AI Art: How artists are using and confronting machine learning | HOW TO SEE LIKE A MACHINE

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  • Опубліковано 3 тра 2024
  • For the latest episode of our How to See series, we spoke with three artists-Kate Crawford, Trevor Paglen, and Refik Anadol-who engage with the ways that AI and machine learning algorithms are demanding new approaches to artmaking.
    “I think we are at a crucial inflection point right now,” says Kate Crawford, professor, artist, and author of "Atlas of AI." “I've been calling it the generative turn. It's a moment where what we previously understood as how everything from illustration to film directing to publishing works is all
    about to change very rapidly.”
    Trevor Paglen has been mining data sets that are used to train the machine learning systems that surveil our daily lives. He investigates the dangerous oversimplification inherent to these processes and the ethics of the intentions behind them. “Artists, what we bring to the party is thousands…of years of thinking about what the hell an image is,” he says. “The kind of engineering computer science tradition does not have that. This is a place where artists are bringing voices to the conversation that I think are quite urgent.”
    It’s in that spirit that Refik Anadol sees AI as a tool available to artists. His interest is in machine learning algorithms that aren’t strictly monitored by humans. For Unsupervised, he asked how a machine, if it had only MoMA’s collection data for knowledge, would parse the history of modern art on its own. And, as an autodidact, what kind of art would it create?
    These three prescient thinkers are joined by curators Paola Antonelli and Michelle Kuo, who give historical context to the existential questions at play in this emerging landscape and share insights
    into where art might bring AI next.
    00:00 How artists respond to recent breakthroughs in AI
    02:11 When AI becomes the the artist
    05:26 How we train AI: ethical implications
    08:51 The conceptual limits of machine learning systems
    10:09 Art history lesson (the fear of technology is not new)
    12:18 Where can artists take AI next?
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    The comments and opinions expressed in this video are those of the speaker alone, and do not represent the views of The Museum of Modern Art, its personnel, or any artist.
    #aiart #artificialintelligence #machinelearning #ai #art #museumofmodernart #moma #museum
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 368

  • @andrew_pruitt
    @andrew_pruitt Рік тому +246

    I feel like AI has the potential to make mundane tasks simple, but it could also make us terribly lazy.
    Also, as an artist, I am bothered by the fact that AI completely dismisses an artist's job as simply a means to an end. The true beauty of art is in the process of creation, not in the resulting image. You gain most of your creative skills in the flow state while working. The final image is just a visual representation of this process. Anyone who is deeply passionate about their craft understands this feeling. AI is stripping away the artist from the process.
    If you don't feel "talented" enough to create your vision and need to use AI to do so, then put the hours in and work for it. I promise you it's worth it because doing the work is humbling and it changes you as a person.

  • @guipedr
    @guipedr Рік тому +143

    "It's always about capitalism, not the technology, right?" Perfect statement and translates all the worry with this tech and all the previous ones that ended up been turned for damage to whole societies, democracies and etc.

    • @zzzmzzz4466
      @zzzmzzz4466 Рік тому +7

      EXACTLY WHAT IVE BEEN THINKING. sooner or later machine will be able to do most of the work. thats why we need a different social system to deal with it.

    • @alesuberalles
      @alesuberalles Рік тому +4

      I'm not even very surprised that this comment received such limited attention compared to pathetic complacency or dumb optimism

    • @alesuberalles
      @alesuberalles Рік тому +5

      @@zzzmzzz4466 You may need it, but most don't. Liberal capitalism has succeeded in doing what no dictatorship has ever been able to do - it has convinced the majority that the system is fair (or needs little change to be fair).

    • @WebSodre
      @WebSodre Рік тому +1

      Man I’m printing this and probably making a tattoo

  • @nsuarez
    @nsuarez Рік тому +123

    The cool thing about art is that you know a human made it and you are mesmerized at the skill and thought it must have taken to make it. When you know it was a machine that made it, it loses its magic. Most people think like me but a few are promoting this technology for profit without any regard to ethics and love for the art process itself.

  • @stevekoch4
    @stevekoch4 Рік тому +8

    So many aspects to this great conversation! One thing to keep in mind....if the electricity stops flowing, Ai ceases to exist. And humans have endured no matter what tools we have been presented with. If we view life from a Creationist perspective, we can rest assured that our individual, unique, souls/spirits are what make us a) human, b) be able to live without fear from threat of ANY machine. Machines are tools. Pencils evolved from charcoal sticks. Typewriters evolved from hand writing. Printing presses, computers, colored paints, hammers, shovels,...every tool evolved and has been created to help and better humanity. Even weapons help protect us. What we should fear is not keeping in touch with our Creator. We stop listening and start doing our own thing, then we are in trouble. But, if the lights go out, we can always draw and paint by hand. As we have done for centuries!

