This time last week my son Ian, and myself were at Herons. It was a lovely experience meeting Peter again after so many years. He was kind enough tomake time for a conversation, out of his busy morning. Thank you for that Peter, it was much appreciated. Also got to meet some of Peters staff, all of whom were very helpful, and friendly. My thanks also to Tibor who helped enormously. Someone made a comment a while back about Herons looking so good on the vids, and so much more in reality. I totally agree. So many beautiful, marvellous trees all in one place. Totally over welming. As Peter was kind enough to allow us to wander about all over, we took advantage. It made it a lovely, unforgettable day. Brilliant, and thank you Peter
@@peterchan3100 I had such a lovely day Peter. Its nice to recall past times. Speaking with you brought such a lot of memories back. Iwas just thrilled with it all. Take care Peter and keep well
PS I find, the more gritty the substrate, the more you have to water/mist them to keep the fine roots from drying up. One trick I use is to use a fat sharpie to create a hole in damp medium, then fill with sterile play sand, then mist and poke with a skewer. This sand keeps the moisture very close to the cutting to get the roots going, then they find happiness in the bonsai grow medium.
Fascinating. I have a relatively rare Lacebark Pine i grew From seed but sadly this was the only seed that germinated. Now that the tree has grown for a few years i thought about trying to Take cuttings and/or Air layers but wasnt Sure. But this Video encouraged me to try it. Thank you for your inspiring content Mr Chan
Radiata Pine, the new green candles about 3-5cm long, 6mm thick at the start of spring worked for me. No direct sunlight under a tree in garden soil kept moist and humid, rooted in the same season. Havent struck roots with hardened growth. New candles seem to be the better way to go.
Looking forward to seeing the results from your experiment. I have a couple JBP’s that are small. I made a few cuts and I have successfully made a cutting from one small branch. Also, I found that one of the cuttings I left in a plastic cup was still alive after several weeks. My drip system has misters and kept the cuttings moist. So, I used the rooting hormone powder and planted it in a small pot.
Absolutely inspiring, thank you. Looking at cultivating Pine from cuttings & came across this video. I'm quite keen to try your method but shall use Honey instead as a growth hormone. Last Spring I experimented with cultivating several Lavender stems in Autumn (I live in the uk) used Honey as a growth hormone/nutrient (money is v tight) low & behold, it was a success! Lost only 6 stems that didn't take out of 15, leaving 9 that thrived & are very healthy. Considering our dire British weather especially after much much rain & months of hardly any sunlight, I'm chuffed as can be. Experimenting is always a trial & so worth it.
For many cuttings bottom heat and overhead misting increases success. How will you be treating the cuttings and what strength rooting compound? I look foreword to your results.
I saw a video where a Japanese gentleman propagates from Zuisho. His strike rate is roughly 10% he says. This is awesome Peter. Wish you all the success.
Yes Peter it is possible with first seasons candles & possible with 2nd yr buds with luck,i mainly use kanuma but any organic or non-organic works with good aeration so they dont rot. Cheers mate from Melbourne Australia
Nice experiment Peter, I grow hundreds of JBP and JRP from cuttings but they are very young, would like to see if you can do it from older trees since I have a ton and could save a year or so of growing to pencil size. I have a lot of trees from seed with very short needles, would be great to propagate those JRP from a cutting.
I have air layered black pine every year, but it has to be young shoot of the year (semi hardwood). I haven't tried growing cuttings yet, because I think pine is not like juniper trees. My pines are grown from seed, so they are still young and give vigorous shoots every year. Old pines may be different.
I was duccessful with the cuttings from my Japanese White Pine this summer! I only got a survival rate of 20% but I am still very happy with my results for a first try 😊
I recently dug a White Bark pine that had a nice shape I couldn't resist. In a small training pot for now and waiting to see what spring brings to how the future growth plays out. :-)
Ì have successfully rooted 2 scotts pine cuttings. Very early spring when buds just start, then kept in dappled shade. Just left alone for almost 2 years. I've seen a guy do successful air layers bat doing it in early spring as well.
