@@Rimzler Trying here, I have the Pavo 20 Pro and the Googles 3, managed to link both of them, but on betaflight I can't make my RC3 work :( I put it on sbus etc but it just won't work, any ideas?
You do tho, if you turn sometimes they show, if you horizon lock they show, and I export the stab footage in 4:3 to reframe later and they appear, of course is not a huge issue but still I would prefer no ducts in view
Great video! Ducts in view is what I expected beta FPV to fix! Ducks in view is what made me stick to the pico but flight time is lacking. I’ll stick to the pico and cinelog 20
All true BetaFlight fpv drones can be setup for Angle horizon or acro on your controller. This one included. Bind angle and horizon to a position each on the 3 way switch and leave one blank. Acro is default will auto assign to the flight mode switch you left blank and doesn't need to be bound.
Think the camera mount can go on the original? Being able to just swap out the camera quick would be great. The original would make a fine back up to this quad.
Looks like the pro has lower kv motors and 2.2 vs the 2.0 inch props. Looks to be heavier and come stock with 3 bladed props vs the 2. Probably more thrust for lower rpm for longer battery life which it seems they’re advertising 6-7 minutes vs 5 minutes. I’d keep what you have and try some 3 bladed props. Heard good things about doing that.
@@Boomshock96The pro uses 3S batteries vs the 2S used in the non pro. BetaFPV advertises it as a Freestyle Cinewhoop which also explains the choice to use 3 bladed props.
Not much difference, just slightly bigger, little more power, stability and efficiency, they are similar, I also believe Pavo 20 has a tiny bit less ducts in view
Which would you recommend? 20Pro 25V2 35 ? I don't need an action camera on top, just dji o3. And it will be my first fpv drone, I have a dji air 2 but I really enjoyed an Avata 2 and I want to get in FPV.
Pavo 25 V2 and 35 are good but they have a design oversight where you cannot access the O3 system SD card, so I don't recommend them with O3! Pavo 20 pro is perfect for beginners imho, still light but flies good enough so that you will learn moves, do you need ducts? Because there are also ductless O3 drones that fly even better and don't have ducts in view you can consider
@@Rimzler I would absolutely love to not have the ducts in the view, but I would feel much more confident at the beginning with ducts + I would also try indoor flight
I love my Pavo 20 so much that I bought a spare so I have 2 identical setup for work. I had to radically detune them for cinematic stuff. So I bet this one is no different. I wish they fixed the duct view. I run mine so they are just in view. And after Gyroflow you do not see them.
It's a great drone, one of the best in this class, I would be so happy if they solved the ducts in frame thing, as it would be perfect then! Gyroflow cuts the ducts out but if you turn sharply or activate horizon lock you are going to see them😓
Hey man, any tuning hints? Im pretty new with fpv stuff, and I'm tying to get a handle on ways to make it easier t fly smooth, other than just getting more skillzzzz
@TheGuigotz hold your horses ahah in a few weeks o4 will be out😍 finally no compromise, will make sure to review everything, even maybe make my own stuff how I need it
Hi! I know they are very separate categories but how does this compare to your experience with Stingerbee? Its less than half the price and I am setting up my first O3 system. I am getting ELRS as I already have a decent controller there.
I don't get it! This seems like a step down from the older BetaFPV 95X V3 with the 1404 motors. It also weighs in at a similar weight with the Vista. 03 isn't much heavier, either. I could care less about 4K footage of the 03, but I do care about the better low light capability of Vista vs. 03 and the better overall contrast vs. 03. 03 is always so dark in the shadows! We lose a lot of detail when the image is so damn dark in the shadows. Chris Rosser did a review of the 95X V3 with the 1404 motors - *They should have called it the V4 because the first V3 had 1106 motors that severely overheated. What a DUD! Anyway, Chris did a FANTASTIC TUNE for the 95x V4* and it flies absolutely perfect! Course it will use up to 4S lipos, but 3S seem to work very good too!!! They keep it lighter. But, the 95X has not only those much more efficient motors but they also have a ton more thrust! So, we get longer flight times AND better performance. 11 series motors were kinda of given up on long ago...well, except for the 1102 and 1103's. The 95X also has a full 2.5" prop. With all of these upgrades AND about the same weight, it sure appears like this Pavo Pico Pro is a downgrade from the 95X V4*! I can't imagine a 2.2:" prop with much smaller motors and about the same weight could possibly compete with the awesome way the Chris Rosser tuned 95X V4* performs! Such precision handling and a lot of power too! BetaFPV going backwards! It's stupid that most of the FPV drone makers discontinue older BNF's for newer designs....designs that aren't as good as the older ones! Why not leave those older models available for everyone to purchase? Why discontinue them so people can't buy them anymore? Makes no sense! More available models means more sales, I'd think...
