Melee is Broken
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- EDIT: This video isn't meant to be taken seriously nor is it meant to be an argument to why Melee is bad or anything similar. Please don't fight about what Smash is the better, that wasn't the point. I just wanted to showcase some mechanics of Melee that may not be well known to newer people in the community. Melee's my favorite game and this channel is based on melee, so I hope it's clear that I'm not trying to steer people away from Melee.
People who don't play Melee probably don't know how broken it really is. Don't worry, I'm here. I'll tell you :)
Also Melee is not a bad game, so don't get the wrong idea from this video.
Thank you so much for watching. I know a lot of Melee players know most of this stuff, but this video is aimed towards the people who don't play as well. I also know this format is a bit different from what I usually do, since I want to experiment a little. Comments if you enjoyed it or not are appreciated as I want to make sure if this style is ok. With that out of the way, again thanks for 10 (Now 11) thousand subscribers. I never believed I'd reach that milestone in such a short amount of time. All the support truly means a ton. I don't have any other way to show my appreciation other than trying to make better videos for you guys. Thanks for everything.
Twitter: / heeewwwin
Thanks to TwinTails on Smashladder for wobbling me
Fun fact: Tripping in Brawl was never intended, what actually happens is that a Marth from Melee grabs you for a split second.
:O
Oh snap datz sick
Yea he grabs you from across games
Really?🤨
Tripping is like real life when you run you have slight chance of tripping but the real purpose of random tripping is to balance the game out due to a technique called “dash dancing” which very easy to perform by run left and right quickly.
Finally, someone says it. Now we can move onto a real competitive game like Shrek Super Slam
Personally I prefer to show my competitive skills on playstation all stars
NOOO!!! To OP!
No mention to Clay Fighter? Casual plebs..
My main is Anthrax, Luna and Puss in Boots.
what?
Lul when i tried learning L cancelling i actually practiced on G&W.
I felt so stupid.
You can still L-Cancel his fair and dair
I thought I was the only one!
Dat profile pic matches that comment way too well.
Wralth Chardice well duh. It's because he's too cool.
It's cuz he's black. Racist game
0:43 Marth destroys the game by dodging sideways in a side scrolling game.
SonicStephen Plays 2.5d game
RNG blessed him
Marth dodged a 99
Ultra Instinct Marth
@@myonlul1796 DUN DUN DUN DUN
The best move in the game is obviously Zelda's Down B. No other move can turn a Bottom Tier Character into a Top Tier Character.
I think Jigglypuff would be low tier without her bair...
Roy reverse up b is a ohko
Davor Šipek but none of his other moves do shit
I doubt low tier, maybe mid tier
Conversely, Shiek's Down B is arguably the WORST move.
The reason to G&W's lack of l-canceling is due to a bug in the code that displays those aerials as b-moves
wat are you serious
yeah mon
game and watch master race
Any chance you know why you can escape Kirby's throws? Or why G&W's shield is so bad?
I like hearing why certain things work the way they do.
+The Chad Daniels Kirby's grab is registered as a command grab which means its escapable
Some of the AI in Melee is Broken too.
Like when I started the battle with Mewtwo to unlock him, guess what he did?
He teleported Underneath the stage and Killed himself!
Even worse with Luigi: He *never* use his Up-B for recovering. Instead, he just his Side-B which itself isn't wrong but without gaining height, doesn't really help in most cases.
In fact, there are videos which shows that you can win against anyone without any input ("Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing") against level *9*s! And no, quite a few stages which were (mostly) hazard-free.
mewtwo in both sm4sh and melee have suicide problems
in either games I play in almost every match with mewtwo he at least kills himself once
I remember playing through Classic mode on hard, and when I got to Link, he just stood there for 30 seconds. He also randomly stopped fighting at times.
tracy lieber I have seen that in sm4sh
Idk, I've seen it a lot in Melee, which I have played less than sm4sh, and none in sm4sh
there's definitely a gap between how common it is
Now, we need a bonus feature where we can have a fight between:
- 64 Kirby
- Melee Fox
- Brawl Meta Knight
- 4 Bayonetta
If we're going by which character is the highest in each tier list, 64 would be Pikachu
Brawl Meta Knight would win. Yeah Kirby and Fox have excellent combo game, and Bayo can one combo you. But Meta Knight can turn invincible.
Seriously. He can just time you out.
*Shame he has to go to the shadow realm to do it.*
Brawl meta knight wins against all of them
Ultimate Game&Watch (or pre-patch Pichu)
@@diogoayres7953 eh game and watch is only high tier.
Melee is busted: Luigi doesn't have his own voice
@Kellan Watson is this satire
Kellan Watson Luigi? that’s a weird way to spell green mario
@Kellan Watson Ever heard of 'A Joke'
@Kellan Watson Lol. You're probably like 8 years old
@Kellan Watson Yeah i never saw you in my life. So what? XD
On the plus side, this is the highest Ganondorf has ever been on a tier list.
and the lowest to the blastzone
Brawl: *cries in the corner*
@@WizardFolfo5284 there can be only one
@@Quinnsicott oh really?