Hi, Peter. How are you? I’m from Brazil and I love to watch your videos, bonsais, tips, etc. Nevertheless, I’m a beginner in the bonsai world owning just 2 pre -bonsais (Pink Calliandra and Dwarf Cherry Tree) and I’d like to start my own bonsai here with your guidance. This said, I’d like to suggest you to create a small serie of videos (for your audience in the 10 countries that watch you the most) teaching how to create a bonsai from seed. You can choose the tree based in fast growing in each country to save time (or make a quick survey) and show all of them monthly side-by-side and giving a brief explanation what’s to do next for each one and comparing the growth for each. What do you think? Let people around the world have a bonsai tree guided by you? Spreading your knowledge and seeds around the world.
Nice to see Peter doing some experimenting here, considering I have been looking into my own experimental challenges. First, quite a while ago I purchased a discounted rather depressed form of Hibiscus that has really shown improvement since. The plant had 2 trunks, so I used Peter's "slicing the cake" method to separate the 2 trunks. I also used the blade to make it so I was able to fit the now 2 plants into their own new containers. I was apprehensive to cut the plant(s) back due to it still flowering. I began taking cuttings conservatively about a week ago still taking a few here and there and even leaving buds and flowers on the plant and it still flowers pretty well. If others have access to Hibiscus that is healthy but neglected what a fun plant to experiment with as Bonsai. I am still taking cuttings, and am trying to cut back to about 10-15 inches in height from the soil as the overwintering size, and allow them to grow out again in the spring. My second experiment involves growing horseradish in bonsai soil in tall narrow nursery pots. My theory being I will be able to maintain 1 root in 1 2x2 or 3x3 inch in tree container form I think they are square tall tree nursery pots. I am hopeful this way I will be able to rotate 10 or more roots accordingly over time if all goes according to planned. Also part 3 if you wish to call it that keeping the horseradish under a grow light over winter for starters, and wondering if peppers, and tomatoes will produce under grow lights. If nothing else the peppers will be that much more productive come springtime. Hoping others get some ideas from our challenges. :-)
I think when cloning keeping them alive is first step. You can also try a dome as well if you see your cuttings dying or drying up. I recommend rooting hormone to speed up process.
I have one mugo cutting that struck, it’s 2 years old now I think with new candles. It was a Winter cutting with a candle that started growing in spring. Oh and worth a mention, I planted that cutting in the ground outside
By the way I love your channel I’ve been watching it for a long time🎉🎉🎉🎉 I have a plant collection myself of about 3000 plants🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 my other half says that I am using What they call “willow water”
As i understood it may take 2 years for them to root? I didnt have success with pine cuttings yet, some seem still alive so I will stay patient for another year!
Even if I wish this experiment was successful, I am afraid it was not. I have also been experimenting a lot especially with pine cuttings and pine air layering. Air layering of leader branches (not lower/lateral) worked so far for me in pinus thunbergii and pinus mugo planted in the ground with faster growth rate than if grown in pot. In both air layering and cuttings, the faster the rate of the tissue growth the better chances for rooting in one season, which means that air-layering or cuttings of dwarf cultivars have lower chances to root, no matter if the branch is a leader or not. The main problem with the cuttings is the difficulty to keep them alive long enough.
Peter my success came after I did it in this fashion??? I wait until after the shrub has flushed its new growth on a one year-old stem then I take that stem and I put it in my pond💐💐💐 I put only about an 2 to 3” piece in the water/stream... for about a week or more( The pond water is warmer than the air) ( I am in the Pacific Northwest Portland Oregon) I’m waiting for the water to scab/callous and show that it’s going to start putting on a roots💐💐💐I don’t let it put on a root in the water... by putting them in the stream you are “sort of” annealing the stem from rot??? I don’t know 🤷♂️ all I know is I’ve had 100% success rate!!! On every plant I have done!!! And some plants will be ready to put in the soil within a five day period and some of taken up to a month!!! I was having a difficult time with the pines🙉🙉🙉seeds 🙉🙉🙉grafting 😱😱😱and then I watched a video from a well known plant maker here in this area and I saw the secret🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 they did not show me the secret ???? or tell me the secret???? they exposed it when they were explaining some of their gardening techniques??? Probably one of the biggest plant developers in this country🙉🙉🙉
This time last week my son Ian, and myself were at Herons. It was a lovely experience meeting Peter again after so many years. He was kind enough tomake time for a conversation, out of his busy morning. Thank you for that Peter, it was much appreciated. Also got to meet some of Peters staff, all of whom were very helpful, and friendly. My thanks also to Tibor who helped enormously. Someone made a comment a while back about Herons looking so good on the vids, and so much more in reality. I totally agree. So many beautiful, marvellous trees all in one place. Totally over welming. As Peter was kind enough to allow us to wander about all over, we took advantage. It made it a lovely, unforgettable day. Brilliant, and thank you Peter
Nothing like meeting friends from long ago. I have known John for almost forty years!! We had a wonderful day recounting our younger days .
