Charlie Watts - The Rolling Stones | Recreating Iconic Drum Sounds
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2024
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The Rolling Stones are one of the biggest bands ever. Since the 1960's they have created countless world wide hits and have inspired millions to become musicians themselves.
Charlie Watts was the drummer for the British rock band for more than 50 years and shaped their music and sound with his drumming. In this video we take a look at his drum kit and drum sound to honor his huge legacy.
00:00 Intro
01:16 The Original
02:08 Recreating Gimme Shelter
04:53 Gimme Shelter Drum Cover
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Drumming and mixing by Pascal Thielen
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Equipment used in this video:
Drum Kit:
Gretsch Renown
Finish: Natural Gloss
Bass Drums: 22x18
Toms: 12x8, 16x14
Snare: 14x5 USA Custom (Finish: Savannah Sunset Gloss)
Cymbals:
Zildjian
14" Avedis Hats
16" A Medium Thin Crash
17" K Custom Dark China
19" Kerope
20" Oriental Crash Of Doom
Microphones:
Beyerdynamic
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Bassdrum: 2x M88 TG
Snare: M 201 TG
Overheads: MC 740
Hi-Hat: M 160
Room: M 130
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Been a Stones fan since I was eight years old (now 63). Charlie's playing has shaped my own playing more than any other drummer. No, he wasn't a Neal Peart or John Bonham , but he WAS the "engine" that powered the worlds greatest rock n roll band. Where he "lacked" in showmanship he more than made up for in his groove and feel. Miss you Charlie!
Played what was needed and it was perfect. I am a simple bass player and when I see a drummer with a small kit I know we'll get along well!
One of the best local drummers only plays snare, kick, and floor tom. His snare work is incredible and his groove impeccable. Plays for the song, not to show off his chops.
Nicely said. I couldn’t agree more. I’m 67 and got lots of chops from Charlie. 👍🏻
Charlie Watts and Bill Wyman laid down some of the best grooves of all time. Charlie never missed a beat. I love listening to him and Bill Wyman playing together. That's one thing that is great about the Stones. You can always hear each instrument very clearly.
ill take a groove drummer every day of the week
I see too often comments that Charlie wasn’t a good drummer. He wasn’t Portnoy or Peart for sure. Who cares. He had an amazing drum sound, pocket, knew when to push tempos and was an essential element of the crackling, crawling sound that swelled through Mick’s voice and the weaving between Ronnie and Keith. That is what a drummer does. The base to the pizza and he owned it. He was a phenomenal drummer who inspired millions.
Jajajaja who f cares... Children!? Jazz!!!! Jaja
He never claimed to better than anyone. He did say he just love to play.
Man so true! Who cares the hell of who is better? for the stones sound he might have been the best drummer ever, think of that! And he really deserved every inch of it! Great compositions on a flawless carreer!
Best drummers are the richest drummers
He’s an example of how less is more. If you have the ability to feel the music, in many ways you don’t need drum lessons. I’ve never had a drum lesson in my life and am not a drummer (guitar is my main instrument ) but I can play basic rock songs and it sounds good. …..I just practice maybe 15 minutes everyday and I can basically play any generic rock song……Also very important to know to tune drums. Tone is crucial
I know that probably someone has said that, but PLEASE do a Bill Ward (Black Sabbath) drum recreation. Specially their two first albuns (Black Sabbath and Paranoid)
💯🤟
That performance in Paris 1970 is absolutely fantastic. He beats the drums as if they owed him money
@@mautnerr true
Also, Simon Kirke from Bad Company, such e good drummer
So true!
I noticed the way Charlie didn't hit the hi hat and snare at the same and make a point to do it his way on stones songs . Really makes a difference...
I learned that trick from Charlie as well, and use it regularly. It leaves more space for a good snare crack, and puts some funk into the groove as well. Very simple, but effective technique. Takes a little practice to master, but it’s a great trick to have in your arsenal!
What made thier country rock songs so good was the drag 110 bpm on dead flowers and honky tonk women..He made the drag which maked them songs groove..
Honkey Tonk Women is god-tier grooving. 👌
That kid always blows me away at how well he can replicate the sound of all these drummers, especially when he pulled of Ringo star, so simple and understated and at the same time completely unique.
With the death of Charlie, an entire era has passed...
With the death of Charlie (and the absence of Bill Wyman) the entire band sounds different. After this No Filter Tour they really need to stop playing.
Rest in Heaven Charlie Watts. The Godfather of Rock Drumming ❤️☮️💙
As a kid hearing the Stones and The Beatles at age 10, Watts and Starr were my first drum gods. Things quickly gained momentum with Moon, Baker, and others like Appice and Peart. Of course today, there are countless very accomplished drummers. But Watts and Starr still hold the 1 & 2 spots - in no order. I still love the sound of those old Gretsch drums Watts played. While I can fool most people covering Watts, Ringo Starr is a lot more difficult.
Stones' "Hot Stuff" is one of the best drum sounds of all time. Great recording.
Hey Negrita from the same album as well 😏
I appreciated that Charlie was as solid drummer as they come. Not doing a boring solo like so many today.
RIP Charlie COOL Watts 😎 🥁
Honky Tonk Woman is your road to Charlie’s feel… In my opinion. As a kid, the intro grabbed me and shook me up… and off I went into learning to Rock.
Great video. Thanks for making and sharing this. Rest in Peace Charlie Watts
Right on Shiva. Peace & best wishes.
I've been playing drums since 1965, Charlie has always been in my arsenal, can't get know satisfaction, waiting on a friend, Tumbling dice..... everything in-between. I learned from him that I don't need to use the high hat as much as I thought I did, and just being there with a solid groove is more important and the all the glamour BS. He was a solid class act... I'm mid sixty something now and still play his stuff. It's a good base line.
By accident. I Heard a song and the beat was so hypnotic and full of soul that It grabbed my attention. I do not recall the song but it was one of their older songs. Then I heard an interview with Mr. watts and he impressed me with his gentle kind voice, comical sarcastic mannerisms and frankly his honesty. I’m not so much a stones fan but a Charlie Watts fan, may he Rest In Peace and may Almighty God look after him and his family while he is sleeping.
Apparently on those 60's and 70's recordings, he was using Paiste Giant Beats and a 16" 602 crash. That's a pretty spot on take of his current set up, however. Salud!
Great video and tribute to Charlie’s playing . 😎👍 This channel is very accurate in it’s research 🧐 and selection of the drums, cymbals, mics, and heads. Excellent.
This kid should be playing for the Stones, so authentic. Great tutorial!!
My first concert was the Rolling Stones when I was 11 years old. Sold me !!
The kit sounds phenomenal and I especially love the cymbal choices. Zildjian crash of doom is most definitely on my must have list. RIP 🪦 Charlie Watts
He was still using coated heads on his toms till the Exile on Main Street album. He switched to the CS Dot heads sometime in the mid-70s right about the time he acquired the blonde Gretsch kit. Still, an excellent job recreating his drum sound on Gimme Shelter.
Exactly. He switched to CS Black Dots in '75. Coated Ambassadors up until then. A nice tribute and a solid effort, but not a deep enough dive into his sound at that time.
Just hearing that perfect snare compressed in the human way is why I love that sound Charlie made.That crack.
I love playing to Charlie Watts give me shelter and I have a kit just like his.He is a inspriration for me and will be sadly missed
When I was around 6 years old my mum gave me her old pick-up and her first Beatles and Stones singles. I will never forget the first time I heard Get off my cloud and Charlies’ fill in Paint it black. There was my hero and inspiration and he has been to this very day. RIP Charlie you were in a league of your own
couple comments: satisfaction snare is on all four beats, not two & four (intro section). charlie's snare was not that muffled. he used a ludwig speed king bass drum pedal and a rogers hi hat. cheers.
Not to mention the drumhead and cymbal choices are not correct. Anyone who actually listens to Gimme Shelter with a critical ear will hear that this is way off.
Oh shut up and enjoy the video, you overly critical boomer.
@@livefrommydrumroom Lets see you do better, boomer.
@@TheMusicalElitist Did you understand the context of my comments?
dont mind the "boomer" comments.. they are only used by small children
Excellent vid!! I’ve been a drummer since 10, now 53 and I’ve come to appreciate Charlie (and Ringo) for their ability to play to the song in recent years. Anyone complaining or saying they weren’t great drummers are immature dudes. Don’t forget “the song” people and these guys fit perfectly. You want chops turn on a Rush album or go find some gospel guys it’s there. You cannot discount the sound track to peoples lives. RIP CW
His playing reminds me why I love Hal Blaine's playing so much as well. Ventura Highway sort of says it all. Great post! To Charlie Watts!!!!
