I chose the 2024 Honda ATAS because 1) DCT, 2) Reliability, 3)19” front tire, 4)Good at doing it all. I have a 21 Goldwing Tour DCT Airbag that I tour all over the US. I LOVE the DCT auto for long distance and DCT in manual sport mode for the twisties. The ATAS will be my touring bike in South America where the roads are not good enough for the Goldwing.
Very useful information. I have a 2017 Africa twin that is an amazing machine. But I definitely like the slightly lower seat on the new one. We don’t have any dealers in this area that have any in stock to ride, which is hassle.
The base AT color schemes push me toward the ATAS. The base last looked good in 2017 with its tri color red white and blue with the gold forks, gold wheels and gold bars. I’m just tired of red and black lol.
True, I love my 2023 Africa twin adv es manual. She can do everything I can’t, only complaints: gas thirsty, the hard seat, ok brakes and heavy sensation when leaning(21) in curves.
Just took a test drive on the AT last weekend. My God, what a bike! I'll be going for the base model, with DCT and without electronic suspension as i plan to get to the most inaccessible places i can manage to get to in Europe over the next few years and the least amount of tech that can go wrong, the better. Can't wait until spring next year to pick it up. 😊
Awesome video!! Been following your channel from uo here in Alaska;) You do an awesome job and your vantage point really resonates with the average every day rider!! I'm personally debating between the adventure sports and the triumph rally pro. Both similar, its a toss up.
I have both bikes. The ‘21 ATASESDCT and ‘23 300 Rally. I choose the AT as my LD bike due to 6.5 gal tank, tubeless tire and DCT. The cornering lights was bonus. The Rally is my local, back road exploring, commuting, do it all within 200 miles bike. I ride the Rally more days out of the month but I put more miles on the AT. Would I tread my ‘21 for a ‘24 with a 19 front? Only if I total my ‘21. 🤣
Just bought one. I also have a 2017 AT "base" model. I had a bit of confusion, having not followed the newest of the new when I heard the AT AS was more road worthy. I'm planning a midwest to AK trip next summer. I think the AT AS is perfect.
That was a nice talk, coach! Right now, I'm torn between just buying a TransAlp or an AT. Your POV matches mine: I think the 2024 AT DCT really makes the most sense for my 90% riding. The TransAlp, though, is so much lighter. I'll have to sit on an AT and see whether I'd be able to handle it. I'm 6'2" and in good, strong shape. So it should be OK.... Thanks for the inspiration!
Very nice bike! It can be a pop to the shops, go to work, go tour, or do some off road bike! If only it had heated seat! Bmw and triumph do! I'm looking at about £1000 to get a kit, that needs to be fitted to the seat base, then take the tank off to plumb the wiring!
An interesting comparison would be to compare the Honda CRF1000L (late 2015 and early 2016) against the 2024 offering. Depending on the performance indicators, I’d suggest while the incremental developments are noticeable, the earliest models have withstood the test of time. I’ve been itching to trade up my fully farkled ‘18 AF DCT but I’ve got to ask: Is the juice still really worth the squeeze?
It's unfortunate Honda does not sell the NT1100 in USA. Obviously for street use only but it is very very good with the base platform the same as the AT.
I’ll be getting the AT DCT when I retire in 1 year and will be selling my GS. I am 5’7” , 150 pounds, and love the 19” tire and don’t need the 21”. I do ride off road, but I’m not boulder jumping at 67, and like you, most of my riding is on road touring and in twisties, etc. The AT, with its tubeless spoked wheels allow me to do more off road whereas the Triumph Tiger 900 GT and the BMWf800gs both have cast wheels which limits the off road some. So the AT to me is the true all purpose bike. And BTW, I have Michelin Anakee Adventures and love these tires on my GS, so I’ll be getting these for my AT.
Great video, thanks. I try to decide between new 2024 Tiger 900 Rally Pro, or 2024 ATAS manual. Tiger is 20kg lighter, $2500 cheaper, and more powerful than ATAS. Can you share some thoughts and opinions about those two bikes?