@@WizardFolfo5284 yes, i will destroy you, other josh
"Melee isn't perfect and neither is any game." Have you ever heard of Hotel Mario?
LOL
Your profile pic goes so well with your comment and that makes it even funnier 😂😂😂
@@saiprimal98 Well that statement aged poorly, unfortunately-
I hope there’ll be lotsa spaghetti!
At least better than wand of Gamelon...
I’ve watched this enough times now that my brain has sort of accepted this pitched-up version of Coconut Mall as the real one, I’m building immunity
I hate it
Thanks, I've searched for what this song is called and u are a godsend lol
Hey you guys didnt deliver my package to Pandora. You just knocked over my tree
I just noticed the differnt pitch lol
it sounds happier
it makes me happy
what a cool video humor on point, he went and dug up the visuals all around good show chap
Thanks, yeah going around and getting the clips took sooo long
stop being so british
+Heeew So what's your reason for liking Melee?
It took sooo long to nut
+Hero of Hyrule Its fast and deep
Melee players be like: "It's not a glitch, it's a feature"
BuT iT iS a FeAtUrE
It’s not a glitch
FloOfficialYT you actually just got whooshed
But did he?
r/wooooooshception
If Melee has been released on a modern console, in this exact state, it would be patched faster then you can say “it’s intended.”
And that would be a crying shame
Yea I remeeber when Smash for 3ds and Wii U came out, it feels like everyday people say "patch this or patch than" at the end even Sakurai came out and say he will patch the game his way not the way fans are demanding.
Right 🤣🤣
Which is why it's the perfect game, made at a perfect point in time for a reason, nothing like it will exist ever again. We are very lucky, be grateful human.
@@itzsomos7052 I feel like this is woooosh bait but how can you look at this video and still say it's a perfect game?
The reason why Mr.G&W cant L-Cancel all of his aerials is because due to an oversight (and time restraints as he was one of the last characters made) by the developers. The game thinks that Mr.G&W’s N-Air, B-Air, and U-Air are Special attacks, and because you can’t L-Cancel special attacks results in this.
The game is still broken, just thought that people would know
Also because Mr. Game & Watch can’t get cancelled because he has no Ls
(Sorry I just had to make that pun)
Bruh HAL is dumb-dumbs.
you forgot EVERYTHING that pichu does.
nair, upsmash
+Cereza Uthrow.
well sakurai did say that pichu was supposed to be made that way.
I actually played Pichu once as a joke.
I murdered everything.
Pichu can be good if you time everything and dodge perfectly.
oh my god finally no more 48 fps comments
Gr8 b8 m8. How bout ya go play some smash 8!
48 fps
48 FPS? FPS= Flower Power Sunshine.
Don't you mean 48 Foxes Per Shine?
You should make one of these for each smash game, keep up the good work.
Insult brawl or ssb4 and everybody laughs...insult melee and everybody goes batshit crazy. God I hate Melee Elitists.
Actually all the Melee players love this video. You're delusional.
+Skeemac Ok thanks for asking EVERY melee player bud.
+Satsuki Kiriyuin
Youre great.
+Skeemac I was referring to the annotations. It clearly suggests that at one time they didn't. Let's set up a scenario shall we? Pretend the annotations weren't there. Will you still be laughing? The video is pretty serious and it kind of brings up good points. What you are saying by your comment is that you would know it was joking and you would be laughing. Not only that, but you are suggesting that there wouldn't be more dislikes than likes in this scenario. I seriously doubt that this would be the case.
Tobi Uchiha You can edit your comment, you know.
6 MILLION VIEWS.
LET THE VIEWS COME IN
Congrats heeew!
Let it
pog
Champ
Surprising how this video just keeps on growing over the years.
Then again, I’m pretty sure it’s safe to this is one of those timeless videos that’ll never go away.
Keep the good stuff coming Heeew
So one day I was sitting in my house in the US. When suddenly, I go flying out of my house and across the Pacific. I knew what was going on; it had been happening for a week by now. As I stopped, I noticed that I was in a nice Japanese home. It seemed quite nice. But then, I looked upwards. It was him again.
Marth.
Marth had grabbed me again
EDIT (10/28): Why and how does this have almost 1500 likes, I made a shitty Marth grab range joke
Shit you too man? I've paid $2,000 in trips back home because of Marth
I melted going through Earth's core because of Marth.
Marth the free transporter
Funny marth joke
Inside the Japanes home did Marth atleast help you remove your shoes?
Everyone has a favorite Smash Bros. game, and you know what? That's perfectly okay. So long as a game brings you endless hours of happiness, fun, and entertainment, that's all that matters.
I love you.
yeah but lets be real here Brawl was the best game Kappa123
i really liked brawl
Classic. The bland, socially unacceptable, "you're not allowed to concede or be nice for any reason on UA-cam" response.
Treat others how you want to be treated, "unknown."
+Alex Wootton People hate the fanbase more than the games so yah
H-e-e-e- wait......
