My Fans Can't Think for Themselves
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2021
- Talking about FANTANO DRONES.
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You’re very fun to disagree with, Melon. You’re also fun to agree with.
Facts
Real fans know this feeling
I disagree
I, too, enjoy his Let's Argue and Let's Agree series
He becomes fun to disagree with once you've done away your insecurities
You're so right Anthony!!!! I totally agree with everything you've said here!!!!! I love how in-sync we are HAHAHAHAHAHA
LMFAO
Im such a narcissistic, insecure egomaniac I have to be sure that my taste in music is really, really good and much better then everyone else's taste in music infact my taste in music is so good I will go from really liking an album or a song to downright hating it because Anthony Fantano said it was mediocre at best.
Edit: Because Anthony Fantano drones are brain dead I should have known better and put a (This is sarcasm) warning
@@Ms-pr7fe Weird flex but ok
@@manny1402 It's called sarcasm
@@internetsafetycar Yes
I was going to like this album, but Anthony said it's a 6/10. Now I have to hate it.
Hate is a strong word when it comes to albums and music. If it’s by Corey Feldman, then it’s justified.
But that kinda positive score, means album is good, not great but some of the albums that I really like are 6
Arizona Baby🥲
@@_PuppetMaster86 why would you hate a cory feldman album? Pure unironic greatness
Anything above a 5 is something Anthony enjoyed. Whether it was at certain points (6-7) or the album altogether (8-10).
"I'm just a resource for you to use however you want to" damn shorty ok
Fantano needa chill 😳😳
I vibes to that
Freaky behaviour
🤣🤣🤣
🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
When Melon pulls out the Williamsburg Soccer Club shirt you know the summer season has officially started
i worry for your mental health
It's about to be a surgical summer......
is Anthony from Williamsburg VA?
@@blob_cancel_aftercast melon is from CT
didn’t jpegmafia make a song called Williamsburg?
Where can I buy Fantano drones? They sound like really cool drones to fly.
The drones reviews in his shop:
*_6/10_*
Anthony stole them from the US military and is rebranding them as his own.
WARNING: DO NOT BUY DRONES FROM BALD GUY WITH THE BEST TEETH IN THE GAME
Definitely read this in Toki Wartooth's voice for no knowable reason
TRAN-SITION to the commercial. Did you love this product? What Would You Rate It? To Pre-Order the DAMN is a 7 Drone, call 1-800-CAL-CUCHESTA.
As a non English native speaker I got confused as well.
"I used to like Logic, you know the rapper? But the needledrop reviews him so poorly, I just don't care for his music anymore."
Damned if that not how his fans actually are. Especially his twitch chat.
MC a real one
Ronald McDonald really has some great taste in youtubers
@@PBandShayne I don't think Anthony has ever negatively influenced my opinion on artists or bands I still.enjoy my fair share of Eminem and 21 pilots , but he definitely introduced me to some new music , that I'm thankful for
"you know about MBDTF? That album is kinda overrated not gonna lie, that's just my opinion"
'people listen to and mindlessly agree with what Fantano says'
Meanwhile Fantano fans: bully him for 10 years foe giving MBDTF 6/10
it’s more the perception of albums they barely know, like people speaking on albums through what fantano said even though they haven’t/barely listened to it. that’s the problem i see the most
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@@itzCrypticIRL But that's completely normal and has nothing to do with Fantano, if a friend of yours talks about a unknown person to you your first impression of such person will be "contaminated" without ever knowing if what your friend said was truth, saying this, people seem to get worked up on Fantano for being famous enough to give a lot of people this "first impression"?
I always agreed with his MBDTF review tbh.
@Nugget No, Fantano has dragged some of my fave albums through the mud. But MBDTF is not one of those.
I just like your reviews because I like the way you talk about music, you have broad enough tastes to be a good resource for stuff outside my comfort zones, and I've been watching since the early early days, so I generally can get a good sense of whether I'll agree with you about an album or not pretty quickly.
It feels unhealthy and weird to get up in arms about this. Like even IF there's an army of drones taking your word as gospel and mimicking your taste, you have pretty broad tastes, so at least they're getting a lot of variety!
I think the problem lies when the drones themselves push opportunities away from The Needle Drop brand.
Care to elaborate on that point at all? The youtube channel seems to do steady numbers even after 12 some odd years of reviews, Melon and the team still manages to land a ton of really cool interviews with people in the business basically every week. If people mimicking his tastes is actually holding opportunities away from the channel, he made no explicit mention of it and I struggle to see a real case to be made for that.
Feels a lot like inventing a type of guy just to be mad online about it.