Well done. Very impressed by not only the sound but your playing as well.
Wow this sounds brilliant. I love these videos. Well done.
That drum sound is absolutely perfect, good job.
Perfect kick and snare sounds/tuning... well done! :)
watched every vid on how to play this song's drumming . you are the only one to totally nail it. great job
Excellent as always guys. Great to show appreciation to one of the 'quiet' greats to play the drums.
Love that he also leaves out the hihat hits when he hits the snare as Charlie did. Miss him playing with the Stones.
Charlie only started doing that when they started playing stadiums and arenas ... If you look at all those early Stones TV clips Charlie is playing straight 8s all the way through
He got the idea from the Motown drummers, and he admitted it.@@weehudyy
Great content guys; you guy nailed it, again!
That sound was spot on great job!
Very well played!! hats off!
Well done! RIP Charlie!
Charlie was unique, he was his own man and it showed in his playing. A simple style but with so much musicality in it, he always made sure he was serving the song. Providing a solid, impeccable backbeat and maintaining a vibrant but cohesive groove, he's given me do much inspiration to not over play or complicate things. Because that's when you can expose every small weakness in your drumming. And lets be honest here, few drummers don't have a few weaknesses guys. Charlie was a very humble uncomplicated man, he was also a true Gentleman. Love you Charlie. RIP lovely man.
great video, bro! congratulations! Thanks Mr. Watts!
Great job as always
Very cool, great job on the sound
Can you guys please do Matt Cameron’s drum sound on Superunknown? I love how huge the snare and kick sounds on that album. I would love to see you guys do Black Hole Sun or Spoonman
Kepp
You're not going to learn much, these videos are so elementary... Medium high tuning... That could be anything every recorded.
@@TempoDrift1480 then why are you here, lol
You guys always nail these. 👌🏻
Great video. I loved Charlie Watts from hearing Satisfaction and then getting to know many other songs was always a joy because he had a unique feel that came from his love of jazz. There is a swing even to the most conventional 4/4 rock beats he did. He influenced me to get into UFIP cymbals that I love and have hihats for 30 years.
Nice job, guys! One of the best things Charlie had was his wrist technique with his backbeat . Almost 60 years playing... impressive, ass well.
3:41 😮
This is amazing. Thank you for doing this.
R.I.P. Sir Charlie
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de chico mi hermano trajo Flash Point a casa. Yo tenia 11 años. Me marco de por vida. Los Rolling Stones es mi ADN. Los vi 6 veces en vivo cuando vinieron a Argentina. EN los ultimos años hice mucho incapie en el sonido y el groove de Cherlie porque toco tambores, congas y candombe. Su partida me duele pero me alegra tener su musica en el alama. Gracias por el video. Muy bueno. Abrazo
Nailed it! that sound is awesome!
Very nice. Sounds great.
Great Charlie. Nice job too.
Love imitating Charlie’s style. Lifting off the ride on 2 & 4 is so much fun and emphasizes the snare.
He never lifted off the ride - only the hi-hat. He played straight 8th notes on the ride. And he lifted off the hi-hat on "4" only.
Hey John, thanks so much for sharing all your insights!
I’m fairly certain Charlie was using a 5x14 Ludwig Supraphonic on this tune. I could be wrong. Definitely didn’t use black dot heads at this time nor did he lift his right hand out of the way on backbeats. Didn’t start doing that until sometime in the 70’s.
Thanks for pointing that out Ryan. All true. And the cymbals Charlie used are very different from what they chose to use in this video. They sound nothing like the real recording, not to mention he didn't start using the UFIP china until 1977, eight years after Gimme Shelter was recorded.
@@livefrommydrumroom Yes! I wish people would do more research before they put out content like this. There seems to be a universal belief that Charlie always left 2 and 4 off of the hi hat. Definitely not so! A lot of people don’t realize that all of those great early recordings up through ‘68/69 were played on Ludwig drums.
@@livefrommydrumroom hi John, thanks for the wonderful tribute you did for Charlie on your channel. What would you advice do get close to his sound for a hi hat as well as a ride nowadays ?
