Chapo Trap House (ft. Jefferson Morley): On the New JFK Documents (Dec 2022)

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  • Опубліковано 15 гру 2022
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  • @SteveScottRootsMusic
    @SteveScottRootsMusic Рік тому +38

    "I didn't kill anyone ... I'm just a patsy!" ~ Lee Harvey Oswald

    • @robertlyons3318
      @robertlyons3318 Рік тому +3

      Because anytime someone accused of murder says this, we automatically believe them.

    • @SteveScottRootsMusic
      @SteveScottRootsMusic Рік тому +8

      @@robertlyons3318 Nothing is ever automatic ... but it's always worth considering!

    • @airmark02
      @airmark02 Рік тому +9

      So the Assassin gets assassinated before he gets a chance to talk on a live television broadcast?
      .... Mmm 😏

    • @robertlyons3318
      @robertlyons3318 Рік тому

      @@airmark02 Who then stops Ruby from talking. If Oswald had something to say about being innocent, he had more than enough time to talk before he was killed

    • @airmark02
      @airmark02 Рік тому +9

      @@robertlyons3318 Your Naiveté about the chain of covert operations is amusing.
      Secrets are easy to keep.
      Truman had no idea about the development of the Atomic bomb until after FDR died & he was the vice-president.

  • @skeletorpfunk6342
    @skeletorpfunk6342 Рік тому +70

    These guys have zero chance of getting an Allen Dulles award

  • @kenamaro3942
    @kenamaro3942 Рік тому +8

    Oswald was a lone nut--Mrs J Edgar Hoover.

    • @steverakes1089
      @steverakes1089 Рік тому

      Hoover said we have made Oswald a lone shooter because he looks at any evidence. He had a 140 IQ w

    • @steverakes1089
      @steverakes1089 Рік тому

      Why would he say that because knowing all the facts, Oswald worked for the CIA!

    • @mikelldaley9078
      @mikelldaley9078 Рік тому

      lol

  • @NosyFella
    @NosyFella Рік тому +177

    There is nothing of interest in those documents. Trust me.

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 Рік тому +14

      Ill tell people i trust you-just get me a CFR internship 😉

    • @Some_Average_Joe
      @Some_Average_Joe Рік тому +45

      Wow, that's such a relief. I can go back to mindlessly consuming products and not worrying about the world.

    • @jaydinledford6990
      @jaydinledford6990 Рік тому +21

      Wow, thank you mister Dulles! The devil's chessboard is a great book btw

    • @julymagnus493
      @julymagnus493 Рік тому +9

      Ok but in return for my trust I want you to make me the dictator of Guatemala. 🇬🇹 🇬🇹 🇬🇹

    • @chromeuser2213
      @chromeuser2213 Рік тому +5

      weed, beans, dollars, and pesos

  • @544CampStreet
    @544CampStreet Рік тому +18

    Thanks for covering this. Morley is an OG.

  • @JoJo-vg8dz
    @JoJo-vg8dz Рік тому +56

    Only guilty people have something to hide.
    The cover-up of information is 100% proof of guilt.

    • @daltanionwaves
      @daltanionwaves Рік тому

      I remember when auditing elections was the normal healthy behavior of any free democratic society. Now you're an evil election denier if you want to audit any election results anywhere... Even though auditing an election would have no impact on which side wins or loses. Unless one side was committing fraud then it might change the results. But absent any fraud, it would only reinforce the results. But maybe our elections aren't as representative of the regular citizens as we think they are. Do you think there could ever be state actors with billions of dollars at their disposal that wouldn't use it to influence the outcome of an election that will directly impact their wealth and power? Because there's nothing in human psychology, human nature, that would allow a person to do something that selfish? There is already a great deal of hard evidence implicating the government intelligence agencies, in particular the Castro assassination program, as being involved in all of the activity around the killing of JFK, a democratically elected representative of the people. Did you know that 4 future US presidents happened to be in Dallas to witness the killing of a US president? What kind of message would that send to them? I wonder. Maybe nothing. Of course I understand why people don't want to believe that our government hasn't been meaningfully representative of the common citizen. If you're poorer than your parents and your grandparents, despite the nonlinear increase in wealth and the exponential increase in economic output largely due to technological innovation (not legislation). What if that's not by accident? What if that was by design? What if the government and the federal reserve have been passing laws, inflating the currency, consolidating corporations into monopolies instead of breaking them up, what if they did all of this stuff deliberately. I guess with the "Twitter Files" you'd have to be a moron not to see the deliberate transfer of wealth and coordinated propaganda campaign via social media by the FBICIA. The company that visited the white house more than any other company during Obama was Google. It's interesting. Guess who visits the current president the most? Nobody knows because he does most of his meetings out of his house in Delaware and they have flat denied to report it. Because obviously Biden is making all the hard choices himself, without outside influence. Any intelligent critical thinking person can see that............ 🙄

    • @ashleyvaughn4305
      @ashleyvaughn4305 Рік тому +1

      Yes, _only_ guilty people have something to hide. Like Corrie Ten Boom! Oh, wait.

    • @JulianPerez-zv6os
      @JulianPerez-zv6os Рік тому +1

      @@ashleyvaughn4305 What's with the condescension for an absolutely correct point, Mikaela?

    • @josephososkie3029
      @josephososkie3029 Рік тому +1

      That was true possibly before Media spin. Journalist standards have been watered down to the point that all reporting and especially editing, is an operation of The Party.