@@brendonclune5082 I think they mean that the fanbase can be quite toxic which may drive the brands away from associating with the channel (pr-wise).
I mean that's fair, a toxic fanbase might limit brand sponsorship opportunities, but that isn't the topic of discussion here? I don't intend to be obtuse but TND has lots of toxic fans regardless of how much they agree or disagree with Fantano. The video is specifically about people being mad that there's a supposed army of TND stans going on RYM to copy cat his record scores. What I'm asking is how that would impact TND channel or brand? If anything an army of parroting drones would get every manager's mouth salivating to get his approval to boost numbers for their roster, but I just don't see that being the case here.
I’ll go ahead and disagree with you here, Brendon. Take a look at Hopsin’s “Your House” review he streamed. Notice how the chat constantly bags on the song up until the last 3 or so minutes of the reaction where Anthony says he actually digs it. The whole chat changed. At the drop of a hat, the whole attitude changes because people had an opinion to hold onto.
Fantano hasn’t reviewed anything wrong, but there’s this attitude that I’ve noticed from several videos and streams that a bunch of people want to let him do the hard work of formulating an opinion for them.
I mean, realistically, it fits the MO of being on UA-cam or twitch all day. I’d argue that in many cases those people aren’t the “get out there and think / do things for yourself” people.
It’s a matter of people having opinions they really don’t deserve to have because they haven’t worked for them.
I thought he was gonna talk about drone music that sampled his voice
No, but someone write that down you may be onto something
I mean him saying "sheeesh" for an hour is technically a drone.
Same
same
I'm glad you've finally addressed the Fantano drones that have been spotted over Afghanistan
I think the biggest example of the so called “Fantano drones” are the live chat whenever streaming. A lot of the time the chat’s opinion on the poll will almost immediately switch once Anthony voices his
Would always listen to Corey Feldmans masterpiece, “Angelic 2 The Core” but after Melon’s review I love it even more.
If I have to say anything about Anthony he basically started my entire dive into listening to music when he recommended BROCKHAMPTON. Before that review I never listened or even cared about music, I listened to what my dad liked Beatles, Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash, etc. I never fully engaged with it though it was just background music for me. So just browsing youtube and seeing the review and his strongly positive rating I checked the album out on pure curiosity, and at first it didn't hit me, but I kept coming back to it over and over and over again (some could say SAT 1 was like a skin infection lol) and it was legit how I started to listen to rap/hip hop, and indoctrinate me into the culture of music as a whole...
Now I have listened to wide varieties of music and have since entered an entire new world of music that I never knew existed. I do use RYM quite a bit as it houses a ranking of almost everything made in music and its quite convenient to just go there and pick a top rated album at random and try it out, and for the most part I agree with most of the rankings. I however, rate something based on my opinion and I have since watched many Fantano vids and TheNeedleDrop reviews, but most of the time I disagree with Anthony like the new Everything Everything record (8/10), the new Black Midi record (10/10), and the new Saint Vincent record (6/10) just to name a few.
Basically I typed this to mainly thank Anthony for his hard work and dedication that led me to discover one of my favorite bands ever as well as start to engage in the entire culture of music as a whole. Its really opened my eyes to the structure of albums and also soundtracks that accompany video games and movies and how important they actually are in the grand scheme of things as well. Also yeah the so called "Fantano Effect" is pretty dumb and doesn't impact the scores as much as people on the site think it does.
Why is Beatles, Dylan and Cash like the dad music holy trinity? Same for mine and we're Scottish.
@@squatchjosh1131 Interesting. My Dad doesn’t care for the Beatles or Bob Dylan. However I absolutely love them and sort of have a love/hate relationship with Bob Dylan.
Agreed
Your drones are the reason Olivia Rodrigo - Sour went from a 2.84 before your review to a 2.87 after your review. You clearly have a tremendous influence on those charts melon!
The only "fantano effect" I have ever seen is that you just give exposure to a band/artist that may have otherwise been ignored (Otoboke beaver comes to mind). The ratings usually follow their typical downwards trend as more people rate them, with or without your review.
That’s the real Fantano effect (giving under listened artists/bands more listeners). For example, his only positive review for J. Cole’s album still doesn’t lift the album on rym about 2.9
He can’t keep getting away with this.
"At the end of the day, I'm just a resource for you to use, however you would like to"
-Fantano, 2021
RYM is a great resource for finding interesting releases, but a shit resource for finding opinions that exist outside of the music snob gestapo.
The "community" on there is fucking unbearable, more concerned with flaunting their music knowledge/intellect and doing epic dunks on albums they dislike than actually discussing music in a constructive way. It's barely less of a cesspool than /mu/ at this point.
