The Secret inspiration Behind Penacony || Honkai Star Rail Analysis
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- Today I talk about the clear Gnostic inspirations behind Honkai Star Rail's Penacony planet, specifically the HSR 2.2 boss and brother Sunday and the clear inspiration from the Apocryphon of John. There are many things I didn't mention in the video such as Mikhail being called "the watchmaker" and so on, but I cared mostly about the central point. Hope you enjoy!
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YO starrsil analysis! Cool!
Nothing like getting an ad for Star Rail as I load a video about Star Rail.
Wish they would sponsor me
Gotta make sure they star railing you.
and then the one time you watch a video not about star rail, it’s sponsored by star rail. you cannot escape :) all aboard :)
but are you playing star rail while getting an ad for star rail on a star rail video? didnt think so
I just literally got one with Robin, then open the comments section and see this
Very thematically appropriate that you used a song from Persona 5 Royal in the background when discussing control vs. freedom lol
Indeed haha
Id love to see more star rail videos. This game so fun and is a hyperfixation of mine.
It is fun! Religious history and mythology is a hyper fixation of mine so seeing it in media is really fun
That last arc reminded me a lot of that third semester in you know what game.
Exactly
I WOUDL LOVE LOVE LOVE MORE ANALYSIS ON PENACONY’S RELIGIOUS THEMES bc it’s the one part that i’m not too familiar with about penacony themes or inspiration bc i’ve picked up on a lot of the u.s. history references and they make me go OMG and also this is the first video i’ve seen from u and i realky really like it if u make more penacony or hsr videos Im really lookign forward to them!!!
I've been doing deep dives on Star Rail recently so with Penacony coming to a close this was a great video! And I did learn new things that weren't explained in others. But that's just par for the course for this channel :)
Once they began to show Sunday's motives in 2.2 I started calling him Yalda-Maruki.
That's accurate
omg i was not expecting a stevesekai shoutout right at the end recently i just finished binging all of his videos a while ago so that was a nice overlay. love both of you guys' videos :D
Aventurine baby girl
Indeed
Sunday, the Takuto Maruki of hsr
Literally
Love this video! Subbed
Yes, Penacony is a...VERY explicit, almost turn by turn allegory for Enlightenment, of which gnosticism centers. You can consider Enlightenment frameworks hoyo's philosophy btw, since all their games from Honkai 3rd to Genshin use it as a story skeleton.
Acheron's entire plane of Nihility scene blatantly mirrors Buddhist Ego Death (also known as Jungian Psychic Death). This is the last stage before Enlightenment.
"Always distinguish between reality and imagination... alright, Grey?"
-Sparkle, and On the Eighth Day
Those who experience Ego Death often describe it as Grey, Black and White, "infinity that feels like nothing." The experience contextualizes via Finality(!) why exactly your life happened up to that point.
"Everyone, and every face they remember, the joy and the heartaches, the vows sealed and those left hanging... all will inevitably march towards a predetermined ending. If you had grasped the journey's finale right from its inception..."
-Acheron, And On the Eighth Day
"And in the end, you will only see in black and white."
-Acheron, And On the Eighth Day
To reach Ego Death, you must see the Truth through Lies (wonder why Gallagher is a composite of 52 Family members? because Siddhartha Gautama's Disturbances of the Mind involves seeing through the 52 lies of Reality that mask the Truth). The Lies are everything you have ever learned from Cause and Effect, to how interpret literature, to how to tie your shoes - they're just rules we created to interpret the chaos of our Reality. We created them, not the other way around. You must learn to use them as tools, not as laws that shackle you.
This is why the Trailblazer says "Rules are meant to be broken!"
"It was not you who created all things. It was humanity that created you!"
-Embryo of Philosophy Sunday to Ena
This is why Sunday's eternal dream needed to be shattered. The demiurge traps humans in a dream that though safe, lacks wonder, and is but an eggshell - hence why black swan says there is a "fatal flaw" in the dream, and the Primordial One's firmament is described as an eggshell. Reality always wins, since dreams of this kind - delusions! - are fragile, and will someday be broken, if not by the good guys, then the bad guys.
