Personally, I would prefer that plot not move forward at all than have someone other than the heroes do it, though of course that wouldn't be my first choice.
@@ethancox9737 Because he is! He’s the most interesting character. I’m sorry but if we compare him with the others then you see the difference! I mean I barely know their friend’s name🤣. I only know Alya. They are all boring and lame.
Felix is the ultimate menace man does not lose. When he shows up you know things are going to get big. The season 4 finale is honestly proof he's just that Guy and let's not forget he straight up won when he used the red moon sentimonster
@@njivwathomassilavwe2056 Maybe, but I'd honestly have preferred a boring story where Ladybug won over what happened in Strikeback and Emotion. Do you have that much emotional attachment to the characters?
But it does.. In Félix (season 3) : - We learn that he father died. - Her mother say that his changed since his father death. - He litterally ask Adrien if he obey every of his father's order. In season 4 : - Gabriel say that he can make him disappear with just a snap of his finger. - He steal the Peacok Miraculous in the end of the season. - All the setup about the twins rings in season 3/4/5. Everything are here in the show...
@@mimiquoi7380 A lot of the stuff you mentioned doesn't automatically confirm that--those could've easily been unrelated to the reveal, especially when it's not confirmed until season 5, which is a super long time, making me think this was in response to fan feedback. And again, the episode it's confirmed in is so random.
It's true that they've been very vague hints, but they've been there. Adrien is alwas described as "perfect" Cousins can look alike, but not like exact replicas, even if their moms are twins. Besides the looks, being the same age and height is too big of a coincidence. In Wishmaker we see that Adrien doesn't really have a fantasy beyond 'being what his parents want'
Felix had one of the most half assed redemtion arcs I ever have seen. This guy caused every bad thing in season 5 by stealing the miraculous. Then he comes along and casualy comits Mass Genocide. Ladybug doesn't even try to pursue him after that even if she knows where he f*ing lives. And then he becomes a simp for Kagami and Marinette IMIDEATLY forgets all of his warcrimes and trusts him without question letting him keep his miraculous he used comit Mass Genocide.
Don’t forget that he knew who Monarch was for the entirety of Season 5 and yet neglected to tell anyone or to even try stealing the Miraculouses back. He even knew that he, Adrien, and Kagami were Sentimonsters the entire time. Did he tell Adrien? Nope. But he’ll tell Kagami, who he barely knows. And then they’ll get together because they’re both Sentimonsters, not because he likes her as a person. And after all of that, after he told Marinette who Monarch was, he just disappeared. He didn’t help her confront Gabriel to clean up Felix’s mess. He didn’t even go and rescue his girlfriend and cousin, who were imprisoned in some far-off place to be used as breeding stock. He did nothing. What a hero he is. It makes me mad that Season 4 has such an epic and consequential ending and yet none of that changed the plot going into Season 5. It was just another season of Akuma Attacks and cheesy romance drama.
This is why Thomas should have kept Felix as the main character. He makes the series become so interesting & the drama thickens. I know Thomas said he couldn’t see Marinette liking a guy like him. But I’ve seen people making great fanfiction & fan made videos of them falling in love. Also how both him & Marinette are opposite to each other. It would make their dynamic be entertaining. He’s great as a villain & how if they did his redemption arc right then he would be an amazing hero too. However funny when people asked Thomas to bring back Felix. He would try to avoid it & any time Felix comes back. Thomas always asks if people still like him & people still do expecting us to be the same
Felix should stayed Marinette's love interest cause at least there would be room for development onto why Marinette would like a tsundere guy and for Felix to grow as a character Adrien is a pure adorable boi and all but he deserves better
Felix is a mastermind. He doesn't follow anyone other than his heart. He knows what he is doing and how to leave no loopholes. A complete hot villain readers gush over in a manwha. The only thing holding him back from going into his full villain arc are his emotions, his family and Kagami. How romantic I always knew someone as excellent as Kagami deserves a smartass.
Honestly, I dunno how to feel about a character who was introduced mid-series and managed to do more than what the two heroes and the main antagonist within a short time. It feels like he just managed by due to sheer dumb luck. He got to know SO many stuff, yet Adrien is completely in the dark about many stuff. Not to mention his half-baked redemption and him getting together with Kagami, which was rushed as heck.
Personally, I consider Felix a very interesting character, direct and with many facets to explore, being one of the few that moves the plot, I would really have liked to see him as Chat Noir Excellent video👌🏼
@ethancox9737 Just cause he's a bad person, that doesn't automatically mean that he's a bad character. They probably like him cause he isn't a cookie cut villain and is more interesting than most of the characters in the show.
I think Félix’s actions against Adrien in his debut episode might have been a jealousy/anger thing. It’s the first time seeing Adrien since getting his amok (he didn’t get it until his father died, and Adrien didn’t go to the funeral), and his first comment to Adrien is “do you always do whatever your father tells you?” in a condescending way. He’d been literally controlled by his father his whole life, so seeing Adrien happily do so while also making excuses probably struck a nerve. And it’s pretty clear that Félix has no friends, and last time he saw Adrien, he was in the same boat (minus Chloe, but who can really call her a real friend)- then Adrien suddenly has all these friends who genuinely care about him. It’s something Adrien has but Félix doesn’t. Remember, the emotion Félix was made from was jealousy (which is why he looks like Adrien), so it’s not a stretch to say that would influence his actions. Plus there’s also using the akuma to try a deal with Hawkmoth (likely to get the Peacock)
What is mind boggling to me is that when they were first drafting the show they were thinking of Felix as the deuteragonits but ultimately they thought he wasnt compeling enough so they scrapped him off....only to make him show up later in the show and gave him the storyline that could have easily been Adriens.
My favourite miraculous creators, Haze and Smarty Pants, one of them LOVES felix while other one HATES felix but I agree with both of their opinions 😭🤣
Felix's first episode: Is it really out of character if he meant to upset a BUNCH of people so at least one person was akumatized so he could use them to talk to Hawkmoth?
The only thing I don't like about Felix is that he's also stealing moments from Adrien... Like discovering important things about his own parents... I'm also scared about what they did to him like putting him in the heroes side by the end...?? I still see some growth needed for him to realize what he wants to do...
I am convinced that the reason Felix's debut episode had him characterized weirdly, is because of Astruc. If I recall at the time a lot of people were advocating for Felix, saying that the original idea was better than what we got with Adrien and stuff like that. Astruc (being the terminally-on-twitter person he is) wanted to make people stop liking Felix, so he made that episode to show us how much of a jerk he is or something. Then I guess they backpedaled and plans changed as they decided to incorporate him more into the story. Source: I'm literally just guessing based on what little info I know. Take it with a grain of salt.
