@@zverispetras You can make large prints that are indistinguishable from those from larger sensor cameras. The snobs figure that you can barely print a postcard from an MFT image.
@@zverispetras For one thing, you can produce large prints that are indistinguishable from those from ff sensors. Then there's the superior image stabilization that lets you use long lenses handheld. And, finally, no one but the perfect-bokeh fetishists care at all that the bokeh from mft sensors is not always as creamy as that from ff. Of course, if you understand how bokeh is actually produced, then you can adapt your shooting to produce pleasing bokeh with any sensor.
I wish they would bring back the GX-9 body with the 26mp image sensor. I would be all over it. I had the GX-85 with the 20mm f 1.7 Lumix prime. I couldn't put it down. It was fun!
Even after all these years, this is still one of the most underrated cameras for street shooting ever made. So glad you made this video as it reminded me that I have one and should use it more.
I disagree. I’ve been using the GX85 for the past 6 years, and while it does have some strengths, it is absolutely hopeless for street photography. The jpeg IQ is horrendous unless you’re around ISO 100-200 with a decent lens, with noise reduction and sharpness dialed right down. Even then, colours are atrocious. Need to shoot RAW if you shoot low light or want attractive colours. The EVF is so small and unclear, it’s difficult to know exactly what you’re shooting or what is in focus. AF is not that reliable or fast. Most importantly, it does not have a proper grip, and is therefore uncomfortable to hold for very long, and is quite slippery, easy to drop.
@mklives2 Alex Zafer, Frame-lines: "I like this camera! I think it's surprisingly good!" MK Lives: "No it's not, it's not! Don't believe the evidence of your eyes and your inferior cogitation! Slippery grip! Slippery grip! Aargh!"
@@mklives2 Different strokes for different folks. It sounds like you don’t like this camera. Yet you’ve kept it for six years. If I wasn’t too keen on one of my camera bodies I’d sell it for some other piece of gear I love. Sorry you don’t get on with your GX85. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
I’ve had everything from Pentax to Fuji to Leica…and I was one of those “never m43!l people that thought the fotos would look like something from a 2004 mobile phone. I purchased the LUMIX gx85/80 kit while it was on sale. My only regret is that I didn’t try m43 sooner. What an incredible system. I added the lumix 20mm 1.7 ll and then turn on the L Monochrome setting…the heavens open up and the angels start singing! I’ve heard from many people that Leica helped Panasonic create the L monochrome profile and I believe it, looks very very similar to the BW on my Leica. Honestly, my Leica has just sat in its bag ever since I got the lumix. If there’s anyone else out there on the fence about trying m43, I say don’t wait. You’re missing out on a great experience and a lot of fun. The photos have a nice natural look to them. Something that’s missing from many cameras in 2024, they all look too sharp, too sterile with flat feeling. M43 and lumix fotos have great rendering to them.
Finally! It's so nice to hear how much you enjoyed shooting with an M43 camera. They always get overlooked for flashier or more popular brands. Hope you enjoy it for years to come!
I got a used one last year as my first proper camera and shot thousands of photos with it so far! It is an amazing piece of kit and if you keep the shutter speed low, using an f1.7 or brighter aperture, you can even make amazing shots in the dark (ex. I used it for a dark forrest themed Halloween photoshoot at midnight and couldn't believe my eyes, same for astrophotography with this tiny thing). The sensor, as you point out, is far better at handling shadows than highlights. I always shoot manual and aim for a slightly underexposed photo if I'm shooting in a bright scene. Using luminar and the raw files, it's very easy to pull up the shadows but not pull down the highlights as they blow up quickly. I also limit my ISO to 1600, though 3200 is usable in a pinch. But realistically, due to stabilization and bright apertures, I rarely need to use ISOs above 800 in anything but a dark bar or restaurant for example.
@@anisolo07 hey! Sorry, even though I'd love to send you some examples, I'm a social media hermit. UA-cam is my only vice. I have no Instagram or something similar. I can tell you that since I made that comment I got an A7 III and that is now my main camera. The Lumix remains in use about 20% of the time and I still love it. Gets very close results to the Sony, but the Sony has a much nicer view finder and of course cleaner images in the dark (up to iso 6400 is acceptable).
The Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 is a really nice combination on the GX series cameras. It doesn't say "Leica" on it, but it's among the sharpest lenses in the system, and it's *tiny*. My GX9 with that lens fits very comfortably in a jacket pocket. The only downside is slow autofocus.
I'll second that recommendation...can be had very cheaply if you hunt around. The slow autofocus isn't so bad once you get used to it...and the picture quality and size makes up for it in spades.
I just commented something similar! I use this lens on my Olympus em10 mark ii and I feel the same.. if it weren't for the af, I'd be totally pleased! I'm considering to switch to the Olympus 25 mm f1.8
@@supersflallifications1783 I think the Panasonic 25/1.7 is a better buy for a budget 25. Both are good lenses, but the Panasonic costs quite a bit less, and unlike the 20, it's autofocus is fast.
@@ZakWilson I forgot about it! It was my alternative to the 20mm that I ended up buying.. would you do the switch? It pains me to lose such a small and gorgeous lens, but could really use a faster autofocus and I’d love the 50mm eq focal length
I just picked up a GX80 in VGC with the 12-32 lumix lens. I'm very pleased as it's a great pocketable camera. I'm looking forward to trying a bit of street photography and night photography. thanks for the review.
I bought a used one of these several years ago and still use it regularly. Although I’m sure that Leica glass is excellent, I really love pairing it with vintage glass (Pentax in my case). That sensor is a perfect match for capturing the look of the “vintage” light coming through those older lenses and imbedding it into the raw files. No need to resort to goofy vintage filters in post. Just tweak exposure and go.
@@supersflallifications1783 There are a lot of inexpensive adapters available from B & H, etc. In my case, I use an adapter from Fotodiox called the Stretch, which is a bit more expensive, but, in addition to adapting the lens to the camera, it also provides a rotating adjustment that allows for some limited macro focus (it works very well and I use it a lot more than I thought I would). The stretch also comes with three magnetic drop-in ND filters that saves me from having to mess with screw on ND's.
I second this, i have used an old Zeiss T* 50 mm (for Contax) on my mft cameras. Nice look to the photos, but definately not as sharp as the native mft lenses! Another minus is the double focal length, so it’s kind of “all tele”…
I've been using a little GX9 for a few years with that PanaLeica 15mm lens. It's such a great and small combination. The 12-60 is a good additional lens which makes for a flexible and very compact travel system. I got your zine to this week, great work. As a coastal hogger myself, great work from Brighton! I've spent time lately around Hayling Island, Southsea Fort Cumberland just out of Portsmouth, may be not quite your cup of tea but it could be worth a look if you are back in the area!
I’ve been using this camera for many years now. It really is a great walkabout, everyday carry. Most recently, I’ve been using a Laowa 17mm f1.8 on this. It is manual focus, but the hyperfocal distance is essentially a few meters out to infinity at f5.6. So aperture prioty, and auto iso and you just have to frame. I’ve also taken to have the camera bracket 3 at 1 stop over and under. Very fast way to work.
