IRISH English and What Makes it Different

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  • @Langfocus
    @Langfocus  Рік тому +95

    I hope you like the video!

    • @ChrisFan890
      @ChrisFan890 Рік тому +3

      I can't believe you found my English! 😀

    • @TiffanyHan-sj4go
      @TiffanyHan-sj4go Рік тому

      😄

    • @bigfoxgamingbro7526
      @bigfoxgamingbro7526 Рік тому +3

      You should do a video on the Ulster-Scots dialects of the Anglic language Scots, which now has an army and a navy again!

    • @ДмитрийДобрый-щ7к
      @ДмитрийДобрый-щ7к Рік тому

      @@bigfoxgamingbro7526
      and also industry and agriculture.

    • @FrozenMermaid666
      @FrozenMermaid666 Рік тому +3

      Very interesting, I also use different forms for plurals, for example, you & yous as well as ye & yens, and these forms should also be used in standard English as plural forms should be different, and the form youse should be used as the form for the direct object, and now I will also be using the form yizzer as the possessive form, it’s a really good idea, so it should also be used in standard English, while your / yer should only be used with the singular you / ye - I am also learning the Irish language and the other modern Celtic languages, and also, Old Norse and Icelandic and Gothic and all other Germanic languages, and I am advanced level in Dutch and intermediate level in Norwegian / German / Swedish and writer level in English, and beginner level in most other languages I’m learning, and Irish & Scottish Gaelic are definitely the hardest languages I’m studying, being a category 3 language!

  • @JGrowl-er9md
    @JGrowl-er9md Рік тому +674

    I'm Irish. The video highlights, almost exclusively, the features of the Dublin dialect. While many are common throughout the country, most of the features highlighted are exclusive to Dublin, specifically, the Dublin working class.
    Great video. Really interesting to have our dialect and accent described with such expertise. Very well done.

    • @robertomacari501
      @robertomacari501 Рік тому +41

      Yeah as a Dubliner I was going to comment much of this vid is extremely Dub. Even at that it’s mad to hear just how different our English is haha. Always take it for granted. Have a girl from cork working with me and she always points out my Dublinese. My mother used to always try to correct my accent partially because her own mother was raised in the Uk and that accent was thought to be more upper class.

    • @JGrowl-er9md
      @JGrowl-er9md Рік тому +9

      @robertomacari501 Yep, the middle class to a fair degree, but definitely the old money speaks with more than a hint of an English accent. The horseshow at the RDS, the upper courts, hockey and tennis, and even rugby and golf clubs, often filled with semi-English voices.

    • @rdctd8690
      @rdctd8690 Рік тому +13

      Aye, tis a pretty good breakdown of Dublin ramblin' specifically. We've far too many variations across the country to sum up in a wee video like this. A Kerryman and Dub sit down to lunch, you need a multilingual waiter.

    • @CCc-sb9oj
      @CCc-sb9oj Рік тому +7

      ​​@@rdctd8690If they speak the dialects of their regions that is.
      The middle classes (particularly the younger women) speak almost the exact same dialect - Supraregional Irish English, which is essentially a middle class Dublin dialect in origin but no longer specific to Dublin as it spread rapidly via the media.
      Communities which remain tight-knit over many generations are the ones that retain their dialects more stably, so in this day and age it is mostly traditional working class areas and to a lesser extent certain rural areas that are retaining the unique dialects of Ireland for us!

    • @CCc-sb9oj
      @CCc-sb9oj Рік тому +3

      ​@@JGrowl-er9mdIf you're not from that part of Dublin it's actually very difficult to tell that class of Dubliners apart from private school English types, unless you hear the r or the t, which is the most distinctive difference between those dialects.

  • @cocazade7703
    @cocazade7703 Рік тому +256

    "Yer wan" for women and "Yer man" for men (or your one and your man) is a unique thing that we Irish say. I sometimes say it by accident with other nationalities and when I explain they think its strange. But I really like it. Its a really handy way to refer to someone we don't know the name of or their job/position

    • @dyslexicsoap7605
      @dyslexicsoap7605 Рік тому +11

      learned recently that "yer wan" actually came from "yer woman" and us young ones have bastardised it. don't care tho, it's "your one" now

    • @zerozedzaki
      @zerozedzaki Рік тому +12

      We also say so instead of then. We’ll meet up later so, instead if we’ll meet up later then.

    • @asemi4
      @asemi4 Рік тому +8

      Also "himself/herself" when referring to your spouse is a pretty Irish feature

    • @tirnan1004
      @tirnan1004 Рік тому +1

      Ya and I say me
      Im gonna get me keys
      Me self
      What can you do when u live in a ? Ik the answer do you?
      😂🤣🤣🤣

    • @tirnan1004
      @tirnan1004 Рік тому +3

      ⁠@@Edis12121ya what where you expecting if some whent to your country they would do the same there common sense saying

  • @martingomel1611
    @martingomel1611 Рік тому +407

    A note from an Irish painter and decorator "Let ye not be walking on the stairs until it's after drying". I've kept it for many years, it's just beautiful.

    • @fToo
      @fToo Рік тому +7

      presumably "da stairs" ?

    • @marietg8025
      @marietg8025 Рік тому +31

      My god this is just so Irish 🤣

    • @SirAntoniousBlock
      @SirAntoniousBlock Рік тому +15

      Now if ye go down road to ".......", ye've gone too far.

    • @RadicalCaveman
      @RadicalCaveman Рік тому +9

      @@fToo And "walkin'" and "dryin'."

    • @gearoiddom
      @gearoiddom Рік тому +8

      A lot of older Irish use a tagged-on “let you” (or ye if plural) to emphasise that they are speaking in the imperative. “Leave me alone, let ye”.

  • @SniperFire274
    @SniperFire274 Рік тому +124

    Irish dude here, I live and grew up in Ireland and have been all over the country, this video is highly accurate and clearly well researched. My only note is that this is a real Dublin way of speaking, which is uniquely Irish, but a bit different to the softer accents of much of the country. A really fun watch to have our accent broken down by it's defining features! An-mhaith!

    • @ireland2spain665
      @ireland2spain665 Рік тому +2

      Ar fad.

    • @DennisMSulliva
      @DennisMSulliva Рік тому +1

      My ancestors came from your country. I don't even know how to pronounce your last word.

    • @hello1868
      @hello1868 Рік тому +3

      @@DennisMSulliva Haha ya learn something new every day! An-mhaith means very good in Irish. It sounds kinda like “Ana Wah” when you say it

    • @VieiraFi
      @VieiraFi 11 місяців тому

      I find it interesting you say that, because you'd expect that Dublin had a softer accent, either because since it's the capital, they'd have ppl from all over the country, so arrive at a more "neutral" accent or even because it would have more foreigners (like english and other europeans) and a more "neutral" accent would make things easier, while ppl from the country could develop a "thicker" accent without much issues.
      But it's actually the other way around, which is very interesting.

  • @NMahon
    @NMahon Рік тому +180

    There are some loan words in English from Irish such as "galore" in English comes from "go leor" in Irish meaning "a lot".
    Also brogues like the shoes, broga is the Irish word for shoe.
    Smithereens, like when something smashes into a million pieces comes from the word smidiríní. I'm sure there are others as well

    • @paulwalsh598
      @paulwalsh598 Рік тому +9

      @qazaq-qyiat From late 19th century in the US, I dig it - Tuig me - I understand

    • @Sean-pm2vd
      @Sean-pm2vd Рік тому +12

      ​@qazaq-qyiatisn't the Irish word for whiskey, (uisce beatha)
      Which translates into, water of life.

    • @Sean-pm2vd
      @Sean-pm2vd Рік тому +3

      @qazaq-qyiat why would you say whiskey baha? That doesn't make sense even if you wanted to say that. That's saying whiskey life. Absolute jibberish.
      Uisce means water, beatha comes from the word bethu meaning life. Both words together mean whiskey. Uisce (Ìsca) on its own definitely doesn't mean whiskey. Kids in the west would be in for a serious shock asking their mother for water, only to be given a glass of whiskey.

    • @starlight8554
      @starlight8554 Рік тому +5

      @qazaq-qyiatthat’s not the Irish for water. It’s uisce.

    • @quibble4626
      @quibble4626 Рік тому +2

      @@paulwalsh598"Thuigim" would be a more common way of saying that. I'd say it came from "An dtuigeann tu?" which is the question form and sounds more like "dig".

  • @elainefoy5574
    @elainefoy5574 Рік тому +459

    I'm Irish and another dialectical grammar feature is the use of 'will' instead of 'shall' when offering to do something for someone, e.g. Will I switch on the heating to warm up the room? instead of 'shall I switch on etc. We call a cupboard a 'press', the hot-press is the airing cupboard. To 'do the messages' is to run errands but this may be something older generations would use. We use 'ye' to distinguish the second person plural you ' from 2nd person singular 'you', this is more common all over Ireland rather than the 'yiz' which is more common in Dublin. I enjoyed this video but have to say that a lot of it is more reflective of the local slang and grammar spoken in Dublin the capital. In the west of Ireland where I live we sometimes use the diminutive ending 'een' ( e.g. girleen, a biteen, for a little bit, a whileen, for a little while, at the end of some nouns which comes directly from the Irish language diminutive. It works like the Spanish 'ito' or 'inho' diminutive of Portuguese. Keep making such interesting content, I love your videos.

    • @cacamilis8477
      @cacamilis8477 Рік тому +38

      That diminutive "een" is something I really love about the way we speak English, because while most languages have a very common diminutive ending, English really doesn't. Sure, it has "y" or "ie", like "Pig - Piggy", but it doesn't always work. "Cannie" as in a small can, doesn't sound right, but a "Caneen" works fine. German has "-chen", Dutch has "-tje", Spanish has "-ito", Italian has "-ini", why not English?

    • @auldfouter8661
      @auldfouter8661 Рік тому +12

      A press for a cupboard is common Scottish usage too , as is " going the messages ".

    • @jonadabtheunsightly
      @jonadabtheunsightly Рік тому +7

      American English hasn't used the word "shall" (except in in period pieces to sound old-fashioned, and a couple of obscure industry-jargon cases, notably in certain types of legal proceedings) since some time in the nineteenth century. The only Americans who even know which contexts "shall" historically would have been used in (instead of "will"), are language nerds who have studied historical versions of English (principally, via Shakespeare and the KJV).
      The same is also true of "whom", "thou", "thee", "thy", "thine", "ye" (except when it means "the", as in "ye olde Newe Englande gifte shoppe"), "wherefore", "whither", "hither", "thither", the -eth and -est suffices on verbs, and the interjection "O", among other archaic features.
      However, we would generally say something like "Do you want me to..." or possibly "Should I ..." when making an offer to do something.

    • @xshayahyawzi3666
      @xshayahyawzi3666 Рік тому +9

      okay, so I watched a comedy sketch about dublish by foil arms and hog, it did have yiz and other features.
      It seems to me that irish english should be granted status now

    • @elainefoy5574
      @elainefoy5574 Рік тому +7

      @@xshayahyawzi3666 I saw this too and it's hilarious. I love Foil Arms and Hogg. I saw them live earlier this year.

  • @StarMonkies
    @StarMonkies Рік тому +163

    The accent and vocab section were particularly Dublin focused I would say but I didn't realise how much of the grammar features I use all the time without knowing they weren't standard English. "The most of/ the both of" I had no idea was not standard English. Fronting as well, is something I do all the time. I had no idea this was particular to Ireland
    I think "ye" is probably a more widely used plural "you" in Ireland rather than youse or yizzer which are more of a feature in Dublin and surrounding counties

    • @Togher01
      @Togher01 Рік тому +2

      I would say ye myself. However more people are from Dublin and youse. Half nearly half the population is there.

    • @dzzope
      @dzzope Рік тому +8

      @@Togher01 1.5 mil in Dublin county and 7 million on the Island(5 in the Rep).. I think your maths needs a bit of work.

    • @dzzope
      @dzzope Рік тому +12

      Absoulutely Dublin focused.
      There are plenty of characteristics that the whole Island uses but half of what was covered doesn't apply outside of Dublin and it's commuter belt, particularly on pronunciations and slang.
      Though to be fair, the alternative is to go county by county because we're all just a wee bit different.🤪

    • @Togher01
      @Togher01 Рік тому +2

      @@dzzope I was thinking of greater Dublin area which is about 2,073,459. Not quite half which was inaccrated for me to say. However my main point is that Dublin accent/speak is the most common in the country. As a man from the west of the country I do find this a little disappointing.

    • @ronaldobrien6870
      @ronaldobrien6870 Рік тому +1

      Gilbert O'Sullivan's hit song 'We Will' contains the lines "Take off your shoes / The both of yous". You can easily see his Irishness coming through there.

  • @thomasmarren2354
    @thomasmarren2354 Рік тому +173

    During my trip to Sligo, Ireland last summer one Irish English phrase I would often hear was "Thanks a million".

    • @CiaraOSullivan1990
      @CiaraOSullivan1990 Рік тому +43

      Thank you in Irish is "go raibh maith agat" but a more literal translation would be "may you have goodness at you". Thank you very much is "go raibh míle maith agat" or "may you have a thousand goodnesses at you". Míle means thousand but it's quite likely that the million in "thanks a million" comes from that in the same way as million in English is comes from the Latin mille which also means thousand.
      Another phrase in Irish that uses a number to add emphasis is "céad míle fáilte". Fáilte means welcome and "céad míle fáilte" means "one hundred thousand welcomes".

    • @b43xoit
      @b43xoit Рік тому +6

      That can also be heard in the US (sometimes ironically).

    • @AshArAis
      @AshArAis Рік тому +10

      tanx a mill feen x

    • @kingoffifa
      @kingoffifa Рік тому +5

      You’re welcome sham

    • @Caveirazul
      @Caveirazul Рік тому +1

      They don't say that in Dublin. It's like "super" that they say a lot in Limerick, but not in Dublin. I'm trying not to keep this irish slangs because they change a lot by county

  • @paddles_
    @paddles_ Рік тому +36

    This video is great! I'd just like to say the 'after perfect' is very similar to Irish. In irish, you would say "Táim tar éis (rud éigin a dhéanamh)" which means "I've just (done something)" but literally translates to "I'm after (doing something)"
    The same kinda goes for the 'extended now perfect'. In Irish you'd say 'Táim ag obair anseo ó bhí mé i mo dhéagóir' which means "I've worked here since I was a teenager", but literally translates to "I'm working here since I was a teenager."
    The and/while interchanging also occurs in Irish :)
    Brilliant video!

    • @dinkster1729
      @dinkster1729 Рік тому

      Those examples are very similar to constructions in Newfoundland English.

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 Рік тому

      This "I'm living here" is also a common construction used by native New Yorkers.

    • @anpleidhceeireannach9498
      @anpleidhceeireannach9498 5 місяців тому

      Well that's the.most.likely explanation of where this phrase comes from
      Lots of.hiberno Irish is just directly translated Irish,and itsa shame your man didn't focus more on this in his video

  • @SuperCrakker
    @SuperCrakker Рік тому +131

    A feature that creeps into Hiberno English is the fact we often dont answer with a yes or no. Those dont exist in Irish, and that has carried over to our English to a large extent.
    "Are you going to the shop?"
    "I am" ,as opposed to a simple "yes".
    "Did you get that in France?"
    "I did."

    • @jas1049
      @jas1049 Рік тому +6

      I think this tendency is dying out now, particularly in the big urban areas.

    • @blazebyrne
      @blazebyrne Рік тому +20

      @@jas1049 certainly not dying out in North Tipp and Limerick, I hear it used all the time, and I use it myself.

    • @vercoda9997
      @vercoda9997 Рік тому

      What utter nonsense. Who doesn't just say Yes or No to simple questions or matters? Absolute nonsense from you - pure blarney, possibly. I've never run into a fellow Irish (or Northern Irish) man or woman in the Republic or North alike who didn't constantly and routinely use Yes and No as part of their everyday conversation.

    • @dinkster1729
      @dinkster1729 Рік тому +3

      @@blazebyrne Not "meself?"

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 Рік тому +2

      Southern US speech uses this commonly, too.

  • @andrewg.carvill4596
    @andrewg.carvill4596 Рік тому +117

    "Yoke" is an interesting one. It almost certainly came from the yoke used to connect a horse to a horse drawn vehicle, which later came to applied to any contraption. The 'hames' was a part of the horse's yoke that it was easy to attach incorrectly, giving rise to another expression "he made hames of it", meaning he messed it up. "He made a right bloody hames of that yoke, and we were all morning putting it right again" was the kind of expression my father often used.

    • @lawLess-fs1qx
      @lawLess-fs1qx Рік тому +11

      thanks dude my parents constantly accused me of making a hames of things. Never knew the origin. Nova scotia parents.

    • @Conan_Hibernicus
      @Conan_Hibernicus Рік тому +7

      Yokes also has a specific meaning - ecstasy tablets. "Well lad, any yokes on ya?"

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno Рік тому +4

      Not only that, he made a hames of the yoke and now it’s banjaxed.

    • @user-lx3oi6xy2e
      @user-lx3oi6xy2e Рік тому +1

      Also ‘knacker’ on the horse theme haha

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno Рік тому +2

      @@TripodianTT People would say “Give us one of them yokes.” And always better to use vague terms with plausible deniability should porcine ears be eavesdropping.

  • @ZduffmanZ
    @ZduffmanZ Рік тому +1319

    I'm Irish and can confirm this is absolutely spot on! Fair play, good man yizz'rself.

    • @Ivaninho
      @Ivaninho Рік тому +22

      Английский - это язык ваших эксплуататоров

    • @誰でしょう-q4l
      @誰でしょう-q4l Рік тому +83

      @@Ivaninho Сказал эксплуататор Сибирии.

    • @mercilyngono8955
      @mercilyngono8955 Рік тому +90

      The accuracy is confined to Dublin working class english. Very little of what Paul put forward is applicable outside the traditional Pale area.

    • @BeginBye
      @BeginBye Рік тому +23

      @@Ivaninho 'Tis just a tool for communication it is

    • @slifer0081
      @slifer0081 Рік тому +11

      Are you really irish or 10% irish american?

  • @thescrewfly
    @thescrewfly Рік тому +276

    One feature I'm missing in this video, is the marked tendency among Irish English speakers to avoid using 'yes' and 'no' in response to direct questions. Q: Are you alright? A: I am. Q: Did you bring the book? A: I did. Q: Is it time to go? A: It is. Q: Have you seen her recently? A: I have not.
    I believe this derives from lack of specific yes/no words in the Gaelic, although I'm not 100% sure of that. I do wonder if this is still the norm among younger speakers as I haven't socialised with Irish people for quite some time now.

    • @davidemmott6225
      @davidemmott6225 Рік тому +6

      Like Welsh, though I'm not sure if Welsh English speakers do the same.

    • @TheMarafter
      @TheMarafter Рік тому +15

      Interesting and true... probably 'no' is more common, but to just respond 'yes' or 'yeah' could be a bit strange depending on the context!

    • @CCc-sb9oj
      @CCc-sb9oj Рік тому +28

      Yes and no are more common nowadays, but many people absolutely still have that tendency

    • @empedocles200
      @empedocles200 Рік тому +23

      It is 😅

    • @erinbriggs2087
      @erinbriggs2087 Рік тому +37

      Definitely derived from Gaeilge as it is standard to answer a question with the positive or negative of the verb. Example Ar ith tú? (Did you eat?) Answer : D'ith / Níor ith (I did eat / I did not eat)

  • @danielomalley4394
    @danielomalley4394 Рік тому +47

    A comparison of Irish English and that of Newfoundland English, which is rooted in the Waterford area would be interesting. This video is very well researched, as usual!

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому +4

      I must say that I have noticed that the *Wexford* English is very very quaint. They say things like "You may go and get a bottle of milk before the shops close", instead of "You *should* go and get a bottle of milk before..."
      When first I heard it, I laughed and made silly fun out of it: "You're giving me permission to go to the shop is it??"!!!

  • @DeirdreOByrne
    @DeirdreOByrne Рік тому +70

    Sláinte actually means "health". We use it during a toast to wish good health on everyone.
    Anyway I'd love to see how many definitions of "bollix(ed)" you can find. You'll probably miss more than a few! 🙂

    • @kaminachos5129
      @kaminachos5129 Рік тому

      I am fond of banjaxed too.

    • @AnthonyDonnellyTT
      @AnthonyDonnellyTT Рік тому

      Or... "Me ballix" lol

    • @oisinbiswas
      @oisinbiswas Рік тому

      is it not bollocks

    • @AnthonyDonnellyTT
      @AnthonyDonnellyTT Рік тому +1

      @@oisinbiswas Depends... "ballix" is lighter than "bollocks" - In my day at least... 80s Dublin, calling someone a ballix can be almost 'playful', but calling someone a "bollocks" carries more impact. My two cents.

    • @AnthonyDonnellyTT
      @AnthonyDonnellyTT Рік тому +2

      To add - They are the same word; it's purely a pronunciation thing.

  • @piaraismacmurchaidh4712
    @piaraismacmurchaidh4712 Рік тому +123

    I'm Irish and I always say "will" instead of "should". I'll say "Will we leave?" instead of "Should we leave?" and people will be confused as to why I'm questioning whether we're leaving at all, when what I'm really trying to communicate is that we should get a move on.

    • @PanglossDr
      @PanglossDr Рік тому

      I don't see the difference, should is also questioning?

    • @Maidaseu
      @Maidaseu Рік тому

      Funny as I'm Irish and I would never say that

    • @conorx3
      @conorx3 Рік тому

      @@PanglossDrthe problem is SHOULD they leave because they have already decided that they WILL leave eventually.
      “Will we leave?” “Yeah sure we will.” (Although agreeing, it could be some uncertain time in the future)
      “Should we leave?” “Ye we should”
      (Agrees, Time to go)
      it’s a small nitpick that i wouldn’t mind. it’s similar to someone asking “Can I go to the toilet” and responding “I don’t know, CAN you?” because they should be asking “May I”.

    • @PanglossDr
      @PanglossDr Рік тому

      @@conorx3 Should implies that there is pressure to leave.

    • @skdub22
      @skdub22 Рік тому +1

      We head?

  • @orlaithdepaor5467
    @orlaithdepaor5467 Рік тому +186

    Been living away from Ireland for 6 years and still didn’t realise so many of these grammar structures were Hiberno English! One that I only realised was an Irish thing recently is to say someone is “giving out” to mean they are telling you off for something that was done wrong. “I was late so my ma gave out to me” or “my mam was giving out to me cos I was late”

    • @admiralbrown9334
      @admiralbrown9334 Рік тому +25

      Yes, I was amazed when I found out this was unique to Ireland. It's very much standard speech for us, not slang at all.

    • @sitdowntwice
      @sitdowntwice Рік тому +5

      The aul lassy was giving out stink to me

    • @laryone
      @laryone Рік тому +12

      Giving out is lifted straight out on the Gaeilge "tabhairt amach"
      It's definitely a different kind of complaint 😊

    • @emmathefabulous
      @emmathefabulous Рік тому +10

      Also didn't know "giving out" wasn't a thing outside Ireland! Although I've not had many people ask me what it means because I think in the context it's usually used in, it's pretty obvious 😂

    • @drts6955
      @drts6955 Рік тому +12

      I didn't realise "amn't" is an Irish thing until Americans would laugh at me. It's sort of odd as there is isn't, aren't etc

  • @SeanFication
    @SeanFication Рік тому +214

    At least in Western Ireland, people still use the archaic English "ye", the plural form of "you".
    "Are ye going on holiday?" (said to a group of people) vs "Are you going on holiday?" (said to one specific person).

    • @slifer0081
      @slifer0081 Рік тому +5

      Especially those from Donegal 😂

    • @midtskogen
      @midtskogen Рік тому +10

      Actually, "ye" is the nominative (subject form) of the accusative (object form) "you". Older English has singular thou - thee and plural ye - you, but most English speakers got so polite and began addressing everybody in the plural. It's interesting though that "ye" and "you" are used to distinguish singular and plural, when they originally distinguished subject and object.
      Is it "have ye taken everything with ye" or "with you"?

    • @slifer0081
      @slifer0081 Рік тому +5

      @midtskogen Wrong. "Ye" is still used when addressing multiple people.

    • @midtskogen
      @midtskogen Рік тому +6

      @@slifer0081 Yes, did I say otherwise?

    • @gearoiddom
      @gearoiddom Рік тому

      To be honest what you wrote confused me as you began talking about nominative/accusative but then switched to talking about plural. Which is it?

  • @nishiochain
    @nishiochain Рік тому +21

    This video is really accurate! The dialect and accent here is a recognisable old-style North Dublin accent, for the most part.
    Other parts of the country - the more so the more you go westwards - would show much more influence from the Irish language, especially in loanwords. We often say ‘garsún’ for young man (from Norman French garcun, via Irish), ‘leaba’ for bed, ‘grá’ for love in some specific phrases (‘He always had a grá for the music’), etc. In Limerick, you will also hear ‘tackies’ for ‘runners / sneakers’, which is originally South African (apparently a local priest spent many years there and brought it back!)
    Another interesting thing to mention if we are including Northern Ireland, is the Ulster Scots dialect of Scots English found in the north of Ireland. Similarly, it occurred to me when you mentioned the different varieties of English present in Ireland in the 16th century, that Wexford was actually somewhat anglicised even before this, and that a variant developed from Middle English, Yola, was spoken there for centuries.
    Perhaps if there were time as well, the question of the Traveller language - with influence from English, Irish, and Roma, would be an interesting topic :)

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому +2

      Oh..........................!!!!
      You have just explained to me why people from Wexford sound so QUAINT!!!! "You 'may' do something" when anglophones would normally say "You *should*" or "You *ought to* do something".
      Even their accent, is it like Welsh or something?? It's the weirdest accent to my ears of all the counties, and I'm a Cork man.

    • @JRK2669
      @JRK2669 4 місяці тому

      There is no North Dublin dialect, there are various accents there depending on the town and the socio-economic status. Likewise on the Southside you have working class areas and middle class accents.

  • @JohnMcPhersonStrutt
    @JohnMcPhersonStrutt Рік тому +47

    I would argue that pluralising the word "you" is actually a very useful feature of language. (BTW i am from Belfast)

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому +4

      The word 'Ye' should never have been dropped and is reminiscent of the utter stupidity which we see today by the constant over-simplifying and abbreviating of the language. It is slowly losing its *precision* and thus its purpose. Language is necessary for comprehension. Precision brings greater comprehension, and though it takes a bit longer to learn, overall it makes life far easier afterwards.

    • @Tearseach
      @Tearseach Рік тому +8

      @@Sionnach1601 Funny enough, people say "ye" all the time in Ireland; especially if you go outside of Dublin, where you'll primarily here "yous".

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому +2

      @@Tearseach Oh we're in absolute agreement friend. I'm saying that the REST of the Anglophone world should never have dropped it. It's ridiculous. It is so extremely useful and time-saving.

    • @nomorokay
      @nomorokay Рік тому +1

      Yes, many or even most languages have a word for the second person plural. That English does not have it seems odd in a language that’s so useful most of the time. “Youse” has been mocked for decades as the usage of gangsters and illiterates, while the highbrow types among us have to use odd constructions to get around the lack of what is a very useful word/person. French has “vous”, Chinese has “nimen”, and English has ???.

    • @nomorokay
      @nomorokay Рік тому

      @@Sionnach1601
      English is in a state of flux at the moment, even more than usual. When I hear odd expressions being used by national TV news reporters and readers, I see that the new usage goes all the way to the top. Some of these expressions formerly used by semi-literates and now heard everywhere is “Where are you at in this project?”, and the disappearance of the indefinite article “an”. Apparently, it’s now acceptable to say “He has a idea, which I support, because he’s a engineer.” On prime-time news, no less.
      Do you remember how “the” would be pronounced “thee” before vowels, like “She’s thee expert.” It just makes the words flow better. It’s euphonious. I use that word while we still remember what it means. Anyway, the current pronunciation sounds like “She’s thuh expert.” Seriously. While listening to CBC Radio 1 in Canada, I heard a linguist explain that English is becoming more “choppy”, with more abrupt stops and starts. Also, spelling seems to be less important now. When you look at a full-page car ad on the back cover of a magazine, describing the latest model, and it has one or more spelling mistakes, you see what happens when large numbers of editors and proofreaders get fired or laid off/made redundant.
      Schools in Canada no longer teach phonics, so when kids see an unfamiliar word, they don’t know how it sounds. When I asked my daughter what she was taught to do when seeing a new word, she told me the teacher said “guess at it”. When people who have gone through high school and university without having been taught how to read properly, we get the results that we see every day. I could go on, but you get the idea. Imagine an online forum where new members have to be told not to use textspeak. Even when using normal English, some of their questions are indecipherable. How long until we line up for food and hear the person in front of us say, “Burgh an’ umshake.” I’d better stop before I get going about the lack of numeracy, and the university students who can’t do basic arithmetic in their heads. RANT MODE OFF.

  • @andrewg.carvill4596
    @andrewg.carvill4596 Рік тому +180

    Paul, as an Irish person I've enjoyed your videos for some years now. A good test of documentary videos comes when the person who made the video deals with stuff you're familiar with already yourself. Congratulations, you really nailed it, but from your usual high standard I'd have expected nothing less! Your examples mostly came from Dublin however, while Hiberno-Irish is very rich in the west and south of the country, where the Irish (Gaelic) language lasted as the main language of the people in rural areas until well into the 19th century.

    • @andrewbourke288
      @andrewbourke288 Рік тому +12

      Ya it's definitely Dublin focused. Especially most of the pronunciations, but that's acknowledged in the video

    • @CCc-sb9oj
      @CCc-sb9oj Рік тому +2

      It is rich among certain sections of society in the West.
      However large large cohorts of middle class people do not have regional dialects anymore at all and speak something closer to 'Supraregional Irish English' which originated in Dublin and spread (likely via the media and among younger women from the nineties onwards. Language/dialect change isn't uniform but men tend to lag behind women by a generation or two and thus retain dialect features for longer in situations of dialect levelling)

    • @mieslep
      @mieslep Рік тому +7

      @@CCc-sb9oj once we don't all start talking D4 English, we'll be grand...

    • @johnmc3862
      @johnmc3862 Рік тому +1

      ​@@mieslepToo roight!

    • @P1984-z5i
      @P1984-z5i Рік тому +1

      100% agree with the above, about half of it applies to the island of Ireland but the rest is North/inner city Dublin based. Be great to see other examples of West and South of Ireland as these I think will be more directly impacted by the Irish language. I'm fairly certain with the dos and be s as mentioned in this video is a direct correlation with use of the verbs in the Irish language. I always get corrected by my English cousins on that 😂

  • @j0hnegan
    @j0hnegan Рік тому +59

    Go raibh maith agat a Phól! That was great. The one I would add is "at". Sometimes people ask "what are you at?" meaning "what are you doing?" It's also common in Newfounland.

    • @biledemon85
      @biledemon85 Рік тому +1

      ​@@TripodianTT And commonly: "where you ah'?"

    • @louisrobertbrown
      @louisrobertbrown Рік тому

      Our version of this in (South- unsure of the rest of the country) Wales is 'where are you to' or where's that to', where standard English omits the 'to'

    • @Hsalf904
      @Hsalf904 Рік тому

      We’ve picked it up in Cape Breton from Newfoundlanders too! Most of the only English speakers on the island back in the day were Irish Newfoundlanders, they’re largely the people the Scottish Gaelic-speakers here learned English from

  • @jacenath8197
    @jacenath8197 Рік тому +400

    It’s interesting to note how this dialect (Hiberno-English), in addition to the influence of African languages, also impacted African American dialects spoken throughout the United States. Because of strong interactions and early intermixing between the two groups, the Irish left their mark on African American accents and some grammatical forms 💚

    • @CiaraOSullivan1990
      @CiaraOSullivan1990 Рік тому +29

      You should look up the black Irish of Montserrat.

    • @matiyas27
      @matiyas27 Рік тому +51

      the Irish and Scottish accent also left their influence on Jamaican and Barbados English Creole accents in the Caribbean.

    • @esioanniannaho5939
      @esioanniannaho5939 Рік тому +15

      A Good Reference is the Book Irish Slave Girl to show this interesting connection especially in Monserat. Their off spring spoke the Gaelic language. The term of Red Shanks refers to the Scots who were cleared off in the Highland Clearances by Guess Who 😮

    • @jonathanfinan722
      @jonathanfinan722 Рік тому

      @@matiyas27accents. Plural

    • @SirAntoniousBlock
      @SirAntoniousBlock Рік тому +14

      Irishisms have made it a lot further, the expression "deadly" has made it all the way with Irish immigrants and is commonly used by aboriginal Australians also of course "yous" is used in many places.

  • @typef_ce
    @typef_ce Рік тому +4

    Paul Durcan's poetry has wonderful hiberno-english examples. "Me and my lover used bicycle up to the phoenix park" - using 'used + infinitive' instead of 'used to + infinitive'

  • @MandNsvideos665
    @MandNsvideos665 Рік тому +70

    Honestly I think this is probably the best hiberno english breakdown I've seen on youtube.
    I'm actually quite surprised at how accurate you were in pointing out the many different shades and nuances that exist. I wouldn't go so far as to call them dialects tho 😂
    If there is something in between dialect and accent, then thats what we speak 😅

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 Рік тому

      "Honestly"

    • @MandNsvideos665
      @MandNsvideos665 Рік тому

      @@jamesmcinnis208 yeah, honestly. Whats wrong with that yank

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 Рік тому

      @@MandNsvideos665 What yank?

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 Рік тому

      "actually"

    • @MrBotanista
      @MrBotanista 8 місяців тому

      Some linguists use the term sub-dialect for varying speech patterns of the same language or dialect. Although, I don't think there is any internationally agreed upon definition for "dialect" and people tend to use the term differently.
      I suppose to some "Irish English" is a dialect of English and to others it's a language in its own right??

  • @truthiness2010
    @truthiness2010 Рік тому +37

    Very interesting video. I'm Irish and I use a lot of these. Most of the others I was aware of, but plenty I wasn't. Outside of Dublin a common plural for you is the old 'ye'. We use that a lot where I'm from, Kerry. For the possessive it's 'yer', pronounced yeer.

    • @richiehoyt8487
      @richiehoyt8487 Рік тому +2

      Absolutely correct, I was going to say this.

    • @Twilord_
      @Twilord_ Рік тому

      Ah fecking hell lads, me ma's Galway accent is why my Dublin ass uses "ye did/ye are" - is that what you're saying?

    • @crossemily
      @crossemily Рік тому +1

      I'm in Kildare, and we use 'yeh' as well. I also notice older people will say a word like 'owned' like 'own-did' like its two syllables. Maybe its just my area.

  • @mohamedallami7613
    @mohamedallami7613 Рік тому +46

    Is breá liom Éire agus muintir na hÉireann. Thank you for this instructive video.

    • @waterOW
      @waterOW Рік тому +1

      Hey I'm irish and never seen muintir before the translate button says it's "person"? i am blanking on what I'd use as "person" though

    • @maggieoneill3355
      @maggieoneill3355 Рік тому +1

      ​@@waterOWpeople

    • @hughanquetil2567
      @hughanquetil2567 Рік тому

      @@waterOW Muintir is people (members of a nation, ethnicity, etc). But it's also used by Irish speakers to refer to one's parents or family. As in "táim ag dul ar cuairt chuig mo mhuintir" (I'm going to visit my family).

    • @waterOW
      @waterOW Рік тому

      @@hughanquetil2567 ah that makes sense it maybe a dialect thing? I'm from limerick so i originally thought they misspelt múinteoir (teacher)

  • @ShaneDiffily
    @ShaneDiffily Рік тому +67

    I'm Irish and I noticed an interesting local dialect subjunctive feature in Co. Laois area (mid-east midlands area) about 10 years ago. Instead of saying - e.g. "you could ask my father where to find that", they always used the form "you MAY ask my ...". It was always "may" in place of "you could", "you can", "you should". Quite a nice feature and used by youth as well as older people.

    • @ablacknambercat
      @ablacknambercat Рік тому

      Another Laois thing is 'upon, they seem to have kept that word when the rest of us replaced it with on, 'the keys are upon the dresser'.

    • @TheDawnTreader1
      @TheDawnTreader1 Рік тому +3

      i'd say thats a midl;ands thing in general- my father's family are from westmeath its also used a lot there

    • @danieloloan8525
      @danieloloan8525 Рік тому +14

      Up here in the North we have an interesting relationship with the word "may". It's often used for recommendations that are a little more... 'stern' than how I've seen it used in other dialects😂e.g. "Is that you making that noise? Well you may stop it, it's doin' my head in"

    • @conormichaelfinlay5093
      @conormichaelfinlay5093 Рік тому +6

      "Ya may fuck off" is another Laois-ism

    • @peteymax
      @peteymax Рік тому +5

      @@danieloloan8525I hear you, in the southeast of Ireland ‘may’ means to have to, I may go now, It’s time to go, etc.

  • @TheSarcMark
    @TheSarcMark Рік тому +15

    Man, there are so many similarities between Irish English and African American English! For instance, the way we use "be" to talk about what someone always or habitually does, the use of "is" for plural nouns, using "them" for "those," and the use of the 3rd singular with the 1st person (although in AAVE the last one is usually done to add a particular tone to a statement rather being regular way of wording it).

  • @karlman1397
    @karlman1397 Рік тому +44

    The phrase “giving out” meaning to chastise is very common. Most non-Irish don’t understand its meaning.
    Very accurate video: I’ll slip into using some of these expressions if I’m excited or tired.

    • @Risingtide930
      @Risingtide930 Рік тому +1

      Billy Joel is aware of the expression. In the song ‘Always a Woman’ there is a line, “She never gives out and she never gives in, she just changes her mind”.

    • @nomorokay
      @nomorokay Рік тому +1

      The only place I’ve heard that expression is on “Mrs. Brown’s Boys”, but thanks for the Billy Joel reference. I’d wondered what he meant by that. Maybe he grew up in Brooklyn, where there were lots of Irish immigrants. In the movie of the same name, “Brooklyn”, the part about the miseries of crossing the North Atlantic by ship in the early 1950s brought memories of being seasick, although I was a small child at the time.

    • @IrishLadASMR
      @IrishLadASMR Рік тому +1

      We also say "give over" as in to stop something being done or said.

    • @nomorokay
      @nomorokay Рік тому

      @@IrishLadASMR
      Like, “Would you give over about that?”? Is that proper usage?

    • @IrishLadASMR
      @IrishLadASMR Рік тому

      @@nomorokay you'll hear parents saying to kids "give over doing that"
      or when in disbelief or surprise we say "ah give over".

  • @green4black
    @green4black Рік тому +42

    Other Irish-isms I picked up when I lived there: more frequent negative sentence constructions for questions: “Do you not know?” “Are ya not coming out wit’ us?”; the emphatic use of “so”: “That’s fine so”; “yer man” or “yer wan”: “Who’s yer man, the one from the pub?” - can be used to refer to someone whose name you don’t remember; “Come here”: “Brian, come ‘ere while I tell ya” - which doesn’t mean to approach them, just to pay attention; frequent use of “like”, especially by friends from Limerick “Ya know, like”; repetition of “Bye” at end of phone calls “ok, bye now - bye bye bye”. And so many others

    • @CiaraOSullivan1990
      @CiaraOSullivan1990 Рік тому +9

      One of my favourite sentences I've heard on more than one occasion is "Come here, will ya fuck off, will ya?"

    • @cacamilis8477
      @cacamilis8477 Рік тому +3

      C'mere, shtop, go 'way!

    • @drts6955
      @drts6955 Рік тому +3

      Just in case didn't know, yer man and yer wan are distinct in that refer to man/woman respectively

    • @green4black
      @green4black Рік тому +2

      @@drts6955 indeed, I did know that, but good to call out for those that don’t know.

    • @user-lx3oi6xy2e
      @user-lx3oi6xy2e Рік тому +2

      ‘Go on’ when saying bye haha. Also ‘is it’ after a question. ‘You’re from Canada is it?’ I find it endearing as an English guy living in Ireland. Also I’ve noticed everyone says there is with plurals and never there are. ‘There is coaches that will pick you up’

  • @lightbearer972
    @lightbearer972 Рік тому +81

    Interesting! I'm a native speaker of American English, but I speak proficient Spanish and I'm familiar with most other Romance languages to some degree. That said, the "be" perfect construction Paul mentioned immediately made me think of French or Italian (cf "Nous sommes allés" or "Noi siamo andati" for "We went," literally "We are gone"). Good work, Paul!

    • @puellanivis
      @puellanivis Рік тому +13

      It’s also very common in German: “wir sind gegangen,” (lit. we are gone) and since it’s the typical spoken/conversation past tense it gets a lot of use, and English-speakers have to really drill on it to not make mistakes.

    • @yakari_68
      @yakari_68 Рік тому +4

      the worst is in the expressions: in french we say "casser la tête" and "mortel", respectively for "wrecking the head" and "deadly", in a familiar way and exactly with the same meanings and in the same situations lmao

    • @PainterVierax
      @PainterVierax Рік тому +2

      Correct but French mainly use "have" as auxiliary verb for past tense to keep it distinct from the passive form. For example: "Tu as observé" compared to "Tu es observé".
      English kinda took this grammar rule and made it invariable whereas French kept using "to be" for intransitive verb. As for Italian conjugation, it seems similar but even more irregular and convoluted than French.

    • @christopherpoblete8562
      @christopherpoblete8562 Рік тому +3

      Probably celtic influence

    • @lightbearer972
      @lightbearer972 Рік тому

      @@PainterVierax Yes, I know. Spanish, the Romance language I speak, takes a different approach: it uses "tener" (cognate with "tenir" in French) to express possession. "Haber" (cognate with "avoir") is used only as a helping verb for compound tenses, as in "Tú has leído el libro" ("You have read the book.").

  • @Norplinger
    @Norplinger Рік тому +37

    Another one for you, if you ask an Irish person of they're going to do something and they say "I am yeah", that means they're not going to do it. Another thing I didn't realise was unique to Hiberno English until someone pointed it out to me, is that we often use "would have" to mean something that we definitely did, as in "I would have been going to school in the Liberties then" or "I would have had plenty of money at the time". This might be because there are no perfect tenses in Irish and although we have a word for "used to be" (bhíodh, pronounced vee-uch), it is similar to the word for "would" (bheadh, pronounced the same but with only one syllable) and they can be used interchangeably in many cases.

    • @hotbeefymcd8162
      @hotbeefymcd8162 Рік тому +6

      'I am yeah' is simply a popular sarcastic retort

    • @Norplinger
      @Norplinger Рік тому +2

      @@hotbeefymcd8162 It is, but it confuses people from other countries. Maybe they're just not accustomed to our advanced levels of sarcasm.

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому

      Your commentary on "would have" is very enlightening. I have always mused on why we would say that (did I just do it there?!?!)
      Is the word 'would' also used simply to give emphasis, or definite affirmation of rud éigin?? "I had plenty of money back then" Vs "I would have had plenty of money back then". It's like an added assurance that the recounting of a historical detail was without doubt, based on some unspoken reasons for the money in the speaker's mind, which is made palpable to the listener by the "would" have.
      Interesting. So much nuance.

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому

      Also, isn't the word 'bheadh' simply the conditional (future/possible) tense?? Whereas 'bhíodh' (being 'used to be') is most definitely a form of past tense.
      On reflection, I would say that your contention that 'would have' primarily derives from Irish is the most likely explanation. At the same time, was 'bhíodh' actually a very useful way of quickly describing a situation of 'definitely used to be because of some as-yet unspoken reasons in the speaker's mind'? I think it might be so.
      Anyway, great points. Thanks for your contributions to the conversation.

    • @Norplinger
      @Norplinger Рік тому

      @@Sionnach1601 "bheadh" has no tense, that's another interesting thing about it, it could mean "would have done", "would do" or it could be in the future. Irish has no perfect tenses, as I said, so to say "I have done" something you say "tá sé déanta agam" (literally "it is done at me"). I'm sure you are aware that there are lots of verbs that seem pretty essential in English (mar shampla: to have; to own; to know) that don't exist in Irish and are expressed with nouns + prepositions instead (tá sé/sí agam; is liomsa é/í; tá galar orm; tá a fhios agam; who needs verbs, huh?). Native Irish speakers who learned English as adults tend to retain this very roundabout way of saying things that Americans find so charming.
      I am only speculating about the strange qualities of the conditional in Hiberno English and I would love to hear any theories anyone else has about it. It's something I associate strongly with my grandparents telling stories about the Rising and the Civil War. It gives it this kind of ongoing narrative tone, almost removing themselves one step from the stories they were telling. You hear people of all ages from all parts of the country doing it.

  • @constantreader7483
    @constantreader7483 Рік тому +5

    Fascinating as always. I'd love to see a video on the northern dialect, i.e. Belfast, Derry, etc.

  • @Dragonborn2k
    @Dragonborn2k Рік тому +10

    Something you've missed and many Irish might also miss is "Well". We will always say "Well" when we want to say hello. It's often followed by "How are ya", or "Howrya now". ie. "Well, howrya now?"
    I'm certain this has been derived from the Irish word bhfuil, which is a complicated word used in many contexts that is typically used when asking someone a question, but addressing yourself or a thing in the sentence. (Very little Irish as most Irish do)
    But if you want to say hello like an Irish person, say "Well".

    • @sean_d
      @sean_d Рік тому +1

      This is true in an area centred on Tipperary for definite but not universal.

  • @scarcelyjumpy7613
    @scarcelyjumpy7613 Рік тому +10

    About the tis, I'm from Leinster in Ireland outside Dublin and I don't know how common it is but I and a lot of people drop ti from tis and just start a verb with 's for example, instead of "tis raining outside" I might say "'sraining outside".

  • @gavinhillick
    @gavinhillick Рік тому +48

    Grand job, Paul!
    Another feature of traditional Dublin accents is pronouncing some diphthings and long vowels as two distinct vowels, so that "huge" (likely with a slient h) rhymes with "sewage". You might also hear consonant clusters broken up with a schwa or syllabic consonant, e.g. child-(e)r-en, fil-(i)m, wor-(i)m etc.
    They both have analogues in the Irish language, though they seem to be disappearing with the older generations as the accent becones less distinct from other English varieties.

    • @derekscanlan4641
      @derekscanlan4641 Рік тому +4

      Haha! this is total Dublin

    • @naufalzaid7500
      @naufalzaid7500 Рік тому +1

      Iinm, in many Dublin accents, there's also no FOOT-STRUT split so that words like "look" and "luck" are still pronounced identically

    • @lugo_9969
      @lugo_9969 Рік тому +2

      Ah yes, did ya see da man on da moon ( pronounced moowin )

  • @Dragiceoriginal
    @Dragiceoriginal Рік тому +48

    I’m kinda surprised you never touched on “give out” - it’s probably the most commonly used phrase here, that foreigners just do not understand intuitively!

    • @kor86
      @kor86 Рік тому +3

      Give out is my favourite Irish English. I'm not Irish but I use it to confuse people deliberately.

    • @StarMonkies
      @StarMonkies Рік тому +8

      That is a phrase that is so commonly used here that I never thought about how strange it actually is. It must make no sense to anyone outside of Ireland

    • @mairnealachamu
      @mairnealachamu Рік тому +4

      Tabhairt amach!

    • @jameswalker68
      @jameswalker68 Рік тому

      So what does it mean?

    • @Dragiceoriginal
      @Dragiceoriginal Рік тому +3

      @@jameswalker68 it’s like “complain directly to”. Imagine you’ve done something to make your mother mad, and she yells at you. We’d call that “giving out”.

  • @polemeros
    @polemeros Рік тому +4

    I had 3 grandparents who were born in Ireland or were children of Irish immigrants (the 4th was Scandinavian). A lot of this reminds me of how they spoke when I was a kid back in the 50's, with what we called a brogue.. And the US-born grandparents would sometimes code-switch into how their parents spoke. My grandmother would sometimes refer to her husband ironically as "himself." And he pronounced the word cathedral as cat-heedrul. This vid brought back memries, it did.

  • @mary-kittybonkers2374
    @mary-kittybonkers2374 Рік тому +6

    I was told by my Australian friend in the 90s that I speak the variety of English that is spoken in Ireland, I was surprised that it was so obvious. I was born in the North West of England but was brought up in an Irish household and was educated by Irish sisters/nuns; I obviously picked up vocabulary and dialect from my family and at school; this included idioms too. My dialect has changed since then because of the influences of social media, television, friends, family and work. These also included influences from the rest of the UK, New Zealand, Australia, US and Canada.

  • @ynethlwo
    @ynethlwo Рік тому +31

    I'm so glad to finally see Irish English being spoken about like this! I have been living in Ireland for nearly 10 years now, and boy do I love the way people speak here. 🥰

    • @ShizuruNakatsu
      @ShizuruNakatsu Рік тому +3

      Ah yeah, sure it's grand like 😂

    • @tworivers3518
      @tworivers3518 Рік тому +2

      I have had a dream that someone will make an Irish version of 'Grand Designs'.
      "You are not leaving my house in this state!"
      "Agh, sure tis grand."

    • @dzzope
      @dzzope Рік тому

      @@tworivers3518 I'm prety sure there is.. And it goes about as well as you'd imagine IIRC🤣

  • @nedwindoorknob
    @nedwindoorknob Рік тому +38

    I’m currently studying linguistics and my syntax professor knows welsh so he gives us a lot of welsh examples in class. It’s really cool to see a lot of similar syntactic features in the Celtic family and how they get translated into an English dialect

    • @fiachoconnor
      @fiachoconnor Рік тому +2

      ​@MajorCharlesCarringtonVC that's very interesting! I never knew that.

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому

      @MajorCharlesCarringtonVC Thanks very much for that. Very interesting. Always wondered, and always strongly disliked the more classist "Mum" ugh!

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому

      That's actually very interesting, bordering on fascinating!! Can you please give us some examples??

  • @PockASqueeno
    @PockASqueeno Рік тому +40

    It blows my mind how such a small area of land can have so many dialects. I live in the southern USA, which is like ten times the size of Ireland, and we all basically talk the same-you have to drive hundreds of miles to the north or Midwest to start hearing other accents/dialects. But in Ireland or Britain, you only have to walk down the road to hear a new accent!

    • @ofaoilleachain
      @ofaoilleachain Рік тому +12

      Well, we're quite tribal per county, and the way we speak english in our areas now is directly related to how we spoke Irish

    • @19erik74
      @19erik74 Рік тому +3

      You can hear plenty of dialect variation in the south. Low country South Carolianians sound different than those in the piedmont and high country just in a single small state.

    • @PockASqueeno
      @PockASqueeno Рік тому

      @@19erik74 I’ve never been to SC, but here in TN pretty much everyone talks the same. I guess East TN is just slightly more “country” than the rest of the state, but it’s not really a big difference.

    • @kittyadventuresvlogs
      @kittyadventuresvlogs Рік тому

      Bc we in the US speak English due to colonization, our ancestors only learned one kind of English

    • @PockASqueeno
      @PockASqueeno Рік тому +5

      @@kittyadventuresvlogs I’m not sure if I buy that argument. Colonization should cause more dialectal variation, not less. The original English speakers in the USA were exposed to so many indigenous languages and tribes. Plus with the USA being the melting pot, we English speakers with British ancestry have been exposed to Italians, Germans, etc. Yet there’s far less cultural diversity in Ireland and the UK, ethnically speaking, yet there’s more dialectal differences.

  • @gabhanachdenogla8342
    @gabhanachdenogla8342 Рік тому +4

    My partner and I are in our 40s - when she first met my grandfather, she couldn't understand one word he spoke, even though shes from Tipperary and we are from Cork. He used many old words with the sentence structure of Irish. He used a word 'scut' when referring to a bold person - I later learned it's from Fingallian an early form of English spoken in Ireland in the Middle Ages. Glad to say Irish is alive and well in our household today and many of our friends are speaking it again - the old stereotype of the language being connected with poverty is dead and buried, thankfully. Thanks for the video.

    • @tworivers3518
      @tworivers3518 Рік тому +1

      I went on a college trip to northern England a good few years ago. I had to slow right down when speaking with locals. They told us it was rude to speak Irish to one another in their presence. I said that I agreed it would be, but none of us could speak Irish. (Edit: We were from Clare / Galway / Mayo by the way).

  • @papamurrth1
    @papamurrth1 Рік тому +4

    I'm Scouse and we use similar vocabulary, such as ropey, class, lethal, youse, and the d sound and the plural subject being used, and a lot more

    • @revolution1237
      @revolution1237 7 місяців тому

      It's no coincidence why. A lot of Irish people immigrated across the Irish Sea to Liverpool, where they then either stayed or left to go somewhere else, mostly to North America but also Oceania and Southern Africa. That's why you sound similar to someone from Cork, for example. Fascinating, isn't it?

  • @emermurphy6230
    @emermurphy6230 Рік тому +17

    Thanks for this!! There's a load of these that i don't use at all and never heard of. One thing i'd add is that 'youse' is primarily in Dublin and the north - most of the rest of the country says 'ye'. I love a bit of Hiberno-English, thanks for coming through for us 😊

    • @barry649
      @barry649 Рік тому +1

      Yup, we definitely say ye a lot!

    • @CiaraOSullivan1990
      @CiaraOSullivan1990 Рік тому +4

      I was taught ye as the plural form of you in school.

    • @cacamilis8477
      @cacamilis8477 Рік тому +2

      I was about to say that, yeah. Only Dubliners say "Youse" or "Yis", the rest of Ireland tends to say "Ye".

    • @gearoiddom
      @gearoiddom Рік тому +3

      I think ye is rooted in the Elizabethans of the West Country. Makes sense when you consider the Munster plantation. Yous features more in Belfast and Dublin. Probably derives from Lowland Scots and the Ulster plantation.

    • @JRK2669
      @JRK2669 Рік тому

      Dubs also say yiz when referring to a group, see yiz later

  • @michaelflattery2298
    @michaelflattery2298 Рік тому +22

    I'm from Galway in the west of Ireland and there's definitely some of these features in use but quite a few differences as well.
    For example, we have a plural second personal pronoun but it's "ye" (pronounced to rhyme with "see") instead of "youse". The contractions using it can be especially difficult for foreigners to parse, e.g. "Did you (plural) see him" gets pronounced like "Jee see'm?" Weirdly I once had a roommate from Pittsburgh who tried to mystify me with "Pittsburghese" which he was shocked to find I could understand perfectly because it was so similar to my dialect of English. E.G. "jeet-jet" is the pronounciation for "Did you eat yet?"
    Also, in contrast to pronouncing dental fricatives as plosives (which is very typical in e.g. Dublin) in the West you do pronounce them as fricatives and even go further with coronal plosives sometimes "softening". Some of that is pretty normal, a "t" or "d" sound turning into a "ch" or "j" sound in contexts you see in plenty of English dialects but some are... weirder. An example that has provided non-Irish friends a lot of amusement is that when I'm not watching my pronunciation the "t" at the end of "what" or "that" turns into a sibilant sound that can vary from something like "whash" or "thash" to something so forward in the mouth it basically comes out as a whistle like I was a child whose front teeth had fallen out - wha*whistle*?!
    If I had to guess, that contrast between pronuciations of dental sounds is probably a borrowed feature from Irish as well. The Irish language doesn't really distinguish between dental plosives and dental fricatives, they're both realisations of a "broad t" or "broad d" (as opposed to the "narrow t" or "narrow d" which are pronounced like the affricates "ch" or "j") so depending on your dialect you tend to use one realisation over the other (excepting some consonant clusters). Afaik, the dialects of Irish that don't use dental fricatives line up with the varieties of Hiberno-English that don't pronounce dental fricatives.

  • @johnmackenreillytag
    @johnmackenreillytag Рік тому +7

    Just after seeing this on my feed, should be class.

  • @michealomainin
    @michealomainin Рік тому +11

    The number of Irish language loan words in Hiberno-English differs massively from place to place. Where I live, where Irish was the community language until 80 years ago, there is a massive amount of Irish language loan words still in use.

    • @nomorokay
      @nomorokay Рік тому

      You don’t live in Montserrat by any chance, do you? There used to be many Irish people living and working there, but most of them left years ago. Irish skin and tropical sun don’t mix well. I can get burnt sitting in a car with the windows rolled up. When driving north from California, I have to put on the left sleeve of a jacket to protect my arm from getting roasted.
      Bob Marley’s accent had a bit of Irish to it. To my ears, anyway.

  • @sudosert
    @sudosert Рік тому +28

    As somebody from Belfast, what I love about this video is that half of the things he mentions are things I do everyday and the other half is totally foreign. Honestly you could probably do a full video on Irish regional accents alone.

    • @nialler78
      @nialler78 Рік тому +3

      Major Scots influence up your way, my mam is from Belfast, living in Dublin 45 years and she's never been influenced by the accent here. She'll still regularly come out with things like "he's away like a lilty"

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому +3

      I think it has been officially stated that we have MORE regional accents per capita than any other country in Europe, so you're dead right there a chara

  • @frjoethesecond
    @frjoethesecond Рік тому +18

    Thanks for doing this video. You did a great job touching on many of the common features.
    As Irish English gradually (and very sadly IMO) dies off as a distinct variety, this sort of video will be important for understanding older recordings of Irish people speaking English.

    • @RisteardOhA
      @RisteardOhA Рік тому +2

      I don't think it's dying off at all

    • @cigh7445
      @cigh7445 Рік тому +4

      ​@@RisteardOhAIt depends on what you would define as 'dying'.
      With the spread of features from New Dublin English becoming widespread nationwide over the last few generations it is not inconceivable that the dialects of Ireland are being levelled and replaced by the speech from the capital (the kind of dialect spoken by the vast majority of newsreaders, radio personalities and tv show hosts on RTÉ and Virgin Media).
      This happened in New Zealand, a similar sized country to Ireland which was once diverse dialectically, but today nearly everybody speaks a more 'standard' New Zealand dialect, which was once only spoken in Auckland.

  • @authormichellefranklin
    @authormichellefranklin Рік тому +42

    You say begrudgery, we say "notions" 😅 Another fun one is the "so cleft" as in, "Will ye not go to the show?" "I will so." Many of these features exist in Newfineese.

    • @krombopulos_michael
      @krombopulos_michael Рік тому +4

      Notions is definitely the more widely used and understood word. Everyone understands the idea of notions.

    • @cacamilis8477
      @cacamilis8477 Рік тому +1

      @@krombopulos_michael Oceans of notions like Bono!

    • @oisinoc
      @oisinoc Рік тому +1

      If a woman answers in the affirmative with "fine, so" you going to regret whatever it is you just did or said...Incidentally I used to work with a Newfie who would say "Whats that now?" if he didn't hear you. He was a lovely fella but the first few times he said I thought he was picking a fight 🤣

    • @andrewg.carvill4596
      @andrewg.carvill4596 4 місяці тому

      Begrudgery doesn't so much mean having notions as being (Irish) culture's antidote to having notions. If the begrudger hears anyone or anything being praised, their primary urge is to knock the person or the thing (verbally) as swiftly as they can. Begrudgery is a national vice in Ireland. The only slightly positive thing about Irish begrudgery is this, that if you get notions about yourself here, there'll always be someone willing to disabuse you of the said notions fairly rapidly. It also acts as a fairly corrosive solvent to the development of a social caste system.

  • @jontalbot1
    @jontalbot1 Рік тому +4

    I heard someone say “fillums” the other day, instead of “films”. Always liked that one

  • @LimaFoxtrot_98
    @LimaFoxtrot_98 Рік тому +3

    I’m English and also American but I love the way the Irish speak. Some of the wittiest/sharp people I have met too.

  • @FTrainProductions
    @FTrainProductions Рік тому +54

    I always loved the way the Irish speak English. I can see where the Jamaican varieties of English got their influence from.

    • @derekscanlan4641
      @derekscanlan4641 Рік тому +13

      I've always noted similarities between Irish and Jamaican English

    • @FairyCRat
      @FairyCRat Рік тому +18

      ​@@derekscanlan4641It's indeed not a coincidence. A lot of Irish settlers used to live in Jamaica and intermixed with the majority black population.

    • @SzczeryPoliglota
      @SzczeryPoliglota Рік тому +3

      Dem influences are clear

    • @CiaraOSullivan1990
      @CiaraOSullivan1990 Рік тому +9

      You should look up the black Irish of Montserrat.

    • @fintonmainz7845
      @fintonmainz7845 Рік тому +3

      @@CiaraOSullivan1990 indeed. They speak with a Cork accent.

  • @yinwithkatie
    @yinwithkatie Рік тому +62

    Yay! I’m excited for this one. I didn’t know Irish English was actually a thing… makes sense though with the way we do be speaking in Ireland! 😉

    • @johnmc3862
      @johnmc3862 Рік тому +1

      'You know the way you'd usb!'😂

    • @tworivers3518
      @tworivers3518 Рік тому

      We do be doin' dat, so we do for sure

  • @amotaba
    @amotaba Рік тому +43

    You could talk about african portuguese (🇦🇴 🇲🇿 🇨🇻🇬🇼) and what make it different from portuguese from 🇵🇹 and 🇧🇷

  • @thebigpicture-elpanorama
    @thebigpicture-elpanorama Рік тому

    Yer spot on with your Hiberno English. I'm gonna tell all me friends about this video. I'm just after watching the whole thing. Fair play to ya!

  • @Ophelia771
    @Ophelia771 Рік тому +9

    In south east Wexford we had another dialect called Yola. In local areas especially with the older generation there are still such oddities left behind even with very little of it remaining. The last known speaker died in the 90s.

    • @Gallowglacht
      @Gallowglacht Рік тому +1

      That is right, there was a similar Anglic language/dialect in North Dublin too - called Fingallian, but it did not survive as long as Yola.

    • @goaway7272
      @goaway7272 Рік тому +1

      Everyone in wexford knows at least 1 yola word - quare!

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому

      I was wondering for a long long time why Wexford people sounded so bloody ODD!!! I'm from Cork, but to my ears, there is no stranger Irish accent than the Wexford one. Also ye use very strange (quare strange!!) expressions like "You may go and start the dinner" rather than "You should go" or "You ought to go" etc.
      I must look up 'Yola' so. It probably explains why ye sound so very different to nearly every other county.
      God bless :)

    • @goaway7272
      @goaway7272 Рік тому +1

      @@Sionnach1601 we find cork and kerry accent hard to understand lol but yeah even when it's not actual yola words we still have some structures and semi yola/English thrown in most of us are so used to it we don't even know it's yola

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому

      @@goaway7272 Haha! Oh don't get me wrong: Wexford accent is a nice accent; but it sounds very 'old', like very old, quaint, rustic English, like early Medieval times or thereabouts.
      It's also, to my ears, very different to nearly every other county South of Kildare/Wicklow.
      It's very interesting though, and just hearing now about this 'Yola' dialect brings some enlightenment for me.
      I will check it up.
      Sláinte ☘☘🇨🇮🇨🇮

  • @invisiblewizard2538
    @invisiblewizard2538 Рік тому +14

    Great video, thanks!
    Couple of stereotypical / cliché Irish-English phrases you missed out (possibly because they're less common now, except among non-Irish folks trying on an Oirish accent for laughs): -
    "To be sure", and "Not at all", for standard English "Yes", and "No" (or maybe more strictly as an affirmative agreement, a negation phrase).
    I'm told that these come from the Gaelic having no single words for Yes and No.

    • @popland1977
      @popland1977 Рік тому +9

      Not at all is definitely still used a lot

    • @CiaraOSullivan1990
      @CiaraOSullivan1990 Рік тому +3

      ​@@popland1977 I'm always using it.

    • @cacamilis8477
      @cacamilis8477 Рік тому +3

      Also, because Irish has no word for "Yes" or "No", you have to say answer questions like this:
      "Did you write your letter?"
      "I wrote."
      Which is why in Irish English it's very common to hear
      "Did you do the dishes"
      "I did."

    • @wildstarfish3786
      @wildstarfish3786 Рік тому

      I think that's because they've become common in standard English as well I've definitely heard not at all be used as a more specific version of no and also recognise to be sure but can't put my finger on what it's used for

    • @Epiph5
      @Epiph5 Рік тому

      ​@@popland1977And it's pronounced "Noh (h)a tall".

  • @puma1304
    @puma1304 Рік тому +15

    I am partly Irish, with Spanish (Latino) mother tongue and good proficiency in American English (in younger years also confronted with the Australian variant) and from this background I had the feeling that some Irish expressions have a similar structure as romance languages, or that the way to express things is often similar to the way we use our Spanish (the be perfect, etc)... I was in Ireland last week and realized that the Kerry dialect (my origins) was the easiest to understand, while in Dublin I had to sometimes ask twice in order to get the message... I did enjoy this video, Langfocus is always very interesting!

    • @CCc-sb9oj
      @CCc-sb9oj Рік тому +1

      The Kerry dialects are beautiful, musical.

  • @RobertMurphy-sx8lc
    @RobertMurphy-sx8lc Рік тому +9

    I grew up in Sydney, Australia, and had an Irish grandfather and a German grandmother (father's parents) so many of these points are well known to me. And the German also helped me. I lived in Germany for 5 years.

  • @teresaellis6666
    @teresaellis6666 Рік тому +2

    I was educated out of these, but love them. So very Irish, thanks

  • @oisinflynn7046
    @oisinflynn7046 Рік тому +4

    I love the channel - I’m Irish from Dublin and did my thesis on Irish English. There is so so so much more to Irish English than is covered here but I appreciate it’s a whistle stop tour. We directly translate a lot of phrases eg. We give out (complain) which comes directly from “tabhair amach” also really interesting final clause “like” . It was good like. This video seems to purely focus on one of the Dublin dialects phrase wise. I’d love to speak to you about it because it’s so rich and there’s lot more to it especially with influence of the Irish language and also old English “ye” for the plural form of you. I could go on. Again I love the channel but this doesn’t cover Irish English as a whole

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  Рік тому

      Thanks! Yeah, I can probably add new videos about additional regional varieties (like Cork etc.). I’ll probably do that sometime. My channel just moves kind of slowly because my production workflow is quite complicated.

  • @naufalzaid7500
    @naufalzaid7500 Рік тому +7

    Woah, I've always wanted to see a video made by you on Irish English after I saw K Klein's video on the TH sounds in Irish English. Can't wait!

  • @jonathangarza3386
    @jonathangarza3386 Рік тому +14

    I now understand where the Boston accent in American English came from. I've also heard some Irish elements in the English of the American South.

    • @overlordnat
      @overlordnat Рік тому

      You like to hugely exaggerate how ‘Irish’ you are in America but your accents are clearly FAR more influenced by English ones than Irish. You forget that Britain used to have far more rhotic speakers in the past than it does now, and we still are rhotic in some places, and you’re overlooking the non-rhoticity of the Boston accent in any case. Also in the American South people speak with ‘I-monophthongisation’ like in Northern England and even to a lesser extent in some parts of the (English) Midlands - for example “A nice night for a knife fight” becomes “A naas naat for a naaf faat” with a lengthened ‘a’ or sometimes ‘o’ sound instead of the usual diphthong.

    • @MrSchizoid405
      @MrSchizoid405 4 місяці тому

      @@overlordnat Nonsense Boston english is heavily influenced from Irish english.

  • @johnfoster6412
    @johnfoster6412 Рік тому +34

    "Deadly" meaning "really good, excellent" is also found in Australian Aboriginal English. I wonder if it's connected to the Irish usage, given the large number of Irish immigrants (both convict and free) here in the 19th century.

  • @Laura-Be717
    @Laura-Be717 Рік тому +5

    Very very specific to Dublin, would love to see you look at more western language (I.e galway/cork) each county in Ireland has marked differences in grammar and vocabulary. It’s a linguistic minefield which is exceptionally interesting - the same can be said for Gaeilge, which in and of itself has very different vocabulary and slightly different grammar structures depending on where you are in the country. For such a small country it’s really a huge rabbit hole I think you would really enjoy exploring.

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому

      I think I heard it officially stated that we have MORE dialects / accents *per capita* than anywhere else in Europe..

  • @maveybabyMD
    @maveybabyMD Рік тому +3

    Loved this- such a good overview 😁 I’m Irish and from the west - I’m bilingual and was educated through Irish, although I use english almost exclusively in work and most of my social interactions nowdays. A couple of things I’ve noticed I do (my attention drawn to it by your class video!) “**** is my name” rather than “my name is…”. “How are you keeping?” Is my greeting. “Don’t be looking at me like that!”. “Ara…”- now this is proper Culchie English (culchies are those of us from the country- it’s a pejorative term from Dubliners 🤨). Ara is hard to define. It’s like a verbal shoulder-shrug. “Do you think you’ll go to that party?” - “ara I can’t be arsed!” You have to toss your head sharply upwards when you say Ara.

    • @CCc-sb9oj
      @CCc-sb9oj Рік тому

      Yerra never mind the jackeens

  • @frankfrank7921
    @frankfrank7921 Рік тому +54

    You sort of touched on this but I'll expand on it. My father, who was Irish/French, grew up in an Irish American neighborhood. He told me that whenever the "man of the house" walked by you'd often hear someone say "there goes himself". Also, it appears American English got the article "the" from Irish English. A Brit would say "I'm going to market" whereas we would say "I'm going to THE market". Lastly my wife, who is from Panama, learned her English initially from her Jamaican grandmother. She to this day will use the "i'm goin to market" or "I'm going to Post Office" forms. Hope I didn't bore anybody.

    • @TomBrzezicki
      @TomBrzezicki Рік тому +1

      Slightly related, I have the impression that Americans are more likely to refer to "The Home Depot", whereas here in Canada we're more likely to say just plain "Home Depot"; as in, "I got it at Home Depot".

    • @Iamtheliquor
      @Iamtheliquor Рік тому +2

      In north west England we’d drop the “to” and say “I’m going the post office” etc

    • @frankfrank7921
      @frankfrank7921 Рік тому

      @@TomBrzezicki Perhaps it's regional, here In southern California, I have only heard "Home Depot", never a "the".

    • @hello1868
      @hello1868 Рік тому +2

      Don’t know if this applies to the rest of Ireland, but here in Dublin (North Dublin at least) you’d hear some people do away with the “to” and “the” completely like “I’m going school on Monday” or “I’ve to go Post Office later, d’ye wanna come with?” or “I’m after goin’ town yesterday” or “Did ye hear about Siobhán having to go hospital? Was having stomach pains she says”

    • @TomBrzezicki
      @TomBrzezicki Рік тому +2

      I fell in love with “An Cailín Ciún” this past spring, and began looking online for information about the making of the film, its locations in County Meath, and the importance of it being in the Irish language. In the process of looking into things Irish, I was amazed to discover that “the island of Ireland”-that’s how I usually found it referred to, not the country or the nation of Ireland-had so many variations in regional dialects. I’ve heard of people in England worrying that their regional dialects were being homogenized due to the spread of modern media and rapid transportation, so I was surprised and pleased to find that doesn’t seem to be the case in Ireland. From your comment, there even seem to be dialect variations within Dublin. I find that fascinating.
      Here in Canada, apart from Newfoundland, the variations in spoken English are pretty minimal, though where I live in southeastern Ontario there is an Ottawa Valley twang in which the greeting, “Good morning” becomes “G’ marnin’”, or just plain “Marnin’”. Ottawa Valley residents are also likely to add the phrase “for to” to some sentence structures, such as, “I’m going to the school for to pick up my kids”, or “I need a pair of blue jeans and a denim jacket for to have a Canadian tuxedo to wear to the wedding.”
      @@hello1868

  • @TheBcvg2002
    @TheBcvg2002 Рік тому +69

    I'm an American whose family are Irish. My Dad was born there, the other side were mostly what we called famine Irish. Growing up I heard a lot of Hiberno English. I have to say that all of this is familiar- I don't speak this way myself but some of the aspects are part of my dialect in American English, which comes likely both from my familial ties but also the influence of Hiberno-English on dialects of American English. Definitely lots of cross pollination. I grew up near a Jamaican community and heard that accent and always thought it was interesting to hear some parallels. I asked a friend who was Jamaican, "Oh my Grandfather was Irish." A lot of that going on: people move, they marry, they influence one another. More flavor for the soup.

    • @EnginAtik
      @EnginAtik Рік тому +4

      So true! Many of these are so familiar to me although English is my second language and I have no Irish ancestry. Now, “give me some of those them there chili.”

    • @oduffy1939
      @oduffy1939 Рік тому +10

      The Jamaican accent is at it's base a Cork accent. The Irish slaves and later indentured servants are the ones who taught the African slaves their English.

    • @CiaraOSullivan1990
      @CiaraOSullivan1990 Рік тому +6

      You should look up the black Irish of Montserrat.

    • @TheBcvg2002
      @TheBcvg2002 Рік тому +2

      Thank you for the suggestion! @@CiaraOSullivan1990

    • @CiaraOSullivan1990
      @CiaraOSullivan1990 Рік тому +2

      @@TheBcvg2002 You're welcome.

  • @ptkcollins
    @ptkcollins Рік тому +14

    I'm glad to see an analysis of Irish-English but there is a dominant focus on the Dublin dialect, which after all is an area that has one of the oldest dialects of English after those in Britain, but the rest of the country continued to be influenced by Irish and has some variations that are not typical in Dublin. Youse is usually not typical outside the east coast, where it's much more common to hear the archaic ye to refer to the plural of you. I think linguistically it's important to distinguish between eastern Irish dialects of English and those from the rest of the country as they have different historical trajectories.

    • @CCc-sb9oj
      @CCc-sb9oj Рік тому

      The linguist Raymond Hickey has a map somewhere where the dialect groups in the country are layed out

    • @oisinoc
      @oisinoc Рік тому

      "Yee" would be the plural of you in a lot of rural areas, "ye" or "ya" would be the singular.

    • @ptkcollins
      @ptkcollins Рік тому

      @@oisinoc I think you might be referring to spoken English because someone might say 'ye' or 'ya' if they didn't fully pronounce 'you', which would happen quite naturally when the vowel is not stressed. However, I'm referring to the actual word 'ye', which is an archaic form of the plural of 'you', and is used all over the southern parts of Ireland both in written and spoken English. Some speakers of standard British English suggest that it's dialectic and incorrect but it's simply non-standard, not incorrect. All the same 'yous' or 'youse' is certainly dialectic and is not usually written and is usually only used in Dublin and the northern counties of Ireland, and in Northern Ireland.

  • @protector808
    @protector808 Рік тому

    Brother I just love your channel, been following you for a while. Thanks for all the thorough coverage of languages, right up my alley! An awesome way to appreciate our diversity, shared history, and promoting unity.

  • @AquaticSkipper
    @AquaticSkipper Рік тому +24

    Someone being a "dose" is a very confusing one, you'd think it means something good to describe someone as a dose of medicine, but it's the opposite. You can describe being sick as having a bad dose also, even though a dose of something is what cures being sick haha

    • @rinimac
      @rinimac Рік тому

      You can dose with anything apparently - often hear the term ‘she’s an awful dose of shite’

    • @dinkster1729
      @dinkster1729 Рік тому

      "Give him a dose of his own medicine." means "treat him a bit like he has treated you." when he has treated you miserably. It can also be said as, "Give him a taste of his own medicine." Isn't a sexually transmitted disease referred to as "a dose"(slang term). He's on an anti-biotic because he got a dose from that girl he picked up last month.

    • @lmc4964
      @lmc4964 11 місяців тому

      its something I picture women saying more than men, with a added huff for effect ;-)

  • @mairnealachamu
    @mairnealachamu Рік тому +29

    Great video, spot on.
    There are more influences from Gaeilge that aren't immediately apparent.
    For example, commonly used in Cork to describe a nasty person "he's a gowl" which comes from the Irish word Gall, meaning an invader/ foreigner.
    Another example would be "he's a fierce nice fella". Fierce comes from fíor in Irish, meaning truly. Is fear fíor deas é.

  • @kamoboko86
    @kamoboko86 Рік тому +6

    There is so much of this used in American dialects. I feel like I would feel at home listening to it.

  • @moshecallen
    @moshecallen Рік тому +8

    The contraction amn't is standard in Hiberno-English, including "Amn't I?"

    • @RobWright1981
      @RobWright1981 Рік тому

      It's not, really. I know of two people who say it.

  • @Conan_Hibernicus
    @Conan_Hibernicus Рік тому +3

    A classic Irish phrase which makes perfect sense to us is "Come in out of the rain!".