To me it just seems like when Astruc was in charge of the writing, he just couldn’t follow through on a long story arc. Butchering the Chloe redemption arc. Wasting Luka after Wishmaker until Migration and then ignoring him again until the finale. It’ll be interesting to see if in season 6 does he have a more important role. But Felix it seems that they actually followed through with. I’m sure (but hope they don’t) will find a way to screw his character up too
I felt bad for him in his backstory. I really wish he would’ve helped in the S5 finale and help free Adrien and Kagami, and finally kick Gabriel’s butt.
Cat Noir and Agros working together to assist the resistance would have been cool. People say Adrien can't be in the final battle against Monarch because of Cat Blanc, but he can still do something impactful.
@@craigpeoples9883People saying Adrien can’t be in the final battle because of Chat blanc doesn’t make sense because in chat blanc, Gabriel found out Adrien was chat noir before Adrien found out Gabriel’s identity so Gabriel had an advantage over Adrien.
I‘m a little torn because I love Felix, but also his writing isn‘t like crazy brilliant. His character arc and his „redemption“ if you can even call it that were all over the place. He isn‘t really a well written character because, well, that‘s just the faith of every character in this show. However, since he‘s an active character in between a bunch of stagnant characters with equally stagnant character arcs, he stands out. Felix gets shit done and the show doesn‘t really make up it‘s mind whether he‘s good or bad, he‘s like a breath of fresh air the show desperately needed. TLDR: Felix isn‘t a good written character because he‘s a good written character but because the bar is on the floor
Felix whilst Being a bit wonky from his first Appearance being a villian and now well ..a bit of a hero I liked how it progressed Villian=anti hero=hero they managed to just make it ...progressive and actually develope whilst some ppl don't like his Redemption Idc I'm just glad..he's also just funny I mean brittish dog miraculous sentimonster living as a human? LETS GO and he's somehow the smartest and my favourite
Here’s a theory: Felix was trying to get in contact with Hawkmoth when he first appeared. He knew about how Hawkmoth can telepathically communicate with his minions, so Felix figured he could use the Akumatized villain as a messenger. He didn’t know who else he would be in contact with that day, so he targeted Adrien (likely with regret). But, when Adrien’s friends sent their video, he switched targets. As for him forcing himself on Ladybug; maybe he was just testing a theory of his. Maybe how well the two knew each other and where Felix had to draw boundaries in case he had to pose as Adrien again. I don’t know.
Layla has much wasted potential and is show how much is wasted when you see Felix.He is not much as Layla but we know everything about him what we need and we always know episode will be interesting when he is there.
That’s an excellent point, a big reason he is so compelling is that he’s so competent and flawed. I’d also say that they used the “gray” aspect to their advantage in a lot of the earlier episodes because you never really could predict what he’d do next in a given episode. They kept his true motive secret for a while.
Felix is a lot more of a compelling character than even Marinette. I feel like this has to do with the fact that every time he shows up, we know that he has a plan. And with main characters like Marinette, when we see them, we just think they’re gonna goof off and have the regular shenanigans. Felix really walked into Chad territory while all the other characters were getting comfortable😎
And the show version of her is even better too which I think Felix and Cerise would respect about when they both find out about that counterpart and the others in that reality too
Yeah & if he did stay her love interest then I think all the bad stuff Marinette did for Adrien. I don’t think she would have done it. If you think about it. Anytime she’s with other characters she doesn’t act like that & just is herself
@@josratubangura Hopefully his time dating Kagami, and also learning about the movie versions of Ladybug and Cat Noir as well as the other alt versions of everyone else in that reality will teach him to be better than here and even better than the show version of Marinette in his reality here
I really wish they didn't just shove in his redemption arc last minute. Also anyone ever find it strange that kagami got with a dude who looks just like Adrien
I just don't know if this ship would last very long when he and Cerise become a couple instead and Kagami might have to admit to Felix when he refuses to even when he wants it to really work when she takes notice of it when they break up and start a new relationship between him and her instead there
@@hunterrousseau3770 Felix is way too smart to date Cerise. He would be the only one to see that Cerise is a liar and a fake. Why would he dump Kagami and date her?
@@redram6080 He would be aware of her tricks, especially after he learns from the gang about her, and learn about her past using a senti-adaptoid that adapts to any miraculous power using the power of Evolution to glimpse into her past life as a child before capturing and seizing her miraculous before she gets to know him, his mother, and his late abusive father (which she might sympathize with Felix over when she knows about that) and move away from full-time villain to part-time Hero/Villain just like Felix and they even work with each other to achieve his goals which she would like to be a part of and even prevent a dark future where Adrien breaks bad as Cat Blanc if anything ever happened to Marinette/Ladybug, the kids that plan to have together, or Nathalie since they're the only chosen family he has left so far from falling down that worse path than his own dad did once before but this time willing, and they even learn and about the animated movie and Paris special counterparts of Adrienette and GabeNath too for them to appreciate over the show versions are so far and turned out to be in the end before their deaths too. But that's just why I think so
7 hours late but I definitely agree with you. At first I thought Adrian was interested but He quickly became boring. I feel like he should have been the main character instead of Marinette.
I'm curious to see what Félix will be like as a member of Team Miraculous, considering that he's shown reluctance to create Sentibeings just to use and then dispel them, yet there may be times when he will have to create Sentibeings to help the other heroes. It would make for an interesting moral dilemma and would be perfectly in line with the sort of "grey" character that Félix is.