Do you FCC hack your dji avata drones or the air unit (if there is an fcc hack for the separate o3)? If so, can you make an up to date video on how to do the FCC hack on like the original avata or something
Hi ! My name is leon and i am 11 years old . I want to buy the pavo 20 or the 25 v2 and i do not know what is the best choise .Can u please help me find out ?
Bro, which 2” fpv brand that you highly recommended? Fyi, already have mobula8 realy love fly it…now looking for another 2” with bigger battery (3s) especially🥰…really need your expert advise bro🙏🏼🙏🏼
Pavo 20 pro is better, more powerful, stable and no jello, but darkstar is lighter and more silent, I would consider the Flylens85 if you want the best 2s 2 inch, this Pavo 20 is another category using 3s
They had 4s in their previous series! The 95X V3 with 1404 motors, 2.5" props and a very similar weight is an awesome flyer...especially with Chris Rosser's amazing tune! I think it's better than these Pavo's. Those 1104 motors won't compete even closely to the 1404 motors on the 95X V3. 1404's re so efficient too. Plus, I can tell you without a doubt the 95X V3 is soooo much more durable. I've heard of guys having to buy more than 4 of those hokey and flimsy little VTX mounts for the top. The 95X V3 has the VTX mounted at the same level as the motors! Ah Haa! A major improvement in overall center of gravity, instead of the VTX being mounted so much higher up than where the motors are!!! That makes all of those Pavo's too top heavy. Should have kept the 95X V3 series still available for purchase - Stupid to discontinue such great products! BetaFPV should have just made a new version with 03 and Chris Rosser's tune! That's such a winner, when this Pavo Pico Pro seems like such a huge downgrade! I simply don't see how they could make the 95X V3 with 1404's any better! Plus, a whole new frame was only $15 RETAIL! I got one on closeout for a mere FIVE BUCKS! LOL Never had any damage to my original frame either. why, Why, WHY do makers stop keeping great older models still available for sale? Diatone does the same exact thing! D U M B !
One one of the last invitations to review a pack Pavo named drone I told beta FPV they should change this name since the first paver Pavo 25 was one of the worst drones and the name is negatively loaded. Looks like your sample here is good. Greets, Mario
Yo Dude! You know BetaFPV! LOL They name stuff so stupidly! I think the 95X V3 with the 1404 motors is soooo much better than these Pavo's and soooo much more durable! About the same weight too, and it will use up to 4S lipos. I got Chris Rosser's fantastic tune on mine and it flies fantastic! They should have kept it around...but called it what it should have been called since the first 95X V3 had those 1106 motors that overheated so bad. Then, they changed the motors to the much better 1404's, but LEFT IT THE SAME V3! Should have just called it a V4. DUH! Why is BetaFpv so WHACKY? 🤯🙄
I like betafpv stuff. But I like analog.. 6s racing & freestyle drones, explosive 2s, and pin point accurate 1s whoops. I have no need for this. Not until I have chickens of my own to chase.
Th chicken chase always🤣🤣🤣🤣👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼I am trying to buy one of those cinewhoop drones that I can use for outdoors and indoors. Is this the right one??
just ordered the pavo 20 pro and 03 air unit today ! cant wait to go through the headache of setting up my first fpv drone
pairing it with the dji goggles 3 and dji fpv controller 3
It should not be too much of a headache, if you have issues write me a dm on insta
@@Rimzler Trying here, I have the Pavo 20 Pro and the Googles 3, managed to link both of them, but on betaflight I can't make my RC3 work :( I put it on sbus etc but it just won't work, any ideas?
@@killian2826did you get it to work?. I’m thinking of buying the same goggles 3 with DJI rc3
Fascinating video!!! Happy flying with Pavo20pro!!!
Give us a new 85mm whoop 2S with walksnail mini 1s
This looks like an amazing drone, can't wait to try it. out!
Glad you liked it!
I hope you will work on the ducts in view. @BETAFPVHobby
The fact you use chapters/time stamps in your videos sets you miles apart from all the other reviewers
Bel video e bella recensione. Grande!
