Everything depends on what you use your truck for. I have a 2019 Ram Power Wagon that I use as more of a work truck than an off-roader. I run a ranch in Montana and I need a vehicle that can haul hay and equipment across, muddy, snowy, and rocky terrain. So far, after nearly 5 years, these tires have never let me down.
I am getting a new set of Dura Tracs installed on my Ram 3500 next week. I have had the older version for 14 years and they are just starting to show some cracks between the treads. I have found the older ones to be very durable and that they provided very good traction in ice and snow. Looking forward to the even better traction and highway performance of the newer version. Great review!
I had these installed 2 months ago on my 2023 Frontier Pro4x, 265 70 17, I love them and they look great. Truck drives and handles so much better. My cost was all 4 tires installed.. 1,098.00 US. dollars.
I also have a 2023 Frontier PRO-4X , I had a 2018 frontier with Goodyear ultra terrain tires , have you considered these at all I’m putting them on the new frontier this weekend, I was always skeptical of the duratracs
Liked it. Have the Duratraks on my F350 Tremor and very happy so far at 55K (definitely louder than new though). Lots of tread left for a bit anyway! I have used them off road in Moab on the rocks and desert in Sedona while towing. I have zero complaints. It tough to think how much better the KO's might be lol! Keep up the great work!
Before we can criticize the depth of the siping, you must first understand why they did it - and that is to prevent tread block squirm. You need to understand that not all tread patterns are optimized for every vehicle. A Toyota Tacoma isn't going to experience tread squirm, but a 1 ton pickup will. This happens a lot when dealers don't ask the right questions when selling siping (you can sipe used tires), and then the customer takes their vehicle out, throws it into a corner and damn near ends up in the ditch because the tire behaves in a completely different manner now. BFG gets away with it because of the actual tread design, there's much more surface area to the tread blocks where the Dura Trac is more open. The BFG's don't hold a candle to the Dura Trac in the snow, so you just need to know the actual purpose of the tire along with the vehicle that they're installed on. Trade off's just like everything else in the world. Thanks for the video man!
I've been using the older Duratracs for years on several work and personal trucks. I run studs when new and after a couple winters I pull the studs and use them as summer tires while getting a new set of freshly studded ones for the winter again. The lack of stud holes on the new Duratracs is a concern for me.
I had duratracs on my ram rebel I loved them the first 2 winters but then they didn’t quite have the original grip even though there was plenty of tread left. I replaced them with ko2s. Now slightly stiffer ride but good grip in most situations and quieter on the road. One thing though in really deep snow the new duratracs were definitely better performing.
I'm running the Toyo Open Country AT3 and really love them. Bought my 2019 F350srw with the 6.7 and it had the Goodyear wrangler with Kevlar. Got 32,000 miles on them and they were worn out. Not a good tire for a heavy truck. Bought the Toyo Open Country AT3s and have 41,000 miles on them and are still going strong. I always rotate my tires at 5,000 miles. Tires have no chopping and are quite.
I think think the weight is certainly a factor. my Ram 1500 with Duratracs wore in much better. I'm honestly thinking about going woth K03 but we'll see.
@@loriburke928 I would say it is the same. I did notice the Toyo Open Country AT3 tires are better at towing. I get a little less wiggle/sway in the rear.
My truck came stock with the non 3 peak duratrac and they have worn terrible. I rotate my tires every 5k and it still isn’t enough to keep them from chopping and shaking constantly. They have definitely lost snow traction with age but have lasted 100000 km so that’s been good. I can’t wait to get Toyo open country at, hopefully they wear better and don’t shake so bad. I also have had my truck realigned twice in that 100000km and it made no difference.
I had the old duratracs put on my ram 1500. Lasted 60k miles. I wasn’t too sure on the new duratracs so I went with the jockey Thompson baja AT. Hopefully the new duratracs wear and work just as good as the originals and I can get a set when the Mickey’s wear out. We’ll see how people like them in 5 years!
My Sierra came with the Duratracs on it; as far as driving performance they were fine, but as the wore, everyone always complained about the noise, they thought I had bad wheel bearings. Although I liked the aggressive look, truth be told, swapping to Michelins has been better as far as commuting, towing, where most of my mileage is…
The Duratrac's never worn well on our Superduty work trucks and had two tread failures. Not a good gravel road tire. Currently running Toyo Open Country AT3's loving them.
Same here on Denali hd. All the time out of balance, uneven wear, noisy like hell. Not a single good thing I could say about Duratracs. Very happy with BF Goodrich KO2
I had a similar experience with them on an F150. Not great wear or treadlife but great performance off road and in snow. I had the opposite experience with them on a Tacoma. Lasted over 60k miles and they wore very evenly. Still great performance.
Same with the duratrack on my old truck (2015 gmc 3500) never held up. Had the toyo at3's on my new truck (2023 gmc 3500), tread didn't hold up under load, tread blocks were separating from the tire at 9k miles had to.replace. Went back to the bfg at ko's...for snow there really is no better imo. They really need to make a hd tire with the triple peak snow rating. I've tired them all.. There all...mehhhh.
The siping not going all the way down is a huge issue. Makes the tires useless in snow halfway through their life. Try out the Firestone destination X/Ts this next winter. Full depth siping. I run them and love them
I have KO2’s on my ram 2500. 40k miles on mine and still plenty of sipes. Mine are wearing more on the outside just like yours. I’m not going to flip anything on the rims, just going to get new tires in about 10k miles. I like the new RT Goodyears, torn between those, KO3s, and Wildpeak AT4.
Ive had Duratracs on last 4 trucks. Consistently get 2 good years(winters) out of them.....40k kms or so. 3rd winter the siping is worn down and ice traction/wet traction sucks. I siped my own tires.....i might get another winter or 2 out of them now. Awesome in mud,a little noisy on the highway. Never had a side puncture. The RT's look good,even more siping....they will be my next tires.
I run the duratracs on my Yukon XL and on my Ram 1500. Just cause where I live is a rural area, and where I live when it rains our roads are gravel and mud. So we need that extra bit in the mud, plus with my 1500 I use the duratracs when I’m working in pasture fields and in the forest for when hunting season is around. Never had any problems with the duratracs, they preformed as need.
My duratrac’s are at 52k on my 21 gmc at4 , they have been a great tire until the last two months. They are by no means bald but as the tire has worn these thing howl going down the road. I’m not complaining I got 52k out of them but I feel I am changing them out while they still have plenty f tread life on them.
I am wondering what you think about these new RTs for towing. I have a ram 2500 diesel that I use for towing occasionally and I’m considering these tires.
Duratrac are good for light cars (Grand Cherokee) in sand, snow or mud. Unfortunately, they are very bad for heavier cars or rocky terrain. I was surprised at how unreliable the original Duratracs were. Hopefully the updated model will be finally good.
I had a set of og duratracs on my old diesel pickup. I really liked them the first year but once they started to wear , wow did they get loud and wore badly . At that time my truck was new and in perfect condition. I rotated them every oil change . Currently run a set of falken wild peak at3 on my newer 2500 duramax and was pleased with them but now at 40000km and 3rd season they are cracking in between the tread blocks and side wall. I hauled my old camper 200 km to sell and picked up my new camper maybe 400 km back to our lot. Other than that once a month I tow a 14 x8 enclosed atv trailer . Kinda disappointed with the falkens , half the tread life left but I don’t trust the tires now due to the cracking I have only seen cracking on older tires 6-10 years old. I run a dedicated winter tire on separate rims so the falkens will be parked very soon and trashed. I guess I will figure out what tires to buy over the winter. I don’t mind spending the money if the tires would last according to the manufactures claim.
I'm in New Brunswick and have these tires as well, and I'm glad you mentioned the shallow sipes. I'm heading into my 3rd Winter with them and not looking forward to it, at all. I strongly considering the Motomaster X-Trail as my next tire. Good price, C.T. has good replacement warranty, and they're made by Cooper.
I ran 2 sets of X-Trail. Worked well and stood up to mine pit driving well. Snow great, Ice not bad. CT is a joke of a shop and sick of going elsewhere for install, rotations etc.. Running the nokian Outpost NAT now and so far great tire as far as ride, occasional mud etc.. Great winter reviews but I will see. 100K warranty sounds good. If your CT location is good to you I would run the X.
we've been running the duratrak on our tacoma for years, and it's snow performance is awesome. It also handles itself well in mud when we are hunting. We would have it on our one ton, but they don't make them at a high enough weight rating so we had to go with something else for the big truck.
What weight rating do you need for your one ton? My dad has ran three sets on his Ford F350 diesel and is ordering his fourth set. The first two sets he got 50K out of each set, while hauling a large slide-in Lance camper. Goodyear makes an E-rated tire with a 4,000+ pound rating per tire.
Having siping all the way through will make the tread weak as it wears down. You have more chance of ripping entire treads off on rough terrain. Shallow siping keeps the tread together for longer. I live in Australia, and frequent rough barron land adventures and the new RTs are the best. Previously run Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT I would say the Goodyear are in a league of their own.
I get that, and it makes sense but it is interesting how the Ko3 with a good amount of siping have it throught the entire tread. If I lived in Australia (actually been there for 3 months in 2016) I wouldn't care about the siping but in the snow and on ice it makes a big difference. may run a dedicated winter tire idk we'll see lol
if you ended up keeping these tires, what were the actual measurements on the tire compared with the sidewall? Curious to see if they run a bit small or really small.
i have the duratrac on my 2017 Silverado and love them got me out of snow and muddy grass in so many ways i am looking too replace them with the new tires
I just ordered the Duratrac RTs for my Ranger Raptor - which came with BFG KO2s from factory. they perform horrible in wet conditions, so I hope the Duratracs will be a safer tire for wet and winterly conditions. what are your impression regarding noise at highway speeds with the RTs?
There is a really good reason that the siping doesnt go all the way through. Tire squirm is a big deal especially on a tire with as large of open voids as the Duratracs have. Trade Offs in everything.
Happy to see the upgraded sidewalls. But then they turned around and ruined them by wrapping the tread down the side wall. That's obviously not going to help when aired down... What were they thinking....
I ran duratracs for years and loved them. Found they were not very good in the snow the last winter I had them. Probably because like you said the siping was gone. I put a set of motomaster eliminator x-trails on my truck last fall and absolutely love them. Better then the duratracs were brand new in my opinion. Cheaper as well. Check them out at canadian tire
On my 3rd gen Tacoma stock tires 37lbs... KO2's e-rated 53lbs OVER 60lbs more rotating mass. 265/70/16 stock, now 265/75/16 now 1" bigger tire but MUCH heavier
Love mine, have them on both trucks, 2020 GMC 3500HD AT4(265/75-20), and 2024 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Trail Boss LT(265/75-18), both diesel... IF I had to fault these tires, they are pricey...
