The Old Testament and the Hyksos Pharaohs
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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In the Old Testament when Joseph was sold as a slave into Egypt by his envious brothers, the region of Lower Egypt was dominated by the Hyksos pharaohs, the so-called "Shepherd Kings," who were Semitic in background. This may partially explain why Joseph was eventually installed as vizier to one of these pharaohs, after his prediction of 'plenty' followed by 'famine.' The story of Joseph remains one of the Bible's most beloved accounts, and his lecture endeavors to understand the narrative in light of its historical context.
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This is NOT scientific.
Genesis was written more than thousand of years later than the period. In the story of Abraham there are names of towns nations that didn't exist before the Iron age.
It is clearly a constructed story, a magnificent and inspiring one, but not factual.
thank you for making sense
Yeah that's funny how people are dying to make sense after fictional characters and stories 😂😂😂🤣oh boy 🤦🏿♂️ ridiculous
Abraham is the first JEW 1950 BC .. he’s the first JEW .. the pyramids all of them in Sudan and Egypt was built before he was born .. also the letter “J “ didn’t exist back then .. the letter J doesn’t come into existence until 1500’s AD so Abraham wasn’t a Jew .. no John no Joseph no Jesus .. no J .. so what was they real names .. and what’s the original word for JEWish
Josephus Flavius says the Hyksos were the Israelites. He says:
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Such is Manetho's account and, if the years which he enumerates are summed up, it is clear that evidence. the so-called shepherds, our ancestors, left Egypt and settled in our country 393 years before Danaus came to Argos. (Apion 16)
The Hyksos Exodus from Egypt is exactly the same as the Israelite Exodus.
And it was the Hyksos who destroyed Jericho.
See book: Jesus, Last of the Pharaohs.
Ralph
They were both wrong
this guy has it all wrong... Joseph in Egypt preceded the Hyksos ... when the jews (and Joseph) first came to Egypt they were loved and loyal to the native Egyptians rulers ..they were actually in spiritual union with each other.....
Thereafter, just preceding the birth of Moses, the Hyksos invaded upper Egypt and when they came to power they enslaved the jews because they were loyal to the native Egyptian rulers who were overthrown as they had been since the days of Joseph....
That is why the jews were enslaved ... because they could not be trusted by the Hyksos .... despite them being both of Cananite origin ...
read the Book of Jubilees... its all written there...
Joseph made sure to shave before seeing Pharaoh for the 1st time. This implies that the Pharaoh was native Kemetic. The Hyksos did not care for shaving or hygiene like the Egyptians did specifically body hair was seen as unclean to Egyptians. Joseph had to have lived and served under Pharaoh before the Hyksos.
I agree, and is a great point, but what I struggle over is the mention of chariots which we're said to be introduced by the hysokos
Joseph shaved to look as if he was a local in the newly hyksos rule. If he left his bearded appearance, the Hyksos might have believed he was Assyrian. Which was the main reason the Hyksos migrated to the Nile. Connect the dots.
Os Hyksos adotaram as cerimoniais egipcios e copiaram quase tudo em questões de administração, etc
Eles admiravam os egípcios e quiseram e mantiveram muitas coisas iguais.
Dynasties change, but bureaucracy lasts forever. If the Hyksos take over, the old staff are around to remember the proper rituals and customs. Maybe.
🤺☦🇷🇺That is absolutely ridiculous and ignorant. The Hyksos began long before Joseph, in the later time of Abraham! You clearly are uneducated about biblical timing. Why do you Protestants think that you are allowed to interpret the Bible yourselves, as you see fit, with no regard to holy church tradition? That is a rethotical question, obviously, since the answer is that Protestants aren't Christians. If the temple was built 480 years after the exodus, then do a simple math: Abraham and Joseph (Hyksos period), Moses mid 15th century (18th dynasty)
Makes a lot of sense about the Hucksos and then when Egyptians coming back in power and hating the Israelites.
Ancient history and biblical history dates does not match that’s why biblical history dates keeps changing ! Hyksos is ancient history the europeans learned about the Hyksos is through Kmt history! Kmt shows facts that it was one ruler not two rulers like he said! The only thing history knows about the Hyksos is they came from the east! Research King Ahmose because the story he’s feeding to the people isn’t true! Hebrew the language and Israelites did not exist in ancient history!
There’s no proof that there were slaves and Kmt in ancient history! Joseph was never a slave in Kmt!Hyksos only controlled a foot whole in lower Kmt! They did not rule all of Kmt!No King was never a Hyksos! False teaching! Hyksos enter Kmt with no war! Study and Research the truth!Joseph did not exist in ancient history!
@Niko Bellic are you Jewish?
@Niko Bellic it’s not hating is telling the real the Jewish people are Europeans who founded Israeli in 1948 and spoke Hebrew!
@@andrelove4183 "there no proof that there slaves in egypt" man you dumb
thanks for tying jewish mythology to Egyptian history, not sure how much is true however
This is nonsense. You can't date based on the Bible.
When bible mentions ramses you can
@@algl4569 No you can't.
Then please go enjoy something else, because we believe it !! Simple like that 😉
@@MrJonathansara No you can't. First of all there were about 11 pharaos that were called Ramses in the new period alone. How do you know which one it is talking about?
Ramesses II it can't be, since he lived in the 1300s to 1200s bc, which is way too late for the Exodus. That means there was less than 300 years between Moses and David.
Moses couldn't have lived after 1560 bc anyway because that was the date the Egyptian army destroyed Yericho which wasn't rebuild until the 9th century bc.
U mad
Your dates are way out and your data is absurdly wrong.
What bullshit.
Hyksos = Hebrews
Does anyone else think that they sound suspiciously like jews?
If you make up dates for mythical characters that align with archaeological records, it all fits.
Or you could be a bit more open minded and realize that myths have their roots in historical accounts that are then embellished, added to, mixed with other stories and then elevated to holy stature.... You know... How humans work
@@humbleopulence People make stuff up and sometimes enough people believe it that it becomes a religion.
@@Astromancerguy doesn't mean it doesn't have historical roots. It just means it was exaggerated and embellished. Not always, ofc, but a lot of the time
You do know a lot of cities and people in the Bible have been found and dated, right?
