In the Age of AI Art, What Can Originality Look Like? | Eileen Isagon Skyers | TED

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  • @aceyage
    @aceyage Рік тому +122

    It’s not that AI is a threat to human creativity. Humans will want to express themselves regardless. The danger is the extreme centralization of creative capital to a few Silicon Valley companies that create these models by using existing artwork from starving and non-starving artists. I rarely make comments about appearance, but this is the most well-spoken/dressed and beautiful woman that I have heard/seen in long time.

  • @quboqut
    @quboqut 7 місяців тому +14

    one thing I feel tech people talking about ai and artistic creativity is they keep forgetting about one thing. Artistic creativity is not about improvement is about creation. The difference between art and technology is that unlike technology there is no improvement seeking. When you look at the technology from 1960 you can tell clearly that the technology we have now is much better, but you couldn't say that all the movies or fashion collections from the current times are better than those made in the 20th century because that is not how art works,that is how Technology works. Another thing being dismissed is that art and cretivity is not only about having a good idea, but taking control over it and going in a creative journey in the process of making it. You can ask ai to imagine a black flower with purple spikes but how you imagine it (the size, the shades of purple, the position of the flower...) that's what makes art enjoyable for the creator. I believe art will nit die as long as there is a public for it because quite frankly art is not necessary for survival so the only reason we have artists is beacause we want to be artist and people want to have artists. Art is a beautiful way to express our particukar humanity.

  • @readkavi
    @readkavi Рік тому +39

    The girl googled bunch of artists and gave a presentation on "AI is the future", that too without any insightful inferences. I come back to Ted after years and this I get to begin with.

  • @noompsieOG
    @noompsieOG Рік тому +16

    I've done art that AI can't do having ai around has made me break my own boundaries artistically and creating that which could never be conceived by ai Is why I knkw art is not dead

    • @Schoohness
      @Schoohness Рік тому +1

      Just sitting down, thinking and using your creative brain will help you break artistic boundaries too! 🪬🖌💎

    • @noompsieOG
      @noompsieOG Рік тому +3

      @Schoohness actually i find that "not" thinking is more beneficial to the creative act. The wisdom in your comment is that a big boundary for many people is just doing the work to begin with. Whereas I'm referring to trying new combinations. I see it as 3 items.
      1. A medium (paint, chalk , dirt , sparkles , tattoo ink etc)
      2. An applicator of the medium (brush, tattoo gun, spray bottle , bare hands , cloth or sponge, a toothbrush etc)
      3. A canvas (an actual canvas , glass windows, another human, an old brick wall , your exs car etc)
      I've found by being inventive and creative making combinations of these things has been very fun lol

  • @yamyefet4250
    @yamyefet4250 Рік тому +13

    Simple response: "originality" can look like effort ..

    • @ThaEzzy
      @ThaEzzy 11 місяців тому +4

      I found your response more thoughtprovoking than the whole video.

  • @cloudsofsunset7323
    @cloudsofsunset7323 Рік тому +33

    this video literally says nothing to me... I expected much more

  • @hyunie0_0
    @hyunie0_0 Рік тому +27

    Just the thought of AI taking over all the human jobs is insane..

    • @Schoohness
      @Schoohness Рік тому +3

      Because it will still cost money and precious mineral resources to maintain, or because it is laughably unrealistic as far as functionality? 😂😅cheers🎉

    • @Iceman16Cold
      @Iceman16Cold 11 місяців тому

      Thank God i am already a miner 😂

  • @thecolibris
    @thecolibris Рік тому +12

    It has so much potential and exciting things to give in visual art. I think its more scary in case of music and reproducing human voices.

  • @tonyasmith9780
    @tonyasmith9780 Рік тому +9

    AI can be incredible but nothing is like something created by human hands.

    • @SasuKrow
      @SasuKrow Рік тому +1

      And that's why I like it, some of it is otherwordly and incomparable to what you'd expect to see from a human.

  • @millionersoon2030
    @millionersoon2030 Рік тому +9

    Can Ai work without internet service🧐

  • @bwzarchive708
    @bwzarchive708 Рік тому +1

    The weird surreal mush AI makes is so inspiring, it makes me almost interested in where that weird mush initially came from...