    • @lexa7250
      @lexa7250 Рік тому +1

      and if you lose your hands you be able to create anything, what's your point

  • @dianabolanos9766
    @dianabolanos9766 Рік тому +77

    I don´t think humans will ever stop making art, even if Ai is better then us doing it. Ai was able to defeat humans in chess a long time ago, that didn´t stop us from continuing to play it. Even though photography was able to out do painters, and many looked away from realism to more abstract ways of expression, that still didn´t stop people from painting and drawing in figurative ways, hell many of us are still exploring how figurative images can do and express. New technology has always been scary, I´m scared too, there´re a lot of political and economic implications to Ai that we can´t understand and control yet. But at least for now we can look at Ai as a very cool tool that will allow us to learn and create far beyond what has ever been possible before.

    • @iliketowatchutoob
      @iliketowatchutoob Рік тому +7

      Art won't go away, but doing it professionally to make a living will. And a piece of humanity's soul will be lost forever.

    • @lordtette
      @lordtette Рік тому +5

      Personally I wouldn't conpare the introduction of photogrsphy to ai. Photography is a skill, unlike ai which is just prompts and scrapping people's work

    • @GalaxColor
      @GalaxColor Рік тому +4

      Bruh lol it literally only steals.

    • @FedThePoopy
      @FedThePoopy Рік тому +9

      Part of the issue is that the endgame of this is kinda eliminating art as a profession for 99% of artists. And in the world we live in we are trending towards just having to work work work to scrounge up enough money to live not really leaving that much time and energy for the average person to do art. Also to know that almost every piece of “art” you see in movies, billboards, ads, etc is not human, I think it would be quite depressing.

    • @bloodymary__
      @bloodymary__ Рік тому +2

      Well said! I agree

  • @gheatza
    @gheatza 10 місяців тому +9

    what an eye opening and thought provoking experience, thank you MOMA.
    and I were to take one single thing that really impressed me, it's this idea:
    "I also believe that AI algorithms may have a different purpose. It's kind of this finding the language of humanity by using collective memories to create collective dreams and eventually collective consciousness."
    what an awe inspiring thought, what an awe inspiring goal to motivate one towards learning these systems 🙇

  • @TomHutchinson5
    @TomHutchinson5 Рік тому +8

    I enjoyed the examples where the artists used their work to explain important parts of how these systems work. Training data is an important part of AI. So are the related ideas of embeddings, an embedding / latent space, encoders and decoders. These are AI details worth knowing about for the general public.

  • @timeenoughforart
    @timeenoughforart Рік тому +62

    I look at AI art and see every hallucinogenic trip I've ever been on. Interesting and occasionally educational, but I really need to stay reality based to keep my sanity. Are losing our collective sanity? Human relationships have become social media relationships. The future looks like human reality becoming an artificial reality. I live on a farm at the edge of a desert and we are no longer visited by butterflies. None of my neighbors seem to be aware of this. They live in a Trumpian, MacDonald's, TikTok, Walmart, asphalt, and digital reality. Will the only butterfly my grandkids know be an AI simulation? I remember the "DARE" program in grade school telling me if I drop acid just once I could have flashbacks my entire life. What they didn't tell me is flashbacks would not be any crazier than the reality our culture builds for itself.

  • @AdamSDoyle
    @AdamSDoyle Рік тому +6

    This is amazing. I'm an artist and have been struggling with motivation lately. Even though AI-generated art lacks key qualities that differentiate from real art, we all experience the world more and more through screens. So the difference to most people is arbitrary. And that's terrible for society. Grateful for the sharp mind of the artist to cut through the machine and reconnect us with our humanity. Thank you for the work you're doing.

  • @TomHutchinson5
    @TomHutchinson5 Рік тому +30

    A big problem with technology-based art in recent decades is that many of the artists creating it have a weak grasp of the technology itself. Much of it has basically been word clouds and screen savers. A lot of good art begins with mastery of tools, technique, and medium.

    • @coloryvr
      @coloryvr Рік тому +2

      You're partly right,
      but there are certainly new challenges to crafting artistic mastery that are more challenging than traditional tools like brushes:
      For 6 years I have only been painting 3-dimensional in VR, for 6 months I have been integrating AI into my art worlds.
      (Just 1 example: AI generates amazing endless textures that can be used for (animated!) VR brushes.
      Painting with VR glasses in a virtual 3d space is the most demanding way of using a brush because the hand now also has to manage a third dimension. Happy colored Greetinx!

    • @maxkho00
      @maxkho00 Рік тому +1

      @@coloryvr Btw do you still paint in VR now that Google Brush has been discontinued? If so, how, if you don't mind me asking?