@@matthewstump7563 After the Bronze Age, things start to align better with archaeology.
A lot of assumptions, not a lot of proof.
Your presentation is very vague. A group of Semitic had settled in lower Egypt around the delta region for about 100 years and when the Hyksos invaded Egypt the group that was already there living alongside the indigenous Black African Egyptians joined forces with the other Semitic group to overthrow the Egyptians and ended the Middle Kingdom. The Hyksos put the native Black African Egyptians into enslavement for about 150 years until they were freed from enslavement by Pharaoh Ahmose who defeated the Semitic Hyksos and expelled them from Africa. The Jews and there Semitic Conrad's enslaved the indigenous Black African Egyptians. This is the only real truth. The photos you used to show the the Semitic Jewish people's in Egypt with two indigenous Egyptians in front was photos shop. The original two Egyptians are jet black hue color and the Semitic people's are white. The Bible doesn't tell the real history of Africa, because African history is much older than the Jewish myth in the Bible.
We wuz
That is a false narrative. There was no Hyksos invasion. The Hyksos had lived there for generations and gained power through control of the economy in the region. Like voting in local government.
Randolph, exactly I tell my wife all the time. If someone wanted to know about her mother. Would they ask her or her younger brother. He is only 12 so he doesn't know his mom like my wife does since she is 20 years older. People don't understand Egypt is a baby when you talk about the Nile Valley.
the Pharoah that rose who did not know josephs was the Hyksos king. That's why the records of the Hyksos is damn near blotted out of Egyptian history, and biblical history.
The Hyksos never ruled Kmt! They only had a foot whole in the Delta Niles! They did not enter by war they enter from Phantom and took advantage of the people kindness! There was never no Hyksos pharaoh!To learn more study and research about the kings Ahmose ,Kamose and their father the ruler of Kmt who the Hyksos killed!Hyksos only history!
Ancient history and biblical history don’t match!
Biblical history did not exist in ancient history times times!
@@andrelove4183 who is ezra ? He is not from ancient times ?
this guy has it all wrong... Joseph in Egypt preceded the Hyksos ... when the jews (and Joseph) first came to Egypt they were loved and loyal to the native Egyptians rulers ..they were actually in spiritual union with each other.....
Thereafter, just preceding the birth of Moses, the Hyksos invaded upper Egypt and when they came to power they enslaved the jews because they were loyal to the native Egyptian rulers who were overthrown as they had been since the days of Joseph....
That is why the jews were enslaved ... because they could not be trusted by the Hyksos .... despite them being both of Cananite origin ...
read the Book of Jubilees... its all written there...
Could you imagine looking 17 for 20 years
🤺☦🇷🇺Correction: yes, the Canaanite nations shared a Semitic cultural-linguistic heritage with the Israelites and rest of Semites, but were of the African race family, like Egyptians. They looked differently from Egyptians, in a way that every African race (Hamites) were distinct from each other, but shared genetical simiaties at the same time. They weren't genetically Semites and looked also different from them. The Hyksos were not the Amorites, but other Canaanite tribes probably (Perizites and/or others), or maybe actual Semites, from the Syrian descendants of Nahor's - Abraham's brother, we don't know for sure. But what we do know is that the Apiru who settled in Egypt were a large family, descendants of Eber, of which the Israelites were only a tiny part. It should be noted that the Canaanites were not of the same race, as Apiru, no, and the Amorites were occupying Mesopotamia, not Egypt, so it wasn't them, moreover, the Egyptians called them specifically by their name: Amuru. They weren't called "Shepherd Kings" - that was a corrupted mistranslation of Menethu from Greek, which mislead Josephus to think they were the Israelites, when the true translation was "rulers from foreign lands". Also, I resent painting the Egyptian authorities as hostile to Christian and Jewish traditions - that is not true, only they are rightfully so, not allowing foreigners to try and hijack their culture, and give excuses to the secular Zionists and others to say that they are the ones who built Egypt and the pyramids (Zionists aren't counted as Jews according to true Jews - the Ultra-Orthodox). Zionists don't represent Jews and say stupid ignorant things which disrespect Egyptians. You come to Egyptians with respect and they will show you respect to and cooperate with you.
How do we know when Abraham was born?
We don't, although most agree he lived sometime between 2400 bc to 1600 bc... That's about as close as we get lol
1948 B.C.
From his birth certificate, duh
A lot of this is correct but 14th Dynasty also ruled in The North East at Avaris just like The Hyksos 15th (16th Dynasty ruled in South). The only difference between them is that 14th were Canaanite while The Hyksos were Semitic but most people are now saying that this is a lie and they were one and same Semitic Group.
Really? Religion? Bye, I unsubscribe.
Lot of people in the comments have never been to university and it shows. They don't understand the dynamics of an academic lecture nor how to deal with proposed THEORIES. The caveat to any lecture of this nature is that it is a theory. Actual students in an academic situation understand this. People in this comment thread don't.
your lecture almost sounds like it's fact based, and there might even be some little truth to it, and to all the commenters here, we figured out the earth wasn't flat a long time ago
Abraham was Chaldean not Hebrew!
he was the father of the coming hebrew nation.
He was semites from Eber, he spoke hebrew, probably this family would never been involved in the babel tower construction and so did not see his language changed.
@@joroco-wm7oh Genesis 11:28 - “And Haran died in the presence of his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees"
Lakitu Tha Boss yeah and so he was and hebrew speaker in Ur.
@@joroco-wm7oh A bit long but worth reading:
Even among polished nations, nobody, without writing, has an idea of the sixth preceding generation ; how then could the pretended gene alogy of Abraham have been preserved ? especially among the Jews, who could keep no regular and uninterrupted monument either of the judges, or of their ancestors' stay in Egypt. This genealogy does not belong to them ; they borrowed it from the Chaldeans ; it is entirely Chaldean. Now, among the Chaldeans it belongs to the mythological times, as well as the deluge and the giants with whom Abraham was connected ; it is on this account that all the details are so cir cumstantial. From the habit we are in of considering Abraham as a man, we are shocked at first, when told that this is a fictitious and alle gorical personage, and nothing else but the per sonified genius of a planet ; nevertheless, such is the case with a crowd of pretended kings, princes, and patriarchs of the ancient nations of the east.