    • @KarlKrogmann
      @KarlKrogmann Рік тому

      This is a fucking train wreck of bad thinking, muddy logic, and abject stupidity.

  • @genxerfool9797
    @genxerfool9797 Рік тому +84

    Nah, the CIA would never do anything like that.

    • @AoE2Replays
      @AoE2Replays Рік тому +5

      LoL

    • @kxkxkxkx
      @kxkxkxkx Рік тому

      American counterintelligence agents like Hosty and Paine were tracking known KGB agents Lee and Marina Oswald, you dunce 🥳

    • @genxerfool9797
      @genxerfool9797 Рік тому +1

      @@kxkxkxkx whoosh!

    • @thechairman1024
      @thechairman1024 Рік тому +3

      Yeah u are right they are the good guys they protect us from the bad guys

    • @fuckfannyfiddlefart
      @fuckfannyfiddlefart Рік тому

      Oswald was a hero, and the deluded left who think that denying that is smart are just helping the LIBERALS.

  • @wackarnolds114
    @wackarnolds114 Рік тому +36

    Just listened to the full Poppy series this week in preparation for this day. Searching key words ‘mohrenschildt’

    • @drunkrumjack
      @drunkrumjack Рік тому

      Some loner washed out ex-Marine who traveled via 5 star hotels in Finland to Russia and associated with characters like David Ferrie, Clay Shaw, George Joannides, de Mohrenschildt and Guy Bannister. Oswald was likely a double agent for somebody and even that FBI agent Hosty keeping tabs on Oswald believed there was a "benign cover-up" to say the least.

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Рік тому +1

      @@drunkrumjack, yes, Judyth Vary Baker spilled the beans on all of that. And the warning note Oswald allegedly passed to Hosty, which Hosty claims to have destroyed on orders from his supervisor, was likely a message from Oswald warning the FBI of the plot against the president in Dallas, just as he had warned of the plot in Chicago 20 days before.

    • @Caeruleo
      @Caeruleo Рік тому

      @@pepp4560 "yes, Judyth Vary Baker spilled the beans on all of that."
      You mean she *claimed* to have spilled the beans on that. She is almost certainly a complete fraud. I'm guessing you have done practically zero research on her abysmal lack of credibility. I have discussed the evidence on that many times on the internet in detail for more than a decade and can easily do so again now if you'd like.

    • @thomassmith2091
      @thomassmith2091 Рік тому +1

      Read "Family of Secrets" by Russ Baker. The star of the Book was CIA in the beginning of the 1960's

    • @Caeruleo
      @Caeruleo Рік тому

      @@thomassmith2091 "Read "Family of Secrets" by Russ Baker."
      Oh yes, Russ Baker, the man who falsely claimed, without a shred of credible evidence to support it, that George Bush Sr. said he didn't remember where he was on the day of the JFK assassination, when in fact there is no documentation of Bush ever making a statement even remotely similar to that. And some people have mindlessly repeated this myth without bothering to carefully check the original source of the myth for credibility. So I hope you'll forgive me if I don't find Russ Baker to be an especially credible person. And if he was provably wrong in this particular claim about Bush, what else did he get wrong in "Family of Secrets"?

  • @owensullivan4708
    @owensullivan4708 Рік тому +8

    Power never prosecutes itself.

  • @nothing-2-live-4
    @nothing-2-live-4 Рік тому +27

    we love acid marxist, don’t we’re folks

    • @brianarbenz1329
      @brianarbenz1329 Рік тому

      LSD is distributed by capitalists, so the name is a contradiction.

  • @kjnest
    @kjnest Рік тому +5

    Someone should pull a watergate and get those documents!!

  • @josephososkie3029
    @josephososkie3029 Рік тому +3

    “Mistakes were made”. That’s a wonderful catch. There is a gigantic paradigm shift in political thinking hanging over all of this.

  • @TheSpritz0
    @TheSpritz0 Рік тому +11

    If you guys DO find some cool info in the documents HOPEFULLY you can make an update!!!

  • @thomasgiles2876
    @thomasgiles2876 Рік тому +111

    Finally, the world will see JFKs suicide note.

    • @ryans756
      @ryans756 Рік тому +3

      You're saying he paid Oswald to shoot him? Intriguing.

    • @thomasgiles2876
      @thomasgiles2876 Рік тому +4

      @@ryans756 "Life's bullshit, I can't take it anymore" -The Dead Guy

    • @ryans756
      @ryans756 Рік тому +4

      @@thomasgiles2876 I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest you might have cracked the case.

    • @jussihamalainen7692
      @jussihamalainen7692 Рік тому +2

      "Ha ha, what are they gonna do, shoot me?"

    • @clintondebogorski7955
      @clintondebogorski7955 Рік тому +2

      It was a blasting cap...Jack sewed one into his own forehead for the money shot...definitely a suicide!

  • @Zickafoose2024
    @Zickafoose2024 Рік тому +7

    Why not do the interview after the records were looked at?

  • @genecraig8626
    @genecraig8626 Рік тому +2

    The presidents car was blue. Until Johnson painted it black

  • @adamkaminski6435
    @adamkaminski6435 Рік тому +24

    Hell yeah dude.

  • @-xirx-
    @-xirx- Рік тому +18

    Stephen Hager an investigative journalist who is releasing several yt videos about jfk at the moment. Very interesting and well researched.

