Better Than Rolex? Omega’s new releases….
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Omega’s sporadic releases these past few years have given me some thoughts. The brand as a whole is rich in history, make amazing watches, and in many respects have driven horological evolutions. Despite all that, it always seems as if they are one step behind the big dog (Rolex). Release after release, there’s always something that’s not quite right.
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I so agree on the 321 Speedmaster, best caseshape of any speedy, has a nice tapering bracelet with microadjustments, it really needs nothing, other than 100m water resistance, plus availability. If they can sell it at around what the RRP is for a Daytona, people will probably buy them. Yeah I know they are hand assembled by one watchmaker from start to finish, but why? I don't need it to be made by one guy. Heck I'm even cool with another movement in it, just have the straight lugs, 39mm size, 100m water resistance and the bracelet of the current 321 Ed White. Would definitely be a winner.
Preach 🙏🏻 Omega get in their own way sometimes
Awesome video! Love hearing your perspective as a watch collector.
Thanks Boston 😁
Negroni! Always excited when a video pops up!
😅 thanks Curtis. Trying to produce more often
@@ChristopherNegroni 100% agree about the 60th.... Sooooo close to making me sell my white seamaster, then F'd it up.
Love your laid-back style...
Thank you! Very kind of you.
Enjoyed your vid, agree on your thoughts for Omega. I will keep and enjoy my 300M Seamaster.
Still a great watch 👌🏼 white dial is killer
Finally someone with damn bolas to say the truth to the Omega-psychos fanboys, Rolex compete with themselves that’s why they’re the best
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lol. Perfect watch design goes for sign off - comes back with notes "You forgot to stick 007 stuff all over it" - also "lets make the watch people actually want, difficult to get" . "'Winning".
Can’t get out of there own way. I forgot to mention cutting off the Reese’s peanut butter cup on the side of their sea masters 😆 I know you’d love that.
Great Vid Negroni!
Thank you Lolex
Dear Omega, make my 38.5mm Aqua Terra thinner, sub 12mm preferably. I don't care if I cannot see the coaxating movement, I want a watch that hugs.
Listen to Kurt Omega! 😉
I want to see the movement.
Although I think a few of the models need some fine tuning there are a lot of things that are working for the company. For general non Omega fans that don't delve deep enough into the catalogue they don't see much of what's working. You mentioned the Pro Plof. Why would they make a ton of variations of that model if people already criticize too many speedy variations? If comparing to Rolex other than precious metal the Submariner only has two colors. I agree the bracelets across the board need help but they do provide options to help with that (rubber, mesh, nato, sailcloth) it's almost as if every time they do something that works it's compared to how it's not Rolex enough then when it is very Rolex they're called copycats. My main gripe is if they do all it takes to bring in a non Omega enthusiast they won't want to pay the higher premium it will cost for things like a slim diving chronograph 😫 (ie IWC ingenieur)
Valid points. But if we look to what they did with their recent “summer” releases with deep diving blue dials which was after I made this video, they indeed came out with a beautiful Ploprof. Overall Omega is great. They continually innovate in the space, but I think with that comes big misses. Not to mention the speedy was about a 5-6k watch retail before 2020 covid and they have managed to make the once bargain steel sports chrono a nearly 9k watch today. They don’t want to be compared to Rolex but they are playing in Rolex type of money. Naturally they will be compared
@@ChristopherNegroni I love the Pro Plof but we gotta agree the dimensions are not enough to satisfy the portion of the market looking for 36-38mm Rolex sized watches. Currently the OP in Black no date goes for $6400 retail there's no way you're telling me the speedy should stay at 5k. The black Bay 58 is 4k so a watch with as much history and demand as the speedy should actually be the same price as a sub $9k IMO (and this is someone who owns a speedy but still thinks it's worth it) There's no reason a speedy should cost less than a Santos with a subpar movement. Speedy has long been under priced even with it's short comings. We can overlook bigger brands flaws due to the desirability (hype) but when it comes to Omega they really get the short end of the stick.
Where's the novelties? Where's the colored dial OPs? See, the real way of copying it isn't by making some new colored dials and then producing enough, the main thing is you do not produce enough of them so people keep wanting them, that's their idea of hyping up their own brand I guess :D
Haha no, they got played by Rolex. As soon as they copied them, OPs were discontinued. So by the time you even start seeing the novelties, Rolex has long made them “uncool” 😆
You hit the nail right on the head! Well said, well done... Out! 👍🤣
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You right! 100%
Omega is taking chances with different designs and variations. You can't have it both ways. On the other hand, Rolex is making the same watch, dial, and case on how many different models?