Welcome to the world of MFT. Don't let these UA-camrs saying MFT is dead fool you. They're VERY WRONG! Also, I'm a bit surprised you didn't know anything about the LUMIX GX series of cameras and the Panasonic Leica set of lenses. Anywho, the reason why you felt this camera was similar to the Leica Q is because Panasonic with Leica designed the Q and the Q2. The camera that's most like the Q's is the GX9. I love that camera so much I decided to purchase it again after selling it last year instead of purchasing a Q2 or M10. As Shane told you the image quality of the files look very similar to Leica DNG's. I did an experiment for a month on IG hashtagging photo's from the GX9 as though they came from an M10 and people who shoot with the M10 regularly didn't realise the photos were from the GX9. Basically, proving a point I've been making for years. Leica camera bodies don't have an advantage over any other manufacturers camera bodies but maybe their lenses or better yet M mount lenses across the board do. I'm primarily a Fujifilm X-Pro3 shooter but 50% of my lenses are M mount and I have them adapted across my entire kit. A kit which includes the LUMIX GX9, Leica CL mirrorless not film, Fujifilm X-Pro3 and the LUMIX S5. Shooting with the same Voigtlander M mount lenses on my Leica CL and the LUMIX GX9, the GX9 is a superior camera in everyway and the raw files as well as the jpegs coming out of it are better than what I get from the CL. I'll end with this, those who call themselves street photographers could save themselves a LOT of money and headache if they invested in the LUMIX GX series of cameras with a good set of lenses. They'd find themselves having lots of fun with a powerful camera and more money in their pockets. And with that, I'm gone.
I got a GX85 as a present from the States with the 20mm f1.7 after reading about it previously on the late, Daved Thorpe's, channel. I have large hands and use a L bracket with it that makes it a lot easier to shoot one handed with a wrist strap. My other camera is a D700 and you couldn't get two cameras that are polar opposites. However, the results are glorious and they compliment each other. Good to see that Framelines has is still going strong from when you made this video two years ago. Enjoy the rest of your day.
Yeah. For those of us who don't have deep pockets it's heartening to have access to a whole load of secondhand gear in electrical exchange stores. I just purchased a Panni GX1 for £45! And the 14 to 42 mm lens for £60 and they even gave me a new charger with USB connection! Better then the wall plugging the originally came with camera. Now all that needs to happen is for it to stop raining!! Always rains when i get a new camera. Cheers
Great review! I used that exact setup for several years before moving to Fuji. Despite its diminutive size, its packed with features. A fabulous street shooter.
I've got a GX80 and I love it in a way I don't love my other photo gear. Use it with the 20mm f1.7 and 14mm f2.5 lenses for street and urban photography. Brilliant gear for the money. I hope to get the Pana/Leica 15mm at some point. Great video!
Hey, great intro - for me to LUMIX cameras. It look really compact n lite; as u said, a very useful EDC. Also your images looked so good they could hv bin taken on a Much more expensive set up. Very Cool !! (Also liked the look of yr magazine …). Thks.
Really great video & pics Josh. Couple of points I hope will be helpful. Consider the GX9 which as well as having various known upgraded features to the GX80 also has the ability to select a minimum shutter speed (like the G9) which I find v useful when shooting in AP mode and auto ISO. Regarding noise with M43 cameras; if you do find it is unacceptable at higher ISOs I recommend using DXO photo lab 4 and above and their Deep Prime noise reduction button it’s incredible & effectively removes 1 of the disadvantages of M43, all the best.
I bought back into MFT again. Bought the GX80 too. Love the camera, paired with the 20mm shoot in 1:1 aspect ratio, just become i found it fun. The highlights blow out easily as you state correctly. I love the fact that you can take Lumix picture profiles and adjust then accordingly. Additional the image quality is great, rich good colours. Probably the best alternative for the overhyped Fujifilm x100v/vi (they haven't changed the lens much there) and it is so budget friendly. A steal
I bought this camera and lens combo because of you. I could not be more pleased. When shooting photo's, the focus is blazing fast. I am a Ricoh GR shooter and I might this setup better. Beautiful, rich images that are so pleasing. Thanks so very much for the tip. So much fun to use.
GX80 is the camera I have been using since I traded in my Canon APS slr as it was getting so heavy and too conspicuous. I’ve been very pleased with quality. I also combine it with traditional film lenses for different textures. I have been very happy with the tiny Olympus 45mm
My fav is the Olympus em1 MK2. Tough as nails, great auto focus even in video (phase detect), and very cheap price at this point. For travel, the weather sealing is fantastic! Great for street shots
I moved from Nikon FF to this camera. This is a great casual camera for street and event photography. I have since purchased a G9. The colors from the 20mp G9 sensor have a lot more depth. When I shoot the GX, I usually dial up B&W. The PL 15 is a great small lens. Also in the category are the Oly 17 and Pana 20. Sharp, tiny, easily pocketable. Don't sleep on the kit 12-32, however. Tiny, sharp, quick, stabilized. The ONLY downside to the zoom is the max aperture. Ideal for a day shooting on the street.
I look forward to buying issue 2! And yup, I've been using Lumix kit for 10 years, glad you've discovered the joys and quality of the system. The 15mm is the 'everymans' Leica lens, and about the same price a 'real' Leica lens hood! The GX80 is a lovely little thing, an astounding bargain secondhand. The very similar GX9 has a newer, 20mp sensor, with slightly better image quality. You might want to try playing around with the dynamic range settings to improve highlight rendition, and the image sharpening for the 'over-sharpening' you mention. I'll look forward to Framelines No3 for your latest work shot on Lumix too...
Still one of my favorite cameras that I carry around almost daily. The size and price for the quality it gives is just amazing, can't recommend it enough.
This was my first - and until a couple of weeks ago, only - interchangeable-lens camera, bought I don't know when. Launch year or soon after. Going to be honest, I started to resent it for the poor light gathering and sharpness of the pictures I got; though I think my problems were that I was trying to shoot wildlife in gloomy forests rather than street photography, and I was using the slightly decrepit 45-200mm mega OIS lens. Said camera bought a couple of weeks ago is an Olympus E-M1X with the 300mm prime lens. It's lush. But the curious thing is that now my GX80 isn't being pushed to be a stayfari whizz, I'm starting to use and appreciate it a lot more for what it can do. It helps that I've dived into photography on youtube, and been pleasantly surprised (and a bit reproached) by all the videos like this, as recently as a year ago, where it keeps making new fans.
A pair of GX80s were my go-to cameras for my motojournalist work. I traveled the world with them and got magazine covers and two page spreads published. It's a great tool.
How can anyone that runs a UA-cam channel dedicated to street photography not be familiar with micro four thirds and the GX series of cameras?? Rookies! ;-) Glad Panasonic and m43 are getting some much deserved love and good choice selecting the 15mm lens, which has the awesome aperture ring. Compact street setup is the scenario where m43 really excels over larger formats.
I didn't have much money so after research thought this would be the best camera to get into photography last year. Paired with a cheap stock 25mm lens and it's amazing. Plan on using for quite a while longer. Nice vid, I will certainly subscribe and as an ex Londoner myself... You did well to take all those shots without too much hassle from the punters! Gotta watch your back on the Northern Line lol
For video settings, use Natural profile with sharpening, contrast, saturation and noise reduction dialed down to taste. 4k 25p in 100 mbps mp4 will give you very decent video files, especially for just walking around.