    • @jonathanbowen3640
      @jonathanbowen3640 Рік тому

      Using the AI to have it create interesting results requires great skill. Its a tool and requires practice time, patience and mastery. I say this who is actually using AI to generate ideas and render stuff in to save time and improve my creative process. Its my actual job. I'm not just commenting on stuff I barely if at all use.

    • @jonathanbowen3640
      @jonathanbowen3640 Рік тому

      @@coloryvr VR is amazing. I use gravity sketch a lot these days. It feels very natural.

    • @iammcqwory
      @iammcqwory Рік тому

      A lot of good art begins with mastery of tools, technique, and medium. Thoughtful.

  • @p.z.8355
    @p.z.8355 Рік тому +49

    He says that he want to use generative AI in a non-conventional way, but generating images based on a corpus of images is like the most conventional way ever xD

    • @angelvega2937
      @angelvega2937 Рік тому +1

      hmm there's more to trevor paglen than just that. He has a couple photo series about surveillance and US bases

    • @maxkho00
      @maxkho00 Рік тому +5

      He generates images by travelling through the latent space. You have entirely misunderstood his work process.

  • @cocreativeAI
    @cocreativeAI Місяць тому

    Interesting take on what it means to train AI and how that relates to art itself. The artist has turned the concept of genAI artmaking around to emphasize the human element of these systems.

  • @wisperingbeard
    @wisperingbeard Рік тому +406

    Though visually appealing, my reaction is the same as it was to those early 2000s Windows screen savers. There simply is no soul in it.

    • @danrazART
      @danrazART Рік тому +17

      Soul?
      If you are not aware that it is not human made, you can sense soul?
      Technically, it is always you the beholder who experience the art, not the maker.

    • @TallicaMan1986
      @TallicaMan1986 Рік тому +2

      Frutiger Aero is a legit art style and humans made that... sooo

    • @alessandromorelli5866
      @alessandromorelli5866 Рік тому

      well
      how would you know?
      I mean it, not as joke or anything
      an ai may actually dream what it is showing, you know, it's using real photos and real data to make new ones.

    • @fundotxcutie1362
      @fundotxcutie1362 Рік тому +5

      We disagree, there are many pieces which invoke various emotions. Just need to find artists which resonate with you. There are plenty fantastic pieces

    • @nigel-uno
      @nigel-uno Рік тому +2

      There is no soul when someone paints a canvas black, leaves it blank or flips a urinal on its side.

  • @0bakengis
    @0bakengis Рік тому +10

    All I know is that AI's impact on art- and the world at large- will be unprecedented. The best we can do right now is start figuring out the ethical/legal frameworks that will ensure that AI doesn't work against humanity. Companies like OpenAI need to be held accountable for the data that is fed to these models.

  • @NolanFriedline
    @NolanFriedline Рік тому +51

    How would A.I. identify the abstract? I recently had a revelation about abstract expressionism in that it doesn't look like anything, and that is the point. Like that song from Audioslave "It Doesn't Remind Me of Anything". It lets your brain see whatever you want instead of recognizing a figure or a landscape. Great video, very provocative.

  • @mrmarcinho
    @mrmarcinho Рік тому +3

    I really appreciate the way MOMA is pushing the boundaries of traditional art and I'm excited to see more of their groundbreaking work in the future. However, I was intrigued by the concerns about human will versus machine will, as well as issues of perception. I didn't notice anything related to political art or for visually impaired people in the video presentation. It would be interesting to see how MOMA could address these issues in their art.

    • @ohara.
      @ohara. Рік тому

      what that machine is making is not art sir art is a human concept we can look at nature and call the beauty of it a work of art because we recognize patterns that relate to our unique imagination a machine that learns from humans and without it they couldn't do just that is not capable of creating art, but this is software engineers putting artists out of work and their weapon is capitalsim this is making our minds lazy and kills imagination i just hope your livelihood is not dependent on commissions like mine (i know this was long and im sorry) my highest paid job was a city mural, now i hear they can print the image on the wall, you cant expect me to welcome it and call me uncultured or fearful of technology when its pushing me towards being homeless

  • @julianleon777
    @julianleon777 Рік тому +132

    It's funny that even though the IA doesn't use our human reference points, it ends up generating pretty cute images to satisfy the public. It seems to me that this people pleasing lava lamp is based on the erroneous idea that the moma archive is just images and forgets that these works have a body, that without that body they are just ghosts, incomplete specters that can only generate an odradek innocuous and futile as the work of Anadoll.

    • @evetrue2615
      @evetrue2615 Рік тому +26

      Someone was reading Ben Davis.. These results are pretty emotionally and even formalistically vacant, as with most procedurally generated art or architecture. However, arguing that just because something is digital, it must be a floating ghost without substance is stupid. You can see a level of detail and contrast in a scanned artwork that is not attainable in a classical gallery environment. Moreover, we should not be afraid of this new outlook on the past that can also show us some uncomfortable characteristics that come from statistical analysis.