H-e-e-w
#HEEW
Will travel #HEEW
het
Roy: cuts fox in half
Fox: *unphased*
Yeah technically he only tackles people as the activation window ends as he starts to raise his sword
Similar thing with falcon he had a third hit box like in 64 but it just doesn’t come out due to activation frames
Another quality video as always :D
Thanks :)
My two faves together at last
I hope both my senpais notice my replying to both senpais.
hello. I like your videos
HOLY SHIT!!!! LUVDIX!!!! HOLY SHIT!!!! BEST CHANNEL!!! POISEGJP(GPH(WE*GHWEP(*HGUQWPUHWRPHGPSPHGPS_)_+_+)_+)_+)+_)(+_)(*&)+(*^&$%)^(*+*&(*%)*&)_!!!
Im gonna be completely honest... in did not know G&W was in melee
Jacob Byrd That’s how irrelevant he is in this game lmao
Jacob Byrd It's not your fault. He's the most boring character in every smash game. lol
I love game and watch ;u;
Same lol
Since when is he in melee? I’m looking at it but I still don’t believe it
*Shine into Shine is a true combo that only professionals pull off.*
Heewww is a pro now?
+Keurgui1 guess so
i can do it I suck
Its not that difficult with practice
shine into shine isn't even a good option lol. i know this video isn't serious but all the people who complain about this stuff are scrubs who don't play melee
“Wait, it’s broken?”
“Always has been.”
you probably should have said "it's all broken ?" tho
Its perfect
20 years broken. Breaking record.
#ouch
@@krizpyclips9270 it’s definitely not lol
@@benhamilton3671 Just telling these Melee player haters what it is and where it hurts. Ouch and they got these games were if they activate their character specials it'll interrupt everybody's game combos due to an entry lol. Yeah they're game combos due to an entry!!! Yeah, I understand why they're hating they're game sucks. I'm glad this was my first Smash Bros game.
#LongLiveMelee
#20yearsstrong
#PerfectGame
#Thebestgameever
"Luigi pressed A so my combo is your combo"
It‘s like Pyro’s airblast from TF2. “Pyro pressed M2 so my projectile is your projectile”
@@EnoughCactus well combos are to melee what a crocket is to tf so yeah
Look at all these techniques I can't pull off...
Same. Brawl player for life.
Shizzle Somebody understands me
Brawl 4 life!
HOLY CRAP CASUAL SMASHERS EXIST?!?!?!
Caleb Jaaniste Smash 4 is where it's at
every character is actually reasonably balanced. They all have this true combo. First, you press start. Then you press L, R, Start, and A simultaneously. This will send both you and your opponent to a new screen that allows you to move this coin that represents you, and put it over a box with a picture of fox.
Your Brother if you could bring me back to the video that made that joke that'd be great. I can't seem to find it again
vzReo the one with Hax$?
Your Brother So you're gonna wanna find fox..
vzReo dunno if you found that video by now but it was "How to Win Falcon vs. Fox Everytime ft. Hax$"
Markk F damn thanks man
Smash community is broken.
Hella fucking broken yeah
broken
@max Lmao fr *Smash is a game for kids*
@@AverageCatz Then why are you here?
@@Shadow404x Look at the comment he replied to
Melee machine 🅱roke
Rishi el paisano understandable, have a Falco down air
understandable have a nice dair
No its busted and on fire...... And that guy there is on fire
That sucks ,🅱it whatever
It's not broke it asploded
"Captain Falcon can win national tournaments"
What they don't know is that Falcon is simply unviable
***** Unviable? That ain't Falco
***** Having a situational bad recovery doesn't mean that a character is bad. Falco's the second best character in the game, only behind Fantastic Mr. 20XX himself.
falco is as high as 1 and low as 3
falco has no losin gmatch ups
I liked Brawl...
*Gets crucified*
dude the subspace emissary was the shit.
if only project m was compatible with it.
The G-Wing it is...
game crashes whenever you use squirtle, the fight against wario in the ruins is unplayable, etc.
The G-Wing for real??? I thought it was clean cause people do the LP’s on YT??
Noah McMurrer might have been an earlier version. Mine's 3.6 waluigi edition (with ridley replacing pit) i think it's something to do with the separation of the Pokemon trainer into 3, but wario i have no clue
W-wow. Some of these are just...Wow.
Yoshi's grabs literally miss the target, and Marth's regular grab outranges it. G&W's shields don't even cover him... I just.......wow...
Aegix Drakan yeah and chroms up b used to kill him second. Meta knight could use 9 up airs from max jump height. Bayo 0-deaths melee is a lot less Jank than brawl or sm4sh
Fwuffycodbunny yeah yeah
Epic Gamer find a shield that fails to protect at max size, a grab that can miss or a grab you can jump out of in any smash game after melee
Mr. Moncayo sure! In ultimate Rosa used to be able to p poked at full shield health, and oilmar too. In smash 4 Pac-Man grab would consistently miss.
Epic Gamer fair enough
Laughed tears when I saw that Marth-Yoshi hitbox thing at 0:36
Although funny, it only happened that way because Yoshi's nose was particularly sticking out. Try repeating the test, but have a "straighter" character in Yoshi's place.