Good review. This camera is probably among the best values for street photographers as the 2-lens kit is now $600, plus the camera has stabilization, which makes it a more versatile and a better value over some of it's rivals. Considering getting one of these to accompany my FF camera system (for when I don't want to lug around a large camera and lenses -- in some cases, even taking a FF body and a travel zoom is overkill for some things and that's where I think MFT has the upper hand over APS-C, plus some APS-C camera systems are getting to be as big and heavy as FF cameras these days)
The equivalent of that Panasonic in my kit is the Olympus E-PL5! I just love that camera and use it for street photography all the time with the brilliant Olympus 25mm f1.8 lens. Thanks for the video.
Fabulous! I'm about to put mine up for sale and now I have a great recent review to pop in the ad. Cheers! It's a great set up. I went up to the G9 and I've got a little Leica D-Lux for day to day and back up.
Great video Josh! Loving your pictures with the Gx80 ⚡ I've been using this camera for some years now and I love it more and more. It's so good to see other contents about it on UA-cam!
This was my first non DSLR camera, and have missed it ever since it broke. There’s a 17mm Olympus M Zuiko f2.8 you can pick up for around a £100, makes it such an awesome affordable street camera, but I also used it as a back up for a couple of professional jobs!
The GX 80/85 is an excellent camera. It's one issue - in common with other Lumix compacts - is a failing rear dial contact. Fortunately your favourite mode can be assigned to the front dial, which has a more positive feel.
Nice Video Josh. I've been shooting a GX80 since release in 2016, and absolutely love it. Micro Four Thirds isn't at all bad! I shoot mine with the Olympus 17mm f1.8 which is a great lens too. In fairness, the 12-32 kit lens that came with it was actually really good, and very cheap for anyone who might need a compact zoom, it's also stabilised so you get the benefits of Panasonic's dual IS system.
You can switch the function on the 2 wheels for shutter and aperture. So the front metal wheel can be the shutterspeed and not the Plastik one on the back so you could use the ring on the lens for aperture and front wheel for shutterspeed and have a more high quality feeling
You should check out the GX8... same body but the viewfinder is hinged, as is the LCD, the sensor is slightly higher res, 20MP, the body is splash proof (which if I’m not mistaken the GX9 is not), so overall same sensation and Panasonic signature images, but better body in every sense...
I had one for a bit, loved the OLED VF, way better than the gx80 but I thought the tilt was a bit of a gimmick, also zero difference in overall image quality IMO
Very nice review. Although I have all formats from small sensors up to full frame, the model I will take with me on my next trip to Europe will no doubt be my 2 GX85 bodies and lenses. I just love using them and adapting vintage older lenses to them as well as regular Lumix and Olympus lenses. Great cameras.
I didn't know much about this line, or m4/3 cameras in general. Seems like a great system and I'm inclined to give it a try. I have to also say Josh - your images are recognizable regardless of the camera.
Just found your channel, so pleased I did, been binge watching and really like the content and style of presentation, well done. Just as a mention and pointer for others, it may help other shooter; I use the LUMIX GX9, I bought it used about 3 years ago purely for everyday and street use, love it to death. With the Panasonic 14 on her she slips in and out of a jacket pocket with ease, that lens is near to a pancake and only stands out at about 20mm out from the body. I also like to slip the Panasonic 25 1.7 in the other pocket, a quick lens change an that cheap kit lens brings with it a hole new perspective and creativity to your shots, not the sharpest but a lovely fast lens with a pleasant cinematic almost painterly look especially in mono. Looking forward to regular viewing of your channel. 👏📸
I use a 8.1 megapixel Ricoh gr digital camera for street. I carry it with me everyday. Silent mode mostly set to black and white at 800 iso . I carry a spare battery and a card ready to upload to Instagram on the go. I love it.
I take this camera with me on tour and take pictures of all the bands I play with in b&w. Everyone really loves the look of them and it honestly works decent in low light.
I recently bought this camera as a spare lighter camera . I have still a nikon d5500 which i still like as stands up well to more recent cameras albeit doesnt have 4k video. I dont use video a lot and hd video is good enough for me anyway.
I had it and used it for a long time. My favorite lenses were the Lumix 42,5mm and the 40mm macro. It is one of the best MFT, especially for the price. However, I sold it because I don't collect cameras, and the Nikon Z5 has a lot better dynamic range and many other improvements. With the 28mm it is similar to your setup and not much larger.
The relationship between Panasonic and Leica for both cameras and lenses is longstanding. If you have the post skills &/or presets, you can indeed get very Leica-like colours from Panasonic bodies. Love the GX85, even with all its quirks.
Nice video - I recently picked up a GX80 after parting ways with it a few years ago. I have been shooting with the GR for a while so it has been nice to have a meatier camera in the hands. If you want a truer 28mm experience, the 14mm 2.5 is great and very cheap.
@@frame-lines Micro 4/3 multiplier is 2x. So a 15mm is actually 30mm full-frame equivalent. The pancake 20mm Lumix lens is actually 40mm full-frame equivalent and so on.
I bought a used GX85 with 12-32 Zoom for ICM-photography... most pics in BW, for this purpose I am very satisfied. The camera can do certainly more, but for this I am using a Sony A7CR.
Trouble with highlights on micro four thirds? First time I’ve heard anyone have that problem with the system given it can recover highlights miles better than the full frame sensor of a Sony A7III. My Olympus E-M5 III, Lumix G9, and old GX85 can easily recover blown out highlights with the Olympus being the best at it whereas my Sony A7III couldn’t do it to save its life. So I would have to expose for the highlights whereas I will expose for shadows with micro four thirds because I can easily recover highlights. I’m hoping I can buy another Lumix GX85 soon as I miss having a rangefinder style body. I’m also tempted to get that Leica 15mm but I already have the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 so it’ll be difficult to justify that purchase 😅 Great video and pictures! The Lumix GX80/GX85 is such a beast for what it is.
My first system was a M43 Olympus EM5II and paired with the 12-40. It was a nice setup which made me hold onto M43 systems though I do have a Sony FF as well. I didn't learn of sensor sizes, dynamic ranges, etc. I just felt the images out of that camera was good. Glad that you found that M43 actually still has potential. I am worried the drive of APSC of Fuji and FF of Canon, Nikon and Sony. Even Lumix started focusing alot on FF. Thanks for showing case for M43 camera.
Yes ! The Lumix GX series and their previous GF series cameras and lenses yield very sharp images at that price point. The Lumix 20mm 1.7 and 14mm 2.5 primes are my favs especially for black and white images.
Well done there! I totally agree what you have shown here. I have used (and am still using) a small LX100 for travel and knowing the limitations of high ISO and M43 have been overwhelmed with the output of the sensor.
I use my full-frame Nikons for work, but my Panasonic GX85 w/Leica 15mm (30mm equivalent) is my walk-around camera. Paired with the Panasonic 55-200mm (82-300mm equivalent), it makes a great compact kit.
Not gonna lie, I actually sold an E-M1 Mark II and picked up a GX85 (what this is called in the US I guess? I know it's also a GX7 Mark II) plus a 20mm f1.7 primarily because of the screen...I hate the flippy out vloggy screens so much, the tilting screen to make low angle shots easier that tilts around enough for me to reach up a bit is the sweet spot. I've been using my Pentax KP more and more as a main camera, so getting selling the Olympus that's started to collect dust and picking up a decent kit to replace it for my mirrorless/interchangeable lens setup was a nice deal (plus I really like the rangefinder style body). They look like Leicas because Leica has a habit of rebadging Panasonics since way back with the Digilux 1 I think. To be fair I also have a LX100 that I use for out and about shots. You get a pretty solid set of glass inside of a solid MFT Pana shell. It's fixed lens, but for me the lens covers all the primes I typically use with step zoom. I'm hoping Panasonic releases an LX200 or something in the future so I can skip the minor upgrade from the LX100 to the LX100ii. For a camera like this I think the effective 16mp of the LX100ii is a pretty good number. I'd still pay a reasonable price for a tilting screen, and I guess updated internals? There's no much to nitpick, I would have rather the LX100ii stay the same resolution and gained a tilt screen personally.