Who would not imagine that Hermes was a sage, a philosopher, an eminent astronomer among the Egyptians? And, nevertheless, Hermes when analysed, is but the personified genius, at one time of the star Sirius, at another of the planet Mercury. Who would not believe that among the Indians, the seven richis, or patriarchs, were holy penitents, who taught men devout practices still subsisting? And yet the seven richis are only the genii of the seven stars of the constel lation of the Bear, regulating the course of navi gators and labourers who contemplate it. From the moment that by the natural metaphor of their languages, the ancient orientalists personified the celestial bodies, the ambiguity introduced a dis order of ideas, which increased from day to day, both by the ignorance of a credulous superstitious people, and by the mysterious enigmatical use made of it by those initiated in the science, as well as by the poetical turn given it by authors of ardent imaginations. It is therefore not surprising that Abraham, a CHALDEAN KING, PATRIARCH, and ASTROLOGER, when analysed, in his actions and character, should be only the genius of a star or planet. In the first place, every genius of a star is king : he governs a portion of the heavens and earth, subject to his influence; his hmages or idols always bear a crown, the emblem of supreme power. Abraham we are told reigned at Damascus, and his name was preserved there. If he had been but the temporary commander of an army, he would not have left so lasting an im pression. He had gone to Egypt and taught astrology there ; he even invented it, Eupolemus says, as well as Chaldaic. That a foreigner should instruct the Egyptians in astrology, sixteen or seventeen centuries before our era, when the Egyptians had been for so many ages the masters and inventors of that science, is inadmissible, and evidently fabulous: here Abraham has all the characteristics of Thaut or Hermes, who invented astrology and the letters of the alphabet; who surpassed all men in the knowledge of celestial and natural matters: who was a philosopher and king; but who in his original type, is but the genius of the star Sothis or Syrius, which announced the overflowing of the Nile, & Abraham, in the homicidal sacrifice of his only son, represents another divinity equally re nowned for his science. Let us hear Sanconiatho, who wrote about 1300 years before our era. ' Saturn, whom the Phoenicians call Israel, had by a nymph of the country, a male child whom he named JEOUD, that is, one and only. On the breaking out of a war, which brought the country into imminent danger, Saturn erected an altar, brought to it his son, clothed in royal garments, and sacrificed him.' But Saturn reigned in Phoenicia, having for his secretary Thant or Hermes, and after his death, they consecrated to him the star that bears his name. Will it be said that Sanconiathon, who consulted an Hebrew priest named Jerombal, disfigured the account of Genesis 1 1 We maintain, on the contrary, that this author's accounts tend to prove its non-existence in his time, from their being absolutely different. The truth is, that the Phoenicians, a people much more ancient than the Hebrews, had their own particular mythology, to whom this fact appertains, instead of having borrowed from the Jews, whom they detested. Why then this resemblance? Because a similar tradition prevailed among the Chaldeans, a nation of Arabian origin, like the Canaanites; but the Jewish author of Genesis, endeavoured to make every trace of idolatry disappear, in order to give to his account the historical and moral character that suited his purpose. The analogy, or rather identity, of Abraham and Saturn, is not confined to this fact. ' The most learned Persian authors,' says Doctor Hyde,' ' assert that in the old Chaldean books, ABRAHAM is named ZEROUAN and ZERBAN, which means rich in gold; keeper of the gold. [It is remarkable that Genesis calls Abraham, very rich in gold and in silver: and also mighty prince* which occurs in the ancient books where he is called king ;] these same books call him also ZERHOUN and Zar-man, that is decrepit old man. The Persians apply to him the special epithet of great, and it is an ancient tradition, that his tomb was to be seen at Cutha, in Chaldea. His reputation was not confined to Judea, but extended over all the East.' Now since the name of ZEROUAN is found in the Berosian Sybil, and in the fragment of Mar Ibas quoted in the fifth century of our era, by Moses of Chorene, and copied by the Chaldean book that Alexander ordered to be translated; already the good information of the Persian authors is proved; let us add, that another Sybil, in the same circumstance, instead of ZEROUAN names SATURN; that Abydenus associates Saturn instead of ZEROUAN with TITAN; the identity of Saturn, Zerouan, and Abraham becomes evident.
How more obvious can it be that the Hyksos are the Israelites? I don’t get how “scholars” keep missing this obvious point. Don’t agree? Do some research and also look at the end of the Minoan culture and what happened in the world at that time.
cibociscool exactly
Kiem Ubml
My research aligns with what you are saying
They are linked but not identical.
That depiction and description of the Hyksos is Hilarious.
this guy has it all wrong... Joseph in Egypt preceded the Hyksos ... when the jews (and Joseph) first came to Egypt they were loved and loyal to the native Egyptians rulers ..they were actually in spiritual union with each other.....
Thereafter, just preceding the birth of Moses, the Hyksos invaded upper Egypt and when they came to power they enslaved the jews because they were loyal (as they had been since the days of Joseph) to the native Egyptian rulers who were overthrown...
That is why the jews were enslaved ... because they could not be trusted by the Hyksos .... despite them being both of Cananite origin ...
read the Book of Jubilees... its all written there...
Biblical stories do not have actual dates attached to them so the exact timeline here is speculative. It could just as easily be that Joseph was one of the vizier rulers mentioned at the beginning and that him welcoming his brothers into Egypt represents the Hyksos taking power.
This is my theory also. It makes the most sense.
This is the Quran tells about it , Hyksos are monotheist in nature, Prophet youssef ( VIZOR,s) was of Hyksos. Later they lost power by corruption and betritrial of some Hyksos to Egyptian Pharoo, ( sura yussef , al quran ) . Marvellous quran channel.
Actually some give some indication of when events happen but somehow or another people don’t put credence to them. Example, in 1 Kings 6:1 the exodus is suppose to have happened 480years from the building of the temple of Solomon. Based on the commonly agreed date of 966 of the building of the temple and the fact that the Jews used the lunar calendar this dates the exodus to around 1431BC. This would be during the time of Thutmoses iii as the Pharaoh of the exodus. However, many place the exodus during the time of Ramses ii mainly because of reference to the cities of Pithom and Ramses. This is an anachronism because the Bible was written way after the event and it reflects the name of the city during that time rather than the time of Moses. The old name of Pithom and Ramses is Avaris, the capital of the Hyksos rulers of Egypt.