@@peterchan3100 I had such a lovely day Peter. Its nice to recall past times. Speaking with you brought such a lot of memories back. Iwas just thrilled with it all. Take care Peter and keep well
Can't wait to see the result, thx for sharing Peter
I always admire someone who can reasses their view in the light of additional information, it shows a truly open mind.
Lol. You've gone from "I can't wait forever." To "I'm trying a new experiment!"
A true craftsman you are!!!
PS I find, the more gritty the substrate, the more you have to water/mist them to keep the fine roots from drying up. One trick I use is to use a fat sharpie to create a hole in damp medium, then fill with sterile play sand, then mist and poke with a skewer. This sand keeps the moisture very close to the cutting to get the roots going, then they find happiness in the bonsai grow medium.
Nice technique
Fascinating. I have a relatively rare Lacebark Pine i grew From seed but sadly this was the only seed that germinated. Now that the tree has grown for a few years i thought about trying to Take cuttings and/or Air layers but wasnt Sure. But this Video encouraged me to try it.
Thank you for your inspiring content Mr Chan
Radiata Pine, the new green candles about 3-5cm long, 6mm thick at the start of spring worked for me. No direct sunlight under a tree in garden soil kept moist and humid, rooted in the same season. Havent struck roots with hardened growth. New candles seem to be the better way to go.
Excited to see how these turn out, good luck Peter! 👍👍
Looking forward to seeing the results from your experiment. I have a couple JBP’s that are small. I made a few cuts and I have successfully made a cutting from one small branch. Also, I found that one of the cuttings I left in a plastic cup was still alive after several weeks. My drip system has misters and kept the cuttings moist. So, I used the rooting hormone powder and planted it in a small pot.
Thank you...We will be attentive to see the results...thanks again
Thanks for sharing your experiment Peter. Please update on progress 👩🏻🌾🪴
Absolutely inspiring, thank you. Looking at cultivating Pine from cuttings & came across this video. I'm quite keen to try your method but shall use Honey instead as a growth hormone.
Last Spring I experimented with cultivating several Lavender stems in Autumn (I live in the uk) used Honey as a growth hormone/nutrient (money is v tight) low & behold, it was a success! Lost only 6 stems that didn't take out of 15, leaving 9 that thrived & are very healthy. Considering our dire British weather especially after much much rain & months of hardly any sunlight, I'm chuffed as can be.
Experimenting is always a trial & so worth it.
i have rooted scots pine this summer with a decent success rate. similar to the dwarf alberta using growing tips with about 4/5 node long cuttings
For many cuttings bottom heat and overhead misting increases success. How will you be treating the cuttings and what strength rooting compound? I look foreword to your results.
I saw a video where a Japanese gentleman propagates from Zuisho. His strike rate is roughly 10% he says. This is awesome Peter. Wish you all the success.
Yes Peter it is possible with first seasons candles & possible with 2nd yr buds with luck,i mainly use kanuma but any organic or non-organic works with good aeration so they dont rot. Cheers mate from Melbourne Australia
I did the same with cuttings from a black pine in May. 4 months later they are still green so I'm hoping that is a sign it has worked.
Nice experiment Peter, I grow hundreds of JBP and JRP from cuttings but they are very young, would like to see if you can do it from older trees since I have a ton and could save a year or so of growing to pencil size. I have a lot of trees from seed with very short needles, would be great to propagate those JRP from a cutting.