  • @rollymulligan8039
    @rollymulligan8039 Рік тому +2

    Great clear audio & presentation ,keep it up! T
    The walls are tumbling down! JR to soon return in "Major Roll"!

  • @Blake_.Dryden
    @Blake_.Dryden Рік тому +20

    How did Oswald get to Russia and then back into the US at the height of the Cold War as a regular ol’ communist Jose? Just a stroke of luck I suppose

    • @technologic21
      @technologic21 Рік тому +1

      He took a flight from Mexico.

    • @ChinDulles
      @ChinDulles Рік тому +1

      Thru Finland allegedly

    • @Blake_.Dryden
      @Blake_.Dryden Рік тому +5

      Are you saying that an American citizen could've fairly easily traveled to and from the USSR during the height of the cold war by way of neutral countries without drawing huge suspicion from, and being closely surveilled by the CIA, DoD, NSA, and other US Intelligence agencies? They would've known every minute detail concerning these flights and the individuals who took them.

    • @bobdecarlo7778
      @bobdecarlo7778 Рік тому +1

      Nothing stranger than the truth.

    • @Sean-pk2rg
      @Sean-pk2rg Рік тому +3

      It's a very good point , , after defecting he simply came back and the whole thing was forgotten , , very nice of the authorities to be so helpful , , patsy for sure

  • @marshallmcgowen4889
    @marshallmcgowen4889 Рік тому +5

    Someone need to go to jail I don't care who it is the truth will come out someday I hope before I die

  • @HoldHisHeadSteady
    @HoldHisHeadSteady Рік тому +1

    Jackie , the French assassin did it!

  • @Greg042869
    @Greg042869 Рік тому +6

    George HW Bush couldn't recall where he was when he heard that JFK was shot.

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Рік тому +1

      Correct. He and Richard Nixon both gave conflicting answers. We know, however, that both were in Dallas that day.

    • @wtmerit6129
      @wtmerit6129 Рік тому

      His wife, Barbra Bush, in her 1994 Memoir book published a letter she had written in 1994 to a friend as the Bush's were circling Lovefield waiting for Johnson to leave with Kennedy's body on board so they could land. Nixon had left two hours before and Bush came in two hours after. Hard to get that many Presidents together at one time for Inaugurations or funerals let alone assassinations.
      The book, revealing Bush41 where abouts on that day was released 6 months after Jacqueline Kennedy died. Wonder what she would have thought knowing Bush41 was there in Dallas on that day with Johnson and Nixon.

    • @michaelrussell7854
      @michaelrussell7854 Рік тому

      George W. Bush was speaking at a Smith County GOP Luncheon at The Blackstone Hotel, in Tyler, Texas. It was 90 miles east of Downtown Dallas.

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Рік тому +1

      @@michaelrussell7854, it's George H. W. Bush, and that's the story, reportedly confirmed by at least one witness. Also, his threat tip to the FBI regarding James Parrott that afternoon claimed he was calling from Tyler, TX. But that same FBI report states that Bush left the name and phone number of the Sheraton Hotel in Dallas for where he could be reached that day for any further details.
      A somewhat blurry photo of individuals held for questioning at the stairs to the Texas School Book Depository shows GHWB's doppelgänger. A Dallas Deputy Sheriff held for questioning an unnamed "Houston area independent oil man" picked up suspiciously loitering inside the Dal-Tex Building across the street, where the CIA had a front company with a window offering a perfect enfilading position on the motorcade in a trajectory nearly that of the Southeast corner of the TSBD. The unnamed man was soon released after pleading that he'd merely ducked into the building to borrow a phone. Soon afterwards, another suspicious individual was held by Dallas law enforcement. He, too, had been found loitering in the Dal-Tex Building. He, too, was released after he claimed he'd merely ducked in to borrow a phone. This time, though, his name was recorded, as Jim Braden. Later he was identified as a mafioso named Eugene Brading.
      Two days later, J. Edgar Hoover filed a memo regarding the U.S. Cuban community's reaction to the news of the president’s assassination. A copy was addressed to "George Bush of the CIA." The memo surfaced at the time of GHWB's nomination for a second presidential term, but only on Page 22. A spokesperson said it must have been a different Bush. The CIA had, indeed, once hired someone else by the name, but that individual denied ever having any involvement with Hoover, the Cuban community, or really anything of note, having held a very junior position.
      GHWB served as CIA director only one year, and yet the CIA building in Langley is named after him. His biographers today increasingly concede that he had extensive involvement with CIA. He was recruited into the CIA out of Yale, created the Zapata Offshore Oil exploration company with a partner who was also CIA, and helped organize the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. Zapata built an oil drilling platform midway between the Bay of Pigs and the training grounds for Cuban exiles in the Florida Everglades. Ships to transport the invading force were rechristened the BARBARA and the HOUSTON. The CIA codename for the Bay of Pigs invasion was later revealed as Operation Zapata.
      Oswald handler George DeMohrenschildt wrote to his former friend Bush when GHWB was CIA director, asking him to intercede with the government to "call off its dogs" who were following him. Bush denied he was a federal target. DeMohrenschildt reportedly then killed himself with a shotgun at the time he was subpoenaed to testify before the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
      While eulogizing Gerald Ford as a man of honesty (which was why we should believe the Warren Report), Bush couldn’t suppress a grin while speaking of the "lone, deranged gunman " who killed JFK.
      I've met and worked for W. and Laura, Poppy and Barbara. They seemed like good, personable folk. I may have been fooled. GHWB once reputedly remarked to reporter Sarah MacClendon: "Sarah, if the American people knew what we'd done, they'd chase us down the street and lynch us." In this case, perhaps we should have taken Bush at his word.