My 28mm 1.7 is on my phone and so , I struggle to justify sticking one on the camera , which has the kit zoom 24-42, the 30 and 60 mm 2.8 lenses. As for the camera body I chose the em10 Mkii and pop everything in to a small Billingham digital bag . I agree that keeping things simple is the way to go and I enjoy street and travel as subject areas , blended with portraiture and the opportunity to create dreamy images , including of the dog and pack those in several photo books each year . I found the video interesting and now reflecting that I might venture to sticking that on the camera . Thanks for the suggestion
Now that was a surprise - your photo style, especially the colour work, looked very familiar to me, didn't take long to realize that I already found your IG a while back :) Just wanted to let you know that I adore your work!
I have one and use it as my main camera, though I also have Olympus and Panasonic Interchangeable lens MFT cameras. The zoom range is what I want 99% of the time and the fast apertures are an advantage, as is the compact nature of the camera.
I have a GX80 and GX9 and they both are incredible cameras. In a couple respects, I like the GX80 a little better. I suspect some of MFT's worst critics are only judging by the sensor size, or they haven't bothered to learn how to make the most of the MFT system. I've had extensive experience with (and owned) MFT, APS-C and FF cameras and I stick with MFT.
@@metphmet the exposure compensation dial on the GX9 is too stiff. It’s difficult to move the dial only one third of a stop at a time. I’m constantly moving it too far or have to move the camera away from my face to get the right angle with my thumb to move the stiff dial. On the GX80 I assign ex comp to the front dial and it moves more smoothly. (I usually shoot in aperture priority). The rear dial on the GX9 is a little harder to use because of the more prominent thumb grip just below it. Not huge complaints, but noticeable. The GX9 does have more advanced features overall, plus the AF/AFC/MF switch, which I really appreciate. There was one on the GX7, but not on the GX80.
If anyone is still interested, I just learned that you can (must) disable the physical EC dial on top of the GX9 and assign exposure compensation to the front dial. This is how I have my GX85/80 set up. The front dial on both models moves smoothly. It also means both my GX9 and GX85 have the same control setup. I was thrilled to learn I could do this. The EC dial on the GX9 is now useless, except it still looks really sexy. I have the impression that not everyone has the same issue with the EC dial on the GX9. Mine is not easily useable, though.
I have gx80 next to my A7 III and every time i look gx80 pictures I am amazed how sharp they are even tho having less megapixels than my sony even when using that collapsible kit lens
The GX80 is massively under rated. Even the 12-32 kit lens it comes with is great. Only thing I don't like is im not a fan of the micro 4/3 crop so I have to switch to 3:2 which means losing a little bit of image quality. If it was possible for them to really bring up the MP on the micro 4/3 sensor and put it in an updated version of the GX80 that would be awesome. For the price its a hard camera to beat
I have this exact set up and it is is a great photojournalism type set up. I should say that the video works incredibly well with the canon fds. The 50 1.4 in particular combined with the IBIS and a bit of tweaking of picture profiles and the vintage vs the digital shaporness balances out.
Check out the Panasonic 12-32 zoom. It is a slower lens, and feels cheap, but it is sharp and takes great photos. Plus, it collapses down into a pancake, making the GX-80 pocketable.
I love this camera. Really great video and stabilization. By the way, it's about the photographer mostly, not the gear. I've destroyed a lot of "photographers" with an older iPhone.
I had this exact setup. It's really cool and I would recommend it to anyone. It gets even cooler when paired with a telephoto lens. Because Panasonic 45/1.7 is too expensive (this 15/1.7 is unreasonable also) one can buy the Olympus 45/1.8 which looks like a toy but is a little gem. And amazing in terms of price/performance.
I seriously suggest hunting around for mft lenses...don't always buy from mainstream camera stores...there's stock around that people want to move. the 45/1.7 is a gem...the olympus 60/2.8 is super versatile too...macro and ultra sharp.
I agree on the Olympus 45mm. Having had the 42,5mm as well, I tend to say, the cheaper Olympus lens performs slightly better. And yes, the 15mm is a wonderful lens. Very sharp and pleasant.
It's a lovely set up combination, tho' I wouldn't exactly phrase your thumbnail descriptive as, "Budget", especially considering that I am two years late to this video - the body alone (now) at it's cheapest on mpb is £324.00; couple that with the Leica 15mm F1.7 ~ £349.00....it's no longer a bargain, for what ultimately, is a sophisticated point & shoot. The four thirds format, in & of itself is no more or less significant by comparison. I know MPB well - I've bought various Nikon DSLR components from them in the past, but the inclination to part with my heavier, more robust Nikons is not a desire I would wish to fulfill. That said, a very balanced overview - thank you.
I haven't been more thankful for the algorithm showing this to me
Aha excellent !!
@@frame-lines I was looking to get a Fuji X100F but this changed my mind as I’m looking for a travel camera
@@9ntice Or Ricoh GR III
@@9ntice The pen f will blow you away.
@@timpenner7858 What is a "Pen f" ?
You gotta love it when someone discovers MFT and realizes it's hugely better than the big-sensor snobs let on. Good for you for speaking up about it.
How is it better?
@@zverispetras You can make large prints that are indistinguishable from those from larger sensor cameras. The snobs figure that you can barely print a postcard from an MFT image.
This particular model sucked
@@timpenner7858 that's not true. Depends on the size
@@zverispetras For one thing, you can produce large prints that are indistinguishable from those from ff sensors. Then there's the superior image stabilization that lets you use long lenses handheld. And, finally, no one but the perfect-bokeh fetishists care at all that the bokeh from mft sensors is not always as creamy as that from ff. Of course, if you understand how bokeh is actually produced, then you can adapt your shooting to produce pleasing bokeh with any sensor.
I wish they would bring back the GX-9 body with the 26mp image sensor. I would be all over it. I had the GX-85 with the 20mm f 1.7 Lumix prime. I couldn't put it down. It was fun!
Even after all these years, this is still one of the most underrated cameras for street shooting ever made. So glad you made this video as it reminded me that I have one and should use it more.
Nice one cheers Alex
I disagree. I’ve been using the GX85 for the past 6 years, and while it does have some strengths, it is absolutely hopeless for street photography. The jpeg IQ is horrendous unless you’re around ISO 100-200 with a decent lens, with noise reduction and sharpness dialed right down. Even then, colours are atrocious. Need to shoot RAW if you shoot low light or want attractive colours. The EVF is so small and unclear, it’s difficult to know exactly what you’re shooting or what is in focus. AF is not that reliable or fast. Most importantly, it does not have a proper grip, and is therefore uncomfortable to hold for very long, and is quite slippery, easy to drop.
@mklives2 Alex Zafer, Frame-lines: "I like this camera! I think it's surprisingly good!"
MK Lives: "No it's not, it's not! Don't believe the evidence of your eyes and your inferior cogitation! Slippery grip! Slippery grip! Aargh!"
@@mklives2 Different strokes for different folks.