  • @cheersmodreams691
    @cheersmodreams691 Рік тому +15

    AI creates images not art. Our inability to define art leads us into this silly conversation. Nevertheless the art industry will do it's thing and put together marvelous exhibits that we can gather around, sip wine and prance around in various styles of blackware.

    • @Adeniyidairo
      @Adeniyidairo Рік тому +4

      Ai creates images not art. I just wrote that in my comment then scrolled down and saw your comment. Glad to see I am not alone.
      I also wrote something like If you use Ai to create images you are not an artist you're a user.

    • @tiberiousjc3739
      @tiberiousjc3739 9 місяців тому

      Couldn't agree more. My biggest issue with ai companies is they refuse to pay artists money owed to them for the art that was taken without permission or compensation. As far as art. If it isn't done by human hand i.e. pen, pencil, paint, sculpting ect. And if it is a mass produced product. Not a one of if you will. Then it's not art. Line drawn. Art defined. If one mass produces images then they are is what's called a commercial image producer. Not a classic artist. And a commercial image producer should be compensated for their original works, that would be images made on software not enhanced by ai. Before others can profit off their images, including but not limited to ai software users or ai companies / corporations. There are some really good artists that use Wacom tablets and other hand held devices to draw amazing things without the ai crutch. Pure skill and years of dedication to hone their skills, proficient on computer as well as classic medium. And some do mass produced images and should be paid for their original works. Mass produced images are a dime a dozen. An original piece could be worth much more, and rightfully so.

  • @rw9207
    @rw9207 Рік тому +14

    She says, " this 'piece' is produced by, (inset human name here).. But, my questions are; how old are these "artists".. how many years did they study perfecting "their art".. their medium? Because I'm an artist, who's been playing around with Midjourny since the Beta and I know that "pieces" of equal quality can be prompted by an 11yr old wannabe accountant, in under 2 days of practice... The reality is this isn't produced by a, (insert human name here)... It's produced by an AI algorithm... She talks about curation of hundreds of images, a repetitive task greatly suited to... you guest it, AI!
    ... Stop pretending that 'Human digital art' isn't in intensive care, right now. The first to fall in two decade obliteration of human worth.

  • @GauravKumar786.
    @GauravKumar786. Рік тому +2

    ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE NEVER REPLACE YOUR JOB BUT THE PERSON HE KNOW HOW TO USE A.I. THAT CAN DEFINITELY TAKE AWAY YOUR JOB.

  • @invox9490
    @invox9490 Рік тому +6

    "Art" by definition is a HUMAN expression.
    What AI does is just combining numbers, it is WE that misslabel it as such.

  • @ernestmendez5487
    @ernestmendez5487 Місяць тому +1

    Anyone who thinks that AI can replace artists doesn't actually understand what true art is. Sure, if you're a mediocre worm of a human who views art as a moneygrubbing tool, sure, you're going to be replaced. But until a machine understands how to have fun and how to love while being useful that road is a dead end bereft of imagination.

  • @Afaloz
    @Afaloz 11 місяців тому

    AI should be assimilated to advance humanity rather than fearing it, there is enough fear. Show love and be love, this is art ❤

    • @tiberiousjc3739
      @tiberiousjc3739 9 місяців тому

      Pay all the people that the ai companies stole from and I will give it a try. Not against ai. I am against theft without compensation.

  • @paulhiggins5165
    @paulhiggins5165 Рік тому +26

    There is nothing profound or meaningful happening inside these AI's. The creation of Art requires above all intent and a desire to communicate- no such intent or desire exists in these machines- input the same prompt with the same seed value and they will give you more or less the same image over and over and over again- they will never grow weary of the repetition, never yearn to make something new- they are dead things and anyone who imagines that these dead things can be harnessed as engines of artistic inspiration are deluding themselves.
    The best that can be said of them is that they might function as very elaborate rorschach blots in onto which one may project one's own ideas- but the notion that they represent some new frontier in the realms of artistic expression is laughable. Kaleidoscopes make pretty patterns too- they do not, however, make Art.