@@RedHairdo BREAKING: Yoshi confirmed gay
I was like, "what?"
This is still not alright...
“This game is balanced”
Only 6 viable characters
Me: Shit ain't adding up.
"Sm4sh is balanced"
Only 1 viable character
Brawl is a good game
Spanky Pants technically melee has only 1 viable character
If you take out Bayonetta from the list then yeah it's easily the most balanced. But either way she isn't Brawl Meta Knight or Melee Fox.
I fucking lost it at Marth's grab range holy shit
SAME LOL the way it cuts off makes it 10x better
There’s a meme vid about it
Any Yoshi's Island game: Yoshi's tongue shoots out a long distance, easily grabbing things out of reach to normal people
Smash: Yoshi's tongue is shorter than a toddler's arm
Still exceptionally long for a tongue tho
Unless you’re an aardvark idk
I love how much you've triggered the Melee fanbase. It's absolutely delicious.
Melee Hell*
This channel is part of the melee community. He's just pointing out the stupid things.
John Smith I never said his channel wasn't.
Are your johnsons beginning to stir?
+ExperienceLOS7713 omg guise look I'm trolling top kek
There's more people being rational in the comments talking about the video rather than being triggered. In fact, your comment almost gives off the impression you are just extremely butthurt over something yourself, as if related to Melee players over something that you just can't get over with. Another grievous Sm4sh player, perhaps?
Video was enjoyable, but you've basically just given smash 4 kids ammo and or confirmation bias to use in their arguments over why melee sucks.
Also, I disagree with some of the moves listed being broken, like chaingrabs and fox's up throw up air.
When I was making this video, I thought people wouldn't take this video seriously, but I knew in the back of my head some would. I'm hoping that if they try to say these mechanics make Melee a bad game, that they realize each iteration of Smash has an equal amount of their own problems.
And yeah, some of the stuff on the video doesn't deserve to be called broken, but I made this alone so I was bound to have some unnecessary stuff listed since my opinions can't always be good.
Thanks Daniel, appreciate it.
and the end of the video also tells the sm4sh kids to STFU by saying and neither is any game (this phrase indirectly includes smash 4 in the "its not perfect" statement)
Heeew I still love it, just like all your other videos ^-^
luigi's n-air being included like... lol
Jigglypuff: can damage opponents without touching them.
DK: doesn’t damage opponent if he doesn’t touch them.
Roy: cannot damage opponents even if his sword goes through them.
GypsySprite r/woooosh
Maybe in NTSC versions, in Pal versions everything is ok with Roy. :)
As a fan of Roy and a main user in melee... This explains a lot.. i got screwed lol
Seems fair...
First is Mini Brain
Second is Smart Brain
Third is "Too smart for good moves/hitboxes" Brain
Melee players would look at this and say "Yes, and that's the beauty of it."
it’s true
Yes sir
i am confusion facts, Melee fanboys can obsess over the game but at least admit how much of a broken mess it and it’s not as good as they make it out to be
@@donathan2933 To be fair for ages it was either play Melee, 64 or the Meta Knight express.
Lord V1LE oh fuck outta here with that shit, Fox was broken af in Melee everybody knows that
Falco's dair should've been on here lol. That angling is just as bad if not worse than Shiek's fair
It's a meteor, what do you expect?
Versace Bentley IT LASTS FOREVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Thejbomber 14 Falco's is basically a vertical Sheik f-air though lol
+Versace Bentley its not broken, its just really good
It's not a meteor, it's a spike. You can't meteor cancel falco's dair.
tetris might be the perfect game because
1. you cant possibly add another 4 block (all balanced)
2. the simplistic game format cant really be matched
3. how would you improve it
it might be the perfect game
how about a mode where if you can last long enough you can actually win
there already is its called ultra mode
Make it 3D?
+ImHealthyWC Tetris on virtual boy
+ImHealthyWC it exists
"Melee isn't perfect and neither is any game." You have clearly never heard of Veggie Tales Veggie Checkers.
Edit: Holy crap the likes.
The perfect counter argument.
The Backyardigans game for the NDS is better.
Wrong: flushed away, gamecube edition
Wrong: Veggie Tales Roblox edition
BushBoi Wrong Again: Veggie Tales Minecraft Battle Royale Edition: owned by EA
“Yoshi is only able to get top 8”
the Amsa in question:
People ignore the flaws in their games, and claim it to be "flawless."
What they should be doing is acknowledging the flaws, and love the game _in spite of those flaws._
Preach, my dude. Preach.
They say the flaws are nothing but perceivable perfection. Ugh
Too damn true
Very well said
Im pretty sure melee players like the flaws more than the game xD
CONGRATS ON 4 MILLION VIEWS
I was gonna saw that >:)
@@sharongardner2828 saw
That's *Broken*
@@IvyTheBarista What is?
Cody Smith The amount of views he got was *Broken*
1:38 -. 1:40
Nerves of steel on that Fox
He knows that Donkey Kong sucks so he has no reason to fear.