It sounds like you don’t like this camera. Yet you’ve kept it for six years. If I wasn’t too keen on one of my camera bodies I’d sell it for some other piece of gear I love. Sorry you don’t get on with your GX85.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
I’ve had everything from Pentax to Fuji to Leica…and I was one of those “never m43!l people that thought the fotos would look like something from a 2004 mobile phone. I purchased the LUMIX gx85/80 kit while it was on sale. My only regret is that I didn’t try m43 sooner. What an incredible system. I added the lumix 20mm 1.7 ll and then turn on the L Monochrome setting…the heavens open up and the angels start singing! I’ve heard from many people that Leica helped Panasonic create the L monochrome profile and I believe it, looks very very similar to the BW on my Leica. Honestly, my Leica has just sat in its bag ever since I got the lumix. If there’s anyone else out there on the fence about trying m43, I say don’t wait. You’re missing out on a great experience and a lot of fun. The photos have a nice natural look to them. Something that’s missing from many cameras in 2024, they all look too sharp, too sterile with flat feeling. M43 and lumix fotos have great rendering to them.
Finally! It's so nice to hear how much you enjoyed shooting with an M43 camera. They always get overlooked for flashier or more popular brands. Hope you enjoy it for years to come!
Nice one Will
I got me a GX-85 last year and I haven't really explored its full potential but seeing your samples got me inspired to do so. Cheers!
The Pansonic 15mm 1.7 is a gem for sure.
Yes indeed ❤️
I bought a used 15 1.7 ...branded as a DGI.....( used in drones).... Looks identical to the leica/ panasonic 15......for $150.00 less!!!!
I got a used one last year as my first proper camera and shot thousands of photos with it so far! It is an amazing piece of kit and if you keep the shutter speed low, using an f1.7 or brighter aperture, you can even make amazing shots in the dark (ex. I used it for a dark forrest themed Halloween photoshoot at midnight and couldn't believe my eyes, same for astrophotography with this tiny thing).
The sensor, as you point out, is far better at handling shadows than highlights. I always shoot manual and aim for a slightly underexposed photo if I'm shooting in a bright scene. Using luminar and the raw files, it's very easy to pull up the shadows but not pull down the highlights as they blow up quickly. I also limit my ISO to 1600, though 3200 is usable in a pinch. But realistically, due to stabilization and bright apertures, I rarely need to use ISOs above 800 in anything but a dark bar or restaurant for example.
Could you share a link to the photos you took & posted online , pls?
@@anisolo07 hey!
Sorry, even though I'd love to send you some examples, I'm a social media hermit. UA-cam is my only vice. I have no Instagram or something similar.
I can tell you that since I made that comment I got an A7 III and that is now my main camera. The Lumix remains in use about 20% of the time and I still love it. Gets very close results to the Sony, but the Sony has a much nicer view finder and of course cleaner images in the dark (up to iso 6400 is acceptable).
The Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 is a really nice combination on the GX series cameras. It doesn't say "Leica" on it, but it's among the sharpest lenses in the system, and it's *tiny*. My GX9 with that lens fits very comfortably in a jacket pocket. The only downside is slow autofocus.
Ah I’ll check that one out ! Cheers !!
I'll second that recommendation...can be had very cheaply if you hunt around. The slow autofocus isn't so bad once you get used to it...and the picture quality and size makes up for it in spades.
I just commented something similar! I use this lens on my Olympus em10 mark ii and I feel the same.. if it weren't for the af, I'd be totally pleased! I'm considering to switch to the Olympus 25 mm f1.8
@@supersflallifications1783 I think the Panasonic 25/1.7 is a better buy for a budget 25. Both are good lenses, but the Panasonic costs quite a bit less, and unlike the 20, it's autofocus is fast.
@@ZakWilson I forgot about it! It was my alternative to the 20mm that I ended up buying.. would you do the switch? It pains me to lose such a small and gorgeous lens, but could really use a faster autofocus and I’d love the 50mm eq focal length
I just picked up a GX80 in VGC with the 12-32 lumix lens. I'm very pleased as it's a great pocketable camera. I'm looking forward to trying a bit of street photography and night photography. thanks for the review.
I bought a used one of these several years ago and still use it regularly. Although I’m sure that Leica glass is excellent, I really love pairing it with vintage glass (Pentax in my case). That sensor is a perfect match for capturing the look of the “vintage” light coming through those older lenses and imbedding it into the raw files. No need to resort to goofy vintage filters in post. Just tweak exposure and go.
Nice one
where did you buy the adapter? What brand is it?
@@supersflallifications1783 There are a lot of inexpensive adapters available from B & H, etc. In my case, I use an adapter from Fotodiox called the Stretch, which is a bit more expensive, but, in addition to adapting the lens to the camera, it also provides a rotating adjustment that allows for some limited macro focus (it works very well and I use it a lot more than I thought I would). The stretch also comes with three magnetic drop-in ND filters that saves me from having to mess with screw on ND's.
I second this, i have used an old Zeiss T* 50 mm (for Contax) on my mft cameras. Nice look to the photos, but definately not as sharp as the native mft lenses! Another minus is the double focal length, so it’s kind of “all tele”…
I've been using a little GX9 for a few years with that PanaLeica 15mm lens. It's such a great and small combination. The 12-60 is a good additional lens which makes for a flexible and very compact travel system. I got your zine to this week, great work. As a coastal hogger myself, great work from Brighton! I've spent time lately around Hayling Island, Southsea Fort Cumberland just out of Portsmouth, may be not quite your cup of tea but it could be worth a look if you are back in the area!
Ah yes I’d love to check out those areas. Thanks so much for the support Mark - hugely appreciated
I’ve been using this camera for many years now. It really is a great walkabout, everyday carry.
Most recently, I’ve been using a Laowa 17mm f1.8 on this. It is manual focus, but the hyperfocal distance is essentially a few meters out to infinity at f5.6. So aperture prioty, and auto iso and you just have to frame.
I’ve also taken to have the camera bracket 3 at 1 stop over and under. Very fast way to work.
Welcome to the world of MFT. Don't let these UA-camrs saying MFT is dead fool you. They're VERY WRONG! Also, I'm a bit surprised you didn't know anything about the LUMIX GX series of cameras and the Panasonic Leica set of lenses. Anywho, the reason why you felt this camera was similar to the Leica Q is because Panasonic with Leica designed the Q and the Q2. The camera that's most like the Q's is the GX9.
I love that camera so much I decided to purchase it again after selling it last year instead of purchasing a Q2 or M10. As Shane told you the image quality of the files look very similar to Leica DNG's. I did an experiment for a month on IG hashtagging photo's from the GX9 as though they came from an M10 and people who shoot with the M10 regularly didn't realise the photos were from the GX9. Basically, proving a point I've been making for years. Leica camera bodies don't have an advantage over any other manufacturers camera bodies but maybe their lenses or better yet M mount lenses across the board do.
I'm primarily a Fujifilm X-Pro3 shooter but 50% of my lenses are M mount and I have them adapted across my entire kit. A kit which includes the LUMIX GX9, Leica CL mirrorless not film, Fujifilm X-Pro3 and the LUMIX S5. Shooting with the same Voigtlander M mount lenses on my Leica CL and the LUMIX GX9, the GX9 is a superior camera in everyway and the raw files as well as the jpegs coming out of it are better than what I get from the CL.
I'll end with this, those who call themselves street photographers could save themselves a LOT of money and headache if they invested in the LUMIX GX series of cameras with a good set of lenses. They'd find themselves having lots of fun with a powerful camera and more money in their pockets. And with that, I'm gone.
