The level of excitement I feel whenever I see you post a new video is astronomical. Also, congrats on the BioWare Gear ambassadorship! I’ve purchased from there many times and they are great! Love my N7 hoodie and Commander Shepard helmet.
Can we all please just a moment to enjoy something that never seems to get the attention it deserves, I am talking about the most badass title in modern history in Thedas. "The Rebel Queen". We live in a post Star Wars timeline and that title just tells me EVERYTHING I could ever need or want to know about Moira and just how much I am on her side.
Probably one of the many reasons why Logan let Cailan die is because of Celene. In just a few decades, Ferelden would be under Orlesian control once again, but not through military conquest, but with marriage.
I never knew the history of the two nations because the games were always AHHHHH DARK SPAWN, AHHHH MAGES, AHHHHH DARKSPAWN MAGISTER! But now I understand loghain's hatred for Orlais. Though it seems odd that most Fereldenias revere the Orlais Chantry and Divine. I wonder if Ferelden ever thought of having their own Chantry and Divine.
Glad to gave you back, Caitie! It's always a treat when you post, and I think everyone understands that sometimes IRL things happen and we can't really control it. Anyway, awesome way to come back and great video! A few things I'd like to say in 'defence' of my trashfire faux-french people. - You didn't mention the family change between the first invasion and the second one. The first invasion was done by the Drakon family, who was still in charge of Orlais at that point, and then after the Fourth Blight and an undated Civil War in Orlais during the Exalted Age, the Valmonts rose to the throne. Which makes Reville's assault of Ferelden even more baffling, because you usually need a _causus belli_ to attack a country. If Reville had been a Drakon he might have gotten away with some by claiming ancient history or whatever, but being of an entirely different family did him no favours. Also i'd like to point out that besides Ferelden, which was a war mounted by someone thought to be suffering from some sort of mental issue (considering Reville's whole paranoia thing at the end), the Valmonts have been kinda chill about conquering stuff tbh. (If you don't count Gaspard. And Celene, who is a lil different than the others on how she wants to do it but the spirit is certainly there) - Etienne I had another wife before the Nevarran Princess he dumped. Etienne and his unnamed first wife were married 17 years and he only let go of her, iirc, because of the court's pressure to have a child and she wasn't giving him one. So, he made a marriage contract with Nevarra - we don't know what happened to that first wife, tho - and likely, it had a clause about having children. Then, they were married 10 years with no kids. There is historical precedent to setting aside wives because they don't give you an heir, and even when they do but it isn't the gender you want, and even more historical precedent for putting them in convents because they are a thorn on your side *-cough, cough-* -Henry VIII- *-cough, cough-* and very few people started a war over it. Though to be fair, Henry VIII kinda made changes to the church that made the whole 'put-my-spanish-wife-who-is-the-aunt-of-the-holy-roman-emperor-in-a-convent' kinda of a moot point. My point is. Etienne was probably a dick and he certainly didn't have to put her in a convent, but starting a war over that kinda falls on the Nevarran side tbh. My further point is, we know she went back to Nevarra at some point and is probably buried in the Grand Necropolis. Let me talk to her, Bioware. - Also, isn't Perandele still like _'Come get me, Orlais, I am right here!'_ ? I feel like that's also ~foreshadowing for something.
I do hope that the Stolen Throne, along with the Culling, Asunder, Masked Empire, Last Flight and Tevinter Nights all get tv adaptations in animated form someday. Probably in the same form as Dragon Age Absolution.
considering how heavily tied to the Chantry Orlais is it wouldn't surprise me if they wanted to claim Denerim because it was the birthplace of Andraste, it would make it similar to how the Crusades wanted to conquer Jerusalem for Jesus
Chantry giving up the support for Orlais in the late stage of the war also could stem from the similar reasoning. By that time, Andrastianism firmly established itself as the main religion of Ferelden, so "spiritually", they conquered the birthplace of Andraste and had no reason to support Orlais' brutal occupation anymore.
Does anyone else rationalise why Orlais wants Fereldan is due too the lyruim trade? Since Orzammars surface entrance is firmly in Fereldan it makes sense that fereldan makes a fortune taxing Orzammars exports and imports, especially since the World of Thedas relies so heavy on dwarves mining lyruim. I know in lore the Chantry control the lyruim trade but I highly doubt a nation would allow such a lucrative opportunity pass by them.
You claimed that Anora was barren but I disagree it’s actually Cailan that was barren. It is said in Dragon Age Origins that Cailan had mistresses but there were no child bastards. So my dude was just shooting blanks.
could be because of the blight Rowan was exposed to that ultimately killed her... but then again, Anora doesn't have any children with Allistar or a Noble warden either, granted both of them were tainted too...