But I agree, if you stay away from the forums/reviews/comment boxes and just stick with the charts and user lists, it's probably the most useful music discovery tool on the internet.
large majority white music snob gestapo may I add
Is it the kind of people that when asked what music they like they say, "I've been listening to [insert widely acclaimed band here] lately. I doubt you've heard of them though"?
@@madid5398 yea, except its a band nobody has heard of outside of rym
The RYM community is unbearably pretentious. I love reading some of those reviews.
Shit, They’re onto us!
Fantano is such a genuine guy, I don't understand how he has attracted such a cancerous fanbase.
alot of these comments from the fan base seem fine
@@unspecifiied3627 How long have you been reading 'em?
@@lateksipumppu i mean i tend to often scroll down in the videos and the comments are usually just normal comments about the video LOL
@@unspecifiied3627 Huh. I mean the top comments are usually sarcastic or passive-aggressive with the main purpose to annoy Anthony.
@@unspecifiied3627 dont defend them, they are cyber bullies
Thank you for being a resource of a way to keep up to date on new music.
I have found a routine that works for me of a good way to find a bunch of new records every week in the genres I am interested in better than just watching you or other reviewers, reading Pitchfork etc now. But I appreciate you for helping me back around 2013-2015 or so when I wasn't as savy with using my resources to find new stuff.
People: "Fantano fans will regurgitate whatever Melon says, what a bunch of drones"
Me: *watches Fantano reviews and keeps listening the same shit i've been listening to these last 5 years*
I think I've heard of maybe 1 percent of people Fantano talks about. If that.
That's very based of you
Do I usually go straight to the description for the weekly track roundups and click on links to songs by bands I already know? Yes
Do I feel bad about it? Only when it was a new Modest Mouse song.
Me. Haha. Wow. I mean yep. I respect his opinion and love his videos and hot takes especially but I haven't listened to new stuff because of him in like forever.
I just started really listening to music I guess, and I don't really use rate your music, mainly cause I have Spotify accessible, and I just come here to find stuff I like from the stuff you provide. For me, the fact that you give these reviews is awsome for me not because I can be "right" when arguing against someone who also likes music, they just let me find things I may have an interest in, and I think what you've done for me at least has been really cool, awsome, and sweet!
This is the video that activates his army known as the drones
Very bold of Anthony to share his robot world domination plan even at the risk of being stopped.
Fantano: “RYM top 40 chart is just rolling stone”
King Crimson: “am I a joke to you?”
fantano fans/drones: I AGREE W/ EVERYTHING HE SAYS & I WILL ONLY LISTEN TO WHAT HE LISTENS TO
fantano enjoyers: i respect his opinion no matter if it coronates with mine or not and form my own opinions on these projects
"no matter if it coronates with mine"
🤴 I see
@@Kaz999998 lol i think i mean coordinate? ima keep it unfixed for the memes tho
@@msmx9088 Don't you mean correlate lmao
Real Fantano enjoyers appreciate the broken grammar too
@@jakebarnum3830 ohhhhh yea
you know you've made it as an artist when 'tano gives your album a 6
Fantano's channel introduced me to JID. My Hip Hop listening experience was pretty barebones prior to my watching of this channel, but my taste in music in general has gotten so much more varied since I started watching these videos. I don't even focus all that much on the score of the reviews, I just like the way he describes the listening experience of albums and songs with so much detail. It makes it easier to figure out whether or not I'll like an album by an artist I've never heard of if I can get some kind of description of what it's like without having to listen to the entire album. I don't have the patience for that sort of thing ngl
been waiting on this from your twitter announcement
Thanks for this video now I can finally know how to think about thinking for myself
People get way too damn obsessed with a score, especially given RYM has its fair share of meme and troll accounts that'll throw around numbers with completely different or arbitrary metrics.
People should not need a goddamn number or scorecard to validate their opinions on art. I really think RYM users take themselves or the site to seriously sometimes
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I mostly use RYM to find music and keep track of what I listen to. I give some credence to the scores on there, but ultimately what matters to me is how I personally feel about the albums I hear. I don’t really care that Wilco’s A Ghost is Born has a high rating or that Meat is Murder is rated way lower than the other Smiths albums, because my opinions will not always line up others’, and that’s okay. I’ve discovered so much great music through RYM, and that’s what I care about the most.
This is my main issue with it. I'd probably love RYM if you took the R out and made it just a place to casually discuss Your Music and create artist/album bio pages. I'm also just turned off by how many great albums get 3.x or lower - I know not every album is a masterpiece but it doesn't mean you have to rate everything else way lower as a result.