Maybe he and Cerise/Chrysalis could save the show of "Miraculous" when they're the new main anti-heroic antagonists of it and have the main screen focus on them away from the show versions of Ladybug and Cat Noir after they discover about their animated movie counterparts, the counterparts from the "Paris special", and about the "Cat Blanc" alternate timeline future that once existed before with that as a split persona of the show version of Adrien as their Monarch to defeat and prevent a dark future that awaits them because of it think like Symbiote Spider-Man with the "Green Goblin" personality and far worse than his own dad was. And make better changes to work into after what the order of Guardians or Mrs. Bustier as mayor have done when Felix announces his candidaty to be mayor of Paris, France to do that, and even manipulate events to make sure even more better real change is brought to the temple and by catching and replacing some of fellow teammates with senti-twin clones of themselves pretending to be them think like what the Skrulls did in "The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" with their adaptation of "Secret Invasion" if anyone is familiar with that comic storyline after having Optygimis placed anywhere to have eyes and ears everywhere, even creating senti-being Miracu-purifier troops, and even senti-adaptoids that adapt to any miraculous power to their advantage which could be how he'll find out anyone else's identites, and even learn what is Cerise/Chrysalis' deal and why she is the way she is before they get to know each other better more so Felix can have his ways so she doesn't betray he and his mom who would probably co-conspirt with him especially after the episode "Emotion" before. He would probably be the answer to changing the heroes and the order of the Guardians to be better like how Killmonger's actions in "Black Panther" changed T'Challa and Wakanda for the better he be like a mix of the strategic antics of Heath Ledger's Joker or Tom Hardy's Bane affected in "The Dark Knight" or "The Dark Knight Rises", Michael B. Jordan's Killmonger affected "Black Panther" (2018), and Paul Dano's Riddler affected "The Batman" (2021), and he and Cerise/Chrysalis would be inspirations to how the Gabriel Agrestes in the "Paris special", and the animated movie adaptation if what would they do if they were them to show how pathetic the show version was in comparison to those two counterparts even use the interest of the "Friendship Day" in "Ikari Gozen" where Marinette and Kagami became friends in even after she tried to make them lose on purpose when she wanted to be her friend and see Adrien too to his advantage to keep the heroes guessing like how "The Riddler" would do for Batman before even when he has to mislead them from the truth at times too before giving the main focus back to the show versions of Marinette and Adrien in the very series finale much like how "Infinity War" focused more on Thanos than any of the Avengers before "Endgame" gave it back to them and have them and the team team-up with their animated movie, and former "Shadybug and Claw Noir" counterparts as adults and even their Gabe and Nath counterparts too to face Felix, Cerise, and his mother and even have Adrien struggle to face his "Cat Blanc" personality too think like how Peter did with the symbiote in "Intervention" in "The Spectacular Spider-Man" in season one. And *boom* you got yourself one heck of a finale in an animated superhero show anywhere here, but of couse that's just what I would do it here if I was Jeremy Zag here
@@PancakeRights I’m honestly a bit on the fence, because I agree that he is an extremely compelling character but the whole senti monster thing was rushed.
No, I don't think the actual show needs to be good to have a fandom. The concept just needs to be good. I don't like the show, but there are fanfic writers out there actually writing the characters to their full potential. I just like the idea the show presents but never delivers on.
I hope he doesn't get away with what he did. Don't get me wrong, I love Felix, but this man betrayed Marinette trust and handed Gabriel most of the Miraculous. Gabriel could have actually won.
True, but he did realize he was wrong to, and for trying to erase everyone before. And maybe he'll find new ways to achieve his goals that he's still on about here
Where was he during the season 5 finale? He could have rescued Adrien and Kagami but NOOOOO! They had to give all the spotlight to Ladybug and the useless side characters instead, when the main arc is about her partner. Also, how was Plagg able to get the cat miraculous through the door?
Fr. Félix is literally the best written character in the show. He grew up with an abusive father, his abusive father died, and he was also secretly a sentimonster. He is also the reason why Season 5 was so action-filled, as he gave most of the Miraculouses to Gabriel for the Peacock miraculous. He also sorta became Thanos 2.0 in “Emotion,” and he basically won, until he was convinced that his powers could cause disaster and stopped using them for those purposes, also because he cared about sentimonsters, as they were just like him, and he knew that they were also living beings.
I think Felix acted out of character in his debut episode because he wasn't used to having the ring that contains his amok. So he wasn't used to having control of his own life, which led him to try to ruin Adrian's relationship with his friends and tried to kiss Ladybug. That's my theory.
And he probably stole the ring against his will? Oh, and violence to Lady Bug can be justified. I am seriously sorry that you write such nonsense. you have only to justify the genocide of Paris in season 5 with a good purpose.
The blood moon episode was the perfect episode for Adrien to reveal he is Chat Noir to both Kagami and Felix. We know he has been getting 'edgier' as Chat Noir and doesn't have an issue with borderline cataclysming anyone who crosses him or Marinette (who for some reason is the love of his life now?? Like that was so forced and unreal but that's a discussion for another day) so him transforming and holding Felix at cataclysm instead of sitting there whining would've been more impact. And hey, maybe that reveal would've incentivised his appearance in the finale of the arc of HIS FAMILY (its literally called the AGRESTE ARC and he wasn't there... what the heck?!?!)
Felix (Thomas Austruc's pet Karma Houdini) is an awful person who needs to be punished, or have you forgotten that he handed nearly all of the miraculous' over to Hawkmoth/Shadowmoth/Monarch?
You know the reason why Adrien wasn’t there at the final battle against Gabriel was because their secret identities still needed to be hidden yes they can finally be in a relationship from now on now Gabriel is gone but they need to keep the plot still more interesting.
be hosnest with me what will you change\delete in the episode "felix" with felix's charecter to make it make snice later on without changing the end of the episode? like he will still steal thee ring from gabe but without making his hate adrian with no reason?
Felix is always going to be a great character for not only erasing Marinette’s icky love confession in Felix’s debut episode. But also snapping Marinette aka ladybug out of existence in Emotion.
It’s ironic on how Adrien’s BETA has been written much more better compared to Adrien… sad tho And unlike gabe FÉLIX ACTUALLY GETS THINGS DONE, LIKE USING THE BALL WAS SO SMART
And that's why his relationship with his mother, and his bond with Kagami why he'll be able to change Cerise/Chrysalis from villain to anti-hero. An antagonist still but an antagonist with standards now, think like the movie versions of Ladybug and Cat Noir but if they were anti-heroes though which maybe misguided at times but still...
For me he suffers from the same issue lila does . Hes not dumb but everyone around him is . Felix is cool but in regards to how Marinette treats him ...... Infact i take back the cool part, he tried to kiss ladybug unconsentially just to make Adrien look bad , stole the miraculous told kagami marinettes secret and destroyed man kind. All of these things are worse than anything Chole did and he's still active and aloud to keep his miraculous? Marinette doesn't even know who gabe shared his info with ......why was he an exception. Half his story feel like scrapped chloe episode after thomas's presuned change of heart .
True. Adrien is great but they don’t know what to do with him & have the show be repetitive. With Felix something interesting is happening & it changes everything
Felix is a really good villain. I don’t care for him as a hero. He should’ve remained an anti-hero, but because he is dating Kagami, that’s why he is a hero now (Don’t care for Kagami and Felix relationship). But can we stop the double standard in the fandom. People hate Marinette for being a “stalker” but Felix actually stalks and kidnaps kagami and sa’s ladybug. So why aren’t we keeping that same energy?
The one (recurring) villain is the one who is fighting for a cause that is hard to disagree with. Felix could be but is underused. See an African or Arabic character who uses the miraclous to get revenge for French imperialism, against government targets.
Honestly no…none of the charecters are well written. It kinda is a waste of time to invest in any of them Cus the writers can easily take away there depth if they just want to make them truely evil and”irredeemable”
That's it, At any point in season 6 they could simply demote him, and make him smaller than when he started, forgetting all his "progress" and "development" he had on the show.