    • @mikelldaley9078
      @mikelldaley9078 Рік тому

      and he was in dallas

  • @Barquivius
    @Barquivius Рік тому +32

    I er uh am gay

  • @pepp4560
    @pepp4560 Рік тому +3

    One correction: as Morley knows well, the last U.S. Government position re the JFK assassination is that it did appear to involve a conspiracy.

    • @TrueNovice
      @TrueNovice Рік тому +2

      Said 2 shooters maybe, but acting independently and unknown to each other

  • @dicksteele69
    @dicksteele69 Рік тому +8

    The Oswald communication to the embassies is old, old news. The agencies don't believe it was Oswald on the phone and the CIA have no photos of Oswald at the embassies. Oswald spoke perfect Russian. That is how he and his wife communicated.

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Рік тому +1

      Right. I was surprised Morley didn’t mention that. Hoover is recorded telling LBJ the voice wasn’t Oswald's. This poses two questions: 1) did Oswald really go to Mexico City, and 2) who would be impersonating Oswald in Mexico?

    • @dicksteele69
      @dicksteele69 Рік тому

      @@pepp4560 Probably the same guy who impersonated him at the shooting range and car dealership.

    • @bernardfong1019
      @bernardfong1019 Рік тому

      There was photo of a fake, fat Oswald.

    • @dicksteele69
      @dicksteele69 Рік тому

      @@bernardfong1019 evidently there are no photos of Oswald at the embassy. The crack CIA were changing camera systems, supposedly. The description of Oswald by the embassy staff is not the Dallas Oswald.

  • @georgeperillo6421
    @georgeperillo6421 Рік тому +4

    You also don't hear about the bullet hole in the windshield.

    • @mikelldaley9078
      @mikelldaley9078 Рік тому

      true. it was estroyed in chicago on the following monday. people at hospital saw them too...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Рік тому

      Only damage to the windshield, still in the National Archives, is a crack from a bullet fragment which also damaged the chrome plating... from the inside. The idea somebody was assuming they would frame this on a lone shooter from behind while standing squarely in front of the limo (where, exactly?), firing through glass (!) and past the ears of a carful of passengers as he shot Kennedy in the face is laughable.

  • @landryprichard6778
    @landryprichard6778 Рік тому +6

    Nothing is going to happen. This will go on forever. Go outside. Grow a garden. Fall in love. Sing a song. Write a poem. Save your soul.

    • @swclar99
      @swclar99 Рік тому

      AND.....bury your head in that garden!🤣🤣

    • @landryprichard6778
      @landryprichard6778 Рік тому +1

      @@swclar99 Point taken. And valid. But, at my age, I see the same cycles again and again. I will now bury my heads...in actually living...and not devouring depressing hot takes.

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Рік тому

      All good advice. But I swore an oath. I also have a duty. And yet I've no idea how to fulfill it.

  • @PurushaDesa
    @PurushaDesa Рік тому +4

    Why is it such an important date if they've already ignored the deadline so many times? What enforceable repercussions are there for not meeting the time limit?

    • @ciarancassidy7566
      @ciarancassidy7566 Рік тому +4

      Legally enforceable repurcussions don't exist for the CIA

    • @c2itccase9
      @c2itccase9 Рік тому

      The $1.7 trillion omnibus was delayed and passed by a lame duck congress….the decline of the USA is as obvious as LHO was part of a conspiracy.

  • @thesultrystrangerdanger6824
    @thesultrystrangerdanger6824 Рік тому +2

    That's it I'm calling Daniel hopsicker

  • @rynolord2308
    @rynolord2308 Рік тому +1

    This guy is giving a zoom call? It better be reporters only or else we’re gonna have another Italian Tifa incident

  • @0ptimuscrime
    @0ptimuscrime Рік тому +1

    Live by the dome, die by the dome

  • @whgrunow
    @whgrunow Рік тому

    The Fox 🦊 guarding the Chickens.

  • @HoldHisHeadSteady
    @HoldHisHeadSteady Рік тому +6

    Oswald was a convenient scapegoat! Jackie needs more scrutiny! We're thinking only men were involved and capable!
    Fun fact: She's French. She wore a pink Coco Chane dressl French design.
    The actress , Natalie Portman, who played her in the movie 'JACKIE ' is the same actress who starred in her first box office hit , co starring Gary Oldman, in the FRENCH movie titled: LEÓN
    Gary played Oswald in another iconic Movie 😉

    • @HoldHisHeadSteady
      @HoldHisHeadSteady Рік тому +2

      And in that movie, LEÓN, she's an assassin's apprentice!

  • @richardj9016
    @richardj9016 Рік тому +1

    MAGIC

    • @daleknox8104
      @daleknox8104 Рік тому

      Exactly, we need the " Majestic 12 Allen Dulles " former CIA director fired by JFK. Communications with Helms and Angleton.

  • @patdwyer5204
    @patdwyer5204 Рік тому

    Oswalds' tax returns released ? Looking at the windshield in the photo on screen here, I do not see the documented hole, bullet hole, etc.