@@Zooropa_Station uh, well i guess not everyone agrees with you that those albums are "great"?? lol
Come on, you know what I mean. I'm not even talking about albums I listen to. There are plenty of albums that I know are praised by the majority of a fanbase or fans of a genre in general and then it has some shitty score on rym that doesn't reflect reality. "lol"
I think if you have any influence on what I think about an album, it's because you brought to my attention something I hadn't noticed or thought about. I disagree with you all the time lol
Yeah same here. Or ends up introducing me to albums or artists. 100 gecs, galen tipton, Slauson Malone
Lmao sameeee i love fantano but half of his reviews I disagree passionately against. Still love him and will watch full way thru
@@Nick-vs2nb to be fair, just because someone like Radiohead, Parquet Courts, Danny Brown, and the other artists you mentioned does not necessarily mean they even know of Fantano at all. I’d been listening to Radiohead for years before finding this channel for example. Some people might just gravitate towards those types of music more.
My fave songs off albums are usually on his Least Fave list in his reviews. And I just have gotten to terms with it.
Thanks for the shout out to the site and supporting the funding drive. Hopefully the Fantano affect can help kick in the needed funding for the site.
sometimes i think for myself and then i see some random reaction video on youtube disagreeing with me and it makes me feel insecure and then i go to you, wonderful melon, for some of that external validation. it's nice.
I credit your reviews with getting me into three artists, and only one of those was particularly positive. Those reviews were Comedown Machine by the Strokes (5/10); Are We There by Sharon Van Etten (6/10); and Infest The Rat's Nest by King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard (8/10). I think that Comedown Machine review was the first thing I saw of yours. You really did not like that album, but you still took the time to go over its strong points and some of that sounded like my sort of thing. I checked it out, I liked it, and I now own every Strokes album. The SVE review was barely more positive (your video description calls it "patience-testing") but you still praised some aspects and also made comparisons to The National, IIRC suggesting that it might be up the alley of fans of that band. Well, I was (and am) a National fan, so I checked that out too. I liked it, and now own every SVE album. The only really positive review was the KGATLW one, which is the one time I can say that I wound up a fan of something because you were enthusiastic about it. Once again, I now own everything that band has released, so if your plan was to get your viewers to invest in artists' entire back catalogue, it's a huge success. As far as turning us into mindless drones whose plasticine brains conform to your every opinion, though, I'm afraid you're going to have to step up the brainwashing.
I got pulled over for speeding antnee. I told them I had to rush home to watch the new theneedledrop video. They laughed in my face and said just for that their giving me the maximum penalty. Thanks melon
This was a great album review, might even be one of my new all-time favorites for you. Thanks Anthony for all you do and your hard work.
Found it hilarious and kinda badass how he tongue in cheek gave some ideas for the fantano clones while addressing the (mostly non) issue. Yr good stuff fantano i think you've grown a ton as a reviewer and personality in the 10+ years youve been on my radar
watching a fantano video is like hearing a friends opinion on music except its well informed and whether you agree or not is part of the enjoyment
After starting to use RYM I became obsessed with ratings and listening to as much as possible. I quickly became self aware of that habit and have done my best to slow down. It's hard not to judge something after seeing the average score or the rating that Fantano gives but I think people need to start focusing on music for themselves and stop caring whether others like it or not.
Melon is a person as much as each of us and personality is a wonderous thing. While he holds value to his opinions because of his years of experience in music, that will never be a reason to incapacitate your own experience. We all start somewhere.
Anthony, I'll never be your mindless servant.
I only like what rateyourmusic tells me
This is the first time I’ve seen the comment section have something worthwhile to read about in awhile.
imagine caring so much about some numbers going down that you write a seething novella about the perceived cause
i didnt even know rateyourmusic was a thing until this video. Time to find me some new tunes!
You're 100% right Anthony, I can't STAND the Fantano drones. Once again I completely agree with you.
Thank you Fantano, I agree with everything you’ve said in this video. Very insightful. Excited to watch it
Anthony I was having a bad day and your videos soothe my soul thank you
bro i hate some of your reviews but i still got mad love and respect for what you do and some of the stuff you put up with
Fun chill RYM segment.
Thanks for everything Anthony!!!!!
Although I stay off RYM most of the time, I'd be happy to be a drone for you!
RateYourMusic helped me discover so many artists and albums and I'm really thankful for that. I think the community can be very obnoxious and snobbish, but that's just how every music corner of the internet's like, you'll always have your elitists and Radiohead stans
Already subbed to RYM, I have discovered many albums and artists I've never heard of through them
If I was ever having a bad trip, I would 100% trust you to comfort me.