I disagree. Felix is made simply to move the plot. He is full of plot armour and only appears when the writers are too lazy and need to come up with an idea. Ladybug wouldn't have forgiven Felix for the literal sexual abuse but because of plot armour, he's now a hero. In fact, i think he's one of the worst written because he has no build up, if you count season 5 episode emotion as enough build up and something that makes marinette forgive him and makes everyone trust him, that's just badly written. He lied, stole the miraculouses, and now he's trusted with a miraculous. I'd like anyone who disagrees to tell me why
Do you really think they were right to forgive him so easily after the Red Moon? Even if he did have a sympathetic reason, he should have had to do a lot more to atone for that.
I wonder why he didn't go to save his cousin and his beloved kagami in LONDON? Where was he at this tense moment? Did he stay in France? Or was he in England but didn't know anything was going on Questions and more questions?
Well in recent times not really. They tried to give him a terrible redemption arc and tried to convince us he is an actually good person when he literally gave all the miraculous to Gabriel and harassed Marinette in his debut episode. They honestly ruined him and I don’t care about him anymore. I treat him like Marinette now. A pathetically written charecter.
Eh, I disagree. To me, Felix just presents Plot Armor. He gets away with absolutely everything that he does and he somehow manages to get such luck every time he appears that he rushes the plot forward at breakneck speed. And all of this in a show where the main plot didn’t move anywhere for three seasons. Felix is a plot device that the creators used to avoid actually moving the plot. If Marinette or Adrien found out Gabe’s identity or about the Sentimonster conspiracy, things would have actually had to have changed before the Finale. The main characters would have actually had time to process these revelations and move the plot forward in a meaningful and timely way. Instead, Felix sat on the knowledge he knew for an entire season, got off scot-free for all of the things he did, somehow charmed Kagami despite all of that, and then dropped it on Marinette randomly right as the Season Finale started. Great writing right there. Didn’t even tell his cousin either.
Lol no. Felix has no consistency, so he can do whatever to move the plot into doing smth. This makes him a catalyst, not a well written character. I get the confusion though
I can't help but say that Natalie is as much, if not the best, written character in the show. Felix is second, but it's not hard for the two of them compared to the rest of the show
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian and Felix was a jerk who either attempted to ruin Adrian’s life or harassed ladybug. But Natalie has always had some depth. Sure, she “simped” for Gabe but she always made it apparent she hated the neglect and then future abuse he did on Adrian. She did more the whole last season then Felix ever did, complete turning on Gabe episode one. Felix had what? One small mystery plot, an episode where he turned on ladybug, one he was a menace to society, and let’s not forget the whole flashback acting. Plus they took Kagami and just made her fall in love with Adrian’s basically twin…for what?
Literally the best episodes involve Felix. Proves someone in the writing room knew how to write a compelling character.
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Why do you find him compelling even though his backstory was out of nowhere?
Personally, I would prefer that plot not move forward at all than have someone other than the heroes do it, though of course that wouldn't be my first choice.
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Because he is! He’s the most interesting character. I’m sorry but if we compare him with the others then you see the difference! I mean I barely know their friend’s name🤣. I only know Alya. They are all boring and lame.
@@aronsmith2688 I didn't think they were that boring.
Felix is the ultimate menace man does not lose. When he shows up you know things are going to get big. The season 4 finale is honestly proof he's just that Guy and let's not forget he straight up won when he used the red moon sentimonster
Why do you like him getting away with so many nasty things? Did you not like Marinette and the gang that much?
@@ethancox9737 Mars is genuinely one of my favorites in this show but you gotta admit things get more interesting when Felix is doing shenanigans
@@njivwathomassilavwe2056 Maybe, but I'd honestly have preferred a boring story where Ladybug won over what happened in Strikeback and Emotion. Do you have that much emotional attachment to the characters?
He put Ladybug in checkmate in ONE episode, while Gabriel struggled for 5 seasons straight 😂
AND he won with the dog miraculous
Felix is just Mr. Let Us Advance The Plot, and I think that's part of why I love him. The world is actually moving whenever he's around. It's great.
The best episodes are the ones that involve felix because he moves the plot along quickly 😅
Plot armour.
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Except Gabriel agreste!
You might like that, but I think that just makes how the main characters are written look worse. Did you ever like Marinette and Adrien that much?
facts!
Something I really hated was how random the sentimonster reveal was. A lot of people theorized it, but it felt like the show didn't really set it up.
But it does..
In Félix (season 3) :
- We learn that he father died.
- Her mother say that his changed since his father death.
- He litterally ask Adrien if he obey every of his father's order.
In season 4 :
- Gabriel say that he can make him disappear with just a snap of his finger.
- He steal the Peacok Miraculous in the end of the season.
- All the setup about the twins rings in season 3/4/5.
Everything are here in the show...
@@mimiquoi7380 A lot of the stuff you mentioned doesn't automatically confirm that--those could've easily been unrelated to the reveal, especially when it's not confirmed until season 5, which is a super long time, making me think this was in response to fan feedback. And again, the episode it's confirmed in is so random.
@@OpticalSorcerer for me you're just in a denial state.
For me it's pretty clear that this backstory was written in advance.
@@mimiquoi7380 I just didn't see things the way you did.
It's true that they've been very vague hints, but they've been there.
Adrien is alwas described as "perfect"
Cousins can look alike, but not like exact replicas, even if their moms are twins. Besides the looks, being the same age and height is too big of a coincidence.
In Wishmaker we see that Adrien doesn't really have a fantasy beyond 'being what his parents want'
Felix had one of the most half assed redemtion arcs I ever have seen. This guy caused every bad thing in season 5 by stealing the miraculous. Then he comes along and casualy comits Mass Genocide. Ladybug doesn't even try to pursue him after that even if she knows where he f*ing lives.
And then he becomes a simp for Kagami and Marinette IMIDEATLY forgets all of his warcrimes and trusts him without question letting him keep his miraculous he used comit Mass Genocide.
Don’t forget that he knew who Monarch was for the entirety of Season 5 and yet neglected to tell anyone or to even try stealing the Miraculouses back.
He even knew that he, Adrien, and Kagami were Sentimonsters the entire time. Did he tell Adrien? Nope. But he’ll tell Kagami, who he barely knows. And then they’ll get together because they’re both Sentimonsters, not because he likes her as a person.
And after all of that, after he told Marinette who Monarch was, he just disappeared. He didn’t help her confront Gabriel to clean up Felix’s mess. He didn’t even go and rescue his girlfriend and cousin, who were imprisoned in some far-off place to be used as breeding stock. He did nothing.
What a hero he is. It makes me mad that Season 4 has such an epic and consequential ending and yet none of that changed the plot going into Season 5. It was just another season of Akuma Attacks and cheesy romance drama.
Do you think the people who like him just don't value the lives of fictional characters as much?
@@Doomzdeh The writing for this show is a joke.