I got a GX85 as a present from the States with the 20mm f1.7 after reading about it previously on the late, Daved Thorpe's, channel.
I have large hands and use a L bracket with it that makes it a lot easier to shoot one handed with a wrist strap.
My other camera is a D700 and you couldn't get two cameras that are polar opposites. However, the results are glorious and they compliment each other.
Good to see that Framelines has is still going strong from when you made this video two years ago.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
Yeah. For those of us who don't have deep pockets it's heartening to have access to a whole load of secondhand gear in electrical exchange stores. I just purchased a Panni GX1 for £45! And the 14 to 42 mm lens for £60 and they even gave me a new charger with USB connection! Better then the wall plugging the originally came with camera. Now all that needs to happen is for it to stop raining!! Always rains when i get a new camera. Cheers
Just got mine, I like the color rendition more than my A7III
one of the best cameras ever made. in this combination with the Leica 15mm a blast.
Great review! I used that exact setup for several years before moving to Fuji. Despite its diminutive size, its packed with features. A fabulous street shooter.
Nice one Glen - thanks for watching
I've got a GX80 and I love it in a way I don't love my other photo gear. Use it with the 20mm f1.7 and 14mm f2.5 lenses for street and urban photography. Brilliant gear for the money. I hope to get the Pana/Leica 15mm at some point. Great video!
Hey, great intro - for me to LUMIX cameras. It look really compact n lite; as u said, a very useful EDC. Also your images looked so good they could hv bin taken on a Much more expensive set up. Very Cool !! (Also liked the look of yr magazine …). Thks.
Really great video & pics Josh. Couple of points I hope will be helpful. Consider the GX9 which as well as having various known upgraded features to the GX80 also has the ability to select a minimum shutter speed (like the G9) which I find v useful when shooting in AP mode and auto ISO. Regarding noise with M43 cameras; if you do find it is unacceptable at higher ISOs I recommend using DXO photo lab 4 and above and their Deep Prime noise reduction button it’s incredible & effectively removes 1 of the disadvantages of M43, all the best.
Nice one cheers Richard
I bought back into MFT again. Bought the GX80 too. Love the camera, paired with the 20mm shoot in 1:1 aspect ratio, just become i found it fun. The highlights blow out easily as you state correctly. I love the fact that you can take Lumix picture profiles and adjust then accordingly. Additional the image quality is great, rich good colours. Probably the best alternative for the overhyped Fujifilm x100v/vi (they haven't changed the lens much there) and it is so budget friendly. A steal
I bought this camera and lens combo because of you. I could not be more pleased. When shooting photo's, the focus is blazing fast. I am a Ricoh GR shooter and I might this setup better. Beautiful, rich images that are so pleasing. Thanks so very much for the tip. So much fun to use.
GX80 is the camera I have been using since I traded in my Canon APS slr as it was getting so heavy and too conspicuous. I’ve been very pleased with quality. I also combine it with traditional film lenses for different textures. I have been very happy with the tiny Olympus 45mm
My fav is the Olympus em1 MK2. Tough as nails, great auto focus even in video (phase detect), and very cheap price at this point. For travel, the weather sealing is fantastic! Great for street shots
I've been shooting with Olympus cameras since 1979! Can't be beat!!
I moved from Nikon FF to this camera. This is a great casual camera for street and event photography. I have since purchased a G9. The colors from the 20mp G9 sensor have a lot more depth. When I shoot the GX, I usually dial up B&W.
The PL 15 is a great small lens. Also in the category are the Oly 17 and Pana 20. Sharp, tiny, easily pocketable. Don't sleep on the kit 12-32, however. Tiny, sharp, quick, stabilized. The ONLY downside to the zoom is the max aperture. Ideal for a day shooting on the street.
I look forward to buying issue 2! And yup, I've been using Lumix kit for 10 years, glad you've discovered the joys and quality of the system. The 15mm is the 'everymans' Leica lens, and about the same price a 'real' Leica lens hood! The GX80 is a lovely little thing, an astounding bargain secondhand. The very similar GX9 has a newer, 20mp sensor, with slightly better image quality. You might want to try playing around with the dynamic range settings to improve highlight rendition, and the image sharpening for the 'over-sharpening' you mention. I'll look forward to Framelines No3 for your latest work shot on Lumix too...
Great - cheers Andrew!
Still one of my favorite cameras that I carry around almost daily. The size and price for the quality it gives is just amazing, can't recommend it enough.
This was my first - and until a couple of weeks ago, only - interchangeable-lens camera, bought I don't know when. Launch year or soon after. Going to be honest, I started to resent it for the poor light gathering and sharpness of the pictures I got; though I think my problems were that I was trying to shoot wildlife in gloomy forests rather than street photography, and I was using the slightly decrepit 45-200mm mega OIS lens.
Said camera bought a couple of weeks ago is an Olympus E-M1X with the 300mm prime lens. It's lush. But the curious thing is that now my GX80 isn't being pushed to be a stayfari whizz, I'm starting to use and appreciate it a lot more for what it can do. It helps that I've dived into photography on youtube, and been pleasantly surprised (and a bit reproached) by all the videos like this, as recently as a year ago, where it keeps making new fans.
A pair of GX80s were my go-to cameras for my motojournalist work. I traveled the world with them and got magazine covers and two page spreads published. It's a great tool.
What lens setup did you use
How can anyone that runs a UA-cam channel dedicated to street photography not be familiar with micro four thirds and the GX series of cameras?? Rookies! ;-) Glad Panasonic and m43 are getting some much deserved love and good choice selecting the 15mm lens, which has the awesome aperture ring. Compact street setup is the scenario where m43 really excels over larger formats.
I didn't have much money so after research thought this would be the best camera to get into photography last year. Paired with a cheap stock 25mm lens and it's amazing. Plan on using for quite a while longer. Nice vid, I will certainly subscribe and as an ex Londoner myself... You did well to take all those shots without too much hassle from the punters! Gotta watch your back on the Northern Line lol
Absolutely agree with this! Stellar combo
Nice one 🙌
For video settings, use Natural profile with sharpening, contrast, saturation and noise reduction dialed down to taste. 4k 25p in 100 mbps mp4 will give you very decent video files, especially for just walking around.
My copy arrived today. Highly recommended folks.
thanks so much Rob!
Good review. This camera is probably among the best values for street photographers as the 2-lens kit is now $600, plus the camera has stabilization, which makes it a more versatile and a better value over some of it's rivals. Considering getting one of these to accompany my FF camera system (for when I don't want to lug around a large camera and lenses -- in some cases, even taking a FF body and a travel zoom is overkill for some things and that's where I think MFT has the upper hand over APS-C, plus some APS-C camera systems are getting to be as big and heavy as FF cameras these days)
The equivalent of that Panasonic in my kit is the Olympus E-PL5! I just love that camera and use it for street photography all the time with the brilliant Olympus 25mm f1.8 lens. Thanks for the video.
Fabulous! I'm about to put mine up for sale and now I have a great recent review to pop in the ad. Cheers!
It's a great set up. I went up to the G9 and I've got a little Leica D-Lux for day to day and back up.
Great video Josh! Loving your pictures with the Gx80 ⚡ I've been using this camera for some years now and I love it more and more. It's so good to see other contents about it on UA-cam!