    • @edgarmondragon4708
      @edgarmondragon4708 Рік тому

      Oh, the (romantic) dualism.
      "All Bibles or sacred codes have been the causes of the following Errors.
      1. That Man has two real existing principles: Viz: a Body & a Soul."
      [...]
      "But the following Contraries to these are True
      1. Man has no Body distinct from his Soul; for that call’d Body is a portion of Soul discern’d by the five Senses, the chief inlets of Soul in this age"

    • @sabrina1380m
      @sabrina1380m Рік тому

      ​@@evetrue2615 people consider it a floating ghost with no soul for obvious reasons...

    • @Vizible21
      @Vizible21 Рік тому

      "doesn't use our human reference points"
      Ai developer literally steals data from real life artist. Wtf u saying?

    • @DeadGuye1995
      @DeadGuye1995 Рік тому +1

      @@evetrue2615 No even cringier... hes quoting the scifi video game, "Death Stranding" created by a Japanese man named "Hideo Kojima" he made the video game series called "Metal Gear Solid" the entire plot of which as well as the videogame he is quoting, is about technology taking over human life. Hyper common trope in Japanese fiction.

  • @andycordy5190
    @andycordy5190 Рік тому +16

    Awe inspiring. The longterm fascination with machine learning, as always, has been egocentric. Manifesting human qualities in machines. Personally, I think it is vitally important for artists to document the processes of machine learning as we know it now, just as we need to record any other aspect of contemporary life for posterity but I find it so exciting that we also have an opportunity to facilitate the production of art in wholly new ways, as shown here to tremendous effect. Just as humans have problems sometimes tagging or classifying thoughts and ideas, we can expect machine learning to produce odd and eccentric outcomes from the mis interpretation of training data. As with anything else associated with AI this will provoke hostile and fearful reactions in some people. My take on that is that AI cannot possibly exceed the boundaries of horror and depravity that human kind has not already presented so bring it on!

  • @Strongertogether47
    @Strongertogether47 Рік тому +11

    Restriction and boundaries are the pressures that squeeze the juice of creativity out of a person. I assume that restriction and borders will also produce better Ai art as well. A machine that is limitless in its creative ability will in fact create nothing because the options are too great to make an “artistic decision” there will be no happy accidents. The pitfalls and the glitches of the Ai art machine are the only thing about them that could be considered art. I think a more realistic application of Ai into art would be to allow the artist to create his own algorithm in a simple way so that an artist can still deliver a vision instead of just a maximalist gobble goop. Minimalism came into being in the 20th century because of the rationing that went down during the world wars. Jack white of the white stripes created his two person blues duo because he couldn’t find anyone else. These happy accidents or the soul or the humanness of art will be lost if we lose our boundaries.

  • @TomHutchinson5
    @TomHutchinson5 Рік тому +19

    Unsupervised learned isn't bad. It's what we do all the time. I'll read a book and figure out what I think about it myself. Supervised learning is what we do with kids. We have them read something but also tell them what they should think about it.

  • @Stellifant
    @Stellifant Рік тому

    Fascinating. Thank you

  • @crosszoel
    @crosszoel Рік тому +1

    As the great Ian Malcolm once said: "Oooh, ahhh, that's how it always starts. Then later there's running and um, screaming"
    Yes, let's unleash the A.I and let it do whatever it wants with no regulations, no strings. We will see the result in the future...

  • @gedepc513
    @gedepc513 Рік тому

    8:50 is really important!

  • @TommyLeiStudio
    @TommyLeiStudio Рік тому +4

    So the future of art is having the capital, the funding, and the team to super-process art over massive computers that no average artist will have access to. Mmkay, message received.

  • @tobyeglesfield4403
    @tobyeglesfield4403 Рік тому +40

    It feels like biological scans - the complexity and textures hold a certain beauty but it makes me feel how I do seeing pictures of fractals or snowflakes. The narrative speaks to me a of a transitional time and a sadness as corporations shape these tools and artists get on board exploring the technology.

    • @WALDENSOFTWARE
      @WALDENSOFTWARE Рік тому

      True. A lot of artists jumped on the anti ai bandwagon only to be the first to utilize the technology. This shows that not many were actually anti ai, but more looking after their personal interests. Very sad indeed.

    • @triton62674
      @triton62674 Рік тому +3

      Perhaps we should start examining the links between commerce and art more closely; the priority of industry has never chiefly been to progress art in any direction other than the one that makes the most money.

  • @stego4LP
    @stego4LP 10 місяців тому

    Is there any way to get Info about the Music used in this video? Loved it!

  • @lillian6828
    @lillian6828 Рік тому +6

    Very thought-proving for human artisits in the age of AI. I wonder how diverse are the small group of AI developers, are they diverse enough to determine what material 'they' choose to feed and train AI...

    • @anestheticfilms
      @anestheticfilms Рік тому +1

      Even if they're not diverse enough, human artists are driven by an inner impulse not a mechanical one, AI is just a tool, like a canvas or Photoshop or any editing software. My only concern is over saturation of AI Art. I think the companies have to be tasteful in publishing these powerful tools. It's like you won't find that many experts in excel unless their careers requires that from them. That's how I see it.

  • @shywry
    @shywry Рік тому +4

    I didn't expect @andrewhuang to be featured in this video!.
    Great job!!!

    • @jerbear97
      @jerbear97 Рік тому

      where? damn I didn't catch that

  • @AnaCristina-dv6qu
    @AnaCristina-dv6qu Рік тому +8

    That’s great, but I wonder if they consult any of his artist in the database about if they wanted to be in the AI, aren’t they reducing their previous artist to only tools for the AI?

    • @wooolves3749
      @wooolves3749 9 місяців тому

      As an AI artist, you have to see fellow artists as tools.

  • @brendalouie8447
    @brendalouie8447 11 місяців тому

    As a traditional artists, if i incorporate the images of my work with the ramdonly selected images from the AI data, will this make my work more unique! While I am using the AI data, do I have the control over how much or how little data I can borrow from the AI data base to inject into my personal data base, will my art be more reflective of my personal characteristics or personalities!

  • @andresmarcial6506
    @andresmarcial6506 Рік тому +2

    I think that the appreciation of the artist being displaced by the machine (photographic camera) in his/her function, is wrong. First off, artists in the nineteenth century were not necessarily interested in depicting reality identically as we visually perceive it, artists were more interested in the psychic qualities of the new paradigm of reality. Second, Duchamp intention was not necessarily changing the role of an artist, but making a joke about what art is. The ready-made was not just an automatization of the artistic process, but it was a political statement to undermine art institution.

  • @ChristophKustler
    @ChristophKustler Рік тому +5

    I thought AI would bring us free energy, zero gravity devices, all that good stuff... we've been framed again.

  • @chadyonfire7878
    @chadyonfire7878 Рік тому +2

    iinteressted in seeing new ways of using ai

  • @brigetteschlumloffer8804
    @brigetteschlumloffer8804 10 місяців тому

    “True Art is Truthful.” ~ Jackson Mack McGuinness

  • @coloryvr
    @coloryvr Рік тому +1

    Thesis:
    The real power of generative AI unfolds in VR.
    The creation of 3 dimensional, immersive image and sound worlds, will become a new art direction...VR art means I can give the viewer an almost 100 percent distraction-free experience. ...and the AIs will enable previously unthinkable applications in this area......
    ...and yes: I vacillate between fascination, creative euphoria and vague anxiety....

  • @nabi5864
    @nabi5864 Рік тому

    I've been hand drawing painting several mediums over last few decades, graphic digital art for 20 years, and photography for 15 years...... Out of curiosity I tried out the Mid-Journey to it's fullest potential....It's quite amazing what it can do for now...I think between 5-10 years it will pretty much come close to what I can do....But most definitely lacks compared to the real thing...But I have no doubt in 10 years

  • @drxyd
    @drxyd Рік тому

    Seeing artists harness AI in this way is beautiful. This is why we need a dialogue between science and the humanities lest our works become soulless or feeble.

  • @JimMulvaney
    @JimMulvaney Рік тому +1

    Most people don't understand that there is no such thing as true randomization or objectivity in computer programming. Everything from the first keystroke of the program has a bias to it that is generally based upon the programmer's preference and own understanding. Likewise for as incredible as our technology has become it is flawed because we created it and we are flawed.

  • @AraShiNoMiwaKo
    @AraShiNoMiwaKo Рік тому

    On the other hand, that looked like a cool af screensaver to have.

  • @alexgorghe2745
    @alexgorghe2745 Рік тому

    does anybody know the site from 09:17?

  • @amaniahnuar
    @amaniahnuar Рік тому +9

    this feels like data visualization done with extra steps and showing to people saying "this is special, it has meanings and we don't know". funny, that'd cost a data scientist's job hahaha

  • @domofalltradez
    @domofalltradez Рік тому

    What a great video

  • @andreserafim906
    @andreserafim906 Рік тому +1

    Muito bom, análise show, é uma obra prima uma mensagem uma luz no escuro dos dias ,perfeito!

  • @sculptor000
    @sculptor000 Рік тому +2

    Anybody remember when Jerry Saltz called this exhibition a "MoMA’s Glorified Lava Lamp"? lol

  • @AKMRULES48
    @AKMRULES48 Рік тому

    It's a dissolve effect like in premiere pro. Dreaming would be a too-fancy word for it.

  • @echoinsahara
    @echoinsahara Рік тому +7

    5 years ago I was hoping I could have access to all these images and play with the ML algorithms.

  • @lukechiappetta4861
    @lukechiappetta4861 Рік тому +6

    Beautiful

  • @josephvanname3377
    @josephvanname3377 11 місяців тому

    Everyone is mentioning AI, but nobody seems to know about Charles Bennett's 1989 time/space tradeoffs paper that will make us rethink the way that we are to compute.

    • @appleblossomxo
      @appleblossomxo 10 місяців тому

      The Ai tech decision-makers probably don't want people to read the Charles Bennett's 1989 time/space tradeoffs paper, most of the population wouldn't understand the math references and the globalist politicians would of course rush to relate the pebbling as racist. Section 230 needs to be removed so real Journalists have access to the public to explain in fair and neutral layman terms.
      Unfortunately, the Global Agenda PLAN is in full effect against Republic societies, as pre-warned to Congress by Sir James Goldsmith, almost 30 years ago during the Clinton administration's rush of the bad GATT free trade agreement. ua-cam.com/video/dKsTxemQpOY/v-deo.html Everything warned has come true, so far, Biden bridged the 'unity' with global multinational corporatists and the partnership of the CCP with U.S. media giants continues.

  • @albertoballocca
    @albertoballocca Рік тому

    This is really fascinating and incredible!

  • @ticoticotaco9898
    @ticoticotaco9898 Рік тому +14

    Gosto muito da noção de que hoje se vive em uma época contraria ao que Platão dizia sobre sair da caverna. Hoje existe tanta luz e claridade, tanta observação e categorização de que o mais saudavel seja buscar o mistério. Talvez.

  • @artlesscalamity348
    @artlesscalamity348 Рік тому +5

    Art is literally human expression.
    If it was made by a machine, it is not art.

  • @MaxLove333
    @MaxLove333 Рік тому

    just alghoritms, there is more verbal art in the oniric description of just binary alghoritms that are as automatics as roomba that cleans your floor...

  • @isisrodrigueztheartist5386
    @isisrodrigueztheartist5386 10 днів тому

    can AI understand and create irony, sarcasm, innuendo, double entendre, and all the intricate ways that humans communicate?

  • @emilyrainflower25
    @emilyrainflower25 Рік тому +30

    This is super interesting, but I wonder how he deals with the fact that AI can’t come up with new images or patterns - it can only repurpose. So any “dream” that it comes up with is ultimately a re arrangement of elements (colour, shape, form) from other’s (humans) work in MoMa’s collection.

    • @DarkAngelEU
      @DarkAngelEU Рік тому

      They will probably say this is some philosophical reflection on humanity's error that we believe anything is original, while in fact everything is copied or stolen, as Dali once said.
      But we know that's alot of bull. Humans have created incredibly original tools with no precedent.

    • @noorshahid2742
      @noorshahid2742 Рік тому +7

      Everything is a copy of a copy of a copy anyway

    • @samjaccard6337
      @samjaccard6337 Рік тому +11

      Isn't this what humans are also doing?

    • @Brickkzz
      @Brickkzz Рік тому +4

      Do human artists also not repurpose elements from the prior art/experiences to create their work?

    • @yyyyaiza
      @yyyyaiza Рік тому +2

      Neither can we. Nobody’s ideas are actually original

  • @peaoat3608
    @peaoat3608 Рік тому +2

    The future of art: artists doing nothing but examining what it means to live in the world of machine learning because nothing else will matter. No worries. There will still be nepotism, favoritism and snobby little art worlds. Old habits die hard.

  • @desertportal353
    @desertportal353 11 місяців тому

    This is a dream within the dream. THE Dream. Start there. "Who" perceives or is aware of this? "Who" knows anything about this? And with any knowing that is based ... based on what?

  • @manuelnicolasgonzalez9396
    @manuelnicolasgonzalez9396 Рік тому

    This is unbelievable

  • @engeomusic
    @engeomusic Рік тому

    This is interesting and awesome stuff. The guys repeating the whole "ai image generation is completely uninteresting to me" comes off as pretentious. AI image generators are still really new, evolving tech, it's inherently fascinating...

  • @TSerrato
    @TSerrato Рік тому +2

    We need art. Give me painting, drawing, sculpture.

  • @juleslu8403
    @juleslu8403 Рік тому

    it doesn't look as spectacular as they make it sound. such a hype 😅

  • @okayimbackwhateverjones
    @okayimbackwhateverjones Рік тому

    Oh thank God

  • @BrianHutzellMusic
    @BrianHutzellMusic 11 місяців тому

    11:34
    “Art is dead
    Long live the new machine art
    Oh, Tatlin
    Art is dead
    Long live the new machine art”
    - Richard Jobson, from “Armoury Show”

  • @Sauternes1965
    @Sauternes1965 2 місяці тому

    jaw dropping...

  • @painterhead
    @painterhead Рік тому +7

    "literally flying"

  • @djstief8190
    @djstief8190 10 місяців тому

    I'm sorry but 7 months ago my patron asked me to look at the ai. A generation that trained with Photoshop, CGI, etc., Tools, will eventually become the tools. Campbelltown, NSW, with Packer sponsorship, and Western Sydney University instituted an ai award November 22. Awards for tools.

  • @tarasDN
    @tarasDN Рік тому +7

    There is certainly a big misunderstanding around what the collective unconsciousness is. AI can only pretend or mimic this so-called collective unconsciousness because unconsciousness itself is not a random collage of things from internet. C.J is probably spinning in his grave now.

  • @dweb
    @dweb Рік тому +3

    I do think that the AI is using our value system and points of reference. The model fills up the voids with inferences of the art collection categories. I challenge anyone to create these inferences without our value system and points of reference as raw input for the resulting weights and biases.

  • @raindrozest9558
    @raindrozest9558 Рік тому

    Cool. How can I use/see the thing they talk about at the end with the Alexa example?

  • @weareallbeingwatched4602
    @weareallbeingwatched4602 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice screensaver, bruv. We could call it "creeping featuritis".

  • @cyrilio
    @cyrilio Рік тому +4

    This is the kind of art that can help with understanding other living beings. Like whales or dolphins.

  • @bxlis
    @bxlis Рік тому +40

    its really boring technical stuff after some time itll be a daily thing people have in their life and thats it.

    • @nigel-uno
      @nigel-uno Рік тому

      You're just gonna turn off your brain and then cry AI is copy pasting 2 minutes later when videos explain it's not.

    • @juliomillan1016
      @juliomillan1016 Рік тому

      Like photography and computers right?

    • @sarahpekarcikova722
      @sarahpekarcikova722 Рік тому

      Exactly ! Just like the e-art was in the late 90s and early 00s.

    • @S-K.
      @S-K. Рік тому

      Just like pens and paper huh? Why follow an art museum if you don’t recognize the value of a new tool for creating art?

    • @DarkAngelEU
      @DarkAngelEU Рік тому

      Imagine a movie where Alexa is a failed artist and causes an AI-fascist uprising.

  • @EveBatStudios
    @EveBatStudios Рік тому +4

    Good to finally see a backswing on the negativity as people embrace the future in regard to AI being here as part of a future we are all going to live in. I can't tell you how frustrating its been to be the kind of person who is always hunting for new experimental technologies for 10 years just to suddenly have friends brainwashed into seeing me as a bad actor for even looking into AI art workflows. I've always seen a weird pushback on these new technologies like mocap, 3d scanning, quadcoptors, procedural generation. In 2016 I was using quadcoptors to 3d scan people and scenes for unreal engine before that was normalized. Its exhausting to have someone who barely understands technology come at us with the cliff notes of someones copy pasted social media rant and a head full of half baked paranoia. Just the big talking point of the moment and if there is anything this species likes to do its confidently speculate and project regarding things they have no grip on what-so-ever. Things change, things will continue to change, adapt, survive.

    • @badbunnyky
      @badbunnyky Рік тому +1

      i mean, to be fair AI art does pose an enormous risk to the art communities. now that this tech is here, there are definitely going to be hundreds if not thousands of artists put out of work. not that it will completely destroy art, but this will create a massive shift in the art world which we will need to adapt to. i think refik here has showed some very excellent artistic merit with this project, its intriguing and emotional and beautiful and harnesses the power of this new technology in an awesome way. but it also makes sense for many to be upset by AI arts existence.

  • @daeshavvn
    @daeshavvn Рік тому

    Credits go to the training data

  • @TalwinderDhillonTravels
    @TalwinderDhillonTravels Рік тому +1

    Nice screensavers

  • @karinaether
    @karinaether Рік тому +1

    Is little boring is like the mode ( math term) of the conventional

  • @damianhambly6493
    @damianhambly6493 Рік тому

    a new language!

  • @TsarHare
    @TsarHare Рік тому

    Love

  • @dagzimmer4129
    @dagzimmer4129 Рік тому +3

    I expected to hear something about rights. Did all the artists give their consent to see their art being used for these AI processes? I personally would hate to see my images being dumped into a digital garbage can.

  • @pickyourlikeslulu
    @pickyourlikeslulu 4 місяці тому +1

    I can easily imagine contemporary artists getting fascinated by AI, things in category of art or not doesn't matter anymore, just loving the new possibility that haven't been before - that's me at least

  • @pinarervardar
    @pinarervardar 2 місяці тому

    Refik Anadol is an unbelivable creative and modest artist and human. Thank You Refik,Thank You MOMA

  • @Tod_oMal
    @Tod_oMal Рік тому +71

    You keep your AI, I keep the Art.
    Real Art.

    • @IsThatYouSimon
      @IsThatYouSimon Рік тому +22

      AI is a tool. As a camera or a brush are. Open your mind if you speak about Art, you should enlarge your vision

    • @kikemunoz8058
      @kikemunoz8058 Рік тому

      @@IsThatYouSimon I know for certain that a brush is a tool and a camera are physical things and I can manipulate as my creativity please. Artist is manipulating AI or the other way around ?

    • @nigel-uno
      @nigel-uno Рік тому +1

      You are too young to remember life before computers. People had the exact same criticisms against machines. Ask your art professor

    • @DeadGuye1995
      @DeadGuye1995 Рік тому +1

      @@IsThatYouSimon Ai(artifical intelligence) is not an object, its a term to describe a long "boring" definition. The functionality within a computer program that auto completes tasks on a personal computing device, which does require human input but less so that older programs of the same nature.

    • @juliomillan1016
      @juliomillan1016 Рік тому

      I'm sure someone from the modern era made this comment years ago but changing AI to Abstractionism

  • @AnthonyAcriaradiocomix
    @AnthonyAcriaradiocomix 9 місяців тому

    AI...shit Roman Antony here has made a point I'll never use photoshop. Didnt you see the cameo of Pat Harrington Jr.in The Presidents Analyst...?

  • @DanilaMUNGARA
    @DanilaMUNGARA Рік тому

    This is only the beginning of AI Art...

  • @adloun365
    @adloun365 Рік тому

    "less is more." This principle emphasizes the importance of simplicity, minimalism, and the removal of unnecessary elements in design to achieve clarity and impact. It suggests that by focusing on essential elements, one can create a more powerful and effective design.

  • @rameshdevasi6720
    @rameshdevasi6720 Рік тому

    consciousness is the only thing Ai will never know, this is humans only value.

  • @muchomacho79
    @muchomacho79 Рік тому +13

    This is amazing. Please make the training data set public/open source. Then we'd all have access to the ultimate AI art app.

  • @catoftruth1044
    @catoftruth1044 10 місяців тому

    it screams DEVALUATION! but in fairness the way they present the images using a joystick and flying through it looks innovative.

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 Рік тому

    Bring back Retro-Futurism Vibes.
    Stray away from Dystopian pessimism that is solely ruled by fear, power & capitalistic ideas.

  • @SGCKARE
    @SGCKARE 6 місяців тому

    🍃

  • @smkh2890
    @smkh2890 Рік тому

    Thanks for this. It's good to see artists actually using the possibilities and exploring the boundaries,
    if any, of this new medium. Mostly I've seen artists lamenting the paradigm shift and crying
    "But but...is it 'Art!"

  • @master.y8129
    @master.y8129 Рік тому

    영상미술의마지막 단계같네~

  • @pshe2mg
    @pshe2mg Рік тому +2

    strong infomercial vibes

  • @Heyu7her3
    @Heyu7her3 2 місяці тому

    Oh that's cool. "Nothing exists here, but what *could* exist."

  • @michael7018
    @michael7018 8 днів тому

    It’s just nerds feeding an AI bunch of data. That’s not art. It’s stupendous to associate art with AI generated content. It’s a sacrilege to the real creativeness or geniuses in some instance of real artist. The are practical AI functions that supplement creativity but it’s not nerds feeding machines.

  • @diegoescorza394
    @diegoescorza394 Рік тому

    This approaches in art should AVOID words from old art like "performance"

  • @totipark54
    @totipark54 Рік тому

    @11:11

  • @bnosel
    @bnosel Рік тому +1

    Aah, the innocence.

  • @spencerpearson6250
    @spencerpearson6250 Рік тому +15

    AI will absolutely create an even more inequitable society...it's foolish to think otherwise.

    • @Zarnubius
      @Zarnubius Рік тому

      giving more people the ability to be creative = inequity. ok low iq. learn something useful.

    • @brigetteschlumloffer8804
      @brigetteschlumloffer8804 10 місяців тому +1

      Ok. So what? The word "Equality" immediately elicits Conflict. There never has been equality, and there never will...its foolish to think otherwise.

    • @P13r6
      @P13r6 9 місяців тому +1

      It already is

  • @SunsetDreamms
    @SunsetDreamms Рік тому

    The Mona Lisa is still smiling..

  • @Scar.cam.of.league
    @Scar.cam.of.league Рік тому +7

    Amazing