I like the idea that Empress Celene had an Orlesian bard poison Anora to make her barren. Totally needless headcanon of mine but it’s what I’d do if it was possible.
We do. That entire strip of land bisecting Ferelden and Orlais belongs exclusively to us. It’s neutral territory during the Rift Crisis, where we hold total control.
@@TheCorrodedMan Wait, they do? What’s the name of the place? Also, if the inquisition does have a country…Then why Ferelden and Orlais were trying to disband/serve them? Why couldn’t the Inquisition just go back to their own country since Ferelden was complaining about the inquisition troops being on their border?
@@TheCorrodedMan There's also the piece of land that we're capable of gaining through War Table campaigns after talking to the Dowager in Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts.
@@yc_knight6370 Well it’s technically only ours because we live on it, not because it’s been legally acquired. After Haven fell, the Inquisition(along with its considerable refugee train) just kind of…settled down around Skyhold. I don’t think anyone had the guts to tell us to leave _until_ the events of Trespasser.
Kinda ironic to watch story about Ferelden/Orlais War in these times, but damn now I relate to Ferelden people SO much Thanks for video and cлава Україні! owo
The level of excitement I feel whenever I see you post a new video is astronomical. Also, congrats on the BioWare Gear ambassadorship! I’ve purchased from there many times and they are great! Love my N7 hoodie and Commander Shepard helmet.
I have a Kirkwall hoodie, Grey Warden banner and an SR2 Hat. Love it 😂
A month and change... Eh, these things happen, and these videos are *STILL* worth the wait.
I like that you call him "Judicael Two" instead of "Judicael the Second", lol
I lost it when she shorhanded it down to just J2 🤣🤣
Can we all please just a moment to enjoy something that never seems to get the attention it deserves, I am talking about the most badass title in modern history in Thedas. "The Rebel Queen". We live in a post Star Wars timeline and that title just tells me EVERYTHING I could ever need or want to know about Moira and just how much I am on her side.
I lost it at 4:02! The out of nowhere jokes never fail Ghil
Orlais just likes to fuck around and find out, redefining audacity every twenty years or so.
Judicael 2: this time it’s personal 😎
Probably one of the many reasons why Logan let Cailan die is because of Celene. In just a few decades, Ferelden would be under Orlesian control once again, but not through military conquest, but with marriage.
Which was stupid. A political marriage would’ve honestly been a smart move by Cailan.
I never knew the history of the two nations because the games were always AHHHHH DARK SPAWN, AHHHH MAGES, AHHHHH DARKSPAWN MAGISTER!
But now I understand loghain's hatred for Orlais. Though it seems odd that most Fereldenias revere the Orlais Chantry and Divine. I wonder if Ferelden ever thought of having their own Chantry and Divine.
In the middle of another playthrough of Origins and this video appeared in my inbox. Good timing!
No apologies needed! Glad to have the content! Hope everything is okay!
"Orlais fucked around, now they're finding out." I mean, when has that not been true-
Might read the stolen throne after this, its always been on my list but now my curiosity is peaked with the details you gave in the video!
Orlais abandoning the conquest of an entire nation because of a lover’s quarrel is a very Orlesian thing to do honestly.
I just loved how you said "Judical 2" and not "Judicial Junior"
Glad to gave you back, Caitie! It's always a treat when you post, and I think everyone understands that sometimes IRL things happen and we can't really control it. Anyway, awesome way to come back and great video!
A few things I'd like to say in 'defence' of my trashfire faux-french people.
- You didn't mention the family change between the first invasion and the second one. The first invasion was done by the Drakon family, who was still in charge of Orlais at that point, and then after the Fourth Blight and an undated Civil War in Orlais during the Exalted Age, the Valmonts rose to the throne. Which makes Reville's assault of Ferelden even more baffling, because you usually need a _causus belli_ to attack a country. If Reville had been a Drakon he might have gotten away with some by claiming ancient history or whatever, but being of an entirely different family did him no favours. Also i'd like to point out that besides Ferelden, which was a war mounted by someone thought to be suffering from some sort of mental issue (considering Reville's whole paranoia thing at the end), the Valmonts have been kinda chill about conquering stuff tbh. (If you don't count Gaspard. And Celene, who is a lil different than the others on how she wants to do it but the spirit is certainly there)
- Etienne I had another wife before the Nevarran Princess he dumped. Etienne and his unnamed first wife were married 17 years and he only let go of her, iirc, because of the court's pressure to have a child and she wasn't giving him one. So, he made a marriage contract with Nevarra - we don't know what happened to that first wife, tho - and likely, it had a clause about having children. Then, they were married 10 years with no kids. There is historical precedent to setting aside wives because they don't give you an heir, and even when they do but it isn't the gender you want, and even more historical precedent for putting them in convents because they are a thorn on your side *-cough, cough-* -Henry VIII- *-cough, cough-* and very few people started a war over it. Though to be fair, Henry VIII kinda made changes to the church that made the whole 'put-my-spanish-wife-who-is-the-aunt-of-the-holy-roman-emperor-in-a-convent' kinda of a moot point.