  • @whgrunow
    @whgrunow Рік тому

    Plenty of great books with
    every detail,
    Nobody Cares 🇺🇸

  • @mtp4430
    @mtp4430 Рік тому +1

    Anything that would be of interest has already been redacted.

  • @DeadBoneJones
    @DeadBoneJones Рік тому

    Joaniedeez nutz

  • @vixtex
    @vixtex Рік тому +1

    Just shows you who’s really in charge of this country.

  • @dfkuz
    @dfkuz Рік тому +1

    Try to find a photo of the guy named Paine (I think his first name was Thomas) that Oswald and Marina were living with at the time! He was a dead ringer for Oswald and could easily act as a double to travel to Mexico City and also test drive a used car! And then there was Roscoe White, a professional photographer, whose own legs from the hips down and Roscoe’s square chin (Oswald’s was pointed!) were photo shopped into the famous photo called the Oswald backyard photo where he LOOKS like he’s holding a rifle!

    • @Caeruleo
      @Caeruleo Рік тому +2

      "Try to find a photo of the guy named Paine (I think his first name was Thomas) that Oswald and Marina were living with at the time!"
      I think you're talking about Michael Paine, and if so, Lee and Marina never lived with him. Marina only, not Lee, lived with Paine's wife, Ruth, for two months in the autumn of 1963.
      "He was a dead ringer for Oswald and could easily act as a double to travel to Mexico City and also test drive a used car!"
      I've seen many photos and films of Michael Paine and he did not look especially like Oswald to me, and I'm sure many people would agree with me.

    • @bernardfong1019
      @bernardfong1019 Рік тому

      Ruth Paine.

    • @thomassmith2091
      @thomassmith2091 Рік тому +1

      Your Thomas Paine is probably Thomas Payne. He worked for Bell Helicopter, which was a revolving door for the agency. His wife, Ruth, spoke fluent Russian. She spent very much time with Oswald's wife, Marina, (Russian) and children. So, she lives in Texas in 1963, and she is fluent in Russian.

    • @KarlKrogmann
      @KarlKrogmann Рік тому +2

      His name was Michael Ralph Paine and he looked nothing like Oswald.

    • @dfkuz
      @dfkuz Рік тому

      @@thomassmith2091 I thought his name was Thomas but Google says it was Michael.

  • @theresasadlier9714
    @theresasadlier9714 Рік тому

    Where are the curtain rods

  • @thomassmith2091
    @thomassmith2091 Рік тому

    Why does the CIA not wanting to discuss or help in investigations.
    Answer: Book
    "Family of Secrets" written by Russ Baker (I think)?

  • @dfkuz
    @dfkuz Рік тому +3

    You do know, I hope, that Oswald was seen casually drinking a Coke in the 2nd floor lunchroom of the Depository within a couple of minutes after the shots rang out, and he did not appear out of breath as he should have if he had just come from the sixth floor! FYI, that IS him in the Altgen’s photo watching the limo go by the front of the building, and right after is when he went to take his break! His former mistress, Judyth Vary Baker, ID’d him!

    • @EricAlanSolo
      @EricAlanSolo Рік тому +3

      Billy Lovelady.

    • @dfkuz
      @dfkuz Рік тому +1

      @@EricAlanSolo That's what David Lifton ("Best Evidence") wrote back to me when I asked him, but use your eyes and not the mind control we've been placed under and then look at the photo again! It makes perfect sense that Oswald would be taking his lunch break and take a couple of minutes to watch the motorcade go past the Book Depository, then use the elevator to the second floor lunchroom, and buy a Coke. Why do you think the Secret Service agents around the President's limo are all looking at Oswald with alarm? People were threatened and bought off right and left afterward (just like today).

    • @Caeruleo
      @Caeruleo Рік тому +1

      "You do know, I hope, that Oswald was seen casually drinking a Coke in the 2nd floor lunchroom of the Depository within a couple of minutes after the shots rang out, and he did not appear out of breath as he should have if he had just come from the sixth floor!"
      Wrong. You are repeating a conspiracy myth. Marrion Baker and Roy Truly never said, in any statement provably spoken or handwritten by either of them, that Oswald was drinking any type of soda in the lunchroom when they saw him approximately 90 seconds after the last shot was fired, and in fact they said quite the opposite, that both his hands were empty. He got the soda after Baker and Truly left the lunchroom and continued up the stairs. The first person who really did say they saw him with a soda bottle after the shooting was secretary Jeraldean Reid, who said she saw him holding such a bottle when he was walking through her office *away* from the lunchroom.
      "FYI, that IS him in the Altgen’s photo watching the limo go by the front of the building, and right after is when he went to take his break!"
      No, that has been irrefutably proven to have been Billy Lovelady.
      "His former mistress, Judyth Vary Baker, ID’d him!"
      BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Judyth Vary Baker??? You mean she **CLAIMED** that it was him in the photo. And you didn't know that she has been proven to have obvious and severe credibility problems? She is almost certainly a complete fraud. You didn't know that, just to name one example, she tried to pass off letters to her ex-husband as love letters she had written to Oswald by tearing off the name of the addressee from every letter, and that these same letters were identified by her ex-husband's second wife and her own daughter as having indeed been written to her ex-husband, not to Oswald?