I have air layered black pine every year, but it has to be young shoot of the year (semi hardwood). I haven't tried growing cuttings yet, because I think pine is not like juniper trees. My pines are grown from seed, so they are still young and give vigorous shoots every year. Old pines may be different.
Looking forward to the results.
I was duccessful with the cuttings from my Japanese White Pine this summer! I only got a survival rate of 20% but I am still very happy with my results for a first try 😊
I recently dug a White Bark pine that had a nice shape I couldn't resist. In a small training pot for now and waiting to see what spring brings to how the future growth plays out. :-)
@kevinanderson9335 very cool, I hope to hear about it next year!
Ì have successfully rooted 2 scotts pine cuttings. Very early spring when buds just start, then kept in dappled shade. Just left alone for almost 2 years. I've seen a guy do successful air layers bat doing it in early spring as well.
Hi, Peter. How are you? I’m from Brazil and I love to watch your videos, bonsais, tips, etc.
Nevertheless, I’m a beginner in the bonsai world owning just 2 pre -bonsais (Pink Calliandra and Dwarf Cherry Tree) and I’d like to start my own bonsai here with your guidance.
This said, I’d like to suggest you to create a small serie of videos (for your audience in the 10 countries that watch you the most) teaching how to create a bonsai from seed.
You can choose the tree based in fast growing in each country to save time (or make a quick survey) and show all of them monthly side-by-side and giving a brief explanation what’s to do next for each one and comparing the growth for each.
What do you think? Let people around the world have a bonsai tree guided by you? Spreading your knowledge and seeds around the world.
Nice to see Peter doing some experimenting here, considering I have been looking into my own experimental challenges. First, quite a while ago I purchased a discounted rather depressed form of Hibiscus that has really shown improvement since. The plant had 2 trunks, so I used Peter's "slicing the cake" method to separate the 2 trunks. I also used the blade to make it so I was able to fit the now 2 plants into their own new containers. I was apprehensive to cut the plant(s) back due to it still flowering. I began taking cuttings conservatively about a week ago still taking a few here and there and even leaving buds and flowers on the plant and it still flowers pretty well. If others have access to Hibiscus that is healthy but neglected what a fun plant to experiment with as Bonsai. I am still taking cuttings, and am trying to cut back to about 10-15 inches in height from the soil as the overwintering size, and allow them to grow out again in the spring. My second experiment involves growing horseradish in bonsai soil in tall narrow nursery pots. My theory being I will be able to maintain 1 root in 1 2x2 or 3x3 inch in tree container form I think they are square tall tree nursery pots. I am hopeful this way I will be able to rotate 10 or more roots accordingly over time if all goes according to planned. Also part 3 if you wish to call it that keeping the horseradish under a grow light over winter for starters, and wondering if peppers, and tomatoes will produce under grow lights. If nothing else the peppers will be that much more productive come springtime. Hoping others get some ideas from our challenges. :-)
What was the result of this experiment?
I just started a pine cutting a few days ago as well. Time will tell.
Hi there, any updates on this? So curious on the result.
I commend you for trying. I don’t know about pine cuttings but we see
I’ve heard you can get a ground layering with its native soil. I wonder if mycorrhizae would help the cuttings?
Good luck, I can't wait to see how this goes.
My gardener just trimmed out very old Japanese black pine and I am going to try to propagate them. I will put them in potting soil.
Wish me luck 😊
I think when cloning keeping them alive is first step. You can also try a dome as well if you see your cuttings dying or drying up. I recommend rooting hormone to speed up process.
I have one mugo cutting that struck, it’s 2 years old now I think with new candles. It was a Winter cutting with a candle that started growing in spring.
Oh and worth a mention, I planted that cutting in the ground outside
how did it work out?
I am very enthusiastic waiting for the results of the experiment
Hi did it work ?
👍🏻 A esperar para ver resultados
Good luck. Do you water them or cover with glass plate etc?
You can cover them with a plastic bag also but as our greenhouse is damp, we dont have to cover.