    • @rcnhsuailsnyfiue2
      @rcnhsuailsnyfiue2 Рік тому

      There is nothing profound or meaningful happening inside a camera, either - it is simply measuring photons. But just as photography can be used as a tool for creative expression, so too can AI.
      AI art generation is just as meaningful and profound as the advent of the camera. Blanket dismissals of any intrinsic value are short-sighted, and fail to see the bigger picture.

    • @paulhiggins5165
      @paulhiggins5165 Рік тому +2

      I think we are in agreement here- there is nothing profound or meaningful happening either inside an AI or inside a Camera- the creative intent of the human is all that matters. However the premise of the Ted talk is that AI itself is capable of actual creative intent- which is like saying the camera has it's own ideas as to what makes a great photograph- a claim I think we can both agree is nonsense. AI's cannot create anything meaningful because meaning can only arise in the context of a desire to communicate- and AI's have no such desires.
      To ask what an AI meant by the output it produced would be like asking what your toaster meant by that specific shade of brown it created on the surface of your breakfast- both these phenomena are the outcome of mindless processess devoid of any attempt or desire to communicate anything.

    • @rcnhsuailsnyfiue2
      @rcnhsuailsnyfiue2 Рік тому

      @@paulhiggins5165 agreed 👍 thanks for clarifying. My only followup would be to add that I’m excited by the new creative possibilities these tools are presenting to artists, allowing them to rapidly explore new ideas which might not previously have been possible.

  • @brenogonzortea
    @brenogonzortea 7 днів тому

    Love the vision Ai boost creativity and was made by us (humans)

  • @rudyponzio5871
    @rudyponzio5871 Рік тому +1

    For me... I put it this way. A.I. And Robots aren't inherently bad. And won't be our equal.
    How is it. ( That I can for the first time in my life ever doing it. ) I can Tell my desired texture of wide flat pasta noodles in a boiling pot of water.
    From scooping one up and dangling it from a wooden handle stainless steel stirring utensil, over 15 inches long ? And feel the exact desired texture from holding the wooden handle, because I chewed pasta before? And where did my desired texture come from? You get the full fledged connection to this video right?

  • @Kingtrollface259
    @Kingtrollface259 Рік тому +2

    been thinking of creating my own paintings then selling them on ebay ,i know a bit about it all ,but my paintings will be nothimg but honest ,thats important

  • @sophiaisabelle027
    @sophiaisabelle027 Рік тому +1

    Seems like with AI technology being incorporated, there's far less room for originality to prosper. You're basically reliant on a tool that helps you achieve tasks far quicker than you would've ever anticipated.

    • @xensonar9652
      @xensonar9652 Рік тому +3

      It also makes talent irrelevant. An AI could create a million designs in the time it takes an artist to painstakingly produce a piece of their own.

  • @sparis1970
    @sparis1970 Рік тому +10

    TED IS DEAD
    It used to be a source of discoveries, inspiration, thoughts provoking and learning. This talk shows it’s content can now belong on Tik Tok
    Sad 😢

  • @gggggggggghhhhoost
    @gggggggggghhhhoost Рік тому +32

    Nice talk with cherry picking only good the stuff of AI art, While we know most of its use was to steal non AI artists work and unethically resell their carbon copy without consent. I wonder what would these AI artists do if they had no more real artist product to feed their enigma machine that they dont even own.
    Note that i'm not against machine learning models but their users are very toxic (positivity) and unethical

    • @reyfairburn5023
      @reyfairburn5023 Рік тому +12

      Yeah this talk really seems to label anyone rightfully criticizing ai art as "pessimists". We need to create laws protecting human artists from having their work used to feed these AI programs without their consent.

    • @JorjEade
      @JorjEade Рік тому +2

      "unethically resell their carbon copy without consent"
      What..? No one's using these models to recreate exact copies of the original training data

    • @gondoravalon7540
      @gondoravalon7540 Рік тому

      > *carbon copy*
      The only way to do this barring overtraining (which is undesirable to have) is image to image with low diffusion rate, which is a problem not with text to image generation, but ... with how people use image to image!

  • @romanumeralz
    @romanumeralz Рік тому +5

    Deception always comes gift wrapped. 🎁
    DO NOT BE DECEIVED 👹

  • @АнатолійЛепешко-ы6у

    Thank you!!!