  • @DarrenORiagain
    @DarrenORiagain Рік тому +4

    I notice lots of influence from the Irish language since I'm an Irish teacher but another peculiarity of Hiberno-English is the expression 'what are ya at?' meaning 'what are you doing?' Another way that this could be used would be if someone were putting together a piece of Ikea furniture one might say 'he's bin at that yoke all day'. I think that there's probably a link with the verbal nouns in Irish 'ag rith, ag snámh' (which also influenced the present continuous in standard English)

    • @rinimac
      @rinimac Рік тому

      Yea, and this has use in the common ‘always at it’ or ‘never not at it’ directed at someone who is consistently doing something (usually annoying 😅)

  • @Aeon135
    @Aeon135 Рік тому +49

    I have searched “Langfocus irish english” so many times over the years. Been waiting for this one for ages!
    Hiberno-English is a rich and unique dialect with lots of unusual innovations and archaic holdovers that used to be more common in standard English.
    Hiberno-English as far as I know is the only other dialect of English with a “habitual be” present-tense along with AAVE.

    • @MaoRatto
      @MaoRatto Рік тому

      It feels similar to Appalachian English.

    • @Ivaninho
      @Ivaninho Рік тому +1

      Верните ирландский язык себе

    • @thematthew761
      @thematthew761 Рік тому +2

      AAVE kind of got that from influence from the Irish

    • @dazza2350
      @dazza2350 Рік тому

      ​@@thematthew761how

    • @thematthew761
      @thematthew761 Рік тому

      AAVE comes from the South and guess who settled there?@@dazza2350

  • @peadarbradaigh8612
    @peadarbradaigh8612 Рік тому +22

    From west coast Scotland, I’m amazed at the similarity between local dialect and Irish English here.
    Class video, yous should all leave a like.

    • @Edarnon_Brodie
      @Edarnon_Brodie Рік тому +4

      A bheil Gàidhlig na h-Alba agad?

    • @esioanniannaho5939
      @esioanniannaho5939 Рік тому

      Differences with Perceived English of the Easy coast ??
      I remember overhearing someone mentioned that their friends were out in the Sitootoury. Meaning in posh Edinburger accent sitting ooutside !😊

    • @joshmoore7369
      @joshmoore7369 Рік тому

      If you heard the ulster dialect you’d be even more surprised. Due to the fact in Ulster there was a large plantation of Scot’s from the lowlands. It led us to speak very differently from the rest of Ireland and our accent and dialects are often described as a mash of Scottish and Irish

    • @Hsalf904
      @Hsalf904 Рік тому

      I’m from Cape Breton and most of our ancestors came from western Scotland and we use a lot of these as well.

  • @anoniaino
    @anoniaino Рік тому +7

    It’s interesting to listen to this as an Irish person. There are so many things outlined here which I say, if not all the time, just as an alternative way of phrasing a sentence that aren’t standard at all, even though I thought they were.

  • @ILikeVideos62
    @ILikeVideos62 Рік тому

    I've been looking forward to this one for a while.
    Incredible level of detail and accuracy. I grew up in Dublin but I have family all over the country. I lost count of the number of 'oh yeah' moments I had. Excellent job!

  • @TheyCallMeLadyLame
    @TheyCallMeLadyLame Рік тому +3

    “Sure” is another one we use a lot. “Ah, sure. Why would you be doin’ that?” “Sure, isn’t that what I’ve been tellin’ yeah!” Usually pronounced ‘Shur’

  • @Tbri001
    @Tbri001 Рік тому +12

    One thing I hear my Irish friends use that wasn't mentioned is "your man". I think it means something like "that guy"

    • @popland1977
      @popland1977 Рік тому +4

      Yes, and your one always for a woman

  • @martanoconghaile
    @martanoconghaile Рік тому +6

    Great video, very Dublin-focused. You could probably do a series! You should tackle the D4/Deefer accent next!

  • @Reubentheimitator6572
    @Reubentheimitator6572 Рік тому +7

    Excellent video Paul, I learned so much!

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  Рік тому +3

      Thanks! Glad to hear it.

    • @Reubentheimitator6572
      @Reubentheimitator6572 Рік тому

      @@Langfocus You're welcome! I'm also glad to see your response. I've been following you for a few years now.

  • @decekfrokfr3mdx
    @decekfrokfr3mdx Рік тому +1

    14:55: - The Irish (Gaelic word) for 'and' is 'agus', but 'agus' also doubles as meaning 'while'. The modern-day Irish-English use of the 'and' insead of 'while' presumably comes from the Irish language use of 'agus'!...

  • @stiofanocathmhaoil2318
    @stiofanocathmhaoil2318 Рік тому

    A very enjoyable video, many thanks Paul. It really highlights the complexity of Hiberno-English and its relationship to the Irish Language as well as older English dialects.

  • @stevensheeran9069
    @stevensheeran9069 Рік тому +6

    Depending on the part of the country you're in, Ye and Yiz is also used as the Plural you.

    • @CiaraOSullivan1990
      @CiaraOSullivan1990 Рік тому +4

      Ye is probably the most commonly used one. This video seemed to be very Dublin focused. It was almost like it was made RTÉ or something. 😁

  • @tomkleinenberg
    @tomkleinenberg Рік тому +14

    As a South African I noticed "shebeen" is an Irish word that appears uncommon in Irish English but is common in South African English for an unlicensed drinking spot.

    • @CiaraOSullivan1990
      @CiaraOSullivan1990 Рік тому +8

      Shebeen is definitely still used here. My dad used to run one selling his homemade beer, cider and poitín when I was a kid.

    • @cacamilis8477
      @cacamilis8477 Рік тому +4

      How the feck did that word get to South Africa? That's really interesting! The origins of the word are from the Irish "Seibe", with the diminutive form "Seibín" meaning "a small mugful/bottle/liquor measure".

    • @gearoiddom
      @gearoiddom Рік тому +2

      In Limerick running shoes are called tackies, and the only other part of the world I heard this was SA. Derived I suppose from track, running track shoes.

    • @tomkleinenberg
      @tomkleinenberg Рік тому +1

      @@gearoiddom that's hilarious! I've always wondered about the etymology. I thought maybe the Afrikaans tekkie was derived from "atletiek" somehow, and then anglicized.

    • @tullyDT
      @tullyDT Рік тому +5

      The word is alive and well but you'll mostly hear it in the countryside, it became vey common during the covid lockdowns

  • @c.h.ingate5271
    @c.h.ingate5271 Рік тому +29

    My original home was on the South side of Buffalo, New York just 8 miles from the Canadian Border. That part of the city was heavily Irish-American and many of the variations that you have described were common in our manner of speech. One of my nephews married a young lady whose family spoke Irish (Gaelic). But most of us were 3rd and 4th generation descendants.

    • @josephphelps1350
      @josephphelps1350 Рік тому +7

      I grew up in upstate New York (near Albany) in a community with many Irish Americans and also recognize some of these items in the local speech-in particular, I remember growing up hearing some parents describing their children as “bold” for being mischievous.

    • @Dreoilin
      @Dreoilin Рік тому +3

      It's still very irish, I live here and we have street signs in Gaeilge near the Irish Center

    • @dinkster1729
      @dinkster1729 Рік тому +3

      @@josephphelps1350 In Newfoundland, you'd hear, "Now, don't be bold.", but you'd also hear, "She's right brazen." spoken about a child who was open or too forward for a child. "Don't be brazen." a mother often told her child if the child was acting out or being disrespectful. I think we use, "Don't be bold." in Ontario as well when admonishing a child who is talking too loudly or too much.

    • @John316OBrian-cm4fj
      @John316OBrian-cm4fj Рік тому

      ​@dinkster1729 in Ireland we'd say that's a brazen little bitch that one

    • @c.h.ingate5271
      @c.h.ingate5271 Рік тому +1

      @@Dreoilin Yes. I'm always entertained by the Irish Language signs along Abbott Rd. when I visit.

  • @alastairstaunton7081
    @alastairstaunton7081 Рік тому +1

    It's a grand job you're after doin', Paul. Tanks a million🤭

  • @Xsarahm95X
    @Xsarahm95X Рік тому +1

    V impressed by the accuracy! It’s mad to hear a breakdown of how you’ve spoken all your life and how it differs to other forms of English. One thing I would say is about the syntax/fronting part - it’s common to add a “so” before the verb. For the example you gave in the video, it would be more common to hear “we drank all night so we did” rather than “drank all night we did”. Other examples could be “I was with a friend so I was”, “she finished her homework so she did”, “we went out last night so we did”

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому

      Is it the Wexford lads say that? "Bla bla bla, so we did"???

  • @SomeIrishLad
    @SomeIrishLad Рік тому +18

    I think this video is very Dublin focused. I'm from Munster. One example of a difference is that we'd never say "youse", we would say "ye". For example, "What are ye doing tomorrow?"

    • @popland1977
      @popland1977 Рік тому +1

      Definitely is mostly Dublin traits

    • @bigmaguire9714
      @bigmaguire9714 9 місяців тому

      Pretty much all Dublin this video tbh

  • @danger_design
    @danger_design Рік тому +40

    I'm Irish disapora living in canada, and I was surprised to find that I use a number of these patterns. Some I knew ahead of time, but I was shocked to learn just how many survived through emigration.

  • @marietg8025
    @marietg8025 Рік тому +5

    Well this is spot on.... I wouldn't use all of them but most of them.
    And here is a widespread one you missed!
    The use of the subjonctive to talk about the past or the present:
    I don't use all of them /I wouldn't use all of them
    I was an energetic, rambunctious kid/ I would have been an annoying little gurrier
    She would have been 5 weeks in the hospital
    That's really key in Irish English and it must be really confusing to foreigners.
    Clefting is more widespread in the west, as well as adding so it is, so you are at the end is common in the north.
    What are you at? = what are you doing currently
    What ARE you at? /are you mad? What are you DOING
    Where would you be at? You'd be at nothing. = where would that leave you? You're wasting your time
    Also we never use fewer, just less.
    There ara less people here today/there is less people here today
    Oh and I nearly forgot.... Irish people do not like to say yes or no so you'll get roundabout ways of saying it....
    And would you be from Galway, now...?
    I would.
    Would you be hungry? I wouldn't/not at all. /I ate an hour ago
    Often when yes is used it's overemphasised, Yessss

    • @marietg8025
      @marietg8025 Рік тому +1

      There's more that keeps coming to me 😂
      We don't use who or which all that often, but that:
      That man that's a painter
      And this... which I don't know how to even describe. The removal of the verb to be:
      That car is fairly small and he a real tail man. How do(es) he be fittin in it?
      This one is common around Wexford

  • @silverkitty2503
    @silverkitty2503 Рік тому

    Thank you so much for doing this from Ireland! And we really do speak like this. Partic in informal situations amongst ourselves and at home!

  • @lorrenzom
    @lorrenzom 11 місяців тому +2

    This is amazing in South Africa 🇿🇦 we use the word Grand the same way so part of our vernacular for example ke grand = I’m fine

    • @bobsmith5441
      @bobsmith5441 9 місяців тому

      That's really interesting