👍
I want to try that, important information: do they have to be frost-free in the greenhouse or can I expose them to frost? I live in Denmark
Yes - keep it frost free
Did they make roots?
im very interested! i tried Japanese maple and none of the cuttings took
Sir did you get success in pine cutting propagation
By the way I love your channel I’ve been watching it for a long time🎉🎉🎉🎉 I have a plant collection myself of about 3000 plants🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 my other half says that I am using What they call “willow water”
Any update on these? Couldn’t find a update video
I love the experiment, tendrán mejor crecimiento en la mix al ser más aireado, elcompost es más compacto por lo tanto no crecerá tanto tardará m@s.
I'm rooting for you! 😅 PLEASE do an update on these eventually.
Are you a budding bonsai enthusiast?
@@philipwilliams5808 Yes, the seed was planted long ago. My mame gave me a juniper for my birthday when I was a teenager.
Good luck 👍
Good luck Peter I’m building my business on cuttings cheers
This is so interesting, let’s hope.
Hi, where to purchase hormone rooting powder please? It doesn't seem to exist where I live.
In GB most Garden Centres sell it as do some DIY stores.
really wish i could root cedar this way but they can only be grown through grafting
I have rooted cedar this way. I currently have two Nana Gracilis cuttings that seem to be doing fine. I will know for sure in the spring...
@philipwilliams5808 no offense but I seriously doubt you've rooted cedar from a cutting
@@yoteslaya7296 None taken, but you are incorrect.
@@philipwilliams5808 nope. 99% of all cedars sold today are grafted.
did they root?
Any success with these Peter?
Did any root?
Did it work?
As i understood it may take 2 years for them to root? I didnt have success with pine cuttings yet, some seem still alive so I will stay patient for another year!
If they stay alive eventually they should root. You may want to try a rooting hormone to speed up process.
Do you have an update?
How did this experiment turn out ??
Se supone que crecerá más rápido en la mix
Can we get an update please?
Even if I wish this experiment was successful, I am afraid it was not. I have also been experimenting a lot especially with pine cuttings and pine air layering. Air layering of leader branches (not lower/lateral) worked so far for me in pinus thunbergii and pinus mugo planted in the ground with faster growth rate than if grown in pot. In both air layering and cuttings, the faster the rate of the tissue growth the better chances for rooting in one season, which means that air-layering or cuttings of dwarf cultivars have lower chances to root, no matter if the branch is a leader or not. The main problem with the cuttings is the difficulty to keep them alive long enough.
Were the pine cuttings a success,peter
👍
I think Covering with plastic cover will boost
Sphagnum moss
If anyone can get them to root it is you Peter.
🥰🥰👍
👍🍎👌🙂
I remember 25 years ago my dad's mate grew pines from pine needles but when i tried it they grew into fat pine needles 😂
Why not do something just because you were told not to. If nobody’s getting hurt, go for it.
Herons have now mastered clickbait titles. I thought we would see the results in this video. Next video moving the tray into the shade.
He says right at the beginning that this was filmed at the end of August, so why would you expect results so soon?
Nothing in the the title mentions results. That was wishful thinking.
@peterchan3100 Brilliant! Did you already publish any follow-up on this experiment?
Peter my success came after I did it in this fashion???
I wait until after the shrub has flushed its new growth on a one year-old stem then I take that stem and I put it in my pond💐💐💐 I put only about an 2 to 3” piece in the water/stream... for about a week or more( The pond water is warmer than the air) ( I am in the Pacific Northwest Portland Oregon) I’m waiting for the water to scab/callous and show that it’s going to start putting on a roots💐💐💐I don’t let it put on a root in the water... by putting them in the stream you are “sort of” annealing the stem from rot??? I don’t know 🤷♂️ all I know is I’ve had 100% success rate!!! On every plant I have done!!! And some plants will be ready to put in the soil within a five day period and some of taken up to a month!!! I was having a difficult time with the pines🙉🙉🙉seeds 🙉🙉🙉grafting 😱😱😱and then I watched a video from a well known plant maker here in this area and I saw the secret🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 they did not show me the secret ???? or tell me the secret???? they exposed it when they were explaining some of their gardening techniques??? Probably one of the biggest plant developers in this country🙉🙉🙉