Joseph was a Trojan horse. His brothers didn't sell him into slavery, he was sent there to roll out the welcome mat. There is a reason the elohim sent the bloodline of Abraham on a quest from Mesopotamia to Egypt, a reason the Hyksos invaded and brought a curse upon the land, a reason why they looted Egypt and took over Canaan/Phoenicia as their "promised land." This ancient egypto-mesopotamian cult are the nephilim offspring of the elohim rulers and principalities of this world. The biblical story is a well-crafted veil to hide who they really are and why they are really here on Earth, and America is their modern-day Egypt and Israel is their modern-day Canaan/Phoenicia. They just repeat the same lie throughout the ages, but they revise history and kill off opposition so that people do not connect the dots on the real truth of these alien invaders.
The Hyksos are from Cutha/Cuthites.
Cutha is the Birthplace of Abraham
Cutha/Cuthites are known as the Samaritans and the Babylonian Jews
The Samaritan, Simon Magus is the founder of the Universal Catholic Church
The God of Cutha is Nergal/Mars
Ur is the birthplace of Abraham.
If the Hyksos looked like the Canaanites then they would also look like the Egyptians because Canaan and Egypt are brothers.
So Jewish people worked with the Hyksos, like the Romans, and when Kamose and Ahmose I took the land back from foreign rule they fled under the name “Moses” and “cursed Ham (Africa) and Canaan (Israel) into eternal slavery ” and “promised” the Land of Canaan to themselves.
Kamose and Ahmose I took the land back, we know that. Ahmose I sister-wife is black, we know that.
Either they were the Hyksos or worked with them, which is way they fled. If freed, free of guilt, my guess would be to stay.
Perhaps working with was out of survival or it was more of a partnership than scripted.
Politics and history don't mix.... Muslims believe the "old testament".... well for the most part.... the dispute is which of Abrahams sons is the promise through
Hyksos are Cuthites from Cutha, the Birthplace of Abraham and the origin of the tribe of the Prophet Muhammad, the Koreshites.
Hyksos/Hebrews=Habiru/Apiru=Horites.
Abraham was a Horite.
Horites=Followers of Heru
jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2011/01/who-were-horites.html?m=1
summary:
Interesting fact..interesting fact..interesting fact..interesting fact..propaganda for skygod death-cult..interesting fact..interesting fact..interesting fact..more propaganda for skygod death-cult..
You get the picture.
How such an intelligent man, as the presenter obviously is, can be so blinkered by fairy tales is beyond me.
Fortunately, his belief in skygods hasn't stopped his lecture (to sell his book) being interesting, and in the main quite factual.
Hi there,
I mean no disrespect, but i think smart people are the ones who think about what will happen to them after they die.
He did find something he believes in, which you are calling skygod propaganda (i don't know yet if he is jewish or christian or something else)
Here is what i think : There is a God almighty saying that he created the heavens and earth and created the humans to test them in life and then after life reward them or punish them according to their deeds. (This is the case for judaism, christianity and islam)
if this is true then we all have 2 cases :
aim to believe and do good in which case we will win great rewards and not get punished - big win
Disbelieve, do whatever what want good and bad in which case we'll get punished - big loss
And if this is not true and life ends with death then everyone will have the same fate no one wins or loses after death
Actually u don't have to be smart to figure it out.
Peace to you, wish you the best
Ya, it's amazing how people will talk about mythologies and what they were trying to convey, then all of the sudden jump into the Bible likes it's some sort of verbatim historical account. Did Abraham even exist? Is there any non Biblical sourcing for that? Was he mentioned by the Egyptians? smh
@@jannaneabdessamad9468 I wish the same 'smart' people would worry more about making things better for everyone, not just themselves.
@@TheAdeybob You must be fun at parties
@@idontgiveafaboutyou lol...not with low-information people, no
This whole interpretation is inconsistent for several reasons as follows:
If Joseph was in the Delta region and helped the Hyskos, then why did it Thebans benefit.
Did Joseph suffer imprisonment in the Lower Egypt or Upper Egypt?
More importantly, Joseph being Semitic probably was the ally of rhe Hyskos.
this guy has it all wrong... Joseph in Egypt preceded the Hyksos ... when the jews (and Joseph) first came to Egypt they were loved and loyal to the native Egyptians rulers ..they were actually in spiritual union with each other.....
Thereafter, just preceding the birth of Moses, the Hyksos invaded Lower Egypt and when they came to power they enslaved the jews because they were loyal to, as they had been since the days of Joseph, the native Egyptian rulers who were overthrown...
That is why the jews were enslaved ... because they could not be trusted by the Hyksos .... despite them being both of Cananite origin ...
read the Book of Jubilees... its all written there...
False teaching!Biblical history did not exist in ancient history
The Hyksos are Canaanites/Ashkenazis not ancient ISRAELITES that spoke Hebrew
"Sherperd Kings" interesting terms for the Hykos Kings. Looks like the Ancient Hykos were the ancient Israelites as the archaeologists were trying to bury the ancient israelites history.
I can't wait to learn how Noah's 950-year lifetime figure's into this guy's claims of the Bible as "archeology".
This is totally wrong logically and historicall called Hyksos king as "Pharaoh ". They are call "Al malik " . Simple logic is neither hyksos or local egyptian native won't tell the kind as " Pharaoh" cos its not Ethnically Egyptian. ( during Prophet Yussef time there was conspiracy was going to ousted Hyksos king re stablished Pharoh king againe ) , see " Marvellous Quran " YT cahnnel. Actually Propet Youssef exposed that conspiracy to king
Nothing this guy said is actually verifiable with actual evidence. I think Moses was a Egyptian priest of the Aten. Amen.
YUSUF LIVED IN THE TIME OF HIKSOS KING YAKUP-HAR M.Ö 1650
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Imagine if people continued to compile mythological history into the Bible. All the wars since then started by one man as Jesus started the Jewish revolt. It would make for one hell of a story.