    • @Caeruleo
      @Caeruleo Рік тому +2

      @@dfkuz "That's what David Lifton ("Best Evidence") wrote back to me when I asked him, but use your eyes and not the mind control we've been placed under and then look at the photo again!"
      I've looked at it many times and also looked at other proven photos of Billy Lovelady wearing the same shirt. It's definitely Billy Lovelady in the Altgens photo, and other TSBD employees corroborated that he was out in front of the TSBD with them watching the motorcade. Not one TSBD employee ever said they saw Oswald outside watching the motorcade.
      "It makes perfect sense that Oswald would be taking his lunch break and take a couple of minutes to watch the motorcade go past the Book Depository, then use the elevator to the second floor lunchroom, and buy a Coke."
      Why does that make "perfect sense," exactly? And for the second time, he didn't buy the "Coke" until after Baker and Truly saw him in the lunchroom. Both of them said that when they first saw him both of his hands were empty.
      "Why do you think the Secret Service agents around the President's limo are all looking at Oswald with alarm?"
      I see them looking back in the general direction of the building itself. Where you're getting this idea that they are looking at one particular person I can't imagine, since they are facing away from the camera and you can't see the precise direction in which they are looking. And naturally they'd look back in that general direction if they had just heard a shot from that direction, as more than 100 other witnesses said they did also. Why on earth would they be looking specifically "with alarm" at a man standing in the doorway of the building who wasn't holding a visible weapon? Sorry, but I've been studying this assassination for 34 years and that's one of the silliest claims I've ever heard or seen being made about this case.

    • @EricAlanSolo
      @EricAlanSolo Рік тому +4

      They re-enacted that walk down the stairs with a guy of Oswald’s age and weight. He was not out of breath at all.

  • @TheSpritz0
    @TheSpritz0 Рік тому +1

    Operation 40 and FRANK STURGIS, I bet Oswald met him!!!

  • @s_p_onarge8720
    @s_p_onarge8720 Рік тому

    I don’t know why the government don’t just say ‘that’s it, that’s all of the documents’. What are they hiding and who are they protecting after all this time

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Рік тому

      They could release every scrap of paper on earth and conspiracy theorists will still just be saying "ah, but what are they still hiding?"

  • @blackedmirror5073
    @blackedmirror5073 Рік тому

    Thanks girlfriend

  • @edszewczyk
    @edszewczyk Рік тому +1

    The guest sure uses the word “operational” a lot. Wish he’d been asked to explain what he meant by it. Or is it just a buzzword to signify that we don’t know what they’re doing or what it means, but it can’t be anything good?

    • @vivanance
      @vivanance Рік тому +2

      When the CIA handler tells Oswald to go out in the street and pass out pro-Castro pamphlets while they follow him around with a camera, he's being used operationally. Little did he know that he was being set up as the fall guy.

  • @enniocontreras9348
    @enniocontreras9348 Рік тому

    Like people say. That they won't tell us we can hear at loud voice. They knew that something was cooking at but all them this assasination fall from heaven in order to take out of the way the only person who can do it

  • @whgrunow
    @whgrunow Рік тому +1

    6 shooters were involved,
    all have been identified.

  • @KarmaPaym3ntPlan
    @KarmaPaym3ntPlan Рік тому +6

    It’s so difficult to imagine the means by which, there would be a difference between what they’re forced and would prefer to release.
    Maybe there’s something about a Biden-set deadline, that simply cannot be refused

  • @CapnSnackbeard
    @CapnSnackbeard Рік тому +73

    I hope after all those failed assassination attempts on him, Castro finally just had Kennedy's weasle-ass capped.

    • @zainmudassir2964
      @zainmudassir2964 Рік тому +21

      It would be hilarious

    • @juliusc.8
      @juliusc.8 Рік тому +16

      Castro was fond of Kennedy.

    • @kxkxkxkx
      @kxkxkxkx Рік тому

      That is pretty much exactly what happened 🚩 you must be a dedicated communist, just like Lee Oswald and his KGB wife...

    • @GrimReader
      @GrimReader Рік тому +10

      @@juliusc.8 Cause Kennedy was the little engine that couldn't. After a while the assassinations just became cute

    • @choppA_getudA
      @choppA_getudA Рік тому +8

      Castroes what Kennedoesn't.

  • @AndyDEFILLIPPO
    @AndyDEFILLIPPO Рік тому

    If they didn’t do it they where involved in it

  • @Badhands55
    @Badhands55 Рік тому

    If they released it, and you have access to it, it’s complete bullshit

  • @richardj9016
    @richardj9016 Рік тому

    The documents we need are the ones which show who killed Kennedy and why ? Duh !

  • @sandrashady703
    @sandrashady703 Рік тому +2

    This wasn't a CIA screw up, this was a CIA mission complete successfuly.

  • @Geopolitic157
    @Geopolitic157 Рік тому

    Recommended reading- David Talbot's "The Devil's Chessboard", James W. Douglass's " JFK And The Unspeakable"
    These two investigative authors corroborated independents sources. Very detailed history of how the state within a state operated in history. The population is lied to on a regular basis..Very chilling.

  • @soapopera3139
    @soapopera3139 Рік тому

    Look at the situation of JFK and Israel.
    Curious.