Nerves of gas XDDD
I've got balls of steel
What about the fox that was phased after Roy literally cut him in half?
Isn’t it crazy this guy started a whole trend of videos accidentally? Like this video is kinda monumental for video game content on youtube
Congrats on 1,000,000 views Heeew!
Thanks man, this is seriously crazy :D
possibly the only melee vid that has achieved this feat in my knowledge. Congrats and hope you gain more.
how does he have one billion views if the world has only seven million people
Luis Silva This isn't a billion, it's a million
tape wombo combo on yt research bar to see
Melee is the most perfect accident i could have ever asked for.
I wish I was a good accident
I was an accident.
well this comment thread got pretty depressing...
+Vegeta troll much?
enough said... anyone who believes brawl or tr4sh are better, are obviously clueless about melee and have no skills or talent to handle it and play it properly, 16 years laters, melee is on dream hack, Evo...
This comment section is a god damn warzone.
More like a day care full of smash 4 kids who want a perfectly balanced game when they really don't
NintenTwister I feel like the only melee fanboys are the kids that have never played the game at all
NintenTwister Ikr? Melee players just say that they don't play Smash 4 and nothing about how bad it is
NintenTwister I mean Brawl has its good qualities, but I'm trying to get into both Melee and Smash 4 atm
NintenTwister Melee is more of a casual thing for me though
Melee Purist: Fox's shine is the best move in the game
Me: Do you use it to reflect projectiles?
Melee Purist: *WHEEZE*
viable kill move go brrr
yea its pretty great at reflecting things and good for denying pressure from peach
Melee Purist: No, we use it to reflect fighters
@@kaja3932 MissingNo. chilling on screen bc link dry-fired his bow: no, no you don't.
Melee Players: wait, it can reflect?
Everyone: We have a long grab range!
Marth: Hold my infinite-length everything
Marth: Actually, let me hold that for you.
Marth'd grab is 4-dimensional, which is why we percieve it as infinite.
The elitists call Melee the best game because it has an extremely high skill ceiling - one that is reached by using countless glitches, physics exploits, and sometimes even physical defects in the controller. It is definitively a broken game.
Or people just enjoy the game.
Eh... Master the game in whatever way possible I guess.
It's still an amazing game. Rather kill someone with a broken technique than be killed off a stupid trip that's BUILT in the game. *cough cough BRAWL cough cough*
Swordie 14 “Amazing game”. I’m killing myself now
Amazing game my ass, it's as much of a mess as any other Smash game.
3:38 "Able to win BIG tournaments"
*Lists ICs, Falcon, Samus and Pika*
true tho, not in america but in other countries those characters have won...
welp up until 2010 3 out of those 4 characters had won more big tournaments than fox
An Ice Climbers player got second at EVO, a Pikachu got 3rd at both Sandstorm and Press Start, both huge tournaments with stacked top players, and a Samus got 5th a Evo, beating arguably the best Fox at the time. I don't see what's wrong with saying they can win big tourneys
Oh and also Falcons have recently been breaking top 8 more than ever, with Wizzrobe taking fourth at dreamhack, and n0ne beating m2k, currently the best sheik in the world. And sheik is arguably falcons worst matchup. And n0ne is ranked 58th in the world.
+Seank7 I'm not saying they CAN'T win majors, I'm just saying since they haven't yet so it's not really right to list them. I know Axe places high with Pikachu, HugS got 2nd at Evo 2007 and Duck+Plup frequently beat Leffen, Wobbles got 2nd at Evo 2013 and Fly got 2nd at Press Start, and Falcons have been generally placing high as of late too. But if any of them have actually won a notable major please let me know cause I might be missing something.
**snickers**...Zelda's best move is Down-B! Guys, youre supposed to laugh.
AquIvan dude ur pretty charismatic and funny you should be come a comedian
@@willdg8108 You genius. I can be a comedic gamer
AquIvan swag and epic
Not anymore, now shiek is the worse one.
And down b is also sheik's worst move
Hearing Foxes Voice Line For When He Dies is oddly satisfying
BonkeyKongo Please Stop Typing Like This, It’s Insanely Annoying
@@marshmellow9281 lol
@@marshmellow9281 Why Tho Lol
Do You just Randomly Pick Out what To capatalize And what Not To
shut Up
Honestly Melee elitists piss me off. Melee is by far my favorite in the series (it's the only one I'm good at), but it's definitely far from perfect.
Thank you.
amen
mazda9624 Preach!
The broken horseshit is why "pros" stick to melee. It's easy to exploit.
Forte of Gray so it a game so that I can pretend I'm good but im shit in any other smash games?
0:37
I guess you could say that Yoshi can't STOMACH the fact that his grab is so bad.
I thought you died
Memers don't have to capability to die.
(Mercy's voice) Memers never die!
Yoshi: Make that 11/26
True combo fox :
Shine > shine > shine > shine > more shine
*Waveshine
Y e h
The Chesse'r
I think you forgot to add even more shine
H I Y A H
Not true with good SDI
And then everyone is gonna say "But understanding this stuff is what separates the casuals from the pros. They're mechanics, not bad design, glitches, or anything like that.".
