Johnny vs. Sonic Colors
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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In today's episode, I'm revisiting a game I haven't talked about in close to ten years! Sonic Colors was seen as the proper step in the right direction, but does it still hold up today?
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#SonicTheHedgehog #SonicColors #SEGA
19:04
You read my mind.
@@zumbeezy Wouldn’t that be round 4 at this point?
I’m so happyyyyy😭
Y E S
Lol
I really love how original the zones were in colours, something that hasn't really be done since
What about sonic lost world?
@@waled7564 Generic snow level and lava level? Yeah I'd rather play NSMBU or 3D World
I know they are only 4, but Sonic Mania's new stages are incredibly original too
@@waled7564 Ah yes, Green Hill Zone and Green Hill Zone, but with clouds and reused assets from other stages.
@@undergalaxy775 Mania got the best stage selection in a decade
Aaaaand they've just announced Sonic Colors for Nintendo Switch, and looks like of all 3D Sonic games this one is the best suitable for Switch semi-portability.
Yeah I only found this out a few days ago. I'm pretty keen to get it, quite enjoyed the original
The switch version will only be 30fps and crap graphics hahaha that's what you get for PORTABILITY!!! Just buy a steam deck
@@sonichasafishonhishead1462 nobody asked
@@sonichasafishonhishead1462 1080p
@@sonichasafishonhishead1462 what's that
When your main audience for a sonic game is advertised hair products.
9:24 Johnny: Can we please get Ian Flynn to write a sonic game?
Sonic Frontiers, almost 2 years later: Thou asked and thou shall recieve.
A good story alone doesn't save a game.
@@ikagura Yes but a good story can keep you motivated like I was with Sonic Unleashed.
@@landontrahan5770 Story in a game about a fast blue hedgehog shouldn't matter.
Also Unleashed was 80% Werehog so the story couldn't save the game.
@@ikagura A story should matter when your story revolves around that blue hedgehog.
@@ikagura Also, Jokes on you the werehog was my favorite part of Unleashed.
This game is criminally underrated.
The soundtrack is absolutely dope.
As my 1st Sonic game (Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games not counting), I still appreciate the humour in the game.
It's not underrated at all! It's just overHATED
@@YoungAvJoe yeah this. overhated by sonic fans but everyone else is very warm towards the game
cringe: the game
@@Bremibade not everything in it is
_It's the Re-Review that neeever eeends~_
"Can we just get Ian Flynn to write a Sonic Game?"
Given Sonic Frontiers, that aged well....
"Can we just get Ian Flynn to write a Sonic game?"
same
Agreed Sonic Unleashed (unironically given its japanese name) was the last game to have any meaningful world building, say what you will about Ian but at least his good at world building/immersion.
Lynx. Black Knight?
I only have one complaint:
Where can I get the extended theme of that intro cause that is a head bopper.
Everyone: Min Min for the win win!
Juan Ortiz: My YT Channel is 10 years old now, let's celebrate by doing re-reviews of my old stuff!
Thank you for this review. It is great to watch it now that Sonic Colors Ultimate is coming to PS4 with new additions
Sonic fans: Sonic colors sucks because 80% of gameplay is in the 2d perspective that is a terrible change of pace that only serves as "boring, meaningless, and bland level design" to pad out the game!
Also sonic fans: Sonic unleashed rocks because 90% of gameplay is in a slow paced and monotonous hack and slash gameplay that had nothing to do with sonic with most levels taking 20-30 minutes long, and is a "great change of pace" from running fast!
*Well, I probably just triggered multiple defensive unleashed fans that will take this comment too seriously. Brace for impact, folks.*
And Adventure 2 is like only 33% good because the rest of the non-sonic/shadow levels are just tedious
@@milesstorzillo1039 "Taking things seriously is my thing" maybe for you but it's just a videogame about a blue hedgehog going fast...
@@cyan57 its the opposite for me
unleashed felt more like a sonic game than colors does
@@jdawson7877 Yeah. A literal half baked god of war clone is more Sonic-like than a fast paced platformer (you know, the genre Sonic has always been known for).
Oh, don't tell me... you meant the story?
pffft
Kishimoto at least redeemed himself (or at least, started his redemption arc) with Frontiers. Probably helped that he was likely on the verge of being fired if Frontiers wasn't a success, so he had to put his best foot forward or trip and fall.
Damn i remember getting sonic colors back in the day cause of your og review
5:39 sonic colors is the only game soundtrack I put in my music library
The water world based ones are my favorite
This game is almost ten years old. I still remember looking at previews for it. ...oh Arceus
I was just talking about razors with my gf, and then Johnny comes slamming in with this deal
Colors was my first game in the series. Time has gone by so fast
I was in middle school when this game released and the writing then sounded corny as heck to me.
It's almost on the level of that "How do you do, fellow kids" joke.
I really hope they get a better writing team soon.
I was 8 when this released. Even I thought it was cringy back then.
This game's story is weird man, we have that scene where Tails gets possesed and I'm like ''oh snap'' and then they do nothing with that and it's back to badly timed joke and I'm like ''wait what''. Next scene Sonic and Tails are geniunely disturbed from seeing the Wisps in pods with Sonic getting angry about it followed by Sonic roasting Eggman some more and not taking him seriously. So much tonal whiplash.
Still better than the edgy writting of the Adventure games
@@ikagura how dare you
@@ikagura "edgy" Yeah right troll.
Jeeeez, Colors is turning 10. Christ, time flies by.
Yeah... Still my favorite Wii Sonic game. XD
I think the music plays a part in that.
Reach for the Stars and battle theme against the Nega-Wisp mech at the end.
In fact, I'd say as the *latest* of the Sonic games I've played (I'm not kidding, I have not played Lost World, Mania, Boom, or Generations) it's arguably the best 3-D Sonic I've played. Make any sense, Johnny?
Cubot isn’t wrong about the gruesome part. It’s pretty much the equivalent of a person picking up the mangled remains of another person
Loved this review, as someone who says Unleashed is there favorite game, I love the points that were brought up here cause they're all correct, Unleashed may have more complete stages than colors but they aren't as accessible unless you're more skilled and used to this sort of game play style along with consistency (personally I'm all cool with the were-hog but I can see it's problems and flaws that people have with it). Even though colors isn't my favorite game of the series like it used to once be, the points brought up about positively, the soundtrack, the theme-ing, I all completely agree with. This game for the Wii is fantastic especially in terms of looks, it has aged a bit in terms of it looking rather pixelated, however environments and just generally graphics wise looks great for a console that didn't even have HD capabilities. Awesome Review Johnny, can't wait for the re-visit of Black Knight.
U tooked the words right off my mouth. I'm glad you're being honest here instead of being all fanboy like " Wah! Sonic games was never that good anymore because of the directions they're going through today! ". U are the first I've seen of being honest. Even if you prefer Unleashed over Colors as long as u have understand why or what you see in people.
But Unleashed has a a good difficulty curve to it, the first stages are really easy, they teach you everything well and as the challenge in later levels gradually rises so too do you become better at it, like with any good, traditional action platformer so I really don't buy this ''not accesible'' thing going on here. Colors goes too far in the other direction of playing it too safe with a non existant difficulty curve and a lot more automation, making the gameplay lackluster as a result (like Forces). I will give it to Colors that it has good, unique level locations, setpieces and replayability with the Wisps which makes it stand out a bit more than Forces. And btw I'm not saying this as a dishonest fanboy, but as someone looking critically at all Sonic games.
Island Boy. Unleashed does not have an good difficulty curve. Some of them are fine. But others like aren't fair challenge. They're mostly BS. If the game is gonna have an difficulty curve, it has to be design well & balanced it out through the challenge. Not going through trial & error and punishment that the game just throws at you on purpose.
@@jjc4924 As someone that has played the hell out of Unleashed, it's definitely not too beginner friendly and is a bit schizophrenic when it comes to difficulty, It's a game I would definitely recommend after say playing generations or colors, fuck forces' low difficulty (just a joking retort, to anyone who likes forces, more power to ya lol). Although the controls do take getting used to considering unleashed has rather slippery and tanky controls compared to generations and even colors having a bit more of a precise feel to them. I personally prefer the slippery controls, it just feels like you can go much faster with em haha.
Broey. Fair enough.
A little PSA:
*Sonic Colors is not a 3D Sonic game.*
It contains 66 stages. 40 of these are majority 2D, 14 are majority 3D and 12 are about an even split, so we won't count those, as they cancel one another out. So, with that, we have 40/54 = 74% Majority 2D stages. 14/54= 26% Majority 3D stages.
With that said, *Sonic Generations is also not a 3D Sonic game.*
I don't even need to do the math there to tell you why, of course. Half of the game is purely 2D because of Classic Sonic. The other half has a split between 2D and 3D.
*Sonic Forces is not a 3D Sonic game.*
It has 46 stages in total. 29 are mostly 2D, 13 are mostly 3D, 4 are an even split.
29/42 = 69% (nice) Majority 2D stages. 13/42 = 31% Majority 3D stages.
*Sonic Lost World... Actually is a 3D Sonic game!*
32 stages including the Zelda and Yoshi DLC. 10 majority 2D, 16 majority 3D, 6 are an even split. 10/26 = 38.5% Majority 2D. 16/26 = 61.5% Majority 3D.
This means that it is not an inappropriate statement to say... *"Sonic Lost World is the best 3D Sonic game of the decade."*
I think I just threw up a little.
Semantics
@@FranciscoFJM I would argue no, actually. If we, as a community, allow ourselves to accept that so little actual 3D Sonic gameplay still constitutes a 3D Sonic game, then what's Sonic Team's incentive to actually design a real 3D game?
It's so funny though to see the community trash Forces Modern Sonic for it's lackluster level design and overemphasis on 2D blocky platforming when earlier they praised Colors as a return to form when it's exactly the same, they got what they wanted from a Sonic game and then thought ''wait a minute, no''.
I’m patiently waiting for your ‘keeps’ sponsorship.
Just a heads up for everybody, there is a one day sonic Franchise sale going on at Steam right now. The big deal being Sonic Generations is available for 1 DOLLAR..
Highly recommend anyone who hasn't picked it up yet and wants to do so.
12:31 Angry Joe: Four Hours?!
*Fooouuurrr hhooooooouuuuuuurrrrrrsssss!?*
29th anniversary of Sonic's coming up and Johnny releases a new Sonic video.
Coincidence? Yeah, probably.
I know the modern Sonic games get a bad rap, but I find Colors to be pretty good. I don't feel like things started falling hard until Lost World.