Nice one Cheers Jonathan
This was my first non DSLR camera, and have missed it ever since it broke. There’s a 17mm Olympus M Zuiko f2.8 you can pick up for around a £100, makes it such an awesome affordable street camera, but I also used it as a back up for a couple of professional jobs!
Wonderful camera. I´ve been using the GX9 now for 5 years and it has a flip screen - also a brilliant option.
The way you speak about it. We shoot the same way. Glad you found the m43 system 💯
The GX 80/85 is an excellent camera. It's one issue - in common with other Lumix compacts - is a failing rear dial contact. Fortunately your favourite mode can be assigned to the front dial, which has a more positive feel.
Been using a gx80 for a couple of years now and it’s got to be the best value for money street camera around , off to order issue 2
Aha cheers !!
Nice Video Josh. I've been shooting a GX80 since release in 2016, and absolutely love it. Micro Four Thirds isn't at all bad! I shoot mine with the Olympus 17mm f1.8 which is a great lens too. In fairness, the 12-32 kit lens that came with it was actually really good, and very cheap for anyone who might need a compact zoom, it's also stabilised so you get the benefits of Panasonic's dual IS system.
The IBIS is very impressive eh ! Cheers John !
I got myself a Fuji x100v but keep coming back to my gx85 cuz it’s so good
This is exactly the video I needed. Have been looking for an X100-type everyday camera but with a 50mm equivalent lens. This is the one. Thank you ✌🏼
Great to hear thanks Adam 🙌
You can switch the function on the 2 wheels for shutter and aperture. So the front metal wheel can be the shutterspeed and not the Plastik one on the back so you could use the ring on the lens for aperture and front wheel for shutterspeed and have a more high quality feeling
Love my Lumix GX9 and 12-60 kit lens…..sharp, quick and discrete…🌈📸😎
Nice one Peter
GX80 and Oly EM10 both are holy grail for street photography. Plus plenty of prime lenses to choose
What lenses do you recommend
@@thetwilightzone2541 Lumix 20mm f1.7 or Zuiko 17mm f1.8. Small and not expensive in 35mm FF.
You’re right. Can’t find a GX80 for sale
Dude ur photos have such a soothing feel to them
Also in the fun department: Lumix lx100 ii (or Leica d-lux 7).
You should check out the GX8... same body but the viewfinder is hinged, as is the LCD, the sensor is slightly higher res, 20MP, the body is splash proof (which if I’m not mistaken the GX9 is not), so overall same sensation and Panasonic signature images, but better body in every sense...
I had one for a bit, loved the OLED VF, way better than the gx80 but I thought the tilt was a bit of a gimmick, also zero difference in overall image quality IMO
That's my traveling kit! Lovely videos/color. Survived hikes and snow and multiple travels
Ha! I used a Lumix as my main camera at Kingston. Love those Leica lenses.
Very nice review. Although I have all formats from small sensors up to full frame, the model I will take with me on my next trip to Europe will no doubt be my 2 GX85 bodies and lenses. I just love using them and adapting vintage older lenses to them as well as regular Lumix and Olympus lenses. Great cameras.
With so many advantages over full frame it’s all I have used for 17 years
I didn't know much about this line, or m4/3 cameras in general. Seems like a great system and I'm inclined to give it a try.
I have to also say Josh - your images are recognizable regardless of the camera.
very much appreciated - thank you Patrick
GX80 / GX9 with the Leica lenses can’t go wrong ,
Just found your channel, so pleased I did, been binge watching and really like the content and style of presentation, well done. Just as a mention and pointer for others, it may help other shooter; I use the LUMIX GX9, I bought it used about 3 years ago purely for everyday and street use, love it to death. With the Panasonic 14 on her she slips in and out of a jacket pocket with ease, that lens is near to a pancake and only stands out at about 20mm out from the body. I also like to slip the Panasonic 25 1.7 in the other pocket, a quick lens change an that cheap kit lens brings with it a hole new perspective and creativity to your shots, not the sharpest but a lovely fast lens with a pleasant cinematic almost painterly look especially in mono. Looking forward to regular viewing of your channel. 👏📸
Hugely apprsciated cheers Andrew! I’ll check out the 25mm
I use a 8.1 megapixel Ricoh gr digital camera for street. I carry it with me everyday. Silent mode mostly set to black and white at 800 iso . I carry a spare battery and a card ready to upload to Instagram on the go.
I love it.
Nice one
Thanks. Still using it, aside the G80, also for my UA-cam Channel. The video is amazing.
I take this camera with me on tour and take pictures of all the bands I play with in b&w. Everyone really loves the look of them and it honestly works decent in low light.
Got this camera to learn photography as a hobby and I would say its great. Got mine as a package with a g.vario 12-32 mm lens
I recently bought this camera as a spare lighter camera . I have still a nikon d5500 which i still like as stands up well to more recent cameras albeit doesnt have 4k video. I dont use video a lot and hd video is good enough for me anyway.
I had it and used it for a long time. My favorite lenses were the Lumix 42,5mm and the 40mm macro. It is one of the best MFT, especially for the price. However, I sold it because I don't collect cameras, and the Nikon Z5 has a lot better dynamic range and many other improvements. With the 28mm it is similar to your setup and not much larger.
Reminds me of my GX7. They’re great little cameras.
Yes indeed !
The relationship between Panasonic and Leica for both cameras and lenses is longstanding. If you have the post skills &/or presets, you can indeed get very Leica-like colours from Panasonic bodies. Love the GX85, even with all its quirks.
Nice video - I recently picked up a GX80 after parting ways with it a few years ago. I have been shooting with the GR for a while so it has been nice to have a meatier camera in the hands. If you want a truer 28mm experience, the 14mm 2.5 is great and very cheap.
Nice one Luke
@@frame-lines Micro 4/3 multiplier is 2x. So a 15mm is actually 30mm full-frame equivalent. The pancake 20mm Lumix lens is actually 40mm full-frame equivalent and so on.
I bought a used GX85 with 12-32 Zoom for ICM-photography... most pics in BW, for this purpose I am very satisfied. The camera can do certainly more, but for this I am using a Sony A7CR.
Trouble with highlights on micro four thirds? First time I’ve heard anyone have that problem with the system given it can recover highlights miles better than the full frame sensor of a Sony A7III. My Olympus E-M5 III, Lumix G9, and old GX85 can easily recover blown out highlights with the Olympus being the best at it whereas my Sony A7III couldn’t do it to save its life. So I would have to expose for the highlights whereas I will expose for shadows with micro four thirds because I can easily recover highlights.
I’m hoping I can buy another Lumix GX85 soon as I miss having a rangefinder style body. I’m also tempted to get that Leica 15mm but I already have the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 so it’ll be difficult to justify that purchase 😅
Great video and pictures! The Lumix GX80/GX85 is such a beast for what it is.
My first system was a M43 Olympus EM5II and paired with the 12-40. It was a nice setup which made me hold onto M43 systems though I do have a Sony FF as well.
I didn't learn of sensor sizes, dynamic ranges, etc. I just felt the images out of that camera was good. Glad that you found that M43 actually still has potential.
I am worried the drive of APSC of Fuji and FF of Canon, Nikon and Sony. Even Lumix started focusing alot on FF.
Thanks for showing case for M43 camera.
Yes ! The Lumix GX series and their previous GF series cameras and lenses yield very sharp images at that price point. The Lumix 20mm 1.7 and 14mm 2.5 primes are my favs especially for black and white images.
Nice !