Side special through the ground is definitely a mechanic
You just predicted the future. Sir, what are tommorows lottery numbers?
+Ascend It still doesn't matter. It's an exploit.
***** Why the hell are you defending that?! Are you that devoted to the Melee hell club?!
*****
WEVE GOT AN ELITIST, SOUND THE ALARMS.
And people say Smash 4 has jank...
(which it used to have, but most of it has been patched out)
Smash 4 IS jank
Corn Eilious Other than set knockback bullcrap, I don't think it has that much. Unless you wanna count customs, that shit is broken af.
And some of the weird knockback when hitting ledges on certains stages.
CLOUD AND BAYONETTA!!!
Thiro DSmash
It really depends what you find janky.
For me its all the wind/push boxes, footstools, the silly ledge mechanics (i know this one's subjective), every character has ridiculous recovery(except Mac), every character snaps to ledge from like 10 ft away, the rage mechanic, KO punch, Villager in general, and Rosalina in general. Thats just everything off the top of my head. The rest is mostly character specific stuff.
Dont get me wrong, Melee is still janky as hell. Especially when you get in to the lower tier characters. but smash4 is just as, if not more janky imo...
2:10 that freaking cut-off of Luigi’s “YIPPEE!” 🤣
A lot of this is probably due to the two year development cycle and Sakurai and his team working overtime to try and get it done for the Gamecube's launch. It's remarkable that the game turned out so well being so rushed, especially when other games are rushed and they end up being like Sonic 06.
jakespidermonkey1994 like it only had 13 months, which enabled it to have some overpowered stuff that was easy to exploit, but that made one of the best smash games ever, because it was extremely fast paced and fun to watch.
jakespidermonkey1994 it was 13 months as far as I’m aware, that just makes it even easier for oversights to slip through the cracks
jakespidermonkey1994 not two years, 13 MONTHS
@@juliesears1275 Oh ok. I don't remember where I read that it was two years, but 13 months makes more sense.
But Melee's glitches are interesting and cool.
Sonic 06 though is a WHOLE another story, just garbage... Sonic 06 belongs to trash..
Luigi with his nair is like "Skidadle skidine, your combo is now mine"
"Burn the baby, use as gravy"
Smash Ultimate: Everyone is here!
Smash 4: Everyone is viable!
Brawl: Everyone is tripping!
Melee: Everyone is Fox!
Smash 64: ???
Marth grabbed Smash 64’s “Everyone is” and brought it to Melee
Smash 4: Everyone is Bayonetta
Smash 64: Everyone's in hitstun
Lmao what Smash 64 deserves “everyone is viable” Sm4sh has the second lowest ratio of viable characters in a Smash game
Smash 64: Everyone is gone! :c
1:48 maybe he just cut him in half so fast that he couldn’t react
*still sees people crying about which game is better*
yup wasn't surprised at all :T
people know for years which is better
bratkartoffeln123456 it's smash for N64
hardly
bratkartoffeln123456
N64 for life.
Since smash 4 came out, tr4sh fanbois have been doing this fake war. They love tr4sh so much they start war on the internet instead of playing it.
Well of course game and watch is an incomplete character. He lacks any depth.
Okay I’ll leave now.
Took me a second. Good job.
wait that was funny COME BACK
Please stay.
I actually love this
Stay.
How can a video this good have a comment section this shit.
I don't notice anything wrong with it, I see a lot of people complaining about the comment section and Smash's fanbase being too obsessed with melee, but I don't see any melee elitists honestly.
you just need to dig deep and you'll find the comments.
yingerfelton Boi A big part of the comment section was Smash 4 fans shitting all over Melee because of this video. This was a joke video as well, meant to get a laugh out of Melee Players and show newcomers some silly things in Melee. Most of these mechanics aren't actually broken in any real way, some are but most are not. Yet this video directly attributes to tons of comments all around that say Melee is broken.
Clone Loli Because it's not as good as the fans of it say. Personally, I think it's broken, and the worst of the series. But everyone's entitled to their opinion, and if you like it, then that's fine.
BaTBOY12lol Your on the wrong video then, this video is a joke video and not meant to be taken seriously, many of the things that are examples of the game being "broken" are not actually broken. Also I believe despite some jank things, those are the things that make the game exciting. I mean I could also come off as immediately dismissive of Your favorite game and You'd likely respond in a very upset way, much like how many Melee fans are responding to people on this video. Also as You say Yourself You "PERSONALLY" think it's broken, when to many others, it's not and to a lot of people including Me believe it's the best in the series. You might realize that You cannot determine what is as good as the fans say by Yourself, just as I can't.
*RESPECT KIRBY: HE GOT G-TIER'D IN MELEE.*
1:50
Roy falling upair being dogshit.
How times have truly changed.
And pichu?
His stuff didn't work in melee lol
@@tatarsauce6314 he was a joke in melee.