And than Mania came and saved the franchise once more. But not long till Forces came out and completely set the franchise back down to the drain again.
Things started falling hard since Colors, but looks like you haven't noticed yet.
@@mep6302 "Looks like you haven't noticed"
Or maybe I disagree and stand by my statement about Lost World. Not a hard concept to grasp.
As a Sonic fan who NEVER liked Colors, this is such validation. For me it always fell into the box of "good platformer, but poor Sonic game".
If you want an definitive version of Colors, I recommend the DS version since I think it's an better version than the Wii due to better gameplay ( despite being another part of the Rush Trilogy formula ) & level designs.
@@jjc4924 Agreed! I have the DS version and I find it to be a much better time.
This is so weird. I just watched the old review yesterday and now i see a brand new one bruh that's great 😂
Please do a 29th anniversary interview! Those are the best!!🤣🤣
I 100% unironically enjoy Forces a lot more than Colors for just being a more fun speed game, Colors has too many slow sections and stages that bog it all down for me.
I cannot believe when people say Colors levels are better than Forces, they're the same. The Wisps add some replayability to Colors but that's about it.
Island Boy Wisps generally make levels feel slower, and are forced to get S ranks where you just farm points with them.
Thanks for another awesome video, John!
Who’s here after they announce sonic colors ultimate?
I certainly am!
19:04 And then, a year later, that's what happens.
Someone was listening.
YEah it feels like that
And boy am I happy about it
@@PACSAX You and me both.
I mean it feels obvious too me that sega and Nintendo has been listening to Johnny
Well, now the ruined it lol
*me seeing the title*
“A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.”
I was more like :
"Reviews have a subtitle, now?!" ;)
Prequel memes are eternal.
Hello there!
@@VonFirflirch It seems like he's following AntDude's example.
@Adam Kruszynski what? So do i
Never expected for you to look at this game again but I’m glad you are. Also am a fan of the new thumbnail art.
Same here. The new thumbnail looks awesome.
Same to both. "Unexpected, but not unwelcome."
In the end, I don't mind the new intro, but I think the artwork is actually a pretty big step backwards. It just looks off.
I will always love Colors next to Generations & Unleashed
@@sonicmania6753 how is unleashed in any way touching colors or unleashed. Its fast stages control like shit and the werehog stages are nearly unplayable. Sorry that game was one of the ones that helped kill the franchise. Never understood why fans liked it
Love Colors but all of its issues got significantly worse with subsequent games barring Generations. It's like they took all the wrong lessons from this for Lost World and especially Forces. The Wisps in this made up for some of the lackluster level design in addition to most of those levels having some amazing new aesthetics and music tracks, something that is really lacking in the recent mainline games.
Lost World level soundtrack is amazing, Forces I agree with you
@@islandboy9381 Didn't clarify it very well but I meant that more with the level aesthetics. OSTs are fine for both though I would say they're both weaker than Colors as a whole.
@@DesignDoc Ah gotcha, yea honestly Colors and Forces feel eerily similair when it comes to their design of Modern Sonic levels in their lack of substance/challenge (the design of boss fights being pushovers too) but Colors has the edge over it because of it's level locations being truly unique with memorable setpieces and the Wisps adding some replayability (although I'm not really a fan that in a linear platformer your exploration of a level is locked away by a certain powerup, imagine if Sonic 3 had locked away areas and you need a certain elemental shield to unlock them ugh). The best thing for Sonic Team to do at this point would be Generations/Unleashed style level design with Colors sense of aesthetics.
Probably because the levels were made with the wisps in mind
@@islandboy9381 the only reason people think that Colours and Forces are the same is because Sonic controls the same but if you would actually play Colours you would know that they're nothing alike. Forces focuses more on speed while Colours has more of a platforming focus.
Johnny: Plans on redoing SGB reviews
Me: Interesting.
Also Me: He’s going to play Saw the video game again.
Oh no...
Oh god no
Not the brutality
This is gonna give me nightmares
He is going to do Superman 64 lmao. Johhny should also redo the original SGB review of Big Rigs.
Personally can’t wait for Super Metroid
I hope he does, i actually liked the first Saw game.
Wait does that mean tails doll will be back
he’s going back to sonic genesis, the evil sonic hat might return
That was Tails Doll, and his saga ended with Echo the Dolphin.
Oh shit I'm mutuals with you on twitter, whats up dude?
Ecco
9:24
Hey, Johnny's request came true. It's now confirmed that Ian Flynn will be writing the story of Sonic Frontiers. Interested in seeing how that will turn out
Ikr
Rewatched this and heard him say this and thought if Johnny is a fucking prophet somehow.
I don't want a good writer, we need a good level designer.
@@ikagura why not both?
@@BlueBlur2003 YES
So does this mean Johnny's also eventually gonna re-review the Metroid games he did under SGB? Now THAT I'm looking forward to.
Screw attack...
@@cixlo ".....I shot him dead."- Johnny vs Metroid Prime Federation Force
i mean, unlike sonic, i can't see his opinon changing on metroid. like he wil always love prime and super. maybe he will have some more new stuff to say with fusion, i dont' know. the only thing i can see his opinon changing on is other m.
I'm looking forward to this because its always jarring to go back to the old prime video when going into vs and starting with prime 2. I love the old reviews but super metroid, Fusion, and Prime are the games I love the most for him to discuss.