Jesus didn’t start the Jewish revolt in the slightest, he died at least 35, if not 40, years before it broke out. The inciting incident for the revolt, according to Josephus (the first non-Christian to document Jesus), was much simpler and more vulgar.
In 66 AD, on Passover, some Roman soldiers were in the Temple and, deciding to mock the high priests, mooned the priests and farted at them. This led to a massive riot, followed by a harsh crackdown which, according to Josephus, caused a stampede that killed 10,000 Jews. After this incident, the Jewish rebellion shifted from being scattered bands of Sicarii into a massive, province-wide open revolt.
@@Pantsinabucket that would have John dying before Jesus. John was killed around 32-34. The Jewish revolt was started by bar kamza or you could call him jesus of gamala. Who is also the husband of Mary Magdalene. Professor Robert eiseman explains the connection between Mary Magdalene and Mary boethus. Mary boethus also had a sister named Martha and a brother named Lazarus and they lived a the house of Simon as well.
@@justblazenone Jesus died ~30-33 AD, putting him before your dating of John’s death. That’s still at minimum 33-36 years before the great Jewish revolt. Josephus doesn’t record any of this, and he’s our best source on it, not the Talmud.
@@Pantsinabucket Jesus was connected with edessa which is the adiabene Josephus always talks about. Jesus of gamala is the biblical Jesus
dude lost me when he started putting exact dates to bible stories while at the same time taking the ages and life-spans of biblical characters literally
Perfectly said. Convenient isn't it. One actually HAS some evidence the other none whatsoever.
Haven't you ever heard of Sodom, & Gomorrah. The dated ruins of these two Old Testament cities have been excavated for decades now, & the destruction levels have indeed been Carbon 14 dated. That these twin settlements were indeed the victims of simultaneous destruction, never to rebuilt, or resettled, seems abundantly clear. You may not see these dated ruins as evidence of anything, but the extent of the physical destruction, & the rough time period the devastation took place may not technically confirm the biblical account, but the fact that both towns were destroyed at the same time apparently, & that the estimated time of their mutual destruction, doesn't conflict, or refute the biblical account in any significant way isn't nothing.
Dude lost me when he finally, finally, confirmed that he doesn't really know, after lectures of listening to this utterly unsubstantiated BS.
@@kellyowens1868 Carbon 14 dating in that geographical region and time is notoriously unreliable and not consistent, chronologically.
Abraham is supposedly from Ur of the Chaldees
I enjoy these biblical-focused lectures. They should be presented as such, though, to remind us all that a lot of this stuff (esp. 10th Century Unified Monarchy) is highly suspect from a historical standpoint.
SkeletalBassman yeah I find the them enjoyable as well. There are errors occasionally but I can’t help but like this guy. Definitely “biblical” in all ways but I find the historiography of biblical history to be fascinating.
If you aren't able to figure out that it is a biblical lecture, and need to be "warned" about it,. . . weak mind alert!
Figures like Abraham are as mythical as Odysseus, aren't they?
@@Blackadder75 Abraham is in the earth today, you all call them Blacks.
@@tiathompson6674 what does that mean? I am not American by the way, I don't call any body blacks
Where are the rest of these lectures?
Harry LaFountaine here is the playlist!
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There was 2 pharaohs from about 1700bc to around 1550bc..
Rot Gut exactly a Hyksos and theban Pharoah.
@@kreativekonsciousnessbykim8686 Hyksos never ruled Kmt! King was ambushed by the Hyksos and his to sons revenge his death Kamose and Ahmose!
Really?
@@idontgiveafaboutyou yes. The Hyksos pharaoh of the northern delta and the southern pharaoh... The Hyksos pharaohs were considered tyrants because they invaded Egypt and enslaved their own people as well as the native Egyptians... The Hyksos were overthrown by Ahmose 1 the real moses
I thought Abraham was born 1948?
Your spot on,according to Eusebius Joseph was Vizier to the 15th dynasty King Apophis.The Exodus took place in the Amarna period.
this guy has it all wrong... Joseph in Egypt preceded the Hyksos ... when the jews (and Joseph) first came to Egypt they were loved and loyal to the native Egyptians rulers ..they were actually in spiritual union with each other.....
Thereafter, just preceding the birth of Moses, the Hyksos invaded upper Egypt and when they came to power they enslaved the jews because they were loyal (as they had been since the days of Joseph) to the native Egyptian rulers who were overthrown.....
That is why the jews were enslaved ... because they could not be trusted by the Hyksos .... despite them being both of Cananite origin ...
read the Book of Jubilees... its all written there...
I really enjoyed your lecture! Thank you!
this guy has it all wrong... Joseph in Egypt preceded the Hyksos ... when the jews (and Joseph) first came to Egypt they were loved and loyal to the native Egyptians rulers ..they were actually in spiritual union with each other.....
Thereafter, just preceding the birth of Moses, the Hyksos invaded upper Egypt and when they came to power they enslaved the jews because they were loyal to, as they had been since the days of Joseph, the native Egyptian rulers who were overthrown...
That is why the jews were enslaved ... because they could not be trusted by the Hyksos .... despite them being both of Cananite origin ...
read the Book of Jubilees... its all written there...
I feel sad every time he says "you know the story".
Wonder how much money the people in the audience paid for the lectures.
Thank you.
Keith Shuler you’re very welcome!
Hyksos were arabs ?
When the guard took Joseph before the Pharoh, they shaved him and cut his hair while cleaning him up. The hyksos didn't have such strict hygiene practices. The true Egyptians were obsessed with hygiene.
IMO, one of the last 12th Dynasty Pharaohs was the dream Pharaoh and the Hyksos are the relatives of Joseph who started usurping power after a generation or two.
Land o' Goshen! This has the makings of The Greatest Story Ever Told !!
"so let it be written, so let it be done"
Goshen refering to egyption rulong family of 600th bc.