@@lapplandkun9273 Yet he can kill Jigglypuff with an up-b reverse that does only 3% damage
@@nachoalvarez7171 that's due to how janky melee's engine and Jigglypuff was and how roy's up b worked.
All the smash games are great!
Even Brawl!
Because we can mod that to PM
Brawl is good without mods, true, but it's better with mods
"Because we can mod that to PM"
only for the Apex staff to tell u 2 get the fuck out :(
Brawl is the best. All dem AT's.
dae hate brawl huehue
No.
oh yeah brawl is so good beca-*trips over*
one lik 1 nerfe.
1:56 Roy can not KO Jigglypuff with his normal Up-B, even at 999%. Why.
Sw3g L0rd I did not know that the knockback was set; however, lashing out on me for no apparent reason wasn't that needed, if at all.
Final Atomic Buster Explanation: The way it OHKOs is if you b-reverse it as soon as it comes out so only the first hitbox hits.
Then any floaty (not just Jigglypuff) will eat 200 set knockback.
Roy's Up-B isn't designed to KO anyone. That OHK potential that it has is likely a glitch.
Its an oversight on B-Reversing. The First hit is meant to do the set knockback so it combos into the rest of the hits. They still use this in Smash 4 for multi hit up b's. Roy can still do this in Smash 4 for similar results and more famously Mario (I think it still OHKOs Jiggs). The OHKO is just the result of a programmer being lazy/rushed and not wanting to figure out the set kb in which it combos into the other hits. After all Roy was rushed and little time was spent on him.
Fool's Requiem it's an exploit. Not a glitch.
"Pretty much only 10/26 chars are viable"
*laughs in AmSa*
Lamb he’s yet to win a major though
**Laughs in MvC2**
@@andrewcichetti6130 he has beaten every player necessary to beat a major so it's only a matter of time, same with plup's sheik
@@andrewcichetti6130 So? He has still beaten top players.
@@andrewcichetti6130 Trust in the Hax$ Prophecy of his newest tier list, aMSa will carry his character to the top to become a stronger competitor than Hungrybox ever was
I'll love Melee forever but goddamn it is a janky mess lmao
Tbh sm4sh and brawl are more jank with meta knight shenanigans and chain grabbing stuff. And sm4sh has shit like bayo shenanigans pre patch diddy and ding dong/hoo hah
@@willdg8108 Dude calm down, you've replied to every comment I've looked at. If you like Melee that's fine, but it has a lot of huge oversights.
Sam Gomez sorry dude I commented all of those at like 3 in the morning after a 5 hour long melee grind sesh with my friends
@@willdg8108 this dude dun replied to every comment saying melee isn't perfect
@@willdg8108 sm4sh isnt more broken the melee brawl is tho
Honestly, I just prefer sm4sh because I don't have the time to try to learn advanced techniques just to have even a prayer of winning. I get why people like melee and the stuff you can pull off if you know what you're doing is amazing, but I've never been able to get close to that kind of stuff. The more I focus on strategy and competitive stuff the more I overthink everything and get completely destroyed, so I don't usually bother with it too much. If you can do it, good on you, but I'll be playing the stuff that I can actually enjoy and not get wombo'd into oblivion on as much.
I have a hard enough time making sure I haven't accidentally pressed the wrong button, or slipped my fingers.
Imo you don't have to know advanced shit to be good, although maybe if you wanted to compete in tournaments...
Read the video description to seek enlightenment
Gabe Zimmer I agree with you in every single way
It's true. This is way too much control-tech right time input based for me, personally.
1:40 Fox's face just says "try me, you big ape"
More like :
"Dude, you gotta be kiding me"
“Do that again, and you’re gonna catch this up-smash buddy don’t test me”
DK getting hella close like "hey cutie you come around here often"
How to find melee fanboys:
Go to a comment with a reasonable amount of likes with something referencing the statement that melee is buggy, glitchy and broken
Go to the replies
Profit.
1:40 Fox is like “something on your mind boi?” >:(
1:47 - If it weren't for the laws of this land Is would have killed you
DeVon-Tyrel Watson you got me XD
"Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?"
Seriously though, very informative.
Marth: ZA HANDO GA KESU
OOOOY JOSUKEEEEE
You really can find a JoJo fan anywhere.
I’m laughing so hard at Yoshi’s grab it literally goes straight past him lmaoooooo
The disclaimer sounds like you're being held at gunpoint, lol. SSB fans are so sensitive.
If you were actually asking why G&W can't l-cancel those moves, it's because the game reads them as specials instead of aerials.
So, some scrubby coding.
The game also reads that Kirby's FThrow and BThrow are command grabs, and that's why you can get out of half of Kirby's grabs.
if everything is broken nothing is broken
Dota 2 in a nutshell.
My relationships in a nutshell.
You are right in so many ways, and I hate you so much for it.
Sonic 06 was a remake of Sonic Adventure.
My point exactly!