@@ethanator6015 He came back in the Samus Returns video, though
I wonder if he's gonna talk about the stuff with the Tails Doll whenever he gets to any games where it showed up in the review for.
I don't know if i remember correctly but he mentioned it briefly in his Sonic R review
IIRC, last time we heard from Tails Doll was Aqua the dolphin, and then he ate the note...
But more importantly, Tails Doll is a relic from the AVGN era of UA-cam reviewers. Back then it was cool to pretend you're a big deal, a guy that just have to play bad games, and fight characters from your bad games. Now? People try to find their own style, not just copy AVGN.
Tails Doll was Johnny's Bugs Bunny, and I don't think he needs a Bugs Bunny anymore...
no didn't he leave?
I'm curious on the origin of the Tails Doll, but those videos are long gone. But my guess is that he's probably gonna get referenced or something
He did technically talk about him a long while back in his playthrough of Super Mario Sunshine in the SGB channel, specifically the blue coin hunting videos where he answered fan questions with one of them asking about him.
30 seconds in:
SomecallmeShirtless
SomeOneStoleMyShirt
Someseemetopless
Shirtless Johnny might make me act up
"No copyright law in the universe gonna stop me!"
Still one of the best lines in any Sonic game.
Reference.Laugh
Said ever sonic leak
@@jacobmonks3722 Eh...it's fine.
I love that line
2:32 "Sonic Unleashed... Didn't soar with flying colors." Did he just-
He said its still a good game, just not perfect
Oh yes, fellow commentor.
*He did.*
@@HypeVoiceActing I know, I was pointing out the pun
@@HypeVoiceActing Hard to miss the pun there.
@@HypeVoiceActing
FFFFFWWWOOOOOOOOSH
This game at 60fps with HD textures on Dolphin is A masterpiece, it almost looks as good as Unleashed.
edit: Didn’t mention this, but the 60fps patch does mess up the physics, but it’s still nice to look at.
is there a tutorial to do it? i tried to do it and failed
@Orion If your on a android you can download a app a
On the official website same for windows and for a chrome book you can get it on Linux with flatpak or some models have it in the playstore after that go to google search sonic colors rom and download the first result
60FPS patch messes up the game's physics engine, don't recommend using it.
Anyone have a side by side comparison pics for the HD textures? I added them to my version but I struggle to notice the difference.
If only Unleashed was on PC...
Johnny 2010 - Simpsons clip of "LIAR"
Johnny 2020 - Simpsons clip of "The COLORS children"
Some things never changed. :)
Yo, I remember watching when the SGB Sonic Colors review premiered back on Christmas of 2010 and I watched it on the Wii Internet Channel. Good time!
The last time he used the "LIAR" clip it was used for sonic colors ds in his sonic rush trilogy video.
Oh GOD the Wii Internet Channel. Why must you remind me?
Also remember Netflix on the Wii? Now THAT was something.
Oh god, if Johnny's revisiting the SGB reviews, that means...
Genesis...
OH GOD
*squees*
And Big Rigs.
Justin Champion The Big Rigs one (at least- the one that they uploaded after the footage was lost) is labeled as Johnny vs.
Hey, look on the bright side: he’ll have an excuse to play through Sonic 3 and Super Metroid again, among other titles. :)
That also means the dead rising review.
That new model looks good... Great... AWSOME... O U T S T A N D I N G... """""""""A M A Z I N G"""""""""!!!!!!!!!
All I did was press A!
Roi Itzkovich hehe I see what you did there
RADICAL!
I love the idea of you going back and giving your old iconic reviews an updated view. Best of luck John!
Wanna talk about what happened when you had that one person dogpiled because she didn't like how that Sonic radio drama turned out?
@@Green-Raccoon777 What do you mean?
@Nathan yeah but it was too late
@Komkommer
She was still being stupid
@Komkommer
Doesn’t matter 😂
The 2019 intro will be missed
Yeah ion really like the new one
Im over here still missing the first Tee Lopes intro lol
john's new avatar is kinda meh
@@Lisa_Minci96 Not trying to put down whoever worked on it but I have to agree, it's pretty cheap looking.
I thought I was the only one the new Johnny Thumbnail Art just kinda came out of nowhere. Hate to be that person but I kinda prefer the old intro and the previous Johnny Art. Just an opinion.
Y'now, I still remember the comment section on the original Colors review. It was an all-out warzone.
I too remember the Great War against the mighty tyrant, DarkSonic180.
King Bash And many people saw many things that day
@@kingbash6466 he who must not be named
@@kingbash6466 who?
Context?
Damn. Algorithm recommended this to me after all these Colours Ultimate rumours started floating about.
An dithey've been confirmed
Why is it that whenever I see a clip of Johnny using the bathroom to shave, I see less of a UA-camr and more of a Dad?
Not even five minutes and there is already a dislike
That’s it, I’m getting me mallet!
It must be for the new intro. It's pretty lacking imo compared to the last 2.
It was definitely a troll or something
Must've been that one guy from the original Colors review who declared war on anyone who dared to say that Adventure 2 wasn't the most perfect masterpiece of all time, or that Colors was a good game.
+Modest Heliolisk
Which video was this guy on? I’d love to see that comment section.
@@Jay-hv6ss SGB Reviews Sonic Colors. Apologies, forgot to mention that before.
Generations is still the best of the boost era.