You will not see ducts in stabilised video so it’s not an issue. Camera protection is more important
You do tho, if you turn sometimes they show, if you horizon lock they show, and I export the stab footage in 4:3 to reframe later and they appear, of course is not a huge issue but still I would prefer no ducts in view
Great video. Love the chicken chase. 😂
Thanks for watching! Ahahah i Always have to do it to really test a drone!
Great video! Ducts in view is what I expected beta FPV to fix! Ducks in view is what made me stick to the pico but flight time is lacking. I’ll stick to the pico and cinelog 20
If they fix it this drones are basically perfect! They watched this review so hope they got the point this time
Good video, i have an old pavo 20, should i upgrade 🤔
Also, where do you live? Beautiful landscapes!
No I wouldn't update, it's slightly more powerful and stable, but still has the frame in camera view, so it's almost the same!
It's Italy.
I notice it comes with no capasitor?
No external capacitor, but it's also a 3s drone
Nice one its possible to put analog on this ? Like a Trex cam and rush fpv solo on it or no ?
Yes as long as you use a 19mm cam and a 20x20 vtx is fine!
@@Rimzler i see this board have only jst HD vtx connect for o3 ?
Just ordered one and a air 03 unit!
Savage bee canopy would be awesome
can you please share the rates??
AMAZING!! has it the 3 modes: ANGLE, HORIZON and ANCRO?? or just ACRO?? can I fly with DJI Avata 2 RC ? thanksss
All true BetaFlight fpv drones can be setup for Angle horizon or acro on your controller. This one included.
Bind angle and horizon to a position each on the 3 way switch and leave one blank. Acro is default will auto assign to the flight mode switch you left blank and doesn't need to be bound.
Can you mount walksnail moonlight on this?
Moonlight is a bit bigger, you'll need a different canopy
We’ll done!
Thank you so much☺️☺️
@@Rimzler no worries fellow UA-camr 😎
Think the camera mount can go on the original? Being able to just swap out the camera quick would be great. The original would make a fine back up to this quad.
maybe someone can make a 3d print for the o3 for the camera angle
They should offer an improven injection molded mount!
So what’s the difference between the 20 and 20 Pro? I just got the 20 two days ago.
Looks like the pro has lower kv motors and 2.2 vs the 2.0 inch props. Looks to be heavier and come stock with 3 bladed props vs the 2.
Probably more thrust for lower rpm for longer battery life which it seems they’re advertising 6-7 minutes vs 5 minutes.
I’d keep what you have and try some 3 bladed props. Heard good things about doing that.
@@Boomshock96The pro uses 3S batteries vs the 2S used in the non pro. BetaFPV advertises it as a Freestyle Cinewhoop which also explains the choice to use 3 bladed props.
@@neuromancer692 the non pro can use 3s up to 650mah according to Betafpv.
Not much difference, just slightly bigger, little more power, stability and efficiency, they are similar, I also believe Pavo 20 has a tiny bit less ducts in view
Waiting also to see the pocket version.
I will try and review it!
Can Fly whith Goggles 3 and dji controller 3?
DJI should have updated the goggles 3 to support O3 a week ago, so yes!
@@Rimzler also with the RC3?? easy to bind??
Come fai a acquisire l'OSD dei goggles?
Con i goggles 2 mettendo la SD dentro e registrando il DVR, registra anche l'osd
@@Rimzler solo con i goggles 2? Io ho i goggles v2
@nicolascappiello5477 ho anche i V2 e mi pare sia possibile, forse devi aggiornare, altrimenti l'osd sta nel file subtitle che Annette ai video
What o3 2-3s drone do you recommend for stealth and silence, for events, flying over people? Still the darkstar20? Has your opinion changed?
Flylens85 Is my go-to, flies amazing, super light with naked O3 and has the soft mounts so no jello
Which would you recommend? 20Pro 25V2 35 ? I don't need an action camera on top, just dji o3. And it will be my first fpv drone, I have a dji air 2 but I really enjoyed an Avata 2 and I want to get in FPV.
Pavo 25 V2 and 35 are good but they have a design oversight where you cannot access the O3 system SD card, so I don't recommend them with O3!
Pavo 20 pro is perfect for beginners imho, still light but flies good enough so that you will learn moves, do you need ducts? Because there are also ductless O3 drones that fly even better and don't have ducts in view you can consider
@@Rimzler which drones duchess do you refer to
@@Rimzler I would absolutely love to not have the ducts in the view, but I would feel much more confident at the beginning with ducts + I would also try indoor flight
Does the Pavo20 Pro canopy fit on the Pavo20 Frame?