I have Duratracs on my Colorado and Duratrac RT's on my Land Rover. Both have good grip in all conditions when new. After 20k miles, they feel like hockey pucks on wet roads. The tread lasts over 50k but there's no wet weather confidence past 20k
We've had two sets on two different trucks and that has been the case with both, still plenty of tread but wet traction is completely out the window. 🥴
i don't know if I will switch to the rt i love my durtrack on my 2021 7.3 f250 i work for pipeline and all different terrain and towing i had ko2 and they sucked for me
Live/work in western canadian rockies.... ko2 all the way for me... long lasting and I can tell you tough as hell... great in the snow/rock/dirt... do good enough in mud... we use duratrac on our work trucks... good tires but ko2s are definitely better. FROM MY OVERTAXED, UNDERSIZED, IGLOO ON THE MOUNTAIN IN ALBERTA
Love what i was seeing. I'm a huge duratrax guy. I've had 4 sets on my gmc 2500. And at point where you showed that a goodyear tire was not made in America you just lost a loyal customer never by goodyear again.
@17:00, not sure if it may be a cause of uneven wear, but a coworkers dodge needed to have the shocks changed up front due to uneven wear. He had more of a cupping issues though. also i dont know if or when you may have put new shocks in. just food for thought
Glad my grand cherokee has 18's🤣 also get a 25% discount on goodyear tires from my car insurance. A full set is gonna be like $1030. Thinking about moving back to south dakota next year and im looking at these as like a winter specfic set
The Duratrak 275/70R18 on all the Rebels DO NOT have the snowflake symbol, which means it’s a harder rubber compound, the other sizes like 275/65R18 DO have the snowflake symbol which is a softer compound. My 2020 Rebel has 105,000km, my tires are still good for one more year, they are not very good on icy roads because of the harder rubber. I do install winter wheel for 3 months during the winter, so in reality the Duratrak tires do not have 105,000km on them, however I barely travel with my truck in the winter months, so I would say the Duratrak tire have approximately 90,000km on them.
I had the the old version of the duratracs on my trail boss when I bought it and they became so loud on the road (yes I did rotate) I had get rid of them at 25k miles. I bought BFG's and am well over the 25k mark now and they are much quieter than the old duratracs. I am now purchasing a ZR2 (has 22k miles on it) that comes with the new style Duratracs. Should I have the dealer swap those with my BFG's when I trade in or is anyone noticing these are better? Maybe I just had a bad batch first time around but I said I would never drive goodyear again.
On my f150 i had 122km on dtracs, and got 140km on KO2s. For my driving style, the ko2 was smoother, quieter, better on fuel. On my 3/4 service truck i had good luck with the 1 set if dtracs i tried. Got 70km on them before i put on new tires for the winter. Replaced them with Ridge Grapplers, doing well so far. (But slightly louder, worse on ice and worse gas mileage) Those are minor complaints on a work truck tho.
@@TheGettyAdventures my service truck weighs 10,500lbs, with 50/50 hwy and oil field roads. I've ran Nokian rock proofs, duratracs and now ridge grappler on the service truck. I wouldn't advise ridge grappler for you as they are not a snowflake rated tire. My ko2s I replaced with Toyo At3, they have been really good so far. Heavier duty than the ko2s, but I like them. Unless you are doing lots of offroad, I would rank them BFG, Toyo At3, then duratrac. My ram 2500 is running Yokohama geolander ats and they are a fantastic hwy tire. Really like them for that.
I believe the issue with tire wear is related to rim size. I have 17 inch rims and 20s. My 17 inch rim the duratracs wear ok. With minimal tire rotation. My 20s with the duratracs sucks for tire wear. I believe the larger rotation makes for more imbalance issues which correlates to the poor tire wear. Unfortunately I think that this is just the result of having a larger rotating mass on the road. Makes these tires harder to maintain a descent tread wear. Hence s why I will be switching back to my 17s.
Interesting to mention tire balance, on my ram 1500 with 20inch rims it was hard to get the duratracs to balance properly. always felt a slight vibration.
Rams spec for alignments are off. At least for the 4th gens. Not sure about the 5th gens. I had similar wear on my 17 power wagon and had my alignment guy set toe to 0 and have had not issues since.
I have run old duratracs studded and not studded.... Doesn't seem to do much on this sort of tire. I think there's just too much give, the contact patch is very spread out... the studs don't get much pressure. I think they work better aired down than with studs on ice and snow. All of the changes to the "new" duratrac would make it my year-round tire of choice if they would offer it in my size. I run STT Pro in summer and duratrac winter because I don't trust a duratrac sidewall on brutally rocky 4x4 trails.
Ran plenty of dura tracs. I switched a long time ago to Cooper ST maxx and will never ever look back. Rain, snow, mudd and longevity the ST maxx blow the Dura Tracs away.
Have about 26k miles on them on my 21 power wagon and all four are wearing like that so it isn't alignment. Since that R/T is that expensive I guess I may be going K03 or Wildpeak next. Hate to spend that on an all I almost always run a mud terrain but I don't think they'll hold up on this truck as well as other vehicles.
The dealership told me the same thing. They said for whatever reason the Duratracs on the power wagons always wear in like that. they said the best thing to do is flip them on the rim once a year.
@@TheGettyAdventuresThey haven't worn well though they are starting to cup so I'm not sure it's worth it or not to flip them. Would they even be able to rebalance them? Probably but might not be perfect. Still not gonna hate on them I've had them on other vehicles and I think they're a great tire but think I'll need a new set before Maine winter gets here.
Great video… I’m a Cooper man. Hella bang for the buck! Side question… why is your frame and suspension black, is that undercoating for salt to prevent rust?
Thank you! And yes the frame, suspension and basicly the whole underside of the truck is covered in undercoating. It's really the only way to help these things from rusting out after 8-10 years.
@@TheGettyAdventures Luckily w'ere on the other end of vehicle life. The powertrain gives out before the body even rusts. I had a Honda Accord I got 279,000 miles out of before the compression rings went. Body was still spotless.