  • @kohhna
    @kohhna Рік тому

    Lee Harvey Oswald didn't do anything wrong, the imperialist piggy got what he deserved.
    The reason why most people at the time believed there was more than just LHO involved in the shooting is because the general assumption at that time was that it was a hit by Cuban and / or Soviet agents in retaliation for the Cuban Missile Crisis (which the reds actually won but the American public didn't know that at the time). The weirdness in the way the feds dealt with the evidence and how hard they went on the lone gunman theory was because they were scared that that was true and that implicating the Soviets could land us in WW3, as another assassination of a head of state had pushed the world into WW1 within living memory. That's what Bobby and LBJ went to their graves believing.
    I could see it being entirely possible that the Gusano anti-castroites might have been aware of and keeping tabs on Oswald. Still doesn't mean that the spooks were operating Oswald from behind the scenes.

    • @mikelldaley9078
      @mikelldaley9078 Рік тому +1

      wrong on so many levels. first LHO TESTED NEGATIVE FOR POWDER BURNS NOV 23. USA REMOVED SOME MISSILES FROM TURKEY. ITWAS A SWAP NOT A VICTORY.

  • @petergozina7799
    @petergozina7799 Рік тому

    Does everyone remember 6 people in the vehicle that day? I remember only 4 with the governor of Texas riding shotgun...

    • @greghanna7753
      @greghanna7753 Рік тому +2

      Two secret service guys in the front row of course. 4 passengers.

    • @brianarbenz7206
      @brianarbenz7206 Рік тому

      ...riding _what,_ Peter Gozina?

    • @petergozina7799
      @petergozina7799 Рік тому

      @@brianarbenz7206 He was in the front passenger seat. Not behind it. His wife wasn't in the vehicle.

  • @thesultrystrangerdanger6824

    Wait something something Daniel hopsicker or something or something something old photos something something for the grass

  • @ughughhguhguhughughgugh8521

    eh he was prolly a ruskie an we didnt want a war to start. like a movie or some shit yeah

    • @JulianPerez-zv6os
      @JulianPerez-zv6os Рік тому +4

      If that was true, why cover it up now?

    • @reinarforeman6518
      @reinarforeman6518 Рік тому

      That makes perfect sense if you ignore every piece of information. If you can do that than it all lines up perfectly.

  • @knowmusicman157
    @knowmusicman157 Рік тому

    the Bush family is a big reason it was stopped

  • @BK-uf6qr
    @BK-uf6qr Рік тому

    What a waste of time. Another UA-cam video of self important people talking about things we already know. Telling us who they are, what they do and rehashing theories and speculation. Someday all of these conspiracy theorists should get together and decide on a unified theory. Instead, all of these random conspiracy theorists push their individual yet self contradicting theories. The sum of the parts betrays the individual theories. The sheer number of theories in essence means their is a theory. Yet, there is nothing new here.

    • @shyman3000
      @shyman3000 Рік тому

      tha fuck are you talking about?

  • @zachflame123
    @zachflame123 Рік тому +3

    Kennedy was accidentally killed by a Secret Service member riding in a rear car, as described in the book "Mortal Error" by Bonar Menninger and the film "JFK: The Smoking Gun"

    • @JulianPerez-zv6os
      @JulianPerez-zv6os Рік тому +3

      If that were true, why would intelligence cover it up?

    • @zachflame123
      @zachflame123 Рік тому

      @@JulianPerez-zv6os because the Secret Service was known for hard partying, substance abuse and other indiscretions. They had been awake until the early morning the previous night. The FBI was implicated in the record of the Service. To cover up the possible incident, the FBI and CIA manipulated the autopsy and other records. The book and film, which heavily uses forensic evidence, place Oswald at the scene (with unknown motives and affiliations), but deny he was the shooter who struck the killing blow.

    • @JulianPerez-zv6os
      @JulianPerez-zv6os Рік тому +2

      @@zachflame123 Yeah....or....they did it

    • @JulianPerez-zv6os
      @JulianPerez-zv6os Рік тому +1

      @@zachflame123 Like, at this point we basically know for sure that Oswald was a cultivated intelligence asset.

    • @zachflame123
      @zachflame123 Рік тому

      @@JulianPerez-zv6os the only problem is explaining why the CIA would kill right wing Cold War imperialist John Kennedy

  • @ryananon779
    @ryananon779 Рік тому +2

    The language used by this guy is so speculative. It might be this and it's possible that...
    Scraping the bottom of the conspiracy barrel 🙄

    • @brianambrosemcmahon8531
      @brianambrosemcmahon8531 Рік тому

      Not at all , the point of the interview is that the CIA knew and used Oswald at senior levels He was not a loner or a crazed individual but rather an operative who was under surveillance in Mexico City . The Warren commission was a fictional story and shielding the truth from public view .
      The cover up continues after 59 years . The only national risk at stake is the TrUTh.

  • @curbozerboomer1773
    @curbozerboomer1773 Рік тому +1

    Morley is correct about the CIA (and the FBI) knowing a little more about Oswald...However, there is no way that Oswald was being "used" by either organization ...he was a loose cannon, idiot loser of a man, for God's sake!. He had an incredible hatred of most people, and saw himself as a major mover and shaker in world politics. He certainly would not be used by any "hit team" for any reason!...The CIA knows that the remaining paperwork will show a certain level of incompetence, in tracking Oswald--and they are loathe to admit it!...also, both the CIA and FBI are guilty of not sharing information they had about LHO...there was a certain "competition" between the two organizations, mainly fostered by J. Edgar Hoover...it is a bleak situation, for sure...but it really is just another case of "CYA" at all costs!

