pretty awesome, will try it out, thanks... Alan Dawson had a routine of singing the melody while comping and playing 'stick control' exercises that completely fries your brain, but makes you learn the form inside out, including for solos
Cool method, Nate. I see how this could be applied to other genres as well as a away of increasing the overall musicality of what we’re drumming. And your point about the importance of starting by knowing the melody, reiterated from your other series of videos, is so key-and also applicable to other genres as well. Thanks, as always 🙏🏽
Man you have such great core content, but I think you'd reach way more people with better production value. Your voice sounds like it's clipping, the background looks dull (a basic black tarp would look way better). Maybe speed up your voice 5%? The videos are really long and helpful but I (and many of us) have such a short attention span it sometime feels like an overwhelming commitment to watch a whole video. Maybe just show the exercise, then link to a paid version of the full video? Idk, I love what you're providing for us but I think a lot of people are missing out because of how it's presented. love you dude! Keep on keepin on
@Chris Pollina You're right! There's always room for more introspection. I do watch many longer videos, but sometimes (often) it's nice to get short bursts to break up the longer investments. Like I said, I love and appreciate what he's providing, but I feel like more people should be seeing it and I'd love to see that happen.
There's another problem with drummers keeping the form while soloing over it. Occasionally, someone else in the band (for some reason it's usually a guitarist) will throw in a chord or figure during the drum solo, presumably to indicate a signpost in the form, but they do it a bar early or late, thus throwing off the form. In that case, you either ignore that, or you readjust and continue with the new "modified/edited" form. My point is that everyone on the bandstand is fallible, and should be supportive. Mistakes happen, and keeping the form perfect is ideal, but not absolutely a given.
It's super bare bones - Zoom H2 with just a little HQ as its own track in Garage Band, then Q3HD (obsolete zoom video recorder with an H4N mic) at the same sample rate by the kick drum, then sync them together in final cut.
With the cheapest and smallest little MIDI-controller (piano) keyboard you could roughly bash out the changes while singing the melody, too. I suppose the advanced challenge would then be to play the drums with three limbs while singing the tune and playing chords on the keyboard: far from easy I'm sure, but not far from what some people are already doing on gigs (though not jazz gigs): ua-cam.com/video/mv9tsecFNDI/v-deo.html . (Don't forget to thank me when those one-man^H^H^Hcat and two-cat jazz gigs come rolling in, everyone. ;) ) Apps like iReal Pro irealpro.com/ and the Erskine/Mintzer apps petererskine.com/apps/ will have their uses for this kind of thing too, though they're certainly a bit more expensive and there will be advantages to rolling your own tracks anyway.
@@8020drummer I just spent a week with him (mostly his dad, Dr. Paul Brewer) at the their jazz camp at Aquinas college!! Really incredible knowledge and talent that all the Brewers hold
Well, this video made me realize I'm just another knuckle-dragging, meathead "drummer." Good work, Nate! My grain hurts. Back to the drum man cave to hit things w. sticks & hope it sounds vaguely like music. Cheers!
Wow, I never ran into this problem on drums. Its probably because I also play bass and when I had bass gigs I had to learned the songs from the standpoint of a melodic instrument. On drums I learn songs the same way as when I'm on bass, by listening to them until I have the changes and the melody cemented into my memory. Till this day If I really like a song I'm doing on a drum gig I'll still learn it on bass because for years I simply had to. I was being asked to play either bass or drums on any given gig so I would have to learn songs on both instruments. I highly recommend singing the melody when you learn a song. It will embed the melody into your memory and help you understand the chord changes. And it will just help you as an overall musician not just a drummer. It forces you to think melodically.
Great vid. Thanks for this & look forward to more overall musical concepts like this. That’s what it’s all about at the end of the day anyways for us drummers-just playing music.
I'm a big fan of counting tunes off in the style of Jamey Aebersold..
"One. Tewww. A one, two... Three... Fore.".
pretty awesome, will try it out, thanks... Alan Dawson had a routine of singing the melody while comping and playing 'stick control' exercises that completely fries your brain, but makes you learn the form inside out, including for solos
That was so KIIIILLLING, MAHHHN! I use Mr. Sunny Bass's stuff to practice tunes as well.
Cool method, Nate. I see how this could be applied to other genres as well as a away of increasing the overall musicality of what we’re drumming. And your point about the importance of starting by knowing the melody, reiterated from your other series of videos, is so key-and also applicable to other genres as well. Thanks, as always 🙏🏽
Amazing. Thanks.
This has always been an issue for me, i hope i'll get through,
thanks Nate.🙂
MrSunnyBass
Cool vid, thanks!
Steve Holmes thanks! Flattered you watched 🤜🤜
@@8020drummer Your flattery flatters sir!! Ever go to LA?
Man you have such great core content, but I think you'd reach way more people with better production value.
Your voice sounds like it's clipping, the background looks dull (a basic black tarp would look way better).
Maybe speed up your voice 5%? The videos are really long and helpful but I (and many of us) have such a short attention span it sometime feels like an overwhelming commitment to watch a whole video. Maybe just show the exercise, then link to a paid version of the full video? Idk, I love what you're providing for us but I think a lot of people are missing out because of how it's presented. love you dude! Keep on keepin on
@Chris Pollina You're right! There's always room for more introspection. I do watch many longer videos, but sometimes (often) it's nice to get short bursts to break up the longer investments.
Like I said, I love and appreciate what he's providing, but I feel like more people should be seeing it and I'd love to see that happen.
Hey Nate, sorry ! Not truly a scary monster man, I must reveal myself to be none other than a..... devoted fan. Think about that for a second.
There's another problem with drummers keeping the form while soloing over it. Occasionally, someone else in the band (for some reason it's usually a guitarist) will throw in a chord or figure during the drum solo, presumably to indicate a signpost in the form, but they do it a bar early or late, thus throwing off the form. In that case, you either ignore that, or you readjust and continue with the new "modified/edited" form. My point is that everyone on the bandstand is fallible, and should be supportive. Mistakes happen, and keeping the form perfect is ideal, but not absolutely a given.
Great video...may you talk about the recording setup? Juste about mics/recorders, computer...stuff like that. Thanks!!!
It's super bare bones - Zoom H2 with just a little HQ as its own track in Garage Band, then Q3HD (obsolete zoom video recorder with an H4N mic) at the same sample rate by the kick drum, then sync them together in final cut.
Hey Nate, OOGA BOOGA . I am scary monster man. FEAR ME
wow
ROAR!!!!!!!!!
Oh yes // this is pretty fucking good !!!!!!
I've noticed your ears, before I saw your bjj tshirt! Cheers!
With the cheapest and smallest little MIDI-controller (piano) keyboard you could roughly bash out the changes while singing the melody, too. I suppose the advanced challenge would then be to play the drums with three limbs while singing the tune and playing chords on the keyboard: far from easy I'm sure, but not far from what some people are already doing on gigs (though not jazz gigs): ua-cam.com/video/mv9tsecFNDI/v-deo.html . (Don't forget to thank me when those one-man^H^H^Hcat and two-cat jazz gigs come rolling in, everyone. ;) )
Apps like iReal Pro irealpro.com/ and the Erskine/Mintzer apps petererskine.com/apps/ will have their uses for this kind of thing too, though they're certainly a bit more expensive and there will be advantages to rolling your own tracks anyway.
Totally agree all drummers should play basic voicings on piano
MATT BREWER BEST BASSIST EVER
Or close to it :)
@@8020drummer I just spent a week with him (mostly his dad, Dr. Paul Brewer) at the their jazz camp at Aquinas college!! Really incredible knowledge and talent that all the Brewers hold
Well, this video made me realize I'm just another knuckle-dragging, meathead "drummer." Good work, Nate! My grain hurts. Back to the drum man cave to hit things w. sticks & hope it sounds vaguely like music. Cheers!
Just promise me you'll wear some gloves so your knuckles don't get bruised :P
Music isn't comedy, it's not better when you're not comfortable
What about losing the form in pop tunes?
Ain't no joke
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Ethan Young second
@@8020drummer third
CAN YOU MOVE YOUR EYEBROWS PLEASE
All my thumbs up! Very chills me watchin' too, great cuts and remarks.. love your style
You didn't link his channel below! I'm gonna look the channel up though! Great video as usual
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Hey where is the link to that bass player you were talking about?
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Too bad I only have an iPhone
I was one of the people who text about this 😂😂 thanks man!
Wow, I never ran into this problem on drums. Its probably because I also play bass and when I had bass gigs I had to learned the songs from the standpoint of a melodic instrument. On drums I learn songs the same way as when I'm on bass, by listening to them until I have the changes and the melody cemented into my memory. Till this day If I really like a song I'm doing on a drum gig I'll still learn it on bass because for years I simply had to. I was being asked to play either bass or drums on any given gig so I would have to learn songs on both instruments. I highly recommend singing the melody when you learn a song. It will embed the melody into your memory and help you understand the chord changes. And it will just help you as an overall musician not just a drummer. It forces you to think melodically.
Molto interessante 👍
What exactly does It mean to get "vibed"
I think it's when everyone has a go at you for messing up.
I don't think it's the same as in the Mark Morrison tune!
I'm pretty sure it means that you were "sent bad vibrations".
"Losing Form Is Like Not Knowing Where 1 Is"!!!-SMH SMH
Great vid. Thanks for this & look forward to more overall musical concepts like this. That’s what it’s all about at the end of the day anyways for us drummers-just playing music.
that door is really grubby
You look like the Sheldon of drums.
This is incredible. Thanks Nate!
Yes, mr. Sunny is great! I practice with him all the time.