My point is. Etienne was probably a dick and he certainly didn't have to put her in a convent, but starting a war over that kinda falls on the Nevarran side tbh. My further point is, we know she went back to Nevarra at some point and is probably buried in the Grand Necropolis. Let me talk to her, Bioware.
- Also, isn't Perandele still like _'Come get me, Orlais, I am right here!'_ ? I feel like that's also ~foreshadowing for something.
I do hope that the Stolen Throne, along with the Culling, Asunder, Masked Empire, Last Flight and Tevinter Nights all get tv adaptations in animated form someday. Probably in the same form as Dragon Age Absolution.
Dammit, *of course* you make this video right when I'm planning to do the same thing 😂
Oh no! I'm sorry Cole ;o;
This is the best history class that I never had and yet never fail to attend
The kingdom of Ferelden: No slavery or serfdom, no work without pay. And dogs are the best. Simple as.
By the Maker it says something when even by Orliasan standards what was going on in Ferelden was bad
I've subscribed, literally, yesterday and already have a new video, nice.
Good to see you back! Love your channel, such easy listening!
Glad you're back.
Thanks, Caitie! I appreciate the video. Also, Brandel is, uh, kinda like softened Alistair, no? Just my impression, but thems genetics.
So flippin hype for a loghain video!
Would do you do a video on what we know about the lands you get in Dragon Age Origins if you're able to get for elves
Hope we get a new game soon so you can cover that too! Great video as always!
I-I'm sorry. Cousin and EX-LOVER? Good thing Celene and Montillion gave Florian the poisoned stiletto in a "hunting accident"
Lovely video, keep up the great work!
considering how heavily tied to the Chantry Orlais is it wouldn't surprise me if they wanted to claim Denerim because it was the birthplace of Andraste, it would make it similar to how the Crusades wanted to conquer Jerusalem for Jesus
Chantry giving up the support for Orlais in the late stage of the war also could stem from the similar reasoning. By that time, Andrastianism firmly established itself as the main religion of Ferelden, so "spiritually", they conquered the birthplace of Andraste and had no reason to support Orlais' brutal occupation anymore.
Does anyone else rationalise why Orlais wants Fereldan is due too the lyruim trade? Since Orzammars surface entrance is firmly in Fereldan it makes sense that fereldan makes a fortune taxing Orzammars exports and imports, especially since the World of Thedas relies so heavy on dwarves mining lyruim. I know in lore the Chantry control the lyruim trade but I highly doubt a nation would allow such a lucrative opportunity pass by them.
Game tagged: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (2011)
UA-cam: Seems legit. There's only one fantasy RPG franchise in existence right?
You claimed that Anora was barren but I disagree it’s actually Cailan that was barren. It is said in Dragon Age Origins that Cailan had mistresses but there were no child bastards. So my dude was just shooting blanks.
could be because of the blight Rowan was exposed to that ultimately killed her... but then again, Anora doesn't have any children with Allistar or a Noble warden either, granted both of them were tainted too...
I like the idea that Empress Celene had an Orlesian bard poison Anora to make her barren. Totally needless headcanon of mine but it’s what I’d do if it was possible.
I wish the Inquisition can get a whole country.
We do. That entire strip of land bisecting Ferelden and Orlais belongs exclusively to us. It’s neutral territory during the Rift Crisis, where we hold total control.
@@TheCorrodedMan Wait, they do? What’s the name of the place? Also, if the inquisition does have a country…Then why Ferelden and Orlais were trying to disband/serve them? Why couldn’t the Inquisition just go back to their own country since Ferelden was complaining about the inquisition troops being on their border?
@@TheCorrodedMan There's also the piece of land that we're capable of gaining through War Table campaigns after talking to the Dowager in Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts.
@@yc_knight6370 Well it’s technically only ours because we live on it, not because it’s been legally acquired. After Haven fell, the Inquisition(along with its considerable refugee train) just kind of…settled down around Skyhold. I don’t think anyone had the guts to tell us to leave _until_ the events of Trespasser.
Kinda ironic to watch story about Ferelden/Orlais War in these times, but damn now I relate to Ferelden people SO much
Thanks for video and cлава Україні! owo