  • @ironic_ghost62
    @ironic_ghost62 Рік тому

    It really makes you wonder, if Ai can do almost all our jobs, what will we be doing in the future? I hope that we may one day find the solution to this answer.

  • @str4wbry_e
    @str4wbry_e Рік тому

    entered because of the title, stayed because her outfit ateee!! :p

  • @realityinfocus6228
    @realityinfocus6228 Рік тому +3

    Man, this is a super video!! My main takeaway is that artists like Claire Silver ain't just sticking to old-school methods. She's out here mixing things up with AI, 'collaborative AI artist'. It's like she's using the AI to make a connection between old-timey art and the crazy digital stuff of today. Real genius stuff, man.

  • @andreahodson7031
    @andreahodson7031 Рік тому +1

    anything not done by chatgpt, which is plageurism isnt it?

  • @Billchu13
    @Billchu13 Рік тому

    Do Neural networks use thousands or millions of images at a time?

    • @sownheard
      @sownheard Рік тому +4

      No 😂 that is not how it works.
      The model is 2GB.
      You can't compress a billion images into 2GB

  • @InspiringKeynoteSpeakers
    @InspiringKeynoteSpeakers Рік тому +1

    AI art is fascinating! It's a blend of human creativity and technology, resulting in new and unique artworks. This makes us rethink what creativity means and how technology is shaping art. And we should talk about both the positive and negative sides of this new art form

  • @sullivankristian1
    @sullivankristian1 Рік тому +9

    The thought that AI art, or all forms of AI ‘creation’, is mere auto-referencing on a gigantic scale immediately, for me anyway, de-masks the whole thing. It suddenly took a massive leap backwards from a position of interest and intrigue for me to being almost entirely irrelevant. Art, design and creativity at their noble best have always been about the ability to pluck something out of nowhere, out of thin air that existed only in the mind of the brilliant and visionary. This is more like a child rumaging around in the toy chest of forgotten gifts and getting a cheap, momentary thrill from a refound item that was briefly desirable or popular. Art is never about an archive. It is always about what is next and what is unexpected. AI has a glorious future. Not in this area of human achievement.

  • @shanghaitatoo
    @shanghaitatoo Рік тому +1

    Artificially generated images, not art.

  • @basmala647
    @basmala647 Рік тому

    Can the Arabic translation be activated? ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @justinleemiller
    @justinleemiller 7 місяців тому

    AI will take over both art and photography. Yes, technically people still produce and buy paintings but they only look at them in museums on vacation in between gorging themselves on thousands of images a day on their screens.

  • @adamkevill6557
    @adamkevill6557 Рік тому

    Still have trouble making hands, well, for now.

  • @petetemosh6331
    @petetemosh6331 9 місяців тому +1

    Learn how to take a pencil it's a good start

  • @brucelee7782
    @brucelee7782 11 місяців тому

    DAMN this woman is beautiful

  • @normapadro420
    @normapadro420 11 місяців тому

    Hello. I use these tools to create art work. I use it to edit my photographs, art work as well. These tools are very helpful for creativity. I also use these tools to compose music as well. There are so many possibilities. There are no limits to creating new things.

    • @normapadro420
      @normapadro420 9 місяців тому

      @@tiberiousjc3739 Most of the artists back then copied other artists. Which means that art was never original. Do you watch videos on artist, and how they copy one another. Nothing is original. Begin by watching everything is a remix. From art, to music, writers.

    • @normapadro420
      @normapadro420 9 місяців тому

      @@tiberiousjc3739 If you're trying to insult anyone with your opinions I don't blame you for it. I always study any field I want to learn more about. I get the answers I need then I begin my journey. I don't debate anyone, because the answers I got were from professors of universities, and art critics from around the world. Most of their answers are updated, and remain the same.

  • @geekyourlikeslulu
    @geekyourlikeslulu 11 місяців тому +1

    At first, I was just happy seeing super brilliant tool to make arts like a magic, then I realized it's basically a theft.. so confused

  • @Raulikien
    @Raulikien Рік тому +1

    Answer: you let the AI do it better than you. It has access to the full range of the near infinite possibilities of pixel arrangements and can combine any number of subspaces in it, you just guide it through it with the prompts.

  • @hangshinguite
    @hangshinguite Рік тому

    Human originality would be termed "humanorganic" in case AI have such a huge influence on originality in the future. What do you think ?

    • @samsonward2247
      @samsonward2247 Рік тому

      I think that's a good choice 😢 *warning psychosocial networks disrupted, this is not a unique thought*

  • @TheSamiramiss
    @TheSamiramiss 2 місяці тому

    Creativity needs thinking process. A click on an AI tool won't necessarily create quality art!

  • @Adeniyidairo
    @Adeniyidairo Рік тому +6

    Collaborative Ai artist yet another title you give yourself to help you sleep at night and justify the use of a technology that makes creating art so much easier for you. OK, you trained Ai on thousands of your own images then call on that Ai to produce new images based on the images you fed it. It is still the Ai generating the images based on your work but without your input how come they don't get that.

    • @gondoravalon7540
      @gondoravalon7540 Рік тому

      > *to help you sleep at night*
      Or maybe it's just another name that sounded neat or sounded like it was more concise (IDK about the last).
      > * It is still the Ai generating the images based on your work*
      And? How is it a problem to use AI trained on your own work, especially if just as part of the process?

    • @Adeniyidairo
      @Adeniyidairo Рік тому +1

      @@gondoravalon7540 OK 1. Anyone can make up a title descriptive or not, try typing it into a job search engine and see what you get.
      2. I never said training Ai on your own artwork was a problem, what I'm saying is that once you have trained the Ai it's no longer you creating the art to me they are just images. The process is now determined by the Ai without the users input, so in my opinion and please remember it's my opinion, the Ai is creating images not art and you are no longer an artist you're a user.

  • @barabeke
    @barabeke Рік тому +7

    This talk could have been actual few years ago. I am creating more mind blowing art than what you see in this video, today.

    • @AyushSingh-be2nm
      @AyushSingh-be2nm Рік тому +6

      How do you know that they are Mind Blowing?

    • @Schoohness
      @Schoohness Рік тому +1

      Exactly. This is old news and people are already reverting to a time pre-internet.

    • @l01230123
      @l01230123 Рік тому +1

      Not only does this talk refer to technology created within the last 2 years, the digital art sanctuary thing you're doing was being done by people like ViHart (especially using VR) to explore virtual spaces (museums, 5 dimensional space, etc...) several years ago. Way to put your foot in your mouth.
      "More mind blowing?" I get that taste in art is subjective, for example I think your art clashing with the environment looks bad, but I don't think acting pompous is how you get people to appreciate yours. (Also, nice NFTs bud) 😅
      (Also, don't worry, I didn't give this guy a view: the timeline thumbnails was all I needed 😘)

    • @barabeke
      @barabeke Рік тому

      @@AyushSingh-be2nm for their artistic value (I have thousands of unpublished works) but in some cases also for their photo realism (which can be judged not just from my work but also from some recent videos that can be found on UA-cam)

  • @markus332
    @markus332 Рік тому +5

    Yawn....

  • @All-mp9nd
    @All-mp9nd Рік тому

    very

  • @ayanshah8073
    @ayanshah8073 Рік тому

    Second comments😮

  • @MisterTomcat
    @MisterTomcat 5 місяців тому

    What the f uck was that?!

  • @ganeshamanpun1070
    @ganeshamanpun1070 Рік тому

    First viewer😮

  • @samuelzev4076
    @samuelzev4076 Рік тому +1

    While this talk of AI is taking place Skynet has entered the chat. Have fun before the real AI revolution begins

  • @arpitkumar3116
    @arpitkumar3116 Рік тому +2

    First comment

    • @noompsieOG
      @noompsieOG Рік тому

      Yet pointless and nothing to do with the video

  • @jerijayz3929
    @jerijayz3929 Рік тому

    Welcome to the new age. Approved

  • @bellaalmaraz1569
    @bellaalmaraz1569 Рік тому

    I’m married to the pineapple under the sea

  • @themanwnoname3454
    @themanwnoname3454 Рік тому +1

    2023((G)) “Respect and dignity.” Furthermore: