Sometimes I need multi-color printing, I bought P1Swith AMS. Pursuing efficiency, I got my T1 2 months ago . In my opinion, the most important factors for 3D printing: speed, quality, multi-color; of course other factors are also important, ease of use, ecology, etc. So I chose bambu and flsun .
I have a T1 for a little over a month now and had little to no problems, the filament needs to feeded tru the holes of the cable clips to stop the coiling thing. Check your belt tension to stop the banding in z direction .sofar I have printed, PLA, PETG, ABS and TPE and they all work ok with the flsun slicer, fan speed can be reduced from 50 to 70% when printing around 400mm/s
I just ordered the T1 Pro and I will be printing PETG would love to know what settings you used to print your PETG and higher speeds. I use mostly Creality CR series and I’m told printing at 500mm/s is no problem with the right settings.
If T1 does better in terms of noise and software, then it will be a very impactful product . The current T1 has demonstrated its huge potential, it just needs to do better .
About noise , you can do some optimization yourself. As far as I know, flsun is also optimizing the noise. Because I have many printers printing together, I am not very sensitive to this aspect.
Thanks for the video! I always watch your videos soon after they come up and I keep waiting/hoping for a new video from you with a new Bambu printer. Keep up the good work!
Glad I didn't follow through with this purchase. I was already turned off by the noise level but I think your right, that the company needs to pay more attention to quality vs speed. I love my Q5 but my next printer will be a Bambu A1 or the mini :)
I just ordered the T1 Pro and I print mostly print PETG. I couldn’t pass up the Black Friday deal. As for the slicer, now we have ver 2.02 and it’s pretty much Orca slicer. They have the Advanced settings available and all the calibrations parts etc. I think they heard you. 😮
Seems like this is not quite ready for prime time. It's funny, I have an old FLSUN Q5 that I got for super cheap, and it's actually been really solid. It does require regular care and feeding (and tends to go through extruders like candy...), but the print quality is generally good, and when operated within its limits, it's been a workhorse. I use it for high tolerance, utility type printing, and it's still chugging away after probably 30-35kg of PLA, PETG, and even some ABS through it. Delta printers are conceptually cool (not to mention oddly satisfying to watch), but in practice they just don't seem super practical for hobby or production use.
it also can't output 90mm^3 or go 1000mm/s, their claim to that is from a test file they made which, yes, does ask the printer to go that fast, but the prints geometry never lets the printer accelerate to anywhere near that speed. It's like asking any ender to print a zig-zag at 20'000mm/s with an accel of 1, and claiming it was doing 20K
@@qozia1370 It can easily do 400 mm/s kinematic speed (probably 3-4x that too), but nowhere near the flow to keep up *printing* at that speed with 0.4 mm by 0.2 mm layers. Maybe with 0.1 mm layer height.
So its a good review, but I am just baffled you didnt also talk about how the advertised speeds are about as made up as the build volume is. You just kinda glossed over that point.
I would rather a printer manufacturer provide good profiles for Prusa Slicer \ Orca Slicer and\or Cura than waste their time rebranding their "own" slicer software. I don't use any of the four slicers that have been included with my printers. Also, I agree about the max height thing. It's disingenuous for FLSun to base their max height on some theoretical cone rather than on the tallest cylinder you could print.
My theory is flsun printers are not plug and play. Keeping an flsun printer stock from the factory is a mistake. At the very least tuning thr print settings.
@@qozia1370 sad owner of a qq-s pro. The linear rods also being the support structure really limits the accel. It mostly prints ok, I just have to manually wipe the nozzle with a tissue just before it hits the bed. Tuning linear advance on kipper is really important. If the values too high it doesn't extrude enough which pulls the extruded plastic off the previous layer. Costed more than an a1 mini with mods and repairs and prints slower and worse. But the build volumes higher and I can mod it to make it better (if I had a brain) :')
I'm with you. They SUCK!! I've got a core x y cube and a delta. both are sitting in a closet. I had 2 Creality3 V2 printers which work fine (upgraded a bit). I gave them away and bought a QIDI Q1 Pro and haven't looked back!! I really like that printer. I bought one for my son also. Haven't had one problem yet!
@@andyb7754 If choose corexy, will not consider qidi, choose reality or bambu . What are the advantages of qidi? It has nothing, it can't even compete with flashforge
I have both S1 and T1; 110 and 90 are the instantaneous flow rates they achieve at their maximum; S1's maximum constant flow is around 65, T1's maximum constant flow is around 55; for me, that's enough, I like them very much.
They're not even that. 90 and 110 are just the numbers you get if you multiply layer height times line width times *requested* speed. But they do the flow test with acceleration turned all the way down to 1000, so it doesn't even reach 40% of the requested speed.
Ha! Well this printer definitely has its own fan club... 😇 Joking aside I think the hardware is OK except for the fan noise. I really think FLSun needs to work on the software side of it.
I think the maximum flow rate number requires specific settings and FLSun's specific filament. I will say that if I slow the print speeds down to about 50 or 60% of the defaults, the print quality looks better. But I try to show what a manufacturer ships, both hardware and software, and the quality I was getting is what FLSun's settings were producing.
@@BV3D FLSUN also promotes their S1 with a max flow rate of 110 mm³/s which is false and based on a faulty max flow test that never reaches this value due to low acceleration settings. I think it's important to hold manufacturers accountable for the claims which are broadcasted everywhere in every product page.
@@BV3DNo, it's just a lie. See other comments for how they setup the lie. I do high flows and it's very clear from their hotend that it can't do over 40-45 mm³/s. Others who tested it found it started failing at 35 or so.
Good review, as always. It truly shows many details of T1. Looking forward to more exciting content .
Your channel is a goldmine for 3D printing enthusiasts!
Good review, as always. Your videos are where I send anyone new to 3D printing!
Thanks! 😊
Sometimes I need multi-color printing, I bought P1Swith AMS. Pursuing efficiency, I got my T1 2 months ago . In my opinion, the most important factors for 3D printing: speed, quality, multi-color; of course other factors are also important, ease of use, ecology, etc. So I chose bambu and flsun .
We are the same , T1 is my favorite printing tool.
Thanks for the honest review. No sugar-coating here! :o)
T1is a beast, when you use it to print a lot of models, you will understand why I say this
I have a T1 for a little over a month now and had little to no problems, the filament needs to feeded tru the holes of the cable clips to stop the coiling thing. Check your belt tension to stop the banding in z direction .sofar I have printed, PLA, PETG, ABS and TPE and they all work ok with the flsun slicer, fan speed can be reduced from 50 to 70% when printing around 400mm/s
Thanks for the tips!
I just ordered the T1 Pro and I will be printing PETG would love to know what settings you used to print your PETG and higher speeds. I use mostly Creality CR series and I’m told printing at 500mm/s is no problem with the right settings.
@dniezby you need higjspeed filament for those speeds. It can print fast but the model shape also dedicates speed.
Great video today, I've always wanted to try one of these types of printers. Thanks for sharing.
If T1 does better in terms of noise and software, then it will be a very impactful product . The current T1 has demonstrated its huge potential, it just needs to do better .
About noise , you can do some optimization yourself. As far as I know, flsun is also optimizing the noise. Because I have many printers printing together, I am not very sensitive to this aspect.
@@alborobleyou can't optimize noise.
Fan blade shape and rpm determine noise! Please don't lie about physics.
Thanks.
@@qozia1370 what about a silencer?
thanks for sharing
Good, honest review. Thank you
You're quite welcome. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video! I always watch your videos soon after they come up and I keep waiting/hoping for a new video from you with a new Bambu printer. Keep up the good work!
Good sir thank you. Love the review and would defiantly like to get my hands on one.
Glad I didn't follow through with this purchase. I was already turned off by the noise level but I think your right, that the company needs to pay more attention to quality vs speed. I love my Q5 but my next printer will be a Bambu A1 or the mini :)
I already have a vacuum cleaner 😂
I just ordered the T1 Pro and I print mostly print PETG. I couldn’t pass up the Black Friday deal. As for the slicer, now we have ver 2.02 and it’s pretty much Orca slicer. They have the Advanced settings available and all the calibrations parts etc. I think they heard you. 😮
Seems like this is not quite ready for prime time. It's funny, I have an old FLSUN Q5 that I got for super cheap, and it's actually been really solid. It does require regular care and feeding (and tends to go through extruders like candy...), but the print quality is generally good, and when operated within its limits, it's been a workhorse. I use it for high tolerance, utility type printing, and it's still chugging away after probably 30-35kg of PLA, PETG, and even some ABS through it. Delta printers are conceptually cool (not to mention oddly satisfying to watch), but in practice they just don't seem super practical for hobby or production use.
I had a Q5, and I liked it. I don't think it was trying to break any speed records, though. And I agree - Delta printers are 100% fun to watch!
Got mine ordered
Huge mistake.
Flsun printers start breaking after few months, the FB groups are full of people mentioning this
@@qozia1370 Ill see if i can find the groups
it also can't output 90mm^3 or go 1000mm/s, their claim to that is from a test file they made which, yes, does ask the printer to go that fast, but the prints geometry never lets the printer accelerate to anywhere near that speed. It's like asking any ender to print a zig-zag at 20'000mm/s with an accel of 1, and claiming it was doing 20K
This is exactly right. Someone got flsun to send them the "flow test" gcode, which confirms this.