So, in my size the RT's are ~$50 more per tire and they moved manufacturing offshore? Shouldn't that save us money? No thanks.... Might be a reason for me to try something different or stick with the standard duratracs. My wife gets 75K out of s set of 5 of these on her Wrangler Unlimited. I think Falken will get my money when I replace the tires on my Tundra
Maybe now they won't just randomly have the sidewall split and fail with more than half the tread left. I won't buy goodyear ever again, and not because the tire failed, well partially because it failed, but because they wouldn't back the failure. The guy at my local goodyear store said i should have used more high-quality rubber protectant if it was going to be parked outside where the sun could hit it.
You should find some Nokian Outposts and check them out. Have had Duratracs and K02s in past and they were good, but I was recommended to try to Nokian Outposts by my local tire shop and decided to do it and so far the Outposts on my F150 are probably the best AT tires I’ve ever owned. I always found the Duratracs way too stiff/harsh on dry pavement. I’d never buy them again.
They definitely are rough riding, especially on a 420,000km 05 Silverado. I'm happy with them because I have to drive into some sketchy areas and have never gotten stuck while working. I was recently sent on a 3000km trip to Northern Ontario with a 2021 canyon with 30k and highway tires. It rode like a Cadillac compared to my old Silverado with 70k on the duratracs.
I’ve ran duratracs and KO2s. Replaced a set of KO2s with duratracs I replaced the duratracs within 20000kms with another set of KO2s and haven’t looked back
I've found over the years that the single biggest difference in tyres (of any type) is price; not performance, durability or longevity. Especially considering in this part of the world, most of the tyres we get these days are made in China.
I have the Duratrac RT’s on my Tacoma and they did fantastic last winter. They do comparably well against the old Duratracs and Kenda Klever RT KR601’s. So far they’ve been better in every way, though I haven’t had them in mud and don’t plan to, I hate mud! Haha I’ve never been a fan of KO2’s. I have driven well over 100 customer vehicles with them and they are very inconsistent. Especially in cold weather (15F and below) they are rock hard and loose traction very easily.
That is the once nice thing about the duratracs with that softer compound is when new they grip very well in the cold. the K03's are supposed to have a softer compound to perform better in colder weather but we'll see I guess. and yes Mud is something I typically avoid lol
Everything depends on what you use your truck for. I have a 2019 Ram Power Wagon that I use as more of a work truck than an off-roader. I run a ranch in Montana and I need a vehicle that can haul hay and equipment across, muddy, snowy, and rocky terrain. So far, after nearly 5 years, these tires have never let me down.
I am getting a new set of Dura Tracs installed on my Ram 3500 next week. I have had the older version for 14 years and they are just starting to show some cracks between the treads. I have found the older ones to be very durable and that they provided very good traction in ice and snow. Looking forward to the even better traction and highway performance of the newer version. Great review!
I had these installed 2 months ago on my 2023 Frontier Pro4x, 265 70 17, I love them and they look great. Truck drives and handles so much better. My cost was all 4 tires installed.. 1,098.00 US. dollars.
I also have a 2023 Frontier PRO-4X , I had a 2018 frontier with Goodyear ultra terrain tires , have you considered these at all I’m putting them on the new frontier this weekend, I was always skeptical of the duratracs
@@THE2NDDAWN i chose the Duaratrac for the 3 ply and the RT are a all terrain and a mud tire combined, I love the way my truck drives now.
I bought a set of the RT's and have them off road a couple times and they preformed great.
Liked it. Have the Duratraks on my F350 Tremor and very happy so far at 55K (definitely louder than new though). Lots of tread left for a bit anyway! I have used them off road in Moab on the rocks and desert in Sedona while towing. I have zero complaints. It tough to think how much better the KO's might be lol! Keep up the great work!
They are great off-road, won't let ya down but yes the noise is something that comes with wear lol
Yep they messed up not putting the siping all the way through tread again. That’s what makes defender LTX MS the best !
Before we can criticize the depth of the siping, you must first understand why they did it - and that is to prevent tread block squirm. You need to understand that not all tread patterns are optimized for every vehicle. A Toyota Tacoma isn't going to experience tread squirm, but a 1 ton pickup will. This happens a lot when dealers don't ask the right questions when selling siping (you can sipe used tires), and then the customer takes their vehicle out, throws it into a corner and damn near ends up in the ditch because the tire behaves in a completely different manner now. BFG gets away with it because of the actual tread design, there's much more surface area to the tread blocks where the Dura Trac is more open. The BFG's don't hold a candle to the Dura Trac in the snow, so you just need to know the actual purpose of the tire along with the vehicle that they're installed on. Trade off's just like everything else in the world. Thanks for the video man!
I've been using the older Duratracs for years on several work and personal trucks. I run studs when new and after a couple winters I pull the studs and use them as summer tires while getting a new set of freshly studded ones for the winter again. The lack of stud holes on the new Duratracs is a concern for me.
I had duratracs on my ram rebel I loved them the first 2 winters but then they didn’t quite have the original grip even though there was plenty of tread left. I replaced them with ko2s. Now slightly stiffer ride but good grip in most situations and quieter on the road. One thing though in really deep snow the new duratracs were definitely better performing.
Agreed, the deep snow performance of the duratracs is very good. but after 2 winters the grip is gone.
I'm running the Toyo Open Country AT3 and really love them. Bought my 2019 F350srw with the 6.7 and it had the Goodyear wrangler with Kevlar. Got 32,000 miles on them and they were worn out. Not a good tire for a heavy truck. Bought the Toyo Open Country AT3s and have 41,000 miles on them and are still going strong. I always rotate my tires at 5,000 miles. Tires have no chopping and are quite.