I just got Melee for my GameCube I just got, and I'm sick and tired of the High-Tiers. Even when no one's playing them, I'm SICK that Fox and Falco are broken when they haven't gotten a game in years, 2 Fire Emblem Characters who started the horrible trend of having several Fire Emblem and swordfighter characters in Smash, the fact that Kirby hasn't exactly been good in Smash by the community for DECADES now, and I'm angry about the fact that A GOOD MAJORITY OF THE CAST ARE NOT TOURNAMENT VIABLE BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT FULLY BALANCED WITH EVERYONE ELSE. Why can't I combo with Mario in a Tournament? Why can't Bowser or Yoshi grab when a human can somehow best the mythical monsters? Why has the community agreed that Kirby is bad in almost every. single. Smash Game except 64?! Sakurai did his son dirty. why do people still play this godforsaken glitch of game that was developed in 13 months? simple, it's fun. The game is still fun. Despite these errors, this game is still LOADS of fun. I love using Kirby despite him being low. I love to use his Hammer Bash and Ultra Giant Swing despite them having Low Hit Boxes and damage rack up. I love using Mario and spamming the Mario Cyclone since that's the last time Mario would use that Down Special before it was retconned for F.L.U.U.D.. I like using Bowser and his too strong attacks that don't combo into each other. People have their ways of playing games. Whether casual or competitive, or any type of way you play, don't let the Tier Lists stop you from playing your favorite characters. Play who you wanna play. Yeah, I'm still hoping that one day a Melee Mario will somehow miraculously win majors and cause a major upset. Yeah, I'm waiting for Kirby to make a dent in his majors legacy with that one player that knows what they're doing. I still love them, and I appreciate the fact they're in, even if they are Low-Tiers. So please, choose who you wanna choose, and play who you wanna play. Don't let some List of strongest characters stop you from playing a character you like. As long as you're enjoying the game in any way, that's all that matters.
*However, I hate you at the moment Nintendo. Cancelling a Tournament for one of your most supported games over a Mod to enhance the experience for everyone? You better hope Bowser's Fury does WONDERS to everyone. Remember, the internet NEVER, I repeat, NEVER. Forgets.*
You spend like an hour to write this paragraph ranting about a game that was made in 13 months and only got 3 likes.
In my defense, I typed this in 3 minutes and wasn't FULLY ranting
@@flmadegabee Why are they not allowed to have an opinion on it? I'm presuming it's because you disagree with them
@@illford Did anything in my one sentence say that they cant have an opinion
@@illford I agree with him. Melee is a broken mess
Melee is the perfect smash just because of HAYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
*Insert shine spam*
*controller clicking intensifies*
*gun spam from far away mashing it and jumping then FIIIIIYAAAAAing into a mega combo then shines every frame*
*fox sd noise intensifies*
it's funny that the arguably most broken game of the series is the most popular.
weenuk that’s why I like it. I have waayyyy more stuff to learn and I can always add to my arsenal
Brawl tho
@@stickmic2 Ah, yes. I bet literally glitching through the fucking floor was put into the game too 'intentionally' for skill purposes. Just admit the game is fucked. It is fun, but it is a fucking mess.
AgentMeeM it’s not broken if you learn to do it too
@@tygonmaster I don't think you've actually played the game. Like, at all.
Ultimate is gonna be better than Melee.
*CHANGE MY MIND.*
I mean, what makes melee so great anyway?
You can’t.
its exploits combined with it's fast gameplay (that can go even faster thanks to the glitches in the game.)
it makes the game very interesting to watch, and makes the skill ceiling incredibly high.
of course some tournaments will also ban certain glitches from being used since they can be really unfair, but most of it is fair game
It will, with Melee's fast, competetive speed and Sm4sh's near balanced mechanics (-Bayonetta)
no one can or should change ur mind my friend
Game devs: *Rush the game and has a lot of exploitable glitches*
"Profesional" players: ITS A STARTEGY IM NOT AN EXPLOITER YOU NORMIE
whatever the means, the result was a sick game
Some say Melee is a perfect game
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literally nobody says that
i don't even know where that misconception ever came from
like actually no melee players say that
Not even close
Buckle up boys, let me explain how busted Melee is
Spent 5 seconds of my life scrolling through dis
@@Sully_2345 MELEE is broke
Melee isn't the perfect game but it is, in my opinion, the closest we have gotten to the perfect competitive game.
Why? I mean, what do melee has that other fighting games doesn't. Other than his history
+gcs cv It is one of the only games that has survived for 15 years based solely on it's game mechanics, and still has an evolving meta.
Such an original thought
Tyler Johnson That's why I said, other than his history. That makes the community great, not the game.
Complex doesn't mean good.
Tyler Johnson Also, smash 64 is still a thing
Honestly this is one of the best edited videos on youtube. The music goes so well with the short clip style and everything is straight to the point. Things are up on the screen for such a brief period but they're still explained. However the video is so packed with so many things that rewatching the video is still refreshing each time.
“Yoshi is only able to get top 8”
2022 aMSa: Am I a joke to you?
it's not like this video was posted 7 years ago or anything but y'know
@@genricjohnthis was also before Pikachu won a major
And the influx of DK players