Exactly! My flsun v400 never been able to do 400 mm/s.
Flsun always lie about the speed.
@@qozia1370 It can easily do 400 mm/s kinematic speed (probably 3-4x that too), but nowhere near the flow to keep up *printing* at that speed with 0.4 mm by 0.2 mm layers. Maybe with 0.1 mm layer height.
Good review, sounds like the Slicer needs work and the noise is too high.
Bryan you can get a upgrade kit for the turbo fan flsun s1 fan i have it take 7 days to get here from china to the UK work on the T1
So.... how do you really feel about it? chuckle. Good to hear an objective review.
So its a good review, but I am just baffled you didnt also talk about how the advertised speeds are about as made up as the build volume is. You just kinda glossed over that point.
Yup! Not even close to 1000mm/s
it doe's do timelaspes there a new firmware and a new slicer 2.2.0 now base on orca slicer
I would rather a printer manufacturer provide good profiles for Prusa Slicer \ Orca Slicer and\or Cura than waste their time rebranding their "own" slicer software. I don't use any of the four slicers that have been included with my printers.
Also, I agree about the max height thing. It's disingenuous for FLSun to base their max height on some theoretical cone rather than on the tallest cylinder you could print.
My theory is flsun printers are not plug and play. Keeping an flsun printer stock from the factory is a mistake. At the very least tuning thr print settings.
They are definitely not plug and play.
I have v400, it sucks even after tuning.
@@qozia1370 sad owner of a qq-s pro. The linear rods also being the support structure really limits the accel. It mostly prints ok, I just have to manually wipe the nozzle with a tissue just before it hits the bed. Tuning linear advance on kipper is really important. If the values too high it doesn't extrude enough which pulls the extruded plastic off the previous layer. Costed more than an a1 mini with mods and repairs and prints slower and worse. But the build volumes higher and I can mod it to make it better (if I had a brain) :')
Here is the truth, flsun printers suck, yes I own one, not this model but I do own one and I have not been able to tune out dimensional inaccuracy.
I'm with you. They SUCK!! I've got a core x y cube and a delta. both are sitting in a closet. I had 2 Creality3 V2 printers which work fine (upgraded a bit). I gave them away and bought a QIDI Q1 Pro and haven't looked back!! I really like that printer. I bought one for my son also. Haven't had one problem yet!
@@andyb7754 If choose corexy, will not consider qidi, choose reality or bambu .
What are the advantages of qidi? It has nothing, it can't even compete with flashforge
Exactly! I have v400 and they are really really really bad!
I have both S1 and T1; 110 and 90 are the instantaneous flow rates they achieve at their maximum; S1's maximum constant flow is around 65, T1's maximum constant flow is around 55; for me, that's enough, I like them very much.
They're not even that. 90 and 110 are just the numbers you get if you multiply layer height times line width times *requested* speed. But they do the flow test with acceleration turned all the way down to 1000, so it doesn't even reach 40% of the requested speed.
Enough
@@alborobleyou are flsun employee right? You keep defending them like a guard dog.
Not cool.
Think these printers a cool but you need lots of space to use one.
The footprint isn't too bad, but Delta printers sure are tall!
So would you say you're a big fan of this printer, or that it blows... a lot of air through its hose?
Ha! Well this printer definitely has its own fan club... 😇 Joking aside I think the hardware is OK except for the fan noise. I really think FLSun needs to work on the software side of it.
Well, well, wellllll subterfuge!
Lol even Thr simple cube has issues!
I bought flsun v400 and WI never buy anything from flsun ever again.
Very bad machines.
I'm going to pass on this one... Those issues you had don't suggest a quality unit. Especially for $600!
The print quality is pretty underwhelming, and marketing claims kind of outrageous.
90mm3/s flowrate? Yeah sure...
I think the maximum flow rate number requires specific settings and FLSun's specific filament. I will say that if I slow the print speeds down to about 50 or 60% of the defaults, the print quality looks better. But I try to show what a manufacturer ships, both hardware and software, and the quality I was getting is what FLSun's settings were producing.
@@BV3D FLSUN also promotes their S1 with a max flow rate of 110 mm³/s which is false and based on a faulty max flow test that never reaches this value due to low acceleration settings.
I think it's important to hold manufacturers accountable for the claims which are broadcasted everywhere in every product page.
@@BV3DNo, it's just a lie. See other comments for how they setup the lie. I do high flows and it's very clear from their hotend that it can't do over 40-45 mm³/s. Others who tested it found it started failing at 35 or so.
@@daliasprints9798 Do you have one ? Its flow rate is definitely about twice that of other high-speed printers. I have been using .