"The mighty Star Fortress, Anusharwan - designed personally by Princess Gopatha, and named by Emperor Sher - was now nothing more than a fragile egg before the rebel fleet, and mother hen was away from the nest."
-A legend of Sword, Genshin
'""Find meaning somewhere. The night deepens."
"Find meaning somewhere. The night deepens, but the dream lives on."'
-Flowers for Princess Fischl, Genshin Impact
"Teyvat has its own laws." Never have faith in our Reality's "laws", because they don't apply to interpreting Genshin's lore. A fairytale in Genshin might be about the game's future. It might be talking to the player, not other characters. The lore of Genshin is Chaos, nonsense. Literary Nonsense! which is why Alice's name is Alice, since Alice in Wonderland(Teyvat) is a book of the literary nonsense genre.
Acheron also says "the so-called impossible is merely something that has yet to happen." When you put no faith in rules, there is infinite possibility.
Vera's Melancholy, Genshin Impact: "As I've said, the past cannot change the future, for the predetermined rules of equilibrium are slightly more powerful than me. But the future, with its infinite possibilities, could save the world."
The second part of reaching that Ego Death is detaching from your deepest desires, because desires are a fear of the Unknown - a fear of not having that desire - that prevent you from achieving dreams those desires stem from.
"Parting and passion are two separate perspectives sharing the same nature."
-Lyney story quest item
"So long as there is still desire left in your heart, when you hold your head high you will see that which glitters but is not light."
-Travel Notes, Falling Star (Genshin namecard)
Those whose desires Jade granted wound up completely screwed, that much is clear.
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As for why Clockie says only those with "childlike spirit" or something can see him, a memetic entity?
Besides Enlightened people, there are tons of people who have not internalized the "lies" of Reality. They are called children, who thus can make Imaginary Friends (projections of their visual spatial sketchpad onto Reality, *memetic entities*) because their Imaginations and Reality are consolidated. However, since they have yet not experienced the harshness of Reality for themselves, children accrue Lies as they grow up into adults.
To become Enlightened, you must, in essence, reconsolidate Imagination and Reality (accept the harshness of Reality while believing in its infinite possibility), all with your Ego at the center, becoming an adult piloting the wonder and creativity of childlike cognition. (This is the Jungian Self)
"One has to eventually grow up
Spending a lifetime to taste the love and pain"
-Honkai 3rd, Da Capo
"To the others, childhood was long gone, but youth was forever beyond their reach."
-Vera's Melancholy, Genshin Impact
Hence the adults in Sumeru can't see the aranara and why the Imaginary Friend viewfinder device Lisa whips out in Venti's first story quest is called the "nirnama [NAMELESS] detector" HSR's Nameless can think like children, because those Enlightened must go nameless, with humility, into the throngs. After having seen infinite grey during Ego Death and after having chased the Color of Existence to its horizon, those Enlightened must serve to inspire others, not rule them, because they are not gods, but humans, as they always were. Humanity at large must make its own choice as to salvation, because what matters is that humanity made a choice, not that they reached a certain ending; because though Life is suffering, that color shines infinitely brighter than the blandness of perfection.
"even if the future is full of pain, we won't escape from it!"
-March 7th, Penacony
"True happiness and the meaning of life lie in defying the Nihility and embracing all that life offers!"
-Robin
"As I said, our plan is not about convincing everyone to choose the right path, but about inspiring them to save themselves. So, when will people actively save themselves?"
-Acheron
As you can see, Penacony's conclusion references this pretty explicitly.
Woah man. Why aren't you out making videos. I just happen to know a lot about gnostic stuff and saw the parallels but this is a legitimate effort
god do i love penacony and its ambiance
Really great script and analysis here, Hiding!
omg I havent been at this channel in a hot minutes but I come back for star rail!? this is great! I did already know about gnostisism and the demiurge and stuff because genshin lore theory people talk about it a lot but you actually explained it way better than any of them so the narrative makes more sense to me now
have a good one hide! byeee (even tho I havent been watching in a while I met most of my friends through your discord server so I owe you a lot)
Penacony really caught my attention, I barely played once a week and now i login everyday
Damn dr maruki lookin different
Literally!!!
was not expecting this
100% down for more star rail. Peakocony has so much meat to analyze, especially if looking at theming and readings (such as religious reading, queer reading, or comparison to Americana and gilded age history).