I think think the weight is certainly a factor. my Ram 1500 with Duratracs wore in much better. I'm honestly thinking about going woth K03 but we'll see.
Hi… did you notice any change in MPG with the Toyo’s? Thanks…
@@loriburke928 I would say it is the same. I did notice the Toyo Open Country AT3 tires are better at towing. I get a little less wiggle/sway in the rear.
Great video. I also run DuraTracs and find them surprisingly good for towing. A lot of my friends really like the Falken Wildpeak A/T3W.
My truck came stock with the non 3 peak duratrac and they have worn terrible. I rotate my tires every 5k and it still isn’t enough to keep them from chopping and shaking constantly. They have definitely lost snow traction with age but have lasted 100000 km so that’s been good. I can’t wait to get Toyo open country at, hopefully they wear better and don’t shake so bad. I also have had my truck realigned twice in that 100000km and it made no difference.
Your reviews are outstanding
well thank you sir!
I had the old duratracs put on my ram 1500. Lasted 60k miles. I wasn’t too sure on the new duratracs so I went with the jockey Thompson baja AT. Hopefully the new duratracs wear and work just as good as the originals and I can get a set when the Mickey’s wear out. We’ll see how people like them in 5 years!
My Sierra came with the Duratracs on it; as far as driving performance they were fine, but as the wore, everyone always complained about the noise, they thought I had bad wheel bearings. Although I liked the aggressive look, truth be told, swapping to Michelins has been better as far as commuting, towing, where most of my mileage is…
A/T from Walmart 17” rim. $115 a piece. Ram truck. Plus $100 alignment. 4 + alignment = $568. Plus 3 peak rated.
The Duratrac's never worn well on our Superduty work trucks and had two tread failures. Not a good gravel road tire. Currently running Toyo Open Country AT3's loving them.
Same here on Denali hd. All the time out of balance, uneven wear, noisy like hell. Not a single good thing I could say about Duratracs. Very happy with BF Goodrich KO2
Another vote for the AT3 here
Was the Duratrac you got the old model or this new model? I'm kinda curious about this new duratracs.
I had a similar experience with them on an F150. Not great wear or treadlife but great performance off road and in snow. I had the opposite experience with them on a Tacoma. Lasted over 60k miles and they wore very evenly. Still great performance.
Same with the duratrack on my old truck (2015 gmc 3500) never held up.
Had the toyo at3's on my new truck (2023 gmc 3500), tread didn't hold up under load, tread blocks were separating from the tire at 9k miles had to.replace.
Went back to the bfg at ko's...for snow there really is no better imo.
They really need to make a hd tire with the triple peak snow rating.
I've tired them all..
There all...mehhhh.
The siping not going all the way down is a huge issue. Makes the tires useless in snow halfway through their life.
Try out the Firestone destination X/Ts this next winter. Full depth siping. I run them and love them
They have full depth siping.
@@Jaredius no.... they dont
I have KO2’s on my ram 2500. 40k miles on mine and still plenty of sipes. Mine are wearing more on the outside just like yours. I’m not going to flip anything on the rims, just going to get new tires in about 10k miles.
I like the new RT Goodyears, torn between those, KO3s, and Wildpeak AT4.
Does your RAM have 20 inch tires like mine? They won't have ko3s for a 20-inch rim until May 2025
@@redeyetrucker520 I have 18-inch wheels on mine.
Thats awesome. I had the original duratracs on my jeep, glad to hear they did upgrades. Thank you.
I've run Nitto Ridge Grapplers on my current and last truck. Very happy with them so far :)
Me too with the Nitto. This is after running Duratrac's for almost 10 years
Ive had Duratracs on last 4 trucks.
Consistently get 2 good years(winters) out of them.....40k kms or so.
3rd winter the siping is worn down and ice traction/wet traction sucks.
I siped my own tires.....i might get another winter or 2 out of them now.
Awesome in mud,a little noisy on the highway.
Never had a side puncture.
The RT's look good,even more siping....they will be my next tires.
Yup agreed the first 2 winters are great, after that its a slippery mess.
Hey Alex, it's nice to see your PW again!! Are you gonna be making some more videos off roading?
I run the duratracs on my Yukon XL and on my Ram 1500. Just cause where I live is a rural area, and where I live when it rains our roads are gravel and mud. So we need that extra bit in the mud, plus with my 1500 I use the duratracs when I’m working in pasture fields and in the forest for when hunting season is around. Never had any problems with the duratracs, they preformed as need.
Hahaha I just watched outdoor auto video on these yesterday.
Seems YT algorithm is working correctly today, recommending similar content
My duratrac’s are at 52k on my 21 gmc at4 , they have been a great tire until the last two months. They are by no means bald but as the tire has worn these thing howl going down the road. I’m not complaining I got 52k out of them but I feel I am changing them out while they still have plenty f tread life on them.
I am wondering what you think about these new RTs for towing. I have a ram 2500 diesel that I use for towing occasionally and I’m considering these tires.
Duratrac are good for light cars (Grand Cherokee) in sand, snow or mud. Unfortunately, they are very bad for heavier cars or rocky terrain. I was surprised at how unreliable the original Duratracs were. Hopefully the updated model will be finally good.