That's what confused some people they thought the pyramids were was built with mud bricks because of the Jewish Hyksos. . I refer to them as Jewish because Josephus refer to them as Jewish. even with the invasion of the Hyksos all of the pyramids in Egypt was already built. It was no Hebrew slaves building any pyramids. One of the first pyramids to be built was the pyramid that Imhotep built. And at that time there was no people call Hebrew ,Hebrew Israelites lost sheep in the desert nothing.
At 12:58 This why the Egyptians hated them:
Genesis 47
20 And Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh; for the Egyptians sold every man his field, because the famine prevailed over them: so the land became Pharaoh's.
21 And as for the people, he removed them to cities from one end of the borders of Egypt even to the other end thereof.
22 Only the land of the priests bought he not; for the priests had a portion assigned them of Pharaoh, and did eat their portion which Pharaoh gave them: wherefore they sold not their lands.
23 Then Joseph said unto the people, Behold, I have bought you this day and your land for Pharaoh: lo, here is seed for you, and ye shall sow the land.
24 And it shall come to pass in the increase, that ye shall give the fifth part unto Pharaoh, and four parts shall be your own, for seed of the field, and for your food, and for them of your households, and for food for your little ones.
25 And they said, Thou hast saved our lives: let us find grace in the sight of my lord, and we will be Pharaoh's servants.
26 And Joseph made it a law over the land of Egypt unto this day, that Pharaoh should have the fifth part; except the land of the priests only, which became not Pharaoh's.
www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-Chapter-47/
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Gutieans? From the east flushed out refugees to Egypt?
24:27 The scriptures say 70 of them.
Hyksos people were Asian ? There are many Asian pharaohs the statues seem to be Philippine
They weren’t
Interesting stuff. I've become quite fascinated with scripture and this helps to establish a more complete understanding of the historical context. Thanks, Nick.
This "lecture" is 100% bullshit. This clown is stating as fact that Old testament characters existed. Only the Old T mentions Abraham and Moses. Archeologist totally debunked the exodus story. It never happened.
@Bill Scott I see, another fairytale mentions a fairytale.
@@Itsatz0 Archaeology has done no such thing! The fact the exodus is an essentially nomadic wandering means it is practically impossible to verify, particularly with the sheer antiquity of the event. You offer absolutely nothing to the discussion.
@@Itsatz0 How can it be 100% bullshit!?! The biblical sources are the most extant ancient source documents that exist regarding any, ANY, ancient events! Nothing else comes close! When the Bible touches on history, and it does it A LOT, it is invariably found to be correct!
Check your anger! It's exposing your ignorance!
@@zabaleta66 More hot air. If you had evidence why not present it? If you had evidence, that would mean I really do offer absolutely nothing to the discussion. But you start off admitting there is no evidence. And I have nothing to offer? Then explain why the meticulous records the Egyptians left us don't mention it? Of course your fairytale bible can't mention exactly which pharaoh it was who Moses had his conflict with. Of course it is a fairytale. Because if they did mention his name, it would be fact checked against the Egyptian records. There is no mention of slaves building pyramids in Egypt. They were built by Egyptians. And I have nothing to offer?
the leaders of the Hyksos were Indo-Eauropean (Aryan) warriors from the steppe . they gathered an army of locals and came to Egypt with the first horses and chariots. . they did this same thing in India and europe about the same time
that's unproven as of yet, they could've just as easily been Semitic peoples who had picked up the chariot technology from the Mycenaeans
@@celtofcanaanesurix2245 from my studies it was the amorites who were a faction of the so called Canaanites.
@@jerksrreal I got that from the video
@@celtofcanaanesurix2245 I never finished after the 5:00 mark...this is old info for me.
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You still accept the debunked aryan invasion myth 😅
what is the name of the speaker?
You make this history so clear. I loved it.
this guy has it all wrong... Joseph in Egypt preceded the Hyksos ... when the jews (and Joseph) first came to Egypt they were loved and loyal to the native Egyptians rulers ..they were actually in spiritual union with each other.....
Thereafter, just preceding the birth of Moses, the Hyksos invaded upper Egypt and when they came to power they enslaved the jews because they were loyal to( as they had been since the days of Joseph) the native Egyptian rulers who were overthrown...
That is why the jews were enslaved ... because they could not be trusted by the Hyksos .... despite them being both of Cananite origin ...
read the Book of Jubilees... its all written there...
Yuna 736 before birth
This man is extremely good teacher 😊
this guy has it all wrong... Joseph in Egypt preceded the Hyksos ... when the jews (and Joseph) first came to Egypt they were loved and loyal to the native Egyptians rulers ..they were actually in spiritual union with each other.....
Thereafter, just preceding the birth of Moses, the Hyksos invaded upper Egypt and when they came to power they enslaved the jews because they were loyal (as they had been since the days of Joseph) to the native Egyptian rulers who were overthrown...
That is why the jews were enslaved ... because they could not be trusted by the Hyksos .... despite them being both of Cananite origin ...
read the Book of Jubilees... its all written there...
Stop lying we are not pharaohs just Egyptians
You are not the people that the world has in mind thinking about the ancient Egyptians either so relax
@@ghettoyouthkatakyni7843 go to school and study English
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Looool. I've seen the true depiction on the temple wall themselves! Whitewashing is definitely happening here
I know it's for enjoyment purposes but he did make a mistake when saying the Hyksos were Amorites. - From wikipedia: The Hyksos are believed to have originated to the north of Palestine.[17] They destroyed Amorite-ruled Byblos in the 18th century BC, and then entered Egypt, bringing the Middle Kingdom to an end in the 17th century BC.[18]
Wikipedia isn't the best source
RFmath yes but when there are numbers next to the facts that means it’s sourced
Rob F most opinions- even scholarly articles scan be sourced. Doesn’t mean it is, indeed, factual. It’s an opinion.
Lawton Strickland then show me the evidence that says the Hyksos were Amorites
Rob F I’m not disputing that fact; respectfully, though, merely saying something is sourced doesn’t mean it’s fact.