True
Generations and Unleashed are honestly the best to come out the era for me
unleashed is
Unleashed is good but Generations just wins it out for me. It actually feels like a platforming game and not a QTE/reactionary speedrun game. I just wish it ran smoother on my One X. Hopefully it runs at a solid 30fps on Series X
That's a weird way to spell Unleashed
I've come full circle. When I first came across SomecallmeJohnny, his most recent review was his original Sonic Colors from back in 2010/2011. One of the easiest SUBSCRIBE decisions I ever made. Keep up the great work dude!
That's exactly when I joined too.
SGB Review: Sonic Colors
Same. Though it may've also had some part with the Classic Sonic reviews too...
And I also didn't Subscribe, I watched. But whatever... same thing with the subject on hand.
Jesus, Crash 4, Joker amiibo, Min Min, AND a new Johnny VS? God this is an amazing day.
How could it possibly get better
It really is... It's been a while since gamers specifically had a good day.
And SpongeBob rehydrated coming out tomorrow
I didn’t realize we got Jesus too.
@@DrNeoPrototype I'M READY! I'M READY! I'M READY!
I believe this game was the catalyst that led to nintendo fans essentially "adopting" the sonic franchise as one of their own.
Jared Watson It first happened with Heroes.
TrueSonicAdventureFan i think it was more sonic advance or sonic adventure 2 battle
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle was the real catalyst
I figured that started with the Gamecube ports of the Adventure games, Heroes and the Advance Trilogy
Huh, I dunno about that man "Finally, Nintendo fans rejoice! Sonic is a full time Nintendo partner!"
**Sega releases Generations on PS3 and 360**
Man, it's kinda disheartening that Colors has become the new "blacksheep" within the Sonic fandom. While I understand the game's flaws, I had a good time with it and it is one of my fondest childhood memories. I will always have a soft spot for this game
For what it's worth, Sonic Colors is a solid game with a decent story (even if that is only because the stories of games like Lost World and Forces are far worse). My biggest gripe with it boils down to the level design leaving a lot to be desired.
It's the game that got me into the series. And I agree that it was overrated at the time, but it's overhated now.
Me too. I am way too nostalgic for this game to really dislike it. I even have a soft spot for the comedy.
The Game is overhated because people don't like Wisps hijacking the series in later games. Even though that is not Colors fault.
This is the Sonic fanbase. What once was loved is now hated. Happened to Adventure 1 and 2 and nows Colors. Its a vicious cycle.
Sonic Colors has my absolute favorite soundtrack in the series. Nearly every piece of music is excellent, especially Starlight Carnival, Aquarium Park, and the final boss themes.
Fletcher Reed Same, the soundtrack is an absolute masterpiece imo!
I personally prefer Unleashed’s soundtrack, But I really enjoyed this soundtrack as well
ZACH COBB 2006 to 2010 was the best era in terms of Sonic music, even games like Secret Rings, and Black Knight had killer music. Starting with Generations the music was either something we already heard, just bland, or just bad; case in point, Lost World and Sonic Forces. Then again everything from the “Dark age of Sonic” had a grand feeling.
#MakeSonicMusicGreatAgain
I don't like Planet Whisp's theme.
@@ABCodeX Sonic Generations was also when they used GHZ over and over again for every game (other than LW).
"BALDY MC NOISE HAIR "
- Sonic
Hyuck, hyuck, hyuck.
No
That's cause he used.........
HARRY'S
"Did you know Eggman's Mustache is Fake?"
Omochao - Sonic Adventure 2.
@@WindyREDPanda REAL SHIT?!
It was always odd to me starting a few years back when fans started to "turn against" Colors. I went back to it recently myself and for me, these are my thoughts.
I'm personally fine with the story direction they went with for this game. Unlike Lost World and Forces where it felt like there wasn't much of a clear direction, Colors just wants to be a Sonic and Tails VS Eggman story line with a bit more modern flare and that I'm fine with, and it never tries to be anything more than that. So I can get behind it.
The script has certainly aged a lot. And I agree some jokes just go on far too long, it's more the small quick remarks though that add a bit more charm. I think an example for me in aquatic park boss, eggman announces a new sushi place, now with fish. And then tails after the boss says he goes to that join and goes "his cruelty knows no bounds". Those do still get a chuckle out of me that I didn't get with forces or lost world. It's the last sonic game I remember getting any kind of laugh with.
There's issues with it but I think it's overall fine, more just later games apply these problems.
As for the game play you don't get as much speed but I think I just personally have a more fun time in a normal play through through a whole zone than some of the other games, especially once all the wisps are added to spice things up. A bit more mario yes, But I prefer that to randomly getting hit by spikes or random bottemless pits that HD unleashed was plagued with on my revisit. And most of the design still holds up and I have just as much fun going through them back then as I do now.
When the whole Unleashed Vs Colors debate comes in. I think you nailed it on the head. I think as well Colors is a much better game. While the day time levels as a whole are "better". They still are riddled with problems like its higher than normal difficulty and some stages like roof top run kind of out staying their welcome with how long they go on. But you have all the fluff on Unleashed, mainly the warehog that I will not go back to at all after beating the game and has aged horribly. Especially as a person who is a fan of character action games, the problems with those levels become worse and worse by the years. Meanwhile colors is one gameplay style that is far more consistently good throughout the whole adventure.