I had a set of og duratracs on my old diesel pickup. I really liked them the first year but once they started to wear , wow did they get loud and wore badly . At that time my truck was new and in perfect condition. I rotated them every oil change . Currently run a set of falken wild peak at3 on my newer 2500 duramax and was pleased with them but now at 40000km and 3rd season they are cracking in between the tread blocks and side wall. I hauled my old camper 200 km to sell and picked up my new camper maybe 400 km back to our lot. Other than that once a month I tow a 14 x8 enclosed atv trailer . Kinda disappointed with the falkens , half the tread life left but I don’t trust the tires now due to the cracking I have only seen cracking on older tires 6-10 years old. I run a dedicated winter tire on separate rims so the falkens will be parked very soon and trashed. I guess I will figure out what tires to buy over the winter. I don’t mind spending the money if the tires would last according to the manufactures claim.
I'm in New Brunswick and have these tires as well, and I'm glad you mentioned the shallow sipes. I'm heading into my 3rd Winter with them and not looking forward to it, at all.
I strongly considering the Motomaster X-Trail as my next tire. Good price, C.T. has good replacement warranty, and they're made by Cooper.
Firestone destination xts are great and full depth sipes
@@JoeyRiz Thanks! That saves me some leg work finding tires! 👍
I ran 2 sets of X-Trail. Worked well and stood up to mine pit driving well. Snow great, Ice not bad. CT is a joke of a shop and sick of going elsewhere for install, rotations etc.. Running the nokian Outpost NAT now and so far great tire as far as ride, occasional mud etc.. Great winter reviews but I will see. 100K warranty sounds good. If your CT location is good to you I would run the X.
@dpg2826 I'm strongly looking at them for next Fall.
The RTs weren’t out three winters ago…
we've been running the duratrak on our tacoma for years, and it's snow performance is awesome. It also handles itself well in mud when we are hunting. We would have it on our one ton, but they don't make them at a high enough weight rating so we had to go with something else for the big truck.
What weight rating do you need for your one ton? My dad has ran three sets on his Ford F350 diesel and is ordering his fourth set. The first two sets he got 50K out of each set, while hauling a large slide-in Lance camper. Goodyear makes an E-rated tire with a 4,000+ pound rating per tire.
@@rallye81 we need 40k pounds. Cuz its ram 3500 duelly with the max towing package
Having siping all the way through will make the tread weak as it wears down. You have more chance of ripping entire treads off on rough terrain. Shallow siping keeps the tread together for longer. I live in Australia, and frequent rough barron land adventures and the new RTs are the best. Previously run Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT I would say the Goodyear are in a league of their own.
I get that, and it makes sense but it is interesting how the Ko3 with a good amount of siping have it throught the entire tread. If I lived in Australia (actually been there for 3 months in 2016) I wouldn't care about the siping but in the snow and on ice it makes a big difference. may run a dedicated winter tire idk we'll see lol
if you ended up keeping these tires, what were the actual measurements on the tire compared with the sidewall? Curious to see if they run a bit small or really small.
i have the duratrac on my 2017 Silverado and love them got me out of snow and muddy grass in so many ways i am looking too replace them with the new tires
I just ordered the Duratrac RTs for my Ranger Raptor - which came with BFG KO2s from factory. they perform horrible in wet conditions, so I hope the Duratracs will be a safer tire for wet and winterly conditions. what are your impression regarding noise at highway speeds with the RTs?
There is a really good reason that the siping doesnt go all the way through. Tire squirm is a big deal especially on a tire with as large of open voids as the Duratracs have. Trade Offs in everything.
Happy to see the upgraded sidewalls. But then they turned around and ruined them by wrapping the tread down the side wall. That's obviously not going to help when aired down... What were they thinking....
Another great video Alex. I just got Falken AT4s on my RAM 3500 SRW. You should do a comparison to the previous AT3s.
I ran duratracs for years and loved them. Found they were not very good in the snow the last winter I had them. Probably because like you said the siping was gone. I put a set of motomaster eliminator x-trails on my truck last fall and absolutely love them. Better then the duratracs were brand new in my opinion. Cheaper as well. Check them out at canadian tire
NB Canada checking in!! I'm looking for new tires for my chev 2500. I'm between these and the Michelin defender LTX MS.. thoughts?
On my 3rd gen Tacoma stock tires 37lbs... KO2's e-rated 53lbs OVER 60lbs more rotating mass. 265/70/16 stock, now 265/75/16 now 1" bigger tire but MUCH heavier
You can't beat BFG's. I would buy them if i could afford them. I've had really good luck with Cooper tires.
Mickey Thompson Baja boss AT. Best tires I have ever run. Northern AZ snow, mud and dirt !
I am glad to hear that I do love my durtrack hatred for ko2 and am going to try MT boss
104k on my Baja boss at. Still 5/32 tread left out of 18/32. 7000 pound Denali. Tow often.
Love mine, have them on both trucks, 2020 GMC 3500HD AT4(265/75-20), and 2024 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Trail Boss LT(265/75-18), both diesel...
IF I had to fault these tires, they are pricey...
Alignment and tire pressure can factor into feathering and worm outside edges.
I have Duratracs on my Colorado and Duratrac RT's on my Land Rover. Both have good grip in all conditions when new. After 20k miles, they feel like hockey pucks on wet roads.
The tread lasts over 50k but there's no wet weather confidence past 20k
I feel the same way!! Once the siping starts to go the grip on wet roads and for me snow is just not as good.
We've had two sets on two different trucks and that has been the case with both, still plenty of tread but wet traction is completely out the window. 🥴
Which one would you feel is less noisy
@jackgottschalk8859 Honestly can't tell
@shiftmotorsports9803 do you have a recommendation on which drives better on highway
i don't know if I will switch to the rt i love my durtrack on my 2021 7.3 f250 i work for pipeline and all different terrain and towing i had ko2 and they sucked for me
Live/work in western canadian rockies.... ko2 all the way for me... long lasting and I can tell you tough as hell... great in the snow/rock/dirt... do good enough in mud... we use duratrac on our work trucks... good tires but ko2s are definitely better.