Let's start with Akhenaten . Akhenaten wrote religious texts. Hymns to the sun god aten that is before the Bible the Torah the Quran you have similarities. The early Christian and Jewish writers had access to the ancient Egyptian writings as you seen Josephus had Egyptian Scripps that he was translating. Moses went to school in Egypt if he existed he had to learn the 42 confessions of ma'at it is older than the Bible the Torah the Quran it was the laws of the land of Egypt. It is similar to The Ten Commandments. The story of Moses being put in a basket and put in the river is similar to the story of Horus being put in the river in a basket being protected by ISIS and his sister. The story of Horus is older than the Bible the Torah the Quran. the resurrection in the Immaculate Conception story of Osiris Isis and Horus is older than the bible Torah Quran older than the Jesus story itself. the Pharaoh they said Chase Moses into the sea was Ramses II but Ramses II live till he was 90. The only Exodus that was recorded out of Egypt was The Exodus of Akhenaten moving from one city to create another Holy City
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U wouldn’t start with him because he is part of the 18 dynasty of the New Kingdom.
@@kreativekonsciousnessbykim8686 the ancient African records that was kept debunk a lot of religious myths. Akhenaten was one who wrote spiritual text that the later religious writers adopted some of his writing. For instance The Great Hymn to the Aten . These writings are similar to passages in the Bible Akhenaten writing is older.
@@kreativekonsciousnessbykim8686 we can start with the primordial Waters. Atum and Nun creating the world from the primordial Waters that story is written in stone papyrus's and temples older than the Bible the Torah the Quran. You had no Hebrew Hebrew Israelites in existence when those stories was being written. That means no Abraham, Abraham so-called be in the first Jew
@@kreativekonsciousnessbykim8686 now let's look at the African records they go before Ham during Ham and after Ham. You have the birth year of Ham 2204 BC Son of Noah. So if there was a flood and everyone died except Noah and his kids who continued the African historical writings? We can also look at the story of Isis Osiris and Horus and Set. That one story is older than the Bible the Torah the Quran. The African Resurrection story of Osiris . The Immaculate Conception story . The story of brother killing brother Set killing his brother Osiris. All those stories and more came before Cain and Abel the story of Jesus. The Council of Nicea as well as earlier writers adopted a lot of things from those African writings.
@@kreativekonsciousnessbykim8686 the Egyptian deity called Amen. When praying to him at the end of the prayer you said amen. there was no Bible no Torah no Quran no people by the name of Hebrew around when this deity was being worship. Now we can talk about Egyptian deity Khnum . Before a Bible or Torah or Quran written on Papyrus pyramid text and stone tablets Khnum depicted on pyramids making man from Clay on his potter's wheel later to be adopted by other. What the ancient Africans wrote about was mythological but very well written
They're called shepherd kings because they shepherd sheep, in the same way the Christ does.
The shepherd their flock (the Hyksos) to Egypt. Whats the word for Shepherd in Akkadian?
Reese Chronological Bible complied by Frank R. Klassen (Bethany House Publishers, 1977) indicates that the Israelites entered the Promised Land in 1422 B.C. (Joshua 1) and that Joshua died in 1372 B.C (Joshua 24:29
Amarna letters (14th century bc), cuneiform
The letters show that Egypt held considerable power over these Canaanite kings. One letter written by a king of Babylon named "Burra-Buriyas" complains about the killing of Babylonian merchants in Canaan and reminds Egypt's pharaoh that "the land of Canaan is your land and its kings are your servants."
An Egyptian amulet bearing the name of the Egyptian ruler Thutmose III was found in Israel dating back around 1200 bc. Here are some sources: (Jerusalem Post, Biblical Archaeology Society, The times of Isreal, Breaking Isreal News, Isreal National News).There are many more ancient Egyptian artifacts in Israel.
Asked how the Egyptian amulet could have reached so far as Jerusalem, Dr. Barkay told the City of David, “For more than 300 years, during the Late Bronze Age, Canaan and the city state of Jerusalem were under Egyptian dominion.”
basalt stele( currently at the Israel Museum) excavated at Beth Shean( Northern Israel) depicts the victory of the pharaoh Seti I, who reasserted Egyptian rule over Canaan in the 13th century B.C.
Also had the battle of Kadesh (1274 Bc) which a treaty was signed between the Egyptians and Hittites who lived in current Turkey. This proves Egypt again at this time, had full control of what is now Israel because they would of gone through Isreal. (Kadesh Treaty tablets are displayed in Istanbul Archeology Museum)
Israel or Canaan was always a vassal state of KMT, Hatti, Babylon, Assyria, Greeks, Romans, etc. Never an independent nation until the 20th century
Joseph was most likely Yuya of Ancient Egypt - KV46. ‘Father to the Lord of two lands’ was inscribed on his tomb paralleling Gen 45:8. His Semitic daughter Tiye married Amenhotep III, father of Akhenaten, under whose reign monotheism became prominent.
Chronologically impossible and it wouldn't make much sense for a Pharaoh to despise a whole people under that interpretation...
My revised timeline of the Hebrews bondage in Egypt, from Joseph too the building of the first temple.
In *(c1890BC),* Joseph Birthday,
In *(c1873BC),* Aged seventeen he was taken in bondage to Egypt, and within a year he was falsely accused of rape and spent thirteen years in prison.
In *(c1860BC),* Aged thirty he met Pharaoh Amenemhet III, (Middle Kingdom); (c1860 - 1814BC)
In *(c1780BC),* Joseph died aged one hundred & ten
And Joseph’s bones, which the sons of Israel had brought up out of Egypt, they buried in She′chem in the tract of the field that Jacob had acquired from the sons of Ha′mor, She′chem’s father, for a hundred pieces of money; and it came to belong to the sons of Joseph as an inheritance. (Joshua 24:32) . . .
. . .By faith Joseph, nearing his end, made mention of the exodus of the sons of Israel; and he gave a command concerning his bones. (Hebrews 11:22)
In *(c1553BC),* Moses Birthday.
In *(c1513BC),* Moses fled from Egypt.
In *(c1473BC),* Moses returned to Egypt.
18th Dynasty
THUTMOSE II (c1493 - {c1479BC?})
In *(c1433BC),* Moses died aged one hundred & twenty,
In *(c993BC),* Four hundred and eighty years after the exodus Solomon began construction of the first temple, It took seven years to complete.