Yes you get bigger highs in unelashed, but they are much shorter. Colors may not get the same highs but the quality is higher across the whole adventure.
I close this off with this.
I can only recommend Unleashed to the seasoned sonic fan, I think that game is too punishing for a newcomer and they have to sit through so much fluff to get to the REAL part of the game.
Colors, I can recommend to anyone. You don't need to be a fan of the franchise to enjoy this one. You can enjoy it as a platformer and not just a sonic game. And there are not many games in the franchise I can say that I can do that with. And I think that says it all.
I respectfully disagree with the assessment that Unleashed daytime stages are too difficult, in my eyes the Unleashed daytime levels has the perfect difficulty curve for a Sonic game, the first few or three stages are pretty easy and they teach you the mechanics and level traps very well and also to learn to react to things on time, then the middle stages are gradually ramping up the challenges but in a fair way for you until the final two stages let go of the training wheels and test your abilities and everything you learned from the previous stages. It's great and it saved the game from being a mindless "hold boost to win" experience. Colors on the other hand is too easy and the difficulty curve is almost non existant, with stages feeling inconsistent in the challenges, a lot more automation than Unleashed and also repetitive, uninspired 2D blocky platforming. The Wisps don't do enough to spice up the experience and can sometimes even break up the pace (cube and hover). It also has the most underwhelming final stage and final boss I've ever seen in a mainline Sonic game.
Speaking of story, the story in Unleashed had a great balance in serious adventure and comedic levity while Colors story or writing I should say goes way too much into the lighthearted, comedic territory for me to take anything in it seriously. While the Adventure era games story can lean too far into being dark/edgy Colors story goes too far in the other direction of being too jovial. Unleashed story was better in plot, writing and characterization of Sonic and co and it had a better balance of dark and lightheartedness.
But that's just my opinion
The Werehog did not "age horribly", it always sucked.
Hooded Man oh I agree, it’s always been bad, but time has just made that even more apparent
@@hoodedman6579 First off the Werehog's combat has a lot of options and upgrades to work with it becomes fun when you utilize it well, second off the platfoming's is fine and doable. It's not great mind you but it's not terribly unplayable like people make it out to be, it's decent for what it's trying to do. I've had more frustrations with previous 3D Sonic games in some areas than I ever did with the Werehog. The problem for me is the dropping framerates and repetitive battle music that kills the beat em up experience a bit.
@@islandboy9381 The Adventure era games (Nor any of the games) leaned too heavy into being "dark and edgy". That's the appeal of the Sonic series was it taking itself seriously and having dark storylines and edgy characters. Unleashed is the bare minimum for what a Sonic story should strive for tone and content of the narrative wise, not the standard.
Oh boy, can't wait for a rereview of Saw: The Video Game.
Meanwhile Sonic Shuffle is still waiting for Johnny to be reviewed.
Me: Patience my Dreamcast game friend he'll get to you eventually.
*patience, but yes I'd love a review of that lovable mess of a party game.
@@WaddleDee105 All in due time my friend, All in due time.
IMO, Sonic’s Shuffle is a mess, but not even a likeable one.
Amy Rose: Forget about Sonic, just look at my dress!
I am a fan of the DreamCast, and if people like Sonic Shuffle, even if they don’t despise it at all, that’s fine. But I think The CC Network gave this and Sonic Lost World too much credit by putting them on his list of greatest Sonic games.
I fucking love Sonic Shuffle. The mini games and mechanics are so stupid but it’s a blast with friends. It’s a great drinking/party game for me lol.
Ah yes, the bad Mario Party ripoff
“Rocket with a hangover”. Perfect description for the hover wisp
I remember watching that sonic colors review 10 years ago, I was in middle school, and now I am about to graduate college lol.
Glad to see you are still making videos Johnny!
Funny how the end of the video is 20:06
Oh god...........
COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!
Goddamnit Johnny
What’s funny about it it’s just 20 minutes and 6 seconds
2006?
its sad to see twitter now hate on this game but I still love it and think its one of the best games in the series
Wait, Twitter’s hating on this game?
Gamerman X When is Twitter NOT hating on something?
Why is twitter hating on a 10 year old game?
Paul Ollarsaba III point taken
Colors is a decent modern Sonic game, it's under appreciated
10:32 Nice callback to the original review
I’m glad I managed to turn myself around on this game and learned to just enjoy it for what it is, a simple Sonic game with some fun stages and a good soundtrack. Personally I think the Egg Shuttle is the best way to play the entire game, back to back acts with a good pace.
I really want the egg shuttle to return again.
So you just turned your brain off so you wouldn't have to worry about the writing? How the hell does that make the game fun?
I think as a mature player, it’s easy to get some laughs out of the story ironically. I personally find humor in the fact that everyone in the story tends to acknowledge Sonic as unfunny, even himself at one point.
But really, the story doesn’t strive for much, so is it really worth the effort to trash into it as opposed to something like Forces? Coming from someone who actually enjoys good stories in Sonic games and other media btw.
@@mcmistle9892 It is worth the effort because Colors did try to have a serious story going on with the Wisps being exploited by Eggman behind the happy theme park facade, like the Classic games had a subtle, serious story wirh Eggman exploiting the environment, but the lack of an interesting plot, jovial nature of the writing and characterization of ''tryhard comedian Sonic'' and ''idiot Eggman'' makes it hard for me to care about any of it.