@@raphymartinez I never plan to buy bike with the automatic gearbox,so when I was trying to decide between the Tiger or Africa Twin I was always thought that I will go for the manual gearbox, but when I went to dealer to try Honda they offered me test ride both Africa twin one with manual gearbox and second one with DCT, and I have to tell you the automatic gearbox shocked me how good it was during that test ride. It doesit does everything if not better than any manual gearbox. You also have the shift pads that anytime you can override the gear and change it yourself if you want, if that’s not enough you can turn automatic gearbox in manual mode so you can use it as a manual gearbox shifting with the pads and if that’s not enough for you, you can always buy food shifter for the food changing gears and use it as a normal manual gearbox. The DCT on 2024 Africa Twin change the gears exactly as I would change them so the gearbox isspot-on., at least for me. I’m delighted that I went for the DCT gearbox over manual.
@Sebastian-no6gc Awesome. Glad it worked out for you. I test rode a DCT ATAS and I agree that it's pretty great, just not for me at this time. I had a DCT on my 718 Boxster and loved it, so I have nothing against them. Maybe my next one! Pretty sure I'm going AT over Tiger though, mostly based on perceived reliability honestly.
@@adventureundone yeah. Thats wack. The base with ES would make it the perfect adventure bike IMO. Difference in price in pounds pulled from Hondas uk site is 13200 for the base and 14700 for the base with ES. 1500 pounds difference. That’s equivalent to 1920 USD. But that’s not really an accurate price translation because the price in pounds is 13200 for the base(16,898 is usd) but the base in the states is 14800.
I just got the same bike today, but I noticed a significant issue with the handlebar vibrating excessively. I've never experienced this with my previous bike. At first, I thought it might be due to the wind hitting the windshield, but even when I'm sitting still in neutral, the vibration persists to the point where the mirror visibly shakes. Are you experiencing the same issue with your bike? I suspect the dealership might have messed up while installing some OEM parts for me.
@@Corey-pd3mi awesome, that’s one bike still on the list then. The easier, battery change oil change and filter check/change are the more money I save when wrenching on my bike for the basics.
People use adventure bikes as tourers mostly. The occational gravel road? Any bike will do that. The point is that a sports tourer is a much better road bike than the AT. Even if you choose a taller bike like the Suzuki GX1000 or the Tracer 9, you will be happier with a road bike. Will you do gravel maybe 50% of the time? Sure, get the AT. It will serve you well. But think about it... Have owned several adventure bikes just to be disappointed in road performance. Chucking them about on a twisty road is just not the same. To really see the difference go testride an MT09. Just for reference... and should you want to ride gravel after buing one, slap a couple of MT60rs tyres and a radiator cover on it, and the MT09 will run gravel like a champ. Fire roads? No. There you need the AT. But I bet you will never try it even if you had an AT... So before you go spend that amount of money on a swiss army knife, perhaps you just need one or two of the tools it has? Then you are better served elsewhere.
I just noticed you’re on the gulf coast. Want to do a day ride? I enjoy riding to the coast for coffee once a week. Do you buy your bikes South Mississippi Powersport?
The real question is; How are regular and yearly maintenance costs on this thing and also how's reliability in comparison to other Hondas? What I'm really asking is, is this bike a money pit like all the other big liter adventure bikes or is it like a typical Honda?! I'm asking because I'm thinking of upgrading to Africa Twin, coming from a Transalp owner, I've owned a Transalp for years now and that thing barely costs me anything, I think I make around 10,000 kilometers a year and I spend less than $400 A YEAR on maintenance, tires, etc... - plus, I've NEVER had to fix anything for years now and even if I do, it's usually very cheap to replace because it's a Honda... So... Is Africa Twin the same or is it a money pit scam?!
Thanks for the video and valid points, 19" front wheel make sense for +90% of all AT owners I think. I suggest considering the DCT, it's awesome even on my old dog AT 2017. Where is this filmed? Looks very nice.
This AT does not have a factory center stand???? What? How can Honda justify this? No one talks about self cancelling signals. This bike have them? Nice bike tho.
I have a 24 Adventure Sport and it does have auto cancelling turns. I'm not sure how they actually work as they seem to turn themselves off at times when you are sitting at a light or when you are coming to a slow to make a turn. I just get into the habit of cycling the turns again to ensure they stay on. After the turn they will stay on for a few flashes.
Just picked up my 2024 Standard two weeks ago, and I love it!
We unfortunately don't get the electronic suspension in the US on the "base" model. Wish we did
I chose the 2024 Honda ATAS because 1) DCT, 2) Reliability, 3)19” front tire, 4)Good at doing it all. I have a 21 Goldwing Tour DCT Airbag that I tour all over the US. I LOVE the DCT auto for long distance and DCT in manual sport mode for the twisties. The ATAS will be my touring bike in South America where the roads are not good enough for the Goldwing.
New bike is always the best one. Not a fan of dct but for sure as you mentioned it has its adventages for long distances.
Nice choice, i'm buying one on wednesday 😊
That person at 0:33. Glad you are okay.
Very useful information. I have a 2017 Africa twin that is an amazing machine. But I definitely like the slightly lower seat on the new one. We don’t have any dealers in this area that have any in stock to ride, which is hassle.
The base AT color schemes push me toward the ATAS.
The base last looked good in 2017 with its tri color red white and blue with the gold forks, gold wheels and gold bars. I’m just tired of red and black lol.
I love the 23 colour. The blue in the 24 the way it's splahed around dosnt look right. I love red thou. Have ya tri colour. White makes it look bmw.
@@kangacrew540 I believe the 2024 ATAS paint job is a throw back to an 80s/90s paint job. I didn’t like it at first, but now I love it.
@@BuckyUSA atas is good design the red isn't for 24. Well imo
True, I love my 2023 Africa twin adv es manual. She can do everything I can’t, only complaints: gas thirsty, the hard seat, ok brakes and heavy sensation when leaning(21) in curves.
Just took a test drive on the AT last weekend. My God, what a bike! I'll be going for the base model, with DCT and without electronic suspension as i plan to get to the most inaccessible places i can manage to get to in Europe over the next few years and the least amount of tech that can go wrong, the better. Can't wait until spring next year to pick it up. 😊
Awesome video!! Been following your channel from uo here in Alaska;) You do an awesome job and your vantage point really resonates with the average every day rider!! I'm personally debating between the adventure sports and the triumph rally pro. Both similar, its a toss up.
I have both bikes. The ‘21 ATASESDCT and ‘23 300 Rally. I choose the AT as my LD bike due to 6.5 gal tank, tubeless tire and DCT. The cornering lights was bonus. The Rally is my local, back road exploring, commuting, do it all within 200 miles bike. I ride the Rally more days out of the month but I put more miles on the AT. Would I tread my ‘21 for a ‘24 with a 19 front? Only if I total my ‘21. 🤣
Just bought one. I also have a 2017 AT "base" model. I had a bit of confusion, having not followed the newest of the new when I heard the AT AS was more road worthy. I'm planning a midwest to AK trip next summer. I think the AT AS is perfect.
Base model with DCT, I am not sure the electronic supsensions are worth the money, what do you think?
Thanks for the video
That was a nice talk, coach! Right now, I'm torn between just buying a TransAlp or an AT. Your POV matches mine: I think the 2024 AT DCT really makes the most sense for my 90% riding. The TransAlp, though, is so much lighter. I'll have to sit on an AT and see whether I'd be able to handle it. I'm 6'2" and in good, strong shape. So it should be OK.... Thanks for the inspiration!
Would you take your 2024 ATAS on all the BDR routes - not including the “Expert” sections?
Very nice bike! It can be a pop to the shops, go to work, go tour, or do some off road bike! If only it had heated seat! Bmw and triumph do! I'm looking at about £1000 to get a kit, that needs to be fitted to the seat base, then take the tank off to plumb the wiring!
Isn't 102 hp very low? Just wondering if i come of a bmw gs 1250 if i would notice a severe difference? I love the looks of the atas
That was a nice save!
An interesting comparison would be to compare the Honda CRF1000L (late 2015 and early 2016) against the 2024 offering. Depending on the performance indicators, I’d suggest while the incremental developments are noticeable, the earliest models have withstood the test of time. I’ve been itching to trade up my fully farkled ‘18 AF DCT but I’ve got to ask: Is the juice still really worth the squeeze?
Thanks for the video. It makes sense!
Great review thanks
It's unfortunate Honda does not sell the NT1100 in USA. Obviously for street use only but it is very very good with the base platform the same as the AT.
I’ll be getting the AT DCT when I retire in 1 year and will be selling my GS. I am 5’7” , 150 pounds, and love the 19” tire and don’t need the 21”. I do ride off road, but I’m not boulder jumping at 67, and like you, most of my riding is on road touring and in twisties, etc. The AT, with its tubeless spoked wheels allow me to do more off road whereas the Triumph Tiger 900 GT and the BMWf800gs both have cast wheels which limits the off road some. So the AT to me is the true all purpose bike. And BTW, I have Michelin Anakee Adventures and love these tires on my GS, so I’ll be getting these for my AT.
Yep, she almost got you. Everybody’s on the phone madness every day that happens to me if not multiple times a day.
Great video, thanks.
I try to decide between new 2024 Tiger 900 Rally Pro, or 2024 ATAS manual.
Tiger is 20kg lighter, $2500 cheaper, and more powerful than ATAS. Can you share some thoughts and opinions about those two bikes?
I'm going thru the same thing right now. What did you end up going with?
@@raphymartinez I’ve bought the new ATAS DCT, and I love it.
@@Sebastian-no6gc what prompted you to go with DCT? asking because you mentioned the manual before.
@@raphymartinez I never plan to buy bike with the automatic gearbox,so when I was trying to decide between the Tiger or Africa Twin I was always thought that I will go for the manual gearbox, but when I went to dealer to try Honda they offered me test ride both Africa twin one with manual gearbox and second one with DCT, and I have to tell you the automatic gearbox shocked me how good it was during that test ride. It doesit does everything if not better than any manual gearbox. You also have the shift pads that anytime you can override the gear and change it yourself if you want, if that’s not enough you can turn automatic gearbox in manual mode so you can use it as a manual gearbox shifting with the pads and if that’s not enough for you, you can always buy food shifter for the food changing gears and use it as a normal manual gearbox. The DCT on 2024 Africa Twin change the gears exactly as I would change them so the gearbox isspot-on., at least for me. I’m delighted that I went for the DCT gearbox over manual.
@Sebastian-no6gc Awesome. Glad it worked out for you. I test rode a DCT ATAS and I agree that it's pretty great, just not for me at this time. I had a DCT on my 718 Boxster and loved it, so I have nothing against them. Maybe my next one! Pretty sure I'm going AT over Tiger though, mostly based on perceived reliability honestly.
Are you using the base? It has clutch?
I think that the base would be better because of its size in the city , moving in the traffic ... (and of course cheaper) ..
AS with 19" wheel is perfect
Can’t get Electronic suspension on the base in the US
Oh really? I didn’t know that.
@@adventureundone yeah. Thats wack. The base with ES would make it the perfect adventure bike IMO. Difference in price in pounds pulled from Hondas uk site is 13200 for the base and 14700 for the base with ES. 1500 pounds difference. That’s equivalent to 1920 USD. But that’s not really an accurate price translation because the price in pounds is 13200 for the base(16,898 is usd) but the base in the states is 14800.
I just got the same bike today, but I noticed a significant issue with the handlebar vibrating excessively. I've never experienced this with my previous bike. At first, I thought it might be due to the wind hitting the windshield, but even when I'm sitting still in neutral, the vibration persists to the point where the mirror visibly shakes. Are you experiencing the same issue with your bike? I suspect the dealership might have messed up while installing some OEM parts for me.
Any updates on this? I’m close to buying one as well and would love to know what the issue is in case it happens to mine
If both came with 21 inch wheels, would you have still gotten the Africa twin adventure sport?
From a DIY perspective, is the 24 models air filter under the fuel tank now? Worse for checking and cleaning trail dust off air filter.
No, same position as previous model
@@Corey-pd3mi awesome, that’s one bike still on the list then. The easier, battery change oil change and filter check/change are the more money I save when wrenching on my bike for the basics.
I've got adventure sports, it's very good on asphalt...
The height and seat height is only 20mm shorter is that really that big of deal
What is your little front bag. It looks a perfect size. Where did u get it from?
It looks like the Giant Loop ZigZag Handlebar Bag.
I’m torn between this and tracer 9 gt+
Can i just sit in the garage and just look at the bike? I find myself doing it often.
People use adventure bikes as tourers mostly. The occational gravel road? Any bike will do that. The point is that a sports tourer is a much better road bike than the AT. Even if you choose a taller bike like the Suzuki GX1000 or the Tracer 9, you will be happier with a road bike. Will you do gravel maybe 50% of the time? Sure, get the AT. It will serve you well. But think about it... Have owned several adventure bikes just to be disappointed in road performance. Chucking them about on a twisty road is just not the same. To really see the difference go testride an MT09. Just for reference... and should you want to ride gravel after buing one, slap a couple of MT60rs tyres and a radiator cover on it, and the MT09 will run gravel like a champ. Fire roads? No. There you need the AT. But I bet you will never try it even if you had an AT...
So before you go spend that amount of money on a swiss army knife, perhaps you just need one or two of the tools it has? Then you are better served elsewhere.
Smart man
I want the small tank and 19 inch wheel
But the small tank separately and hopefully it fits 😆😆
I just noticed you’re on the gulf coast. Want to do a day ride? I enjoy riding to the coast for coffee once a week. Do you buy your bikes South Mississippi Powersport?
Where are you riding? Beautiful shoreline! Thank you!
Where ars you riding?
Have you ridden many other competitors? Tiger 900 GT pro, GS, Suzuki 1050?
I use to own a 23’ 900 rally pro
How does the AT compare to the Tiger? Why did you change bikes?
0:33 you are riding in the middle, you have to ride with your high beams on directly into their side mirrors so right on the lane markers...
The real question is; How are regular and yearly maintenance costs on this thing and also how's reliability in comparison to other Hondas? What I'm really asking is, is this bike a money pit like all the other big liter adventure bikes or is it like a typical Honda?! I'm asking because I'm thinking of upgrading to Africa Twin, coming from a Transalp owner, I've owned a Transalp for years now and that thing barely costs me anything, I think I make around 10,000 kilometers a year and I spend less than $400 A YEAR on maintenance, tires, etc... - plus, I've NEVER had to fix anything for years now and even if I do, it's usually very cheap to replace because it's a Honda... So... Is Africa Twin the same or is it a money pit scam?!
Too heavy?
Still heavy, but balanced much better since it’s lower
Does that screen flash/roll continuously? I find it very distracting and annoying.
That happens when you record a screen like that, also happens with lights..
Oh. Thank you. I did not know that. So much to learn.
i could swear that i saw you review computer keyboards. Was that you?
Hello there 😉👍
Clutch non dct africa twin seems better. Electronic suspension just extra crap too, you still have to change for oil etc. Keep it simple
Well I thought I was going with the base… now I guess the adventure sport. I’ll need you to loan me the 3k you convinced me to spend!
Thanks for the video and valid points, 19" front wheel make sense for +90% of all AT owners I think.
I suggest considering the DCT, it's awesome even on my old dog AT 2017.
Where is this filmed? Looks very nice.
Is this the guy who does headset reviews
Yes I am :)
I knew it lol .moving to fl soon an buying a twin
This AT does not have a factory center stand???? What? How can Honda justify this?
No one talks about self cancelling signals. This bike have them?
Nice bike tho.
I have a 24 Adventure Sport and it does have auto cancelling turns. I'm not sure how they actually work as they seem to turn themselves off at times when you are sitting at a light or when you are coming to a slow to make a turn. I just get into the habit of cycling the turns again to ensure they stay on. After the turn they will stay on for a few flashes.
cool
Nope, we're not like shutup and get to the point. Stay silent and survive dude... jeez... Crazy drivers man..
From New Jersey.
KTM 890 adventure r is a good and cheeper competition.
Not much cheaper than the base twin
@@adventureundone There's no comparison, KTM gets everything.
If ktm Had a Honda or Yamaha engine! I buy one to day 😄
Lol, the AT will last longer than 5 KTMs. If that is important to you.
Tiger is far lighter
SMDSR-
You and majority here could never tell the difference between 19in or 21in front wheel. You are stepping out of reality.
Speak for yourself lol some people have attention to detail
@@aleksandartasic7652 oh I can tell the difference 110%
You are a legend
In you're own mind lol