We need more star rail analysis
It's a meaty game. A lot of thought went into it's world building
I remember watching an anime called Gun x Sword years ago that had * spoilers * an ending where a bad guy wanted to create a false heaven on earth. The gnostic symbolism really is prolific.
Also I just noticed that the symbol for the military in Fullmetal Alchemist is the symbol of a lion either a snake’s tail. Very Yaldabaoth.
HSR video let's goooooooo!
def do more star rail and anime videos. that was interesting. you should do a video going over gallagher. that man is a mindfuck.
Cool vid bro.😺
Thanks top cat
subbed 🔥💪
I would assume it's purposeful that this planet is also the first time we get into the history of the Express, at least concerning members who departed some time ago.
So when my brother convinced me to come back to Star Rail because "Penacony is just like P5", he wasn't lying, lol.
And from the CSM example all you're telling me is that any time east Asian media talks about "control" there is some sorta Gnosticism at pla- WAIT DOES ONE PIECE HAVE ANYTHING
Epic
Epic
Peakacony was so good, I really hope that the next chapter is as good.
All the interlocking parts and different factions with different motives was so fun
E also has a great genshin/starrail video on hoyoverse games and gnostisisim!
I'm not the only one who thinks it looks like bioshark 0:36.
They're both inspired by 1920's art dec
Yippee
Wow hiding in public making an hsr video is the last thing i would expect
Been playing since last October. Blame my girlfriend
i got the gnosticism bit but wasn’t sure exactly who the harmony was because that wasn’t in P5R 💀
The Harmony is the high God, and Order is Demiurge. Thought it was so cool
It's interesting how popular gnostic interpretations of scripture is in asian media, probably because it's the one interpretation that most closely adheres to eastern religions like Buddhism or Taoism.
Boosting comment 👍
Thanks!
Haha! Yes! More esoteric bible lore! Especially the good stuff that messes with their "only ever one God" canon.
Also sorry I don't drink, so I... Probably won't go and watch your friend... 😐
That's fine! I'm glad you're watching me!
Hopefully this isn’t hit by a copyright strike like the Chainsaw Man vid on the other channel
I don't think it will (fingers crossed)
Peaknacony
True
hi lars
Hi
Hey, can you do a video on firefly?
All of starrail is ralated to gnostisisim lol
I've been told genshin had a lot of roots to it but not heard many talk about it with star rail
I haven't watched the video, I bet the Theme is Christianity.
This is all well and good but I'd suggest that you actually read religious authors if you want to talk about religious themes.
Bart Erhman is an atheist so I have no idea why you would turn to him. Even in the footnotes of that book he admits that the textual differences between the NT manuscripts are largely irrelevant or negligible.
I've read a lot. Bart's book is accessible and consistent with scholarship opinion, this includes Christian scholars. There are also many changes that substantially affected Christian history. Like "son of a construction worker" became "Jesus is a carpenter"
@@HidinginPrivate Even if he is a scholar, he is an atheist with an axe to grind so you should not be turning to him unless your aim is to denigrate the religion in question.
Imagine if I wanted to talk about the Buddhist themes in a piece of Japanese media and I turn to an ex-Buddhist who writes books saying Buddhism is fake. That just doesn't make any sense. So likewise, if you want to talk about Christian themes it would better to consult actual Christians who actually believe in said themes.
The "construction worker" thing is not a textual variant. You don't have manuscripts which say "carpenter" and others which say something else. That's just Ehrman's interpretation of "τέκτων" which, by the way, is wrong. τέκτων is a craftsman skilled in wood.
Without lily you get no views, go back to simping for vaush
Huh
It's gacha bro
as much as that makes the gameplay kinda lame, it doesn't discount the story and artistic vision
Yeah
Considering how a very common tactic of gacha games is to focus on having a really good story and characters specifically so people will stay invested and pull, I think there are better criticisms you could have than "it's gacha, why analyze the story?"
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