I only watch you because you clearly just know what you're talking about. You give bands like Nails honest reviews. I disagree with you tons but who cares. My favorite band is Weekend Nachos and 99% of people will tell me to turn that shit off yet it's the best thing i've ever heard haha.
Fantano shits on turnstile as part of his career and theyre one of my absolute favs, absolutely do not care
I recommend Iron Lung, they're raw asf
It really does all comes down to exposure. I remember when you reviewed Portal's ION and you gave it a 9/10, but on RYM it's the lowest rated of their main albums (despite being generally considered by fans of the band to be one of their best if not their best) as well as having the most ratings. All that's happening are people are getting exposed to material that is not their cup of tea, or a very extreme, high-density or otherwise left-field style of a genre/sub-genre they may not be familiar with.
I don’t ever see fantano drones on UA-cam. But I see a TON them in twitch chat.
I love how this was recommended to me after the new 10
So there we have it. We CAN think for ourselves, because melon said so
I can finally use a website! Thanks for the review Fantano!
I use the needle drop to find new music and it’s helped me find stuff I would never have thought I’d be into, even albums you disagree with lol
Melon sure does love this picture of himself. So do I
Yo Rate Your Music is music Letterboxd!!!! I've been waiting for this!!!
I've been using rym since 2018-ish and I have to give it all the praise it deserves because I never would have found all these great albums without the website. Of course it's not perfect, the community can be quite snooty at times. But it's still a great tool for finding new music.
They’re onto us
Tangent here but you should check out *Arooj Aftab’s* latest record, *Vulture Prince.*
Reddit put it in my radar and now I’m hooked on seeking similar complex minimalist records.
"You're god damn right"
Yes! We are all individuals!
Thanks for supporting RYM!
So True King! We really can't.
….finish each others sentences! hahahahaaha anthony totally agree with you😂
Thank you for reviewwing Sematary !!!
yeah i don’t always agree with your opinions but you do shine a light on a lot of music i wouldn’t have found otherwise and i thank you for that!
One year later and I really agree with Fantano here. He has sutch great takes.
4:01 i did as i was told master i did i did
I've been doing this fantano thing all wrong. I watch his reviews for new music ideas and to just hear his opinion on albums I like, whether he likes it or not doesn't take or grow my love of something i enjoy.
"Fantano's viewers just eat up any opinion he gives them."
People that watched his review of The Ooze: 👀
I don't know what to think about this . . .
Im honestly here just for random videos like this and lets argue rather than reviews, i for the most part decide how much i like music i listen to
I'm not basing my music taste in your opinnions. I'm more of using your taste to discover new music, and so far I'm loving everything you rated high regarding hiphop.
I subscribed to Anthony Fantano and now I can’t make an opinion on music without you
"The most Pitchfork-approved albums of the 90s and 00s" damn that stung
I agree with you about a quarter of the time. Little nuances of albums that you rate and I listen to land differently for me than they do for you. Sometimes leading your low scores to being high for me and vice versa. I'd wager that I'm average in how often I agree with one of your reviews near 100%
Fantano: My Fans Can't Think for Themselves.
5,5 fantano fans: we like
*Sees the title* - *is proud the reason i subscribed is bc i completely dissagreed to a review yet loved how you defended what you thought*
i found your channel after watching your review of DoYaThing by Gorillaz and i just felt like you shared a similar taste in music to me so if anything, the music you review is already in my taste anyway, i just enjoy watching your reviews and hearing your opinions
drone music? yes please
Anthony, my house can't take many more blasts. Please call off your drones. I promise I'll buy a Ridge Wallet.
Fantano please stop drone striking my home…
The internet is such a cesspool sometimes. I use your videos as one of many resources to discover music I wouldn't otherwise be exposed to. Actual score is duly noted and generally forgotten as I make my own mind up. Sometimes I watch them to get a different perspective on something I either loved, or didn't quite resonate with. That's what criticism is for.
And this is why I use Album Of The Year
Oh no, he’s becoming self-aware
now that you said it, i agree
keep up the good work dude
how dare you even begin to propose that i can think for myself
“I dont want to influence the scores here” *proceeds to directly influence at 3:55
Think for yourself. Question authority.
Nobody ever gives Albumoftheyear enough love.
RYM recommendation algorithm is the most wildly accurate ish I've ever seen. Honestly, some streaming platform should pay for rights for it
I'M A DRONE RETURNING TO MY QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN