What does the Virgin Mary look like?

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  • Опубліковано 15 лис 2021
  • Rogier van der Weyden, Saint Luke Drawing the Virgin, c. 1435-40, oil and tempera on panel, 137.5 x 110.8 cm (Museum of Fine Arts, Boston)
    A conversation with Dr. Christopher Atkins, Van Otterloo-Weatherbie Director of the Center for Netherlandish Art and Dr. Beth Harris.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 22

  • @JessmanChicken86
    @JessmanChicken86 2 роки тому +18

    I love the extreme detail of the northern European painters.

  • @marianaprates9379
    @marianaprates9379 2 роки тому +9

    I love Rogier van der Weyden. He is absolutely fantastic.

  • @carlberg7503
    @carlberg7503 2 роки тому +7

    Great painting, great lecture, great use of close-ups to appreciate the details.

  • @matthew-jy5jp
    @matthew-jy5jp 2 роки тому +4

    Beautiful painting. God bless everyone watching. And happy Thanksgiving

  • @supremereader7614
    @supremereader7614 2 роки тому

    The Artist''s artwork. Wonderful! Thank you! 🙏

  • @bruce9635
    @bruce9635 2 роки тому +4

    Exquisite

  • @majeabad9483
    @majeabad9483 Рік тому +1

    What interested me in this 1440 painting is the dress of the Virgin Mary. It has flower patterns. And it reminded me of the Lady's image of herself in the 1531 Our Lady of Guadalupe. So the Virgin Mary does like wearing flower patterned dresses.😊

  • @diegowithane
    @diegowithane 2 роки тому +3

    cool arts man

  • @supremereader7614
    @supremereader7614 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful video, but I wish you'd leave us with the raw image for a bit longer. Just as I egin to absorb and begin to contemplate it, you change scenes. It would be great if you left a scene for ten seconds or even more.

    • @smarthistoryvideos
      @smarthistoryvideos  2 роки тому +1

      You can find our high resolution images on our Flickr site here: www.flickr.com/photos/profzucker/
      If you want to look at the Rogier van der Weyden photos specifically, here is a link: www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc&safe_search=1&tags=weyden&user_id=82032880%40N00&view_all=1

  • @schoolstudio7915
    @schoolstudio7915 2 роки тому

    Really interesting ! Give us an idea of ​​how the artist make a painting for Virgin Mary in those days.. thank you

  • @juniorberns
    @juniorberns 2 роки тому

    Looks vary.. but she was a Roman Citizen.

  • @Sasha0927
    @Sasha0927 Рік тому +1

    I can't imagine such a pious woman being willing to expose herself before a man who is not her husband - especially not in that culture or at that time. Seems unrealistic and unappealing in the way that click-bait titles are.

  • @mjsmcd
    @mjsmcd Рік тому

    Luke wrote gospel 50 to 100 yrs after jesus and mary time

    • @smarthistoryvideos
      @smarthistoryvideos  Рік тому

      The attribution of the text is itself insecure. The focus of the video however is not on scriptural sources, as art historians, our focus is on the object and the world in which it was made including what van der Weyden believed to be true.

  • @TheDanEdwards
    @TheDanEdwards 2 роки тому +2

    1:26 - "The viewer in the fifteenth century certainly would have understood that saint Luke, the virgin, and Christ did not exist in their own time but..." - of course the 15th century audience would have thought that. The question is, though, whether the artist (Rogier van der Weyden) was trying to portray the alleged author of the third canonical gospel as being contemporary with the author's subjects. Given the masses could not read, and even literate people likely knew little to nothing of the history of the Levant the artist is pushing church dogma that somehow the third gospel is a sort of historical chronicle. The artist is in service to his church, something at which many who wish to be artists today would not find desirable.

    • @MeanApollo
      @MeanApollo 2 роки тому

      There are always people like you, who do nothing else but to seek to destructively undermine and warp everything from history in the worst possible way.
      Whats the reason for that ?! Dont tell me, i already know...
      More than anything else, it shows what is in YOUR heaf and heart, which you then project.

  • @veronicaperez-rx5ef
    @veronicaperez-rx5ef 2 роки тому +3

    But she wasn’t so pale so light skinned. 🙄 beautiful but c’mon.

    • @smarthistoryvideos
      @smarthistoryvideos  2 роки тому +1

      Despite the conceit of the painting, while art can be a bridge to the time and place it was made, it isn't usually that helpful regarding what is being depicted in terms of its historical accuracy. So while this painting can tell us a great deal about van der Weyden and his world, it can't tell us much at all about someone who lived 1,500 years before the painter did.

    • @wess5060
      @wess5060 2 роки тому

      Amen. Hear we go again...Whites claiming people from other cultures. It's laughable. 😄😄😄It's evident that painting was done years after Mary and Luke's death.

    • @MeanApollo
      @MeanApollo 2 роки тому +1

      So ? Whats your point ?

    • @Monadshavenowindows
      @Monadshavenowindows Рік тому +1

      History as a critical and systematic discipline didn’t exist like it does today back in ancient, medieval, and early modern times. This is why depictions of Mary, Christ, and other important figures in the faith are depicted with physical features and dressed in ways that resemble the culture and ethnicity of the region of the artist. They couldn’t just get on a plane and go to Israel, or ask a neighbor who happens to be an expert archaeologist that just flew back from Jerusalem.