Charlie is deeply missed, I have huge respect for Steve and what is been doing for 30 years with Keith is phenomenal, I was sure he could make it easily knowing he would lock with Keith but to me it’s not the same groove anymore. Charlie forever. All the best
He actually used the ludwig halfway through 69 and then after hyde park and before the american tour he bought a grestch COB g4160. His drum tech has said this on a forum somewhere. He used the grestch COB up until the 80s i think, and then after then who knows, i think it was ludwigs again for the 80s.
Very good technique my friend!! 😊🥁🇵🇭
Charlie did not start stopping his right hand on 2 & 4 until the late 1970's. I saw an interview once where he said it was something he did during the Some Girls Sessions. The engineer was trying to find a way to isolate the snare from the hi hat sound. In other words, he did not want the sound of the snare or hi hat to bleed into the other microphone. So Charlie came up with that. If you watch any videos of the Rolling Stones in the 1960's all the way to 1976, he does not stop the hi hat on 2 & 4. Pretty clever Charlie.
Thanks a lot for this video! Another suggestion for the next is: Keith moon!
This dude doesn’t miss!
fantastic!
Sounds great.
Will Calhoun from his Vivid album. Some of the best drum sounds I've ever heard. HUGE sounding Pearl kit.
I notice that you are doing the Charlie ' lift beat ' on the Hi Hats during the opening Satisfaction clip ... Charlie played straight 8s on his hats all through that early period , he really only starts doing it when they started playing huge arenas . Look at old clips from Shindig, the TAMI Show , Ready Steady Go , etc , during the 60s Charlie played it conventional ( on Ludwig drums ... )
sounds good to me.nice one
Chilling rendition. Spot on.
My Rolling Stones story is simple, I was about 5 or 6 years old in 1978-9 and they were all over the airwaves with ''Shattered'' and I thought that was cool so I begged for the 45 and got it. After that it was just a thing to search for their singles when out with mom and/or dad at K-Mart lol. In 1988 I spent a summer outside of Casper, Wy (I'm from Illinois) with my aunt and I rode a beat up old bicycle about 70 miles (round-trip) through the mountains (getting lost along the way which made for a 18+ hour trip) to get into town to a mall where I bought a double cassette Rolling Stones greatest hits. My uncle in-law had every album they ever made there at the house and was cool with me playing them but I wanted my own cassette to ride with on that crusty old bike. I almost died several times on that trip, riding at night, pitch black, steep mountain roads with ABSOLUTELY NO STREET LIGHTS ANYWHERE - could barely see the edges of the road, burning down mountain sides at 40+mph, it was crazy but I had my Stones cassette and I was happy. Paint it black, baby lol The next year, 1989, I got 4 good tickets (4th row, dead center iirc) for their show at Busch stadium in St. Louis but I ended up in chemical treatment and missed it. My ''counselor'' was nice enough to buy the tickets off of me and go with whoever he went with - I was beyond depressed, it was smack in the middle of the soccer mom fueled ''KEEP KIDS OFF DRUGS'' bs and we all suffered endless in-your-face questioning and downright harassment over why we wanted to ''THROW OUR LIVES AWAY WITH POT'' because ''DON'T YOU KNOW THAT'S OF THE DEVIL?'', that kind of psycho headtrip persecution from the helicopter parent soccer moms who are responsible for all of the great #1 hits to our sanity and our safety such as PROHIBITION and FORCING A HILLARY NOM which gave us Trump. Yeah, some mellow fat chick put more than my spine out of place in Suffragette City, baby. Anyway, long live The Rolling Stones.
Someone in one of my bands keeps saying I remind them of Charlie. So I’m checking him out now to see why - strong rhythm foundation and locking up with the band seems to be some of his strengths. I do tend to tune similarly too, and use those tom sizes and snare drum depth. Just never owned a Gretsch drum. I’m not trying to copy Charlie, but I’m guessing I’m listening to the same jazz cats as he used to listen to. :-)
Brilliant
The ultimate time keeper.
Thank you Mr. Watts
Nice vid! Plz do the drum sounds for those Bob Clearmountain Power Station records! "Run to you", Chic records etc... Thanks
excellent
great!
Sounds good.