I love the G9. Lumix MFT features and photographic results are both useful and pleasing. I love MFT.
nice one thanks for watching
Well done there! I totally agree what you have shown here. I have used (and am still using) a small LX100 for travel and knowing the limitations of high ISO and M43 have been overwhelmed with the output of the sensor.
Cheers John !
My favorite camera since 2017. Just upgraded to the GH6. going to continue using the gx85 as everyday carry and b cam.
Nice !
I use my full-frame Nikons for work, but my Panasonic GX85 w/Leica 15mm (30mm equivalent) is my walk-around camera. Paired with the Panasonic 55-200mm (82-300mm equivalent), it makes a great compact kit.
Recently bought a GX9 with leica 15 and 9mm lenses
Not gonna lie, I actually sold an E-M1 Mark II and picked up a GX85 (what this is called in the US I guess? I know it's also a GX7 Mark II) plus a 20mm f1.7 primarily because of the screen...I hate the flippy out vloggy screens so much, the tilting screen to make low angle shots easier that tilts around enough for me to reach up a bit is the sweet spot. I've been using my Pentax KP more and more as a main camera, so getting selling the Olympus that's started to collect dust and picking up a decent kit to replace it for my mirrorless/interchangeable lens setup was a nice deal (plus I really like the rangefinder style body). They look like Leicas because Leica has a habit of rebadging Panasonics since way back with the Digilux 1 I think.
To be fair I also have a LX100 that I use for out and about shots. You get a pretty solid set of glass inside of a solid MFT Pana shell. It's fixed lens, but for me the lens covers all the primes I typically use with step zoom. I'm hoping Panasonic releases an LX200 or something in the future so I can skip the minor upgrade from the LX100 to the LX100ii. For a camera like this I think the effective 16mp of the LX100ii is a pretty good number. I'd still pay a reasonable price for a tilting screen, and I guess updated internals? There's no much to nitpick, I would have rather the LX100ii stay the same resolution and gained a tilt screen personally.
I'm obsessed with your editing ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
My 28mm 1.7 is on my phone and so , I struggle to justify sticking one on the camera , which has the kit zoom 24-42, the 30 and 60 mm 2.8 lenses. As for the camera body I chose the em10 Mkii and pop everything in to a small Billingham digital bag .
I agree that keeping things simple is the way to go and I enjoy street and travel as subject areas , blended with portraiture and the opportunity to create dreamy images , including of the dog and pack those in several photo books each year .
I found the video interesting and now reflecting that I might venture to sticking that on the camera .
Thanks for the suggestion
Thank you very much for the review. Excellent job.
I thought this video was CGI at the beginning. This is amazing.
i really like how you edit your pictures and also how your video looks
Now that was a surprise - your photo style, especially the colour work, looked very familiar to me, didn't take long to realize that I already found your IG a while back :) Just wanted to let you know that I adore your work!
I use the Lumix 25 mm 1.7 fixed lens on my GX9. Results are outstanding. I protect the highlights with the zebra's. Works well.
Good to know!
I have one and use it as my main camera, though I also have Olympus and Panasonic Interchangeable lens MFT cameras. The zoom range is what I want 99% of the time and the fast apertures are an advantage, as is the compact nature of the camera.
I have a GX80 and GX9 and they both are incredible cameras. In a couple respects, I like the GX80 a little better. I suspect some of MFT's worst critics are only judging by the sensor size, or they haven't bothered to learn how to make the most of the MFT system. I've had extensive experience with (and owned) MFT, APS-C and FF cameras and I stick with MFT.
Why you liked gx80 better?
same question.
@@metphmet the exposure compensation dial on the GX9 is too stiff. It’s difficult to move the dial only one third of a stop at a time. I’m constantly moving it too far or have to move the camera away from my face to get the right angle with my thumb to move the stiff dial. On the GX80 I assign ex comp to the front dial and it moves more smoothly. (I usually shoot in aperture priority). The rear dial on the GX9 is a little harder to use because of the more prominent thumb grip just below it. Not huge complaints, but noticeable. The GX9 does have more advanced features overall, plus the AF/AFC/MF switch, which I really appreciate. There was one on the GX7, but not on the GX80.
If anyone is still interested, I just learned that you can (must) disable the physical EC dial on top of the GX9 and assign exposure compensation to the front dial. This is how I have my GX85/80 set up. The front dial on both models moves smoothly. It also means both my GX9 and GX85 have the same control setup. I was thrilled to learn I could do this. The EC dial on the GX9 is now useless, except it still looks really sexy. I have the impression that not everyone has the same issue with the EC dial on the GX9. Mine is not easily useable, though.
I have gx80 next to my A7 III and every time i look gx80 pictures I am amazed how sharp they are even tho having less megapixels than my sony even when using that collapsible kit lens
The GX80 is massively under rated. Even the 12-32 kit lens it comes with is great. Only thing I don't like is im not a fan of the micro 4/3 crop so I have to switch to 3:2 which means losing a little bit of image quality. If it was possible for them to really bring up the MP on the micro 4/3 sensor and put it in an updated version of the GX80 that would be awesome. For the price its a hard camera to beat
Yeah I had no idea it wasn’t default 3:2 😅😅
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I have this exact set up and it is is a great photojournalism type set up. I should say that the video works incredibly well with the canon fds. The 50 1.4 in particular combined with the IBIS and a bit of tweaking of picture profiles and the vintage vs the digital shaporness balances out.
Ah nice - I’ll give that a try !
Check out the Panasonic 12-32 zoom. It is a slower lens, and feels cheap, but it is sharp and takes great photos. Plus, it collapses down into a pancake, making the GX-80 pocketable.
I love this camera. Really great video and stabilization. By the way, it's about the photographer mostly, not the gear. I've destroyed a lot of "photographers" with an older iPhone.
great no nonsense video will be following.
Thanks Matt!!
Nice video Josh. Very interesting piece of kit.
I had this exact setup. It's really cool and I would recommend it to anyone. It gets even cooler when paired with a telephoto lens. Because Panasonic 45/1.7 is too expensive (this 15/1.7 is unreasonable also) one can buy the Olympus 45/1.8 which looks like a toy but is a little gem. And amazing in terms of price/performance.
The 15/F1.7 is a great lens. You get what you pay for.
I seriously suggest hunting around for mft lenses...don't always buy from mainstream camera stores...there's stock around that people want to move. the 45/1.7 is a gem...the olympus 60/2.8 is super versatile too...macro and ultra sharp.
I agree on the Olympus 45mm. Having had the 42,5mm as well, I tend to say, the cheaper Olympus lens performs slightly better. And yes, the 15mm is a wonderful lens. Very sharp and pleasant.
It's a lovely set up combination, tho' I wouldn't exactly phrase your thumbnail descriptive as, "Budget", especially considering that I am two years late to this video - the body alone (now) at it's cheapest on mpb is £324.00; couple that with the Leica 15mm F1.7 ~ £349.00....it's no longer a bargain, for what ultimately, is a sophisticated point & shoot. The four thirds format, in & of itself is no more or less significant by comparison. I know MPB well - I've bought various Nikon DSLR components from them in the past, but the inclination to part with my heavier, more robust Nikons is not a desire I would wish to fulfill. That said, a very balanced overview - thank you.
I have the LX100 and love it. Pixels have been oversold, on my Sony DSCR1 from 2005 at 10mp it produces stunning 20x30 prints.
Any links to check out your pics,please?