Hey, do you use the DJI controller or ELRS/TBS? Also would you recommend waiting for the o4 air unit atm?
I use the DJI controller, yes it seems like the O4 may come out soon maybe a matter of weeks, it will be incredible for small Cinewhoops
I love my Pavo 20 so much that I bought a spare so I have 2 identical setup for work. I had to radically detune them for cinematic stuff. So I bet this one is no different. I wish they fixed the duct view. I run mine so they are just in view. And after Gyroflow you do not see them.
It's a great drone, one of the best in this class, I would be so happy if they solved the ducts in frame thing, as it would be perfect then!
Gyroflow cuts the ducts out but if you turn sharply or activate horizon lock you are going to see them😓
@@Rimzler I am so happy with my 2.0 now that I wouldn't change. I want an updated 3.5 with the O3 to carry a full size gopro.
You can also mount the 03 a bit higher with just 1 screw on each side that way you dont see the duct anymore (at least thats what i heard)
You should make a video on your tune.
Hey man, any tuning hints? Im pretty new with fpv stuff, and I'm tying to get a handle on ways to make it easier t fly smooth, other than just getting more skillzzzz
How much would it cost for all the set up?
That one vs avata 2 in flying in wind capability one is heavier and bigger but the other is a true fpv drone what do you think
Can make a video with the pavo 20 pro vs 25 v2 ? 🙏🙏🙏
what are the rates you used?
What would you prefer this or geprc darkstar20 ?
This one if I had to pick, the darkstar has some jello sometimes
what is your opinion about this vs the flylens85?
This is more powerful, flylens is more silent
@@Rimzler really would love a review of the Itsy Spyder (sub100g o3) from yours!
@TheGuigotz hold your horses ahah in a few weeks o4 will be out😍 finally no compromise, will make sure to review everything, even maybe make my own stuff how I need it
@@Rimzler Nice! Looking forward for it!
Finally! No jello drone for Rimzler from betafpv 😂😂😂😂. That hit home 😂😂😂
Hahahahaha man how things have changed lol😂😂
Can i use 4s battery ?
3s only
Hows the range?
Great video! Would love a side to side comparison of the Pico vs this drone
Does it come with FPV camera ? Or its extra? Can I connect it to movile with 5.8ghz receiver?
Can I get some advice. I have Goggle 3 + MC 3. Beside this drone, what else do I need? Thanks.
Whats the weight. With O3 and 550 battery please? Is it's below 250g i think no point to order 450 batteries
What's the best small , cinematic fpv drone under 250 g?
Hi! I know they are very separate categories but how does this compare to your experience with Stingerbee? Its less than half the price and I am setting up my first O3 system. I am getting ELRS as I already have a decent controller there.
I don't get it! This seems like a step down from the older BetaFPV 95X V3 with the 1404 motors. It also weighs in at a similar weight with the Vista. 03 isn't much heavier, either. I could care less about 4K footage of the 03, but I do care about the better low light capability of Vista vs. 03 and the better overall contrast vs. 03. 03 is always so dark in the shadows! We lose a lot of detail when the image is so damn dark in the shadows.
Chris Rosser did a review of the 95X V3 with the 1404 motors - *They should have called it the V4 because the first V3 had 1106 motors that severely overheated. What a DUD! Anyway, Chris did a FANTASTIC TUNE for the 95x V4* and it flies absolutely perfect! Course it will use up to 4S lipos, but 3S seem to work very good too!!! They keep it lighter. But, the 95X has not only those much more efficient motors but they also have a ton more thrust! So, we get longer flight times AND better performance. 11 series motors were kinda of given up on long ago...well, except for the 1102 and 1103's. The 95X also has a full 2.5" prop.
With all of these upgrades AND about the same weight, it sure appears like this Pavo Pico Pro is a downgrade from the 95X V4*! I can't imagine a 2.2:" prop with much smaller motors and about the same weight could possibly compete with the awesome way the Chris Rosser tuned 95X V4* performs! Such precision handling and a lot of power too! BetaFPV going backwards! It's stupid that most of the FPV drone makers discontinue older BNF's for newer designs....designs that aren't as good as the older ones! Why not leave those older models available for everyone to purchase? Why discontinue them so people can't buy them anymore? Makes no sense! More available models means more sales, I'd think...
What would be better this drone or the betafv air 65
Depends on what you need and what setup you have
This drone can fly with an 2S batery ?