That live version of satisfaction from the early 70s always gets me laughing cause it's so cool..
Rip Charlie, a loss to us all.
well done guys!
Thanks 🙏
great video. yes, I copy his style. I would not be a drummer without Charlie. Big influence. Huge loss. I have a Gretsch Marquee kit in the wine color. Sounds great.
It’s not only the kit, it’s the drummer playing it, or used too, now with sound replacement and quantazing every drummers can sound the same, which wasn’t the case in the 50s 60s 70s and even part of the 80s
Charlie used UFIP Natural Series China 18" (White Label), UFIP Vintage flatride 18", UFIP Experiences Series China 18", Zildjian Avedis Vintage Hi Hat 14", Zildjian Vintage Crash 17" and Zildjian Oriental Crash of Dome 20".
The primary crash for his kit above the high Tom is a UFIP 18” natural series fast China.
I need one of those! Thank you
Got one
“Charlie listened” were Keefs words, he didn’t have a set formula he put on every song but let the song breathe and have a life of its own.
I would honestly really love to see an Eric carr kit from creatures of the night
I second that, but I think they would need a bigger room! lol
my little girl luves this
Please do a video on Mitch Mitchell’s playing. Thanks.
Good job mimicking his charlie-isms. As others have pointed out he didnt start doing the missing hi hat technique until the mid to late 70s, for the 69 tour he played it straight. He also buried the stick when hitting the snare which gave it a more cutting sound. And he didnt get the china until 78. And in case you do any more charlie vids, the exact snare he used basically from 1969 until the 80s was a Gretsch COB snare. Think it was the g4160, I have the exact same one. And to get the classic some girls snare sound I think he used a (clear?) controlled sound head. You can see it in the 78 live shows
Yes. And on the studio version of Gimme Shelter, he played the hi hat the entire time - He never plays the ride. Some critical listening would have gotten him closer to Charlie's sound. A nice tribute though.
Watts made History. Nevermind if there are drummers more skilled that didn't it like him.
Cool 😎👍
Amazing video! Next time can you do appetite for destruction?
Proper sounding drums
My “first” Rolling Stones songs were Sympathy for the Devil and Paint It Black. That was decades ago, way before I decided to stop fronting bands and get into drums.
Sounds like Charlie's drums from early 70' but Charlie was not playing hi-hats that way in 1969. He started playing the hi-hat that way in 1977-78.
nice kit btw.
Sweetness
Charlie Watts was more like a session drummer, solid but restrained, perfect accompaniment to the stellar guitar playing of Keith Richards. Overall, Charlie's sense of rhythmic texture was outstanding. But there were a few songs where Watts moved a little closer to the spotlight: Satisfaction, Paint It Black, Sympathy For the Devil... etc. Overall, After decades of playing I never heard him play a solo. Even in the jazz bands he headlined later in life he always stayed well-back from the other instruments. Was this humility or timidity? Never figured it out. Still, at the end of the day, Charlie Watts sits comfortably somewhere at the top of the heap.
Unreal
Please do the drum sound from Heart's Little Queen album, especially on Barracuda!
In my Opinion, you can copy everything to recreating drum sounds, or maybe you have the same skill with every greatest drummer ... but when you swing your hand to slap or hit the batter snare .. i don't think we have the same hand swing with the people we try to copy ... the way we swing our hand can't copy ... that affect to the sound of your snare too ...
but AOD you did a great job to show us how to recreated the great sound ... its challenge me to looking a great sound ...
Thank you ... keep doing this ...
Thanks so much for your detailed feedback and totally agree with you!
You should do the steve jordan two drum setup he does with John Mayer!
I’m 53 and purchased my first kit simply to learn Rolling Stones songs. Selling motorcycle to get everything. A. That bike will just kill me. And B. They say as we age, we loose hand eye coordination. This should help.
Anyone saying Charlie was not a good drummer,really doesn't know much about drumming and probably has never gotten out of mommie's basement. Charlie was the absolute PERFECT drummer for the Rolling Stones. RIP SIR!!
This young man is good
Probably someone said this but do a Danny Wagner from Greta Van Fleet drum recreation. Their recent album is amazing and the drums on that album is different!
Charlie had that hard to describe "it" factor to his playing. Hard to recreate but you know it when you hear it. Also where'd you get that stones shirt?