FROM MY OVERTAXED, UNDERSIZED, IGLOO ON THE MOUNTAIN IN ALBERTA
Thanks for the review. Did you happen to weigh them?
23.6 kg compared to the old ones at 21.4 kg so around 51 lbs compared to 48 lbs
Love what i was seeing. I'm a huge duratrax guy. I've had 4 sets on my gmc 2500. And at point where you showed that a goodyear tire was not made in America you just lost a loyal customer never by goodyear again.
I wonder if the new RTs will deliver better gas mileage for the Power Wagon.
@17:00, not sure if it may be a cause of uneven wear, but a coworkers dodge needed to have the shocks changed up front due to uneven wear. He had more of a cupping issues though. also i dont know if or when you may have put new shocks in. just food for thought
I wish they made the new duratrac in 35s for my Power Wagon. I have not had problems with my Duratracs.
they don't make them in 335's ?? thats's a shame.
Glad my grand cherokee has 18's🤣 also get a 25% discount on goodyear tires from my car insurance. A full set is gonna be like $1030. Thinking about moving back to south dakota next year and im looking at these as like a winter specfic set
I switched to Coopers at4s. My next set will be the Mickey Thompson A/T
Nitto i ran. And toyo in winter months. Winter in canada is terrible sometimes like you said
You should review more tires! This was great
Oh well thank you!
Good review, I think I will stick with my Baja Boss A/T's.
Great video, I was definitely considering these tires... But not anymore.
I just barely got 15k out of mine on 22 Powerwagon .....and that was rotating them every 3k! because i saw how quickly they were wearing.
They were amazing in the snow though......while they lasted 😢
I wonder how it compares to the ridge grapplers
Matt's Offroad Recovery says the Duratracs are the best tires he's ever owned.
The Duratrak 275/70R18 on all the Rebels DO NOT have the snowflake symbol, which means it’s a harder rubber compound, the other sizes like 275/65R18 DO have the snowflake symbol which is a softer compound.
My 2020 Rebel has 105,000km, my tires are still good for one more year, they are not very good on icy roads because of the harder rubber. I do install winter wheel for 3 months during the winter, so in reality the Duratrak tires do not have 105,000km on them, however I barely travel with my truck in the winter months, so I would say the Duratrak tire have approximately 90,000km on them.
I had the the old version of the duratracs on my trail boss when I bought it and they became so loud on the road (yes I did rotate) I had get rid of them at 25k miles. I bought BFG's and am well over the 25k mark now and they are much quieter than the old duratracs. I am now purchasing a ZR2 (has 22k miles on it) that comes with the new style Duratracs. Should I have the dealer swap those with my BFG's when I trade in or is anyone noticing these are better? Maybe I just had a bad batch first time around but I said I would never drive goodyear again.
Great info! 👍👍
On my f150 i had 122km on dtracs, and got 140km on KO2s. For my driving style, the ko2 was smoother, quieter, better on fuel.
On my 3/4 service truck i had good luck with the 1 set if dtracs i tried. Got 70km on them before i put on new tires for the winter. Replaced them with Ridge Grapplers, doing well so far. (But slightly louder, worse on ice and worse gas mileage) Those are minor complaints on a work truck tho.
I think the Duratracs don't like the heavier trucks. I'll check out the ridge Grapplers!
@@TheGettyAdventures my service truck weighs 10,500lbs, with 50/50 hwy and oil field roads. I've ran Nokian rock proofs, duratracs and now ridge grappler on the service truck. I wouldn't advise ridge grappler for you as they are not a snowflake rated tire.
My ko2s I replaced with Toyo At3, they have been really good so far. Heavier duty than the ko2s, but I like them.
Unless you are doing lots of offroad, I would rank them BFG, Toyo At3, then duratrac.
My ram 2500 is running Yokohama geolander ats and they are a fantastic hwy tire. Really like them for that.
Motomaster eliminator x-trail a/t are great tires i have them on my 2019 ram 1500 52,000kms so far so good also very good on snow and ice.
I have same ones on my F150, but compared to snow tires,found the winter performance just ok.Otherwise I like the tire
I run the motomaster tires as well. To my knowledge they are made by cooper and are a great value tire. I have the load range e model
Have a look at the new Yokohama AT XD (G017) Thread similar ish to the duratrac. I run those for winter with stud. Really good traction!
I believe the issue with tire wear is related to rim size. I have 17 inch rims and 20s. My 17 inch rim the duratracs wear ok. With minimal tire rotation. My 20s with the duratracs sucks for tire wear. I believe the larger rotation makes for more imbalance issues which correlates to the poor tire wear. Unfortunately I think that this is just the result of having a larger rotating mass on the road. Makes these tires harder to maintain a descent tread wear. Hence s why I will be switching back to my 17s.
Interesting to mention tire balance, on my ram 1500 with 20inch rims it was hard to get the duratracs to balance properly. always felt a slight vibration.
I prefer more mild AT tires. The workhorse ATs from Goodyear were really nice on my 19 F150 FX4.
Rams spec for alignments are off. At least for the 4th gens. Not sure about the 5th gens. I had similar wear on my 17 power wagon and had my alignment guy set toe to 0 and have had not issues since.
Very interesting. To me I was shocked when the alignment came back perfect.
@TheGettyAdventures I think it's thruren or Carli but they have a right up on there website about the alignment specs.