Do you FCC hack your dji avata drones or the air unit (if there is an fcc hack for the separate o3)? If so, can you make an up to date video on how to do the FCC hack on like the original avata or something
Hi ! My name is leon and i am 11 years old . I want to buy the pavo 20 or the 25 v2 and i do not know what is the best choise .Can u please help me find out ?
Bro, which 2” fpv brand that you highly recommended? Fyi, already have mobula8 realy love fly it…now looking for another 2” with bigger battery (3s) especially🥰…really need your expert advise bro🙏🏼🙏🏼
I don't know how to compare with Dark star 20
Pavo 20 pro is better, more powerful, stable and no jello, but darkstar is lighter and more silent, I would consider the Flylens85 if you want the best 2s 2 inch, this Pavo 20 is another category using 3s
Better than darkstar?
Yes objectively is better, no jello, flies better, it's a bit noisier and heavier
Yours came with tri-blades? Mine came with bi-blades. Really fun so far though!
this is the new version of the pavo20 bud the pavo20 pro. You must have the pavo20 do you? i have the pavo20 and i love it great little drone
@betafpv upgrade 4s fc in the future 👌.
True, but motors need to be lower kV and not perfect for 3s then
They had 4s in their previous series! The 95X V3 with 1404 motors, 2.5" props and a very similar weight is an awesome flyer...especially with Chris Rosser's amazing tune! I think it's better than these Pavo's. Those 1104 motors won't compete even closely to the 1404 motors on the 95X V3. 1404's re so efficient too. Plus, I can tell you without a doubt the 95X V3 is soooo much more durable. I've heard of guys having to buy more than 4 of those hokey and flimsy little VTX mounts for the top. The 95X V3 has the VTX mounted at the same level as the motors! Ah Haa! A major improvement in overall center of gravity, instead of the VTX being mounted so much higher up than where the motors are!!! That makes all of those Pavo's too top heavy.
Should have kept the 95X V3 series still available for purchase - Stupid to discontinue such great products! BetaFPV should have just made a new version with 03 and Chris Rosser's tune! That's such a winner, when this Pavo Pico Pro seems like such a huge downgrade! I simply don't see how they could make the 95X V3 with 1404's any better! Plus, a whole new frame was only $15 RETAIL! I got one on closeout for a mere FIVE BUCKS! LOL Never had any damage to my original frame either.
why, Why, WHY do makers stop keeping great older models still available for sale? Diatone does the same exact thing! D U M B !
Which country you're from? Please.... 🙏
Amazing but can it carry a full size gopro 😅 love you from india ❤❤
No it will have an hard time even with naked GoPro imho
Chicken test is back!! Could you maybe put DJI O3 on chicken next time? 🙃Great video as always!
Please do a video about your chickens
One one of the last invitations to review a pack Pavo named drone I told beta FPV they should change this name since the first paver Pavo 25 was one of the worst drones and the name is negatively loaded. Looks like your sample here is good. Greets, Mario
Yo Dude! You know BetaFPV! LOL They name stuff so stupidly! I think the 95X V3 with the 1404 motors is soooo much better than these Pavo's and soooo much more durable! About the same weight too, and it will use up to 4S lipos. I got Chris Rosser's fantastic tune on mine and it flies fantastic! They should have kept it around...but called it what it should have been called since the first 95X V3 had those 1106 motors that overheated so bad. Then, they changed the motors to the much better 1404's, but LEFT IT THE SAME V3! Should have just called it a V4. DUH! Why is BetaFpv so WHACKY? 🤯🙄
Chicken chasing equipment for sure !
Ahahhahahaha this time I finally found some chicken!
🏃♂️ 🐔 ❤
Whats next? 2.35" pavo 😂
For sure the most powerful pavo 20 by now.
Ahahahahahhahahaha Pavo 3.141592"
I like betafpv stuff. But I like analog.. 6s racing & freestyle drones, explosive 2s, and pin point accurate 1s whoops. I have no need for this. Not until I have chickens of my own to chase.
Ahahahahah since O3 I only carry drones that can record with me! You never know when you'll find some chicken to chase and you want to record it😂😂
Th chicken chase always🤣🤣🤣🤣👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼I am trying to buy one of those cinewhoop drones that I can use for outdoors and indoors. Is this the right one??
Which gloogles FPv are compatible with the DJI O3 air unit? Or only DJi Google FPV?
Goggles V2, goggles 2, goggles integra and goggles 3