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Рік тому

      A "loser of a man" who came from a broken home and lived only 24 years but joined the Civil Air Patrol as a teen, enlisted in the USMC on his 17th birthday, worked in Japan on the U2 program, learned Russian well at a DoD facility in Nag's Head, NC, became a double agent in a CIA-run phony defector program in the USSR, was personally tracked by FBI's Hoover and known by the highest reaches of the CIA, brought his family to the United States, became a paid FBI informant while working odd jobs, may have run guns to the Cuban exile community with Jack Ruby, participated in a CIA plot to kill Castro, traveled to several countries, hung out with socialites and the White Russian community, tipped the government off to the plot against JFK in Chicago, and is still someone known and argued about all over the world 60 years later? Some "idiot loser!" Sure, the KGB concluded it wouldn’t use Oswald, but partly because it suspected (correctly) that he was a CIA dangle. In fact, you're largely parroting Hoover's false characterization of the man, and either naïvely or with malice trying to mislead Americans regarding the role of the CIA in Kennedy’s murder and of the FBI in the official coverup.

    • @wtmerit6129
      @wtmerit6129 Рік тому

      So if Oswald had not been killed where he was able to prove his innocents and then it was found Johnson was behind the assassination as many have suspected with Johnson being the 2nd Vice President after McKinley to become President after his President, JFK, was assassinated in his political home, his homestate, Texas as well as Theodore Roosevelt's New York, would Oswald have revealed he was CIA entered politics and one day become our President only to be assassinated in his Vice Presidents homestate?
      It is crazy to think that both Kennedy's were killed in their presidential rivals home turf, their homestates, Johnson and Nixon's, Texas and California, as the President before them had, McKinley in Theodore Roosevelt's New York and nobody questions it? More than half the presidential assassinations in the homestate of the next President if you include RFK running for President where the first two Lincoln and Garfield were killed in Washinton, DC, where it would be expected because they lived there. Five presidential assassinations with the last three in the homestate of the next President and of all the books and investigations barely mentioned that only one, JFK's happened in Johnson's homestate. Makes our investigating agencies look bad for starters. Should have been mentioned in the Warren Report. Maybe to embarrassing for Johnson.

    • @kohhna
      @kohhna Рік тому

      Please don't call Oswald a loser, he brought the people's justice to a war-criminal who would likely have gone unpunished otherwise.

    • @Apogee02UK
      @Apogee02UK Рік тому

      Oswald as absolutely a loser.

    • @kohhna
      @kohhna Рік тому

      @@Apogee02UK how many imperialist pig-dogs have you merk'd lately?

  • @boomcrypto8347
    @boomcrypto8347 Рік тому +3

    You are on the target with Johannides.

    • @curbozerboomer1773
      @curbozerboomer1773 Рік тому

      You are merely assuming "guilt by association"...stick to the facts.

    • @boomcrypto8347
      @boomcrypto8347 Рік тому

      @@curbozerboomer1773 You stick to the facts. Johannides created ' The Oswald Project" 3 years before JFK was whacked.

    • @pepp4560
      @pepp4560 Рік тому

      Yes, Joannides almost surely was involved in sheep dipping Oswald as a Marxist in New Orleans and may well have known about Oswald's role in the plot against Castro as well.

  • @uratrick
    @uratrick Рік тому

    0000

  • @fuckfannyfiddlefart
    @fuckfannyfiddlefart Рік тому +2

    Oswald was a hero.
    DISLIKED

  • @bvailcards44
    @bvailcards44 Рік тому +6

    I swear, both the Soviet intel agency and the CIA knew about Lee. They both thought he was just a weirdo and a useless crazy person. They thought he was harmless. More likely is that the CIA and the secret service is just highly embarrassed about the situation.
    Listen to Well There’s your problems bonus episode about it. It’s really good.

    • @Oscuros
      @Oscuros Рік тому +4

      "Soviet intel agency", because KGB is tough to spell. That's what the KGB assessments in the Soviet Union said about Oswald. If the CIA and FBI thought that about Oswald they wouldn't keep using him for counterintelligence operations when he came back. When he handed out leaflets in front of the cameras for a TV channel that was funded by INCA, which was a CIA operation to film who took the leaflets from him among the Cubans. They wouldn't use a "harmless idiot" to do something like that.
      They'd use someone who could do a job and complete it, had a sense of duty to do it properly, and used that against him, it's really not that complicated.

    • @bvailcards44
      @bvailcards44 Рік тому

      @@Oscuros dog. Lee was part of a free cuba communist party. You give the CIA too much credit here. They thought he was a insane mf, but harmless.

    • @bvailcards44
      @bvailcards44 Рік тому +1

      @@Oscuros dude fit the same profile of mass shooters today. It’s either one big name guy (jfk) or just a mass amount of people.

    • @raeroa7982
      @raeroa7982 Рік тому

      Nah. Jack Ruby told a fellow FBI informant to “watch for the fireworks” hours before the assassination, killed Oswald because he was so upset over a president he never met and then died himself 3 months after getting a new trial….I think Os was a patsy planted there to take the fall and wasn’t as crazy as the CIA made him sound.

    • @jacobcastro1885
      @jacobcastro1885 Рік тому

      When was MK Ultra? Does Oswald fit the timeline?