the "Real Story!" I've been a fan for over 15 years! 👌😊
Steve Banon is crazy
Trump was man who thinks by himself, and he did not let anybody to talk what he needs to do! Respect from Serbia!
Whoever takes care of Steve Bannon's wardrobe is sleeping on the job. I guess it's himself.
Why are you calling this a trade war? unbalanced trade has never been sustainable throughout history.
Because both sides are fighting, placing tariffs, it's not complicated.
@@stylz1 Anyone who has been to a war zone does not use this word lightly, If a trade agreement can not be met by both sides tariffs are the result, trade must be somehow balanced to continue any length of time, think of a balance scale if this sounds complicated.
" All ' s fair in love and war " , And International Economic Hegemony .
i agree and not sure what hegemony
I'm not an expert in anything however during Trump's trade war my 401k was doing amazing, the cost of goods at the store was literally half of what it is now and we were not abandoning our allies to torture and death, no one was watching Afghans plummet to their deaths from the landing gear of planes to escape the terrorists. Intellectuals can debate all they want I intend to trust my eyes.
You are smart
Vote trump 2024!
Great coverage. The Recession of 2008 was the turning point for the American middle-class as well as exposed US weakness to global competitors.
It began with Reagan and trickle down economics. We've been going downhill ever since.
@@steppenwolf3252 Reagan is not to blame as well
Can't prevent others from having dreams and working on achieving them. Only option is to work harder to remain on top
Well they shouldnt have corrupt dreams and not steal intellectual property from america to become number 1!
Stealing only applies to petty crimes. If countries can be accused of stealing America in itself is stolen property
We can prevent them from doing that if said dreams involve cheating, stealing, and lying to get ahead.
@@Aristocles22 All those accusations perfectly describe America
@@nzappazapp8360 They really don't. We don't steal Chinese intellectual property, we punish liars when we catch them, and we all hate cheaters.
The great greatest leader of the 21st century. President Donald Trump of the United States.