If you're gonna go the mile to put in a story between the gameplay make it worthwile, not just half ass it and then put in self aware jokes to laugh it away, it just comes off as flip floppy, insecure writing. Lost World's story gets criticized heavily for these reasons but I'm like ''uhh yea Colors story is exactly like that and people loved it so of course they're gonna do the same for the next games''.
It certainly comes off as a downgrade after experiencing Unleashed story because Unleashed had the perfect balance between serious adventure and comedic lightheartedness, honestly Unleashed is the ideal when I think about what kind of story Sonic games should have, that or Black Knight.
Personally I think the downgrade from Unleashed’s scale and such is a good thing, as not every moment has to be a Final Hazard or Dark Gaia level threat, and it makes those types of moments stand out more and such.
I will agree that Unleashed had the perfect tone(SA2 as well in my opinion), but I think it’s good to experiment with tones and such.
This is honestly the most refreshing take on Colors I’ve seen in years. It’s nice seeing a retrospective about it that doesn’t amount to “It’s not my Sonic and killed the franchise” in acknowledging its flaws. Glad it still holds up for you.
I just wish the Unleashed circlejerk wasn’t this prominent when like you said, that game has massive consistency issues and Colors is just a better designed game in that regard.
@Excelsior !!! Its been a thing since Forces came out
Excelsior. No. I'm just saying that people have been overhating Colors way too much for no reason.
JJ C Not no reason.
"massive inconsistency issues" you mean like Colors being inconsistent about being a Sonic game or a 2D Mario rip-off game? Or do you mean like in the story of Colors being inconsistent between an adventure or a medicore sitcom for toddlers? Also the Unleashed daytime stages had the perfect difficulty curve, the first stages were easy and became more challenging but gradually and it felt satisfying being good at the mechanics. Colors on the other hand is inconsistent in it's difficulty, as in there's frankly no challenge even in the later stages plus being repetitive.
Island Boy. Difficulty isn't always an good thing if it's not design right. And while Unleashed has some good stages, it also has the most annoying & BS ones. May I remind you Eggmanland?
And honestly, I don't give an crap about the difficulties in an video game as long as the game is fun.
For me: it’s a 9/10.
I love Sonic Colours, BUT!!!
I love postgame in video games, and there’s not much in Sonic Colours.
Sure, you got your S-Ranks and Red Star Rings, the gaming planet, and Super Sonic, but that’s kinda it.
Still though, quality over quantity, and this is a quality game!
100% Agree
I’m not sure if Pokémon fans are going to like what you said.
I mean you could always count the ones for acts 4 5 and 6 as a post game, most are completely optional
Sonic 2 can be cleared in about an hour and still had a good replay value
Wow, A brand new version of the Johnny VS theme song, That is extremely amazing.
Never thought I’d see the day. You finally gave this game the revisit that I feel it deserved. Thanks for another great vid Johnny. Glad to see you still like what has come to remain my favorite Sonic game. Even if you don’t like it as much as I still do, it’s nice to see some positivity.
Well...the community civil war exist because the fans are never satisfied.
and that's sega's fault
@Drive Check. Or better yet, listen to Machiavelli, and pick who to please on a daily basis. Sure the ones who don't get catered to will get pissed, but if they don't give you money in the first place, then who cares what they think.
In this case, that's because this fandom is basically like 10 different fandoms smashed into one; someone who likes Mania may not like Colors, someone who likes Heroes may not like Sonic SatAM, someone who likes Sonic X may not like any of the games at all, there's just so much.
I'd have to disagree with your statement, because face it, no matter the quality of the game there will be fans who enjoy the game and like it, are you insisting that nobody was satisfied by Sonic Mania, or Sonic Colors, or just any Sonic game in general?
This whole, "the fans are never satisfied" statement is bullshit and it needs to stop!
@@desmondnomad9844 You do have a point. I shouldn't always make cheap jabs at the sonic community because they are slowly but surely changing.
Wow that new artwork threw me off... and the fact you redo your Colors review added to the surprise! Awesome!
19:04 "YOUR WISH HAS BEEN GRANTED! BIGGER GREEN OUT!"
You’re getting that remaster lol crazy how you can speak things into existence
"I'd love it if this game got a rerelease"
I dream of the day we get an open world sonic game where you get to go anywhere and run across water and run up walls and collect “Chaos Emerald Pieces” scattered across the world or some shit. That would be so awesome :,)
And is that a new intro theme?? 🔥🔥
Funny, Sonic Team kind of went for that with Knuckles gameplay in Adventure 1 and 2 and almost no one liked it, said it "doesn't belong" in a Sonic game.
EDIT: check out Sonic Islands it has a more focused design on open world gameplay, Utopia's just a sandbox.
Personally, I would like something like the Sonic World from Sonic Jam. Small worlds, like the Knuckles stages in the adventure games, with multiple missions that you can do time trials in. Think like, find this character, collect a certain number of rings, run to an area within a time limit, stuff like that.
I would also make it that there's maybe 10 ish missions per each world, maybe around 7 worlds. But, you only need to do 6 to get to the next world.
Give Sonic the Spin Dash, Homing Attack, and a Wall Run that you activate like in Spiderman 2 on Gamecube, but operates like Lost World.
I know this sounds weird, but it's just a concept. :)
No bro, it's the same intro.