Felix was never a villain
This is why Thomas should have kept Felix as the main character. He makes the series become so interesting & the drama thickens. I know Thomas said he couldn’t see Marinette liking a guy like him. But I’ve seen people making great fanfiction & fan made videos of them falling in love.
Also how both him & Marinette are opposite to each other. It would make their dynamic be entertaining. He’s great as a villain & how if they did his redemption arc right then he would be an amazing hero too.
However funny when people asked Thomas to bring back Felix. He would try to avoid it & any time Felix comes back. Thomas always asks if people still like him & people still do expecting us to be the same
Those fanfics were amazing and I agree a redemption story for felix would be good.
True but there’s no way Felix would’ve been unable to figure out his dad was HawkMoth for to long, especially after discovering the miraculous book
@@BlueBlazeKing true but if Felix was still Gabriel’s son. Of course the reveal would hit him hard too
Felix should stayed Marinette's love interest cause at least there would be room for development onto why Marinette would like a tsundere guy and for Felix to grow as a character
Adrien is a pure adorable boi and all but he deserves better
Felix is a mastermind. He doesn't follow anyone other than his heart. He knows what he is doing and how to leave no loopholes. A complete hot villain readers gush over in a manwha. The only thing holding him back from going into his full villain arc are his emotions, his family and Kagami. How romantic I always knew someone as excellent as Kagami deserves a smartass.
Honestly, I dunno how to feel about a character who was introduced mid-series and managed to do more than what the two heroes and the main antagonist within a short time. It feels like he just managed by due to sheer dumb luck. He got to know SO many stuff, yet Adrien is completely in the dark about many stuff. Not to mention his half-baked redemption and him getting together with Kagami, which was rushed as heck.
Felix was created by Toei like an anime character, I have doubts that the european team really knew how to use him.
An actual genius enters the arena and we see our main characters for the average people chosen by fate that they are.
They put a lot more work writing Felix compared everyone else
Like Cloe 😂
bc he was created by Toei, and no by Astruc.
Personally, I consider Felix a very interesting character, direct and with many facets to explore, being one of the few that moves the plot, I would really have liked to see him as Chat Noir
Excellent video👌🏼
Yes, I believe the show would be much more interesting if he was Chat noir from the beginning.
Would you have wanted him to be nicer from the beginning if he was Chat Noir?
felix is my fav character he is like a better lila and gabriel combine
Why do you like him even though he did so many nasty things?
@ethancox9737 Just cause he's a bad person, that doesn't automatically mean that he's a bad character. They probably like him cause he isn't a cookie cut villain and is more interesting than most of the characters in the show.
@@pasta7697 Got it. I actually thought Marinette and Adrien were plenty interesting before the writing went down the toilet.
I think Félix’s actions against Adrien in his debut episode might have been a jealousy/anger thing. It’s the first time seeing Adrien since getting his amok (he didn’t get it until his father died, and Adrien didn’t go to the funeral), and his first comment to Adrien is “do you always do whatever your father tells you?” in a condescending way. He’d been literally controlled by his father his whole life, so seeing Adrien happily do so while also making excuses probably struck a nerve. And it’s pretty clear that Félix has no friends, and last time he saw Adrien, he was in the same boat (minus Chloe, but who can really call her a real friend)- then Adrien suddenly has all these friends who genuinely care about him. It’s something Adrien has but Félix doesn’t. Remember, the emotion Félix was made from was jealousy (which is why he looks like Adrien), so it’s not a stretch to say that would influence his actions.
Plus there’s also using the akuma to try a deal with Hawkmoth (likely to get the Peacock)
EXAXTLY!!!!!!! I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT
Plot armor heroes are doomed against him, he squashes ladybug hand to hand
What is mind boggling to me is that when they were first drafting the show they were thinking of Felix as the deuteragonits but ultimately they thought he wasnt compeling enough so they scrapped him off....only to make him show up later in the show and gave him the storyline that could have easily been Adriens.
My favourite miraculous creators, Haze and Smarty Pants, one of them LOVES felix while other one HATES felix but I agree with both of their opinions 😭🤣
Who hates Felix!!!
@@spoiledbrat3929probably Haze
You should check out her video! Its really detailed @@spoiledbrat3929
My 2 faves as well! I agree with haze like usual though. Felix sucks
I used to be a fan of Haze but nowadays her takes are so Biased
Felix's first episode: Is it really out of character if he meant to upset a BUNCH of people so at least one person was akumatized so he could use them to talk to Hawkmoth?
The only thing I don't like about Felix is that he's also stealing moments from Adrien... Like discovering important things about his own parents...
I'm also scared about what they did to him like putting him in the heroes side by the end...?? I still see some growth needed for him to realize what he wants to do...
honestly I still don't trust him because we know he is a genuinely good actor
I am convinced that the reason Felix's debut episode had him characterized weirdly, is because of Astruc. If I recall at the time a lot of people were advocating for Felix, saying that the original idea was better than what we got with Adrien and stuff like that. Astruc (being the terminally-on-twitter person he is) wanted to make people stop liking Felix, so he made that episode to show us how much of a jerk he is or something. Then I guess they backpedaled and plans changed as they decided to incorporate him more into the story.
Source: I'm literally just guessing based on what little info I know. Take it with a grain of salt.
To me it just seems like when Astruc was in charge of the writing, he just couldn’t follow through on a long story arc. Butchering the Chloe redemption arc. Wasting Luka after Wishmaker until Migration and then ignoring him again until the finale. It’ll be interesting to see if in season 6 does he have a more important role.
But Felix it seems that they actually followed through with. I’m sure (but hope they don’t) will find a way to screw his character up too
Felix has mastered 'Plot bending' 👁️👅👁️
I felt bad for him in his backstory. I really wish he would’ve helped in the S5 finale and help free Adrien and Kagami, and finally kick Gabriel’s butt.
Cat Noir and Agros working together to assist the resistance would have been cool. People say Adrien can't be in the final battle against Monarch because of Cat Blanc, but he can still do something impactful.
@@craigpeoples9883People saying Adrien can’t be in the final battle because of Chat blanc doesn’t make sense because in chat blanc, Gabriel found out Adrien was chat noir before Adrien found out Gabriel’s identity so Gabriel had an advantage over Adrien.
@@Sparklecakes13I know THAT. But he’s an important part of the story! Cat Blanc, Shmat Schmanc, he can’t be left in the dark anymore!
I‘m a little torn because I love Felix, but also his writing isn‘t like crazy brilliant. His character arc and his „redemption“ if you can even call it that were all over the place. He isn‘t really a well written character because, well, that‘s just the faith of every character in this show.
However, since he‘s an active character in between a bunch of stagnant characters with equally stagnant character arcs, he stands out. Felix gets shit done and the show doesn‘t really make up it‘s mind whether he‘s good or bad, he‘s like a breath of fresh air the show desperately needed.
TLDR: Felix isn‘t a good written character because he‘s a good written character but because the bar is on the floor
Felix has appeared in 9 out of 131 episodes, not even a tenth of the show and he has so much development compared to the main protagonists.
Felix has been my favourite character since the very first episode he was in
Felix whilst Being a bit wonky from his first Appearance being a villian and now well ..a bit of a hero I liked how it progressed
Villian=anti hero=hero they managed to just make it ...progressive and actually develope whilst some ppl don't like his Redemption Idc I'm just glad..he's also just funny I mean brittish dog miraculous sentimonster living as a human? LETS GO and he's somehow the smartest and my favourite
Here’s a theory: Felix was trying to get in contact with Hawkmoth when he first appeared. He knew about how Hawkmoth can telepathically communicate with his minions, so Felix figured he could use the Akumatized villain as a messenger. He didn’t know who else he would be in contact with that day, so he targeted Adrien (likely with regret). But, when Adrien’s friends sent their video, he switched targets.
As for him forcing himself on Ladybug; maybe he was just testing a theory of his. Maybe how well the two knew each other and where Felix had to draw boundaries in case he had to pose as Adrien again.
I don’t know.
Forgot to add this: He likely wanted to get in contact with Hawkmoth because he was a lead he was following to find the Peacock Miraculous.
Who ever made felix is a genius I mean look at the other characters have had 5 seasons and still haven’t had as much success as him he is the goat
I'm not sure I'd call it genius, more like everyone else being a bit dim.
Layla has much wasted potential and is show how much is wasted when you see Felix.He is not much as Layla but we know everything about him what we need and we always know episode will be interesting when he is there.
The fact that some people actually said that Felix was just like Lila
Well if you look at it from another angle it kind of works I don’t know he really isn’t like Lila at all Lila is hatable and Felix is likable
I haven't seen any Felix Episodes of the Show but you made me want to Watch 'Em!
Thanks!
That’s an excellent point, a big reason he is so compelling is that he’s so competent and flawed. I’d also say that they used the “gray” aspect to their advantage in a lot of the earlier episodes because you never really could predict what he’d do next in a given episode. They kept his true motive secret for a while.
Felix is sooooo sweet, yet even interesting too...hes my fave❤along with others!😅❤
In Miraculous Office AU, Felix is even better as a character!!
Best au ever 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Felix is a lot more of a compelling character than even Marinette. I feel like this has to do with the fact that every time he shows up, we know that he has a plan. And with main characters like Marinette, when we see them, we just think they’re gonna goof off and have the regular shenanigans. Felix really walked into Chad territory while all the other characters were getting comfortable😎
At least he's better than the unhealthy Marinette.💀
Exactly!
And the show version of her is even better too which I think Felix and Cerise would respect about when they both find out about that counterpart and the others in that reality too
Yeah & if he did stay her love interest then I think all the bad stuff Marinette did for Adrien. I don’t think she would have done it. If you think about it. Anytime she’s with other characters she doesn’t act like that & just is herself
Felix is a kidnapper, stalker and he sa ladybug, how is Marinette worse?
@@josratubangura Hopefully his time dating Kagami, and also learning about the movie versions of Ladybug and Cat Noir as well as the other alt versions of everyone else in that reality will teach him to be better than here and even better than the show version of Marinette in his reality here
He is smarter than everyone in Paris combined Felix is the best character and best written in the fever dream that is this show
I really wish they didn't just shove in his redemption arc last minute. Also anyone ever find it strange that kagami got with a dude who looks just like Adrien
Yes, it's like Félix was everything she wanted Adrien to be for her, so she found that in Félix.
I just don't know if this ship would last very long when he and Cerise become a couple instead and Kagami might have to admit to Felix when he refuses to even when he wants it to really work when she takes notice of it when they break up and start a new relationship between him and her instead there
@@hunterrousseau3770 Felix is way too smart to date Cerise. He would be the only one to see that Cerise is a liar and a fake. Why would he dump Kagami and date her?
@@redram6080 He would be aware of her tricks, especially after he learns from the gang about her, and learn about her past using a senti-adaptoid that adapts to any miraculous power using the power of Evolution to glimpse into her past life as a child before capturing and seizing her miraculous before she gets to know him, his mother, and his late abusive father (which she might sympathize with Felix over when she knows about that) and move away from full-time villain to part-time Hero/Villain just like Felix and they even work with each other to achieve his goals which she would like to be a part of and even prevent a dark future where Adrien breaks bad as Cat Blanc if anything ever happened to Marinette/Ladybug, the kids that plan to have together, or Nathalie since they're the only chosen family he has left so far from falling down that worse path than his own dad did once before but this time willing, and they even learn and about the animated movie and Paris special counterparts of Adrienette and GabeNath too for them to appreciate over the show versions are so far and turned out to be in the end before their deaths too. But that's just why I think so
Future writers will probably use this show as an example of what not to do.
Felix has always been one of my favorites, imagine if they made him the protagonist of some of season 6 or smth
Why do you like him even though he got away with so many nasty things?
7 hours late but I definitely agree with you.
At first I thought Adrian was interested but He quickly became boring. I feel like he should have been the main character instead of Marinette.
Felix fathom is my favorite character. His so fucking cool and smart . Felix has a crush on Kagami.
I'm curious to see what Félix will be like as a member of Team Miraculous, considering that he's shown reluctance to create Sentibeings just to use and then dispel them, yet there may be times when he will have to create Sentibeings to help the other heroes. It would make for an interesting moral dilemma and would be perfectly in line with the sort of "grey" character that Félix is.
Felix is growing on me sort of
I see at the beginning when he framed Adrian as him wanting to talk to gave without giving away he knows
Maybe he and Cerise/Chrysalis could save the show of "Miraculous" when they're the new main anti-heroic antagonists of it and have the main screen focus on them away from the show versions of Ladybug and Cat Noir after they discover about their animated movie counterparts, the counterparts from the "Paris special", and about the "Cat Blanc" alternate timeline future that once existed before with that as a split persona of the show version of Adrien as their Monarch to defeat and prevent a dark future that awaits them because of it think like Symbiote Spider-Man with the "Green Goblin" personality and far worse than his own dad was. And make better changes to work into after what the order of Guardians or Mrs. Bustier as mayor have done when Felix announces his candidaty to be mayor of Paris, France to do that, and even manipulate events to make sure even more better real change is brought to the temple and by catching and replacing some of fellow teammates with senti-twin clones of themselves pretending to be them think like what the Skrulls did in "The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" with their adaptation of "Secret Invasion" if anyone is familiar with that comic storyline after having Optygimis placed anywhere to have eyes and ears everywhere, even creating senti-being Miracu-purifier troops, and even senti-adaptoids that adapt to any miraculous power to their advantage which could be how he'll find out anyone else's identites, and even learn what is Cerise/Chrysalis' deal and why she is the way she is before they get to know each other better more so Felix can have his ways so she doesn't betray he and his mom who would probably co-conspirt with him especially after the episode "Emotion" before. He would probably be the answer to changing the heroes and the order of the Guardians to be better like how Killmonger's actions in "Black Panther" changed T'Challa and Wakanda for the better he be like a mix of the strategic antics of Heath Ledger's Joker or Tom Hardy's Bane affected in "The Dark Knight" or "The Dark Knight Rises", Michael B. Jordan's Killmonger affected "Black Panther" (2018), and Paul Dano's Riddler affected "The Batman" (2021), and he and Cerise/Chrysalis would be inspirations to how the Gabriel Agrestes in the "Paris special", and the animated movie adaptation if what would they do if they were them to show how pathetic the show version was in comparison to those two counterparts even use the interest of the "Friendship Day" in "Ikari Gozen" where Marinette and Kagami became friends in even after she tried to make them lose on purpose when she wanted to be her friend and see Adrien too to his advantage to keep the heroes guessing like how "The Riddler" would do for Batman before even when he has to mislead them from the truth at times too before giving the main focus back to the show versions of Marinette and Adrien in the very series finale much like how "Infinity War" focused more on Thanos than any of the Avengers before "Endgame" gave it back to them and have them and the team team-up with their animated movie, and former "Shadybug and Claw Noir" counterparts as adults and even their Gabe and Nath counterparts too to face Felix, Cerise, and his mother and even have Adrien struggle to face his "Cat Blanc" personality too think like how Peter did with the symbiote in "Intervention" in "The Spectacular Spider-Man" in season one. And *boom* you got yourself one heck of a finale in an animated superhero show anywhere here, but of couse that's just what I would do it here if I was Jeremy Zag here
Too early I want more comments 😭
About 130 episodes including all seasons and movie time.
Who is here after watching Haze Clarke on why Felix is the worst character LOL
Me lol
@@Trouble9 who do you agree with I agree with smarty pants
@@PancakeRights I’m honestly a bit on the fence, because I agree that he is an extremely compelling character but the whole senti monster thing was rushed.
I'm here after watching the latest episode of Miraculous Office AU 😌
@@Pollares_iceI see you‘re a person of culture as well
Dam I’m here within 30 mins 🤸🏾♀️ feels weird..
u ate with this one friend!
No, I don't think the actual show needs to be good to have a fandom. The concept just needs to be good. I don't like the show, but there are fanfic writers out there actually writing the characters to their full potential. I just like the idea the show presents but never delivers on.
Poor Felix
He had such a dark backstory
If only all miraculous characters had a brain
I hope he doesn't get away with what he did. Don't get me wrong, I love Felix, but this man betrayed Marinette trust and handed Gabriel most of the Miraculous. Gabriel could have actually won.
True, but he did realize he was wrong to, and for trying to erase everyone before. And maybe he'll find new ways to achieve his goals that he's still on about here
Future writers will probably use this show as an example of what not to do.
This is why I am enjoying cosplay him, depth to his character
FELIX IS MY FAVVVVVVV!!!!
Another "Felix is great video"....
Just shows how true the statement is 😉
You know what would have made Season 5 finale better? If Felix was there.
And if he told Marinette not to trust Gabriel. Actually just have Felix kill Gabriel. That would make for a better finale!
Where was he during the season 5 finale? He could have rescued Adrien and Kagami but NOOOOO! They had to give all the spotlight to Ladybug and the useless side characters instead, when the main arc is about her partner. Also, how was Plagg able to get the cat miraculous through the door?
Fr. Félix is literally the best written character in the show. He grew up with an abusive father, his abusive father died, and he was also secretly a sentimonster. He is also the reason why Season 5 was so action-filled, as he gave most of the Miraculouses to Gabriel for the Peacock miraculous. He also sorta became Thanos 2.0 in “Emotion,” and he basically won, until he was convinced that his powers could cause disaster and stopped using them for those purposes, also because he cared about sentimonsters, as they were just like him, and he knew that they were also living beings.
The saying check yourself Before you reck yourself comes to mind... Good guy just NOT A GOOD GUY!!!
Felix is a better villian than gabe
Yes, he is the best character on the show, i wish they would have kept him as the original cat noir👍🏼
The show certainly wouldn't have 5 seasons if she was Chat noir. 😅
I know but he looked like he could have still been cool
@@Pollares_ice Felix is a he. Not a she.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian Sorry, My broker sucks!!! 😣
@@Pollares_ice No worries.
I think Felix acted out of character in his debut episode because he wasn't used to having the ring that contains his amok. So he wasn't used to having control of his own life, which led him to try to ruin Adrian's relationship with his friends and tried to kiss Ladybug. That's my theory.
+ a stupid attempt to justify him has been credited to you. This is called the character of a bastard who was jealous of his cousin at that moment.
And he probably stole the ring against his will? Oh, and violence to Lady Bug can be justified. I am seriously sorry that you write such nonsense. you have only to justify the genocide of Paris in season 5 with a good purpose.
Felix is hot
and he also got the legit cat miraculous
No he didn’t. If you’re talking about Emotion. That was just a decoy.
The blood moon episode was the perfect episode for Adrien to reveal he is Chat Noir to both Kagami and Felix. We know he has been getting 'edgier' as Chat Noir and doesn't have an issue with borderline cataclysming anyone who crosses him or Marinette (who for some reason is the love of his life now?? Like that was so forced and unreal but that's a discussion for another day) so him transforming and holding Felix at cataclysm instead of sitting there whining would've been more impact. And hey, maybe that reveal would've incentivised his appearance in the finale of the arc of HIS FAMILY (its literally called the AGRESTE ARC and he wasn't there... what the heck?!?!)
Adrien wouldn’t cataclysm his cousin.
Felix made me stay watching Miraculous
Felix (Thomas Austruc's pet Karma Houdini) is an awful person who needs to be punished, or have you forgotten that he handed nearly all of the miraculous' over to Hawkmoth/Shadowmoth/Monarch?
No one will punish you if you have big ass moon that able to evaporate everybody
You know the reason why Adrien wasn’t there at the final battle against Gabriel was because their secret identities still needed to be hidden yes they can finally be in a relationship from now on now Gabriel is gone but they need to keep the plot still more interesting.
Riiiiight. Because Marinette forgiving a terroist is such a great way to make tension. Haha. Fuck the season 5 finale to the deepest pits of Tartarus!
felix is a brain haver in a world full of brainless people, it’s why bro can’t stop winning.
Hm, fair points and opinions, i wonder what will be next for him and the whole Sentimonster Plotline?
What would you like to see?
My best guess is hes given more presumed pizzaz out of the rest by favouritism
be hosnest with me what will you change\delete in the episode "felix" with felix's charecter to make it make snice later on without changing the end of the episode? like he will still steal thee ring from gabe but without making his hate adrian with no reason?
Felix is always going to be a great character for not only erasing Marinette’s icky love confession in Felix’s debut episode. But also snapping Marinette aka ladybug out of existence in Emotion.
Felix is a kidnapper, a stalker, and he sa ladybug but you hate Marinette 😂
@@josratubanguraApparently you’re new here.
@@MGory828 you’re*
@@josratubangura Yes. You’re. Thanks for the correction. But long story short, she has her reasons to like Felix, and her reasons to hate Marinette.
@@MGory828 Exactly! Thank you MG! ☺️
8:29 He did that thing.
It’s ironic on how Adrien’s BETA has been written much more better compared to Adrien… sad tho
And unlike gabe FÉLIX ACTUALLY GETS THINGS DONE, LIKE USING THE BALL WAS SO SMART
If you don't mind, why did the idea of sentimonsters being able to be real people not feel out of left field to you?
And that's why his relationship with his mother, and his bond with Kagami why he'll be able to change Cerise/Chrysalis from villain to anti-hero. An antagonist still but an antagonist with standards now, think like the movie versions of Ladybug and Cat Noir but if they were anti-heroes though which maybe misguided at times but still...
Personally find it a let down we will never see Flairmidable again
He is a genius
For real? I...
For me he suffers from the same issue lila does . Hes not dumb but everyone around him is .
Felix is cool but in regards to how Marinette treats him ......
Infact i take back the cool part, he tried to kiss ladybug unconsentially just to make Adrien look bad , stole the miraculous told kagami marinettes secret and destroyed man kind.
All of these things are worse than anything Chole did and he's still active and aloud to keep his miraculous?
Marinette doesn't even know who gabe shared his info with ......why was he an exception.
Half his story feel like scrapped chloe episode after thomas's presuned change of heart .
Felix>>>>> Adrien the slaved
🤡
True. Adrien is great but they don’t know what to do with him & have the show be repetitive. With Felix something interesting is happening & it changes everything
@@littlesparrow303 Eh. Fair point.
@@littlesparrow303also:
1.Anime Felix version
2.Felix 3D
3. Adrien ( who is this brat?, he should never existed)
Not since season 4 it’s not basic, not it’s real.
Can I ask isn’t it a coincidence that Felix and fathom have the first letter and Adrian and agrest have A
Felix is a really good villain. I don’t care for him as a hero. He should’ve remained an anti-hero, but because he is dating Kagami, that’s why he is a hero now (Don’t care for Kagami and Felix relationship). But can we stop the double standard in the fandom. People hate Marinette for being a “stalker” but Felix actually stalks and kidnaps kagami and sa’s ladybug. So why aren’t we keeping that same energy?
The one (recurring) villain is the one who is fighting for a cause that is hard to disagree with.
Felix could be but is underused.
See an African or Arabic character who uses the miraclous to get revenge for French imperialism, against government targets.
Honestly no…none of the charecters are well written. It kinda is a waste of time to invest in any of them Cus the writers can easily take away there depth if they just want to make them truely evil and”irredeemable”
That's it, At any point in season 6 they could simply demote him, and make him smaller than when he started, forgetting all his "progress" and "development" he had on the show.
This whole show is wasted potential.
I disagree. Felix is made simply to move the plot. He is full of plot armour and only appears when the writers are too lazy and need to come up with an idea. Ladybug wouldn't have forgiven Felix for the literal sexual abuse but because of plot armour, he's now a hero. In fact, i think he's one of the worst written because he has no build up, if you count season 5 episode emotion as enough build up and something that makes marinette forgive him and makes everyone trust him, that's just badly written. He lied, stole the miraculouses, and now he's trusted with a miraculous. I'd like anyone who disagrees to tell me why
He litera committed genocide
The writing of this show is a mess.
Do you really think they were right to forgive him so easily after the Red Moon? Even if he did have a sympathetic reason, he should have had to do a lot more to atone for that.
Unfortunately, I hate Felix's character and his character, as well as his pitch in season 5 and cheap redemption.
I wonder why he didn't go to save his cousin and his beloved kagami in LONDON? Where was he at this tense moment? Did he stay in France? Or was he in England but didn't know anything was going on
Questions and more questions?
I love Felix but I agree he have cheap redemption, he should stay bad.
@@happyblue4940 Or an anti hero.
There's 108 episodes of miraculous
Well in recent times not really. They tried to give him a terrible redemption arc and tried to convince us he is an actually good person when he literally gave all the miraculous to Gabriel and harassed Marinette in his debut episode. They honestly ruined him and I don’t care about him anymore. I treat him like Marinette now. A pathetically written charecter.
Felix is the best
2:11
Eh, I disagree. To me, Felix just presents Plot Armor.
He gets away with absolutely everything that he does and he somehow manages to get such luck every time he appears that he rushes the plot forward at breakneck speed. And all of this in a show where the main plot didn’t move anywhere for three seasons.
Felix is a plot device that the creators used to avoid actually moving the plot. If Marinette or Adrien found out Gabe’s identity or about the Sentimonster conspiracy, things would have actually had to have changed before the Finale. The main characters would have actually had time to process these revelations and move the plot forward in a meaningful and timely way.
Instead, Felix sat on the knowledge he knew for an entire season, got off scot-free for all of the things he did, somehow charmed Kagami despite all of that, and then dropped it on Marinette randomly right as the Season Finale started. Great writing right there.
Didn’t even tell his cousin either.
Lol no. Felix has no consistency, so he can do whatever to move the plot into doing smth. This makes him a catalyst, not a well written character. I get the confusion though
I can't help but say that Natalie is as much, if not the best, written character in the show. Felix is second, but it's not hard for the two of them compared to the rest of the show
All Natalie did was simp for Gabriel half the flipping show. She’s a great character. But only when she’s not simping for Gabriel!
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian and Felix was a jerk who either attempted to ruin Adrian’s life or harassed ladybug. But Natalie has always had some depth. Sure, she “simped” for Gabe but she always made it apparent she hated the neglect and then future abuse he did on Adrian. She did more the whole last season then Felix ever did, complete turning on Gabe episode one. Felix had what? One small mystery plot, an episode where he turned on ladybug, one he was a menace to society, and let’s not forget the whole flashback acting. Plus they took Kagami and just made her fall in love with Adrian’s basically twin…for what?
@@ArcaneMelody107 You do know hating on a child is a huge red flag right?
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian I’m not even hating, how can I hate someone who’s not real! I just stated everything wrong he did in the show
I’m not a fan of Felix x Kagami, to me they don’t match at all, Felix feels like he’d be a single character.