Go with the toyo open country AT III or goodyear ulta terrain AT
I have run old duratracs studded and not studded.... Doesn't seem to do much on this sort of tire. I think there's just too much give, the contact patch is very spread out... the studs don't get much pressure. I think they work better aired down than with studs on ice and snow. All of the changes to the "new" duratrac would make it my year-round tire of choice if they would offer it in my size. I run STT Pro in summer and duratrac winter because I don't trust a duratrac sidewall on brutally rocky 4x4 trails.
Ran plenty of dura tracs. I switched a long time ago to Cooper ST maxx and will never ever look back. Rain, snow, mudd and longevity the ST maxx blow the Dura Tracs away.
But do they pick up rocks like the old duratracs?
lmaoo I would assume no because of the tighter tread. but the old Duratracs would pick up stones and fling them into your rocker panels at warp speed.
@@TheGettyAdventures yeah i have a dent in 23 tremor from a rock
Have about 26k miles on them on my 21 power wagon and all four are wearing like that so it isn't alignment. Since that R/T is that expensive I guess I may be going K03 or Wildpeak next. Hate to spend that on an all I almost always run a mud terrain but I don't think they'll hold up on this truck as well as other vehicles.
The dealership told me the same thing. They said for whatever reason the Duratracs on the power wagons always wear in like that. they said the best thing to do is flip them on the rim once a year.
@@TheGettyAdventuresThey haven't worn well though they are starting to cup so I'm not sure it's worth it or not to flip them. Would they even be able to rebalance them? Probably but might not be perfect. Still not gonna hate on them I've had them on other vehicles and I think they're a great tire but think I'll need a new set before Maine winter gets here.
I’m thinking of going with the Yokohama GEOLANDAR A/T XD g017 that can be studded and also cheaper
Toyo M-55 is also another good option.
I have 52000 Miles on mine. I should get at least another 4 to 5000 miles on a 2020 power wagon.
Hey Goodyear! Make it in 315/75R16 please!!!
Nokian outpost AT is a good all terrain tire.they are made in rhea county Tennessee in the USA.
I'll check them out!
Great video… I’m a Cooper man. Hella bang for the buck! Side question… why is your frame and suspension black, is that undercoating for salt to prevent rust?
Thank you! And yes the frame, suspension and basicly the whole underside of the truck is covered in undercoating. It's really the only way to help these things from rusting out after 8-10 years.
@@TheGettyAdventures Luckily w'ere on the other end of vehicle life. The powertrain gives out before the body even rusts. I had a Honda Accord I got 279,000 miles out of before the compression rings went. Body was still spotless.
Are we doing tire rviews now? Nice
So, in my size the RT's are ~$50 more per tire and they moved manufacturing offshore? Shouldn't that save us money? No thanks.... Might be a reason for me to try something different or stick with the standard duratracs. My wife gets 75K out of s set of 5 of these on her Wrangler Unlimited. I think Falken will get my money when I replace the tires on my Tundra
Maybe now they won't just randomly have the sidewall split and fail with more than half the tread left. I won't buy goodyear ever again, and not because the tire failed, well partially because it failed, but because they wouldn't back the failure. The guy at my local goodyear store said i should have used more high-quality rubber protectant if it was going to be parked outside where the sun could hit it.
You should find some Nokian Outposts and check them out. Have had Duratracs and K02s in past and they were good, but I was recommended to try to Nokian Outposts by my local tire shop and decided to do it and so far the Outposts on my F150 are probably the best AT tires I’ve ever owned. I always found the Duratracs way too stiff/harsh on dry pavement. I’d never buy them again.
I've heard good things about Nokian
They definitely are rough riding, especially on a 420,000km 05 Silverado. I'm happy with them because I have to drive into some sketchy areas and have never gotten stuck while working. I was recently sent on a 3000km trip to Northern Ontario with a 2021 canyon with 30k and highway tires. It rode like a Cadillac compared to my old Silverado with 70k on the duratracs.
I'll check them out!
How many km are on your truck
I’ve ran duratracs and KO2s. Replaced a set of KO2s with duratracs I replaced the duratracs within 20000kms with another set of KO2s and haven’t looked back
Same.
Personally I think the k02 works better in the snow.
This is a new tire...how does an old argument you have have any relevance on a new tire you've never tried??
Ko2s are complete garbage imo.
How are those KO2s in the rain?
I've found over the years that the single biggest difference in tyres (of any type) is price; not performance, durability or longevity. Especially considering in this part of the world, most of the tyres we get these days are made in China.
If the siping goes super deep it makes them break easy
I have the old duratrac and they were made in Brazil
I don't think they have a 10ply version of this tire, which is disappointing...
Odd how people compare OEM tires with non-OEM….like comparing a55holes to elbows.
KO3 or Wildpeak AT4W would be my choice.
Are all duratracs made in chile?
No, they are made in several different countries, depending on size. Check, the Tire Racks web site.
I have the Duratrac RT’s on my Tacoma and they did fantastic last winter. They do comparably well against the old Duratracs and Kenda Klever RT KR601’s. So far they’ve been better in every way, though I haven’t had them in mud and don’t plan to, I hate mud! Haha I’ve never been a fan of KO2’s. I have driven well over 100 customer vehicles with them and they are very inconsistent. Especially in cold weather (15F and below) they are rock hard and loose traction very easily.
That is the once nice thing about the duratracs with that softer compound is when new they grip very well in the cold. the K03's are supposed to have a softer compound to perform better in colder weather but we'll see I guess. and yes Mud is something I typically avoid lol
The Goldilocks tyre!
I was almost sold in the until I saw the siping. That is no good for me in the winter here in the north east
You get usually 2 good winters then the grip disappears lol
My ‘18 2500 gasser has that same wear pattern lol
I don't know what it is with these 2500's lol
Increased siping might partially offset the reduced void space as far as wear