The Egyptian brothers Kamose & Ahmose existed & the Hyksos Expulsion was real. Moses never existed & Jewish Exodus never happened
Kmt was the name of the land!Youre right Kings Kamose and Ahmose and the Hyksos (Facts)! Moses Joseph (No Facts)!
If we are unable to find a proof of his existence doesn't mean moses did not exist.
I'm not jewish but i do believe moses existed and was a great man.
Maybe one day someone will find something.
We won't find proof of moses existence because according to scripture, their remains and history were dug up and destroyed. You won't find too many artifacts because what survived is under lock and key with armed guards. Just like the crossing of the red sea exists(gulf of Aquba), Noah's ark exists(top of Mt. Ararat), Mt Horeb, where Moses communed with "god"(in Saudi Arabia, now called Jebel AL Lawrence, which the local people call Jebel Musa- Moses mountain).
@@moparjeeps8362 for real! Where are you are wake up and stop lying!Specially to yourself!
It's now been proven that the hyksos were indigenous and lived for centuries in that part of Egypt. They integrated into society over these centuries.The term hyksos came later post their rule. They came from all over the Mediterranean married and settled in that part of Egypt. Got the opportunity to rise in power right up to Pharos. Some achievement in itself.
I think I like Aren Maeir better...he's a little more skeptical about the details of ancient lore
All of this is good and all but who is Joseph in history, who is Potipherah (Potiphar) and King in time of Joseph in actual history?
Please answer.
I really hope the lecturer isn't religious, religious people tend to have an inate bias when covering the subject of the historicity of the old/new testament.
It seems you have an innate bias against religious people. Are you blind to your hypocrisy?
@Gary Allen poppycock
@@russianbot8423 a religious russian bot, nice paradox
@@Blackadder75 That's a logical outcome of a super advanced A.I. having access to all human knowledge and not only Wikipedia.
@@russianbot8423 Super advance AI, relative to "Happy Days"
This channels other video on the Hyksos seems at direct odds with this video. Not sure why this guy is acting like the Bible is a history book. Hyksos were Canaanites and Egyptians share the same DNA as most peoples throughout the entire region.
Wasn't thousands of them that moved to Egypt it was 70 people.
no way at least a 100
I used to find Amorites on the beach.
Ammonites*
At 26:38 he said there was a Jewish settlement, correct me if I am wrong but there was no such people called the Jews until after the nation
of Israel was divided into two kingdoms after the death of Solomon as recorded in the second book of Kings. The northern kingdom
was called Israel and their capitol was Semaria and the southern kingdom was called Judah and their capitol was Jerusalem.
It was sometime after this when the people of kingdom of Judah began to called themselves Jews a nick name for the people of
that kingdom. Nowhere in scripture are the people of the northern kingdom Israel were ever called Jews only the people of Judah.
In scripture the northern kingdom of Israel is sometimes called the house Israel and the southern kingdom was called house Judah.
Note the clear distinction in scripture, they became two separate kingdoms from that time forward and they never reunited again
into one kingdom Israel. So you see this settlement can not be called a Jewish settlement there were no Jews at that time.
Weren't the Hyksos rulers known as "Kings" (in the Quran Joseph deals with a King) rather than as Pharaohs? I believe the mass slavery of the Hebrews occurred in Upper Egypt, specifically northern Nubia (the gold mines), where we know such a practice became common between 1600 and 1550 according to (Margaret Bunson). There is plenty of evidence of that. I appreciate you sharing this video. It helped me frame the context for the movement of Goshen Hebrews to the southern gold mines, the pre-text of the Exodus.
this guy has it all wrong... Joseph in Egypt preceded the Hyksos ... when the jews (and Joseph) first came to Egypt they were loved and loyal to the native Egyptians rulers ..they were actually in spiritual union with each other.....
Thereafter, just preceding the birth of Moses, the Hyksos invaded upper Egypt and when they came to power they enslaved the jews because they were loyal to the native Egyptian rulers who were overthrown as they had been since the days of Joseph....
That is why the jews were enslaved ... because they could not be trusted by the Hyksos .... despite them being both of Cananite origin ...
read the Book of Jubilees... its all written there...
The Birth of Abraham was precisely in the year 2018 B.C. And it was precisely 1944 B.C. when Abraham first entered Egypt and his wife Sarah was taken by Pharaoh who thought she was Abraham's sister.
And I will be perfectly honest with you, the Kings List given by modern scholars for Egypt's King List is based on the very fragmented Babylonian Kings List which also bases itself on a single fragment of a business transaction tablet mentioning one of two possible Lunar Eclipses.
As a lifelong Computer Programmer and Biblical Chronology Researcher there is no mistake in those years I have now given you. They began at a well established starting point at a proven point of the year 455 B.C. based on King Darius records and working backwards using a computer generated plot of known Biblical genealogy and events to establish them.
there's nothing "precise" about dates in Hebrew mythology
How did you get Abraham's DNA sample?
"And I will be perfectly honest with you....." LMFAO.
If Abram is real, he tried to sell his wife to the pharaoh! His god gave him Canaan but he went to Egypt in defiance of this gift. He was thrown out of Egypt and yet left with untold riches. He was willing to sacrifice his son to his god (who forbade human sacrifice, supposedly). And on and on. Not someone I would teach my children to admire!
You are foolish. He was human and flawed if he was made up to be a hero why would they add the shameful parts?
Russian Bot Bravo answer
Abraham was a Horite
jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2011/01/who-were-horites.html?m=1
Ibraham was born 1825bc means he was in egypt 1750 bc and i can say during seth meribre period in north egypt the 24th pharaoh of the 13th dynasty
You have to watch these guys trying to make the Bible into a history book. The Bible is not history, The Bible gives us "The Law" , but more importantly, the Bible gives us an unbroken lineage from Adam to Yaeshua aka Jesus. If the Bible was an history book we would know much more about all of the children of Adam and Eve, and Jesus , for that matter. We don't.
What many people don't know, within the Old Testament is 4 versions of the same story. You can search youtube to see Hebrew Scholars disgust the 4 known versions of the Old Testament text you wanna call historic. As far as I know, every Pharaoh in the Bible was simply called pharaoh. The Holy Bible never identifies which pharaoh they are talking about. Scholars have to guess - I mean extrapolate .