Knuckles in Sa2.And people hated it.
Have you heard of Sonic Utopia?
Anyone back here after they announced Colors Ultimate?
And with the upcoming remaster of the game coming soon, will we see a Round 2 review of Sonic Colors Ultimate, making the 3rd time he reviewed this game? XD
Wouldn't it be the 4th seeing as he did a Then And Now with Generations 3DS?
ITfeels like i'm the only person who thinks sonic fits better story wise in a shonen anime rather than a saturday morning cartoon. I would argue that even the classic games specifically 3&k had a feeling of epicness and drama. The saturday morning plot makes the stories incredibly boring.
You aren't the only one, pal. The server i'm in would also want a Shonen Sonic again.
Honestly, I don't think Sonic games needed an story to have an good game. Yeah. I know they needed to make stories just to entertain. But every single Sonic games doesn't always had an story driven within the mixed of gameplay. Gameplay wise is all that matters. This is Sonic the Hedgehog. Not Metal Gear Solid.
Johnny: *makes new art and intro for his videos*
Me: Aw man the music isnt jazz anymore
Just because there’s electric guitar doesn’t mean it’s not funky/jazzy
I don't like how the song abruptly cuts to the end or doesn't show Johnny really preparing for the show
And it has no cat :(
Myle. It's almost as like he borrowed that from Mega Man X3's soundtrack that he doesn't like.
"I think I'll save those revisits for next year."
*crying*
It's ok, dude/lady. Johnny said he'll do those reviews, sure, it's another 6-12 months, but come on! He'll get around to it! When Johnny says he'll do something, he usually tends to follow up on it. That's part of why most people tend to subscribe to him. That's one reason why I subscribed in the first place, dude/lady. It sucks having to wait an entire year for specific reviews, but he'll get around them, dude/lady. Johnny's not one to break promises.
@@shawnfields2369 You don't know? The old one's are SGB Reviews, and SGB is stopping after 2020 is over.
@@ryancarberry2040 Wow, really? That's too bad. But, Johnny did say he'd be revisiting his old reviews next year. I guess it's his way of saying goodbye to his old self, and I guess it means the end of this era, and hello to this new era. He also said he's not getting rid of old reviews either, just revisiting them and having all his reviews under one umbrella, the "Vs." series. While it is indeed the end of an era, nothing lasts forever, dude/lady. It's sad to see SGB come to an end, but it had a long, great, and beloved and wonderful life. Those were good times, and we won't forget them anytime soon. Especially since back then, Johnny looked like Jon Favreau, with a Sonic hat. Hard to forget something that funny to watch. As long as Johnny keeps that charm in videos, he'll be fine. It sucks to see SGB end, and I was sad already when I found out the Super Best Friends Zaibatsu ended, but, for both SGB, and SBFZ, we'll always have the memories, and all the great times we had, watching them, messing around, and having fun. Matt McMuscles is still making videos, and Johnny, will still be making videos too, dude/lady. It's hard to say goodbye to something you love doing, but I guess Johnny just figured it was time to move on and make revisions and revisits of his older reviews. I'll still watch either way.
@@ryancarberry2040 I just hope that they extend SGB for a little longer, because of the pandemic disrupting them.
He called it 9:24
Morio Kishimoto has to go honestly, if he directs the next game I'll be extremely disappointed.
Yeah, he's awful. The dude who directed Generations needs to return.
Just don’t have him direct a Boost Game.
@@gameman5804
Don't have him direct any game! He doesn't understand Sonic at all.
they just need to hire these fan designers. look how successful CW was
@@Kuzamer Most of the team behind Generations jumped ship to Nintendo years ago (yes the irony isn't lost here).
I just want a 3D game where I can play as Tails and Knuckles again (is that too much to ask?) moreover give Silver another chance?
Wow this was like a day off of Sonic’s birthday
18:55 Good news, not anymore!
Sonic colors Remastered
This man called sonic colors ultimate 11 months early
So, who’s here after sonic central because of the hype for sonic colors ultimate?
Who also came back after the announcement of Ian Flynn as writer of Sonic Frontiers?
Colors is a flawed game but easily one of the best sonic games.
That first part was unnecessary. What Sonic game isn't flawed?
10:45 If anything, Lost World is the better analogue to Galaxy
Lost World got a PC release because it was built on an upgraded Generations engine - an engine made to flexible to multiple platforms. Colors was made exclusively for the Wii so the game will need to be completely rebuilt for a PC re-release. Also I’d imagine the textures and models need to be completely redone as their fidelity is much lower.
Actually (and take this with a grain of salt) Colors was originally going to be Gens for the Wii but was scrapped for what ever reason and refitted into Colors to fill in for 2010. It makes sense given Gens is a celebration of Sonic, development started in 2009 (The Level Poll), and that Sonic Team was split into 2 teams since 2006. Seriously, look at the main platforming games made by ST in the Wii Era, there is a distinctive pattern in console availability.
Did this age poorly?
@@felixorozco4055 no, Sonic Colors had to be rebuilt so instead of rebuilding the game, they hacked it together. This made it “playable” but was an absolutely awful way to play it and I’d argue is worse than the original.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Sonic colours is the most important game in the world for me.
Terraria may be my favourite, but Colours will always be my most important. It was my childhood game.
Johnny: Sonic Colors
Me: *DarkSonic180 flashbacks*