There’s a differences between risk taking and designs/ releases that aren’t well thought out. I think Omega is great, but I think they just get in their own way sometimes.
@@ChristopherNegroni I'll agree with you there. On some models like particular speedy racing, Omega is trying a little too hard with the "subtle" design choices. But I don't think this means they're chasing Rolex. Isn't everyone chasing Rolex? This is just Omega's way of answering to the enthusiast collectors.
@@TurnRiver I think the problem is omega wants to squeeze as much money as they can. While Rolex has so much that they worry about protecting their brand. Design is important. You’re right everyone is chasing Rolex.
I have to agree that taking risk does have drawbacks. When all the other models except the speedy were initially created they were under the moniker of Seamaster. The reason I mention this is that it's much harder to evolve a design that wasn't a specific watch. Many of the design ques used on the super racing are kinda corny but they aren't hard pressed to sell this specific model but more so to launch the technology. If you relate this move to cars it would be like Toyota introducing it's most revolutionary new engine in a Camry (what if there are problems which they're will be with new technology) they would ruin their grail product. Rolex hasn't recently introduced any new movement technology that changes the watch game to this extent (they do have other patents like case design though) so it's hard to compare the brands.
Big Dawwwwwg! Great video mate!
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I think that the spirate spring is really striking and not revolutionary but a strong move and an impressive jump in accuracy ( I am one of those 10 people that love these engeneering solutions). But I have to agree on all the other things you sad, stop with limited editions and a speedmaster celebrating an Aquaterra? No sense.
anyway, Great content man!
I knew you guys were out there 😅 it’s a cool piece of movement Tech, but Omega just chooses strange ways of celebrating or unveiling these types of things
Bro I agree so much idk whey they always chase Rolex than you have people making videos called better than a Rolex. Omega has insane Heritage and beautiful watches they just need to make them thinner and stop with these Goofy bond themes. The Ultra Deep, Aqua Terra’s and even some precious metal Moon-watches were absolute turd. Their Plo Prof as well as Constellation which is a masterpiece are watches Omega needs to push. Also they can make some amazing thin dress watches like in the past and market those more.
Truth.
👍…Omega, please listen to exactly what he said..and for goodness sake 100m water proof and a crown we can wind, and yes automatic…why not, I might even buy one..and oh don’t forget to remove the damn wart from the Seamaster while you’re at it..and pay Negroni for the advice…😂
Lmao, the wart! I thought of that after I made the video. There’s too much to fix!
@@ChristopherNegroni too right, right on the money..home truths..I keep getting tempted over the years, then try one on, then realise the flaws..
@@Giovan_Nino always something wrong. So true
Speedy…a manual wind with a small crown stuck between pushers so you have to wind it with your finger tips.
@@wdc7582 😆
The Super Racing name is definitely dumb. I think the italicised 10 is more for the 10 year anniversary of the Si balance spring (since the Spirate thing is an evolution of it). It just happened to be in a Seamaster. I'm always down for brands bettering their accuracy, so cudos where deserved.
Totally agree with what it takes to fix the Speedy though. Give me water resistance and an adjustable clasp. And for that matter, give me a hesalite crystal with a sapphire case back. A 321 movement would be cool too, but I'd be down for a 3861 movement with that Spirate wizardry in it.
If Omega did the above, I might be able to get on board with it, though I don't think even that would quell my man crush on the IWC Big Pilot...
Why even mention a different watch? Do any other brands pay homage to a completely different line of watches with new releases? The customer buying it isn’t going to look at the ten and smile “oh yea tens years of….” It’s such a reach.
Big pilot is awesome. Definitely on my list of watches I would love to own.
@@ChristopherNegroni I generally chalk the italicised 10 thing up to watch brands liking to pat themselves on the back. Lots of brands do it, It helps them manufacture the perception of more heritage. Because to watch brands, what are you if you don't have heritage? MVMT?
I totally agree on the different line of watches thing. It's crazy thinking. Almost like some Swatch executive had to come up with something for a deadline and rushed their homework.
Omega Haters Unite! Justified.
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Truth was told ideed. However the one big thing about the spiral system is, supposedly, customer care, because if the watch is running late, the local staff should be able to regulalte it there instead of shipping it to switzerland or a Service HQ for a service - lowering waiting times. And one thing that nearly nobody talks about is after purchase customer care as that is sadly not as luxurious as you would hope - compared to the buying process. So that could indeed be a step in the right direction. The Speedmaster Super racing is ugly as fk tho..
Valid point. But my Rolexes don’t need to go back to service when I buy them. And do you really want the local staff to open up your new 11k watch?
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You should rank watches by how they're affected when you drop them into drinks lol 😆
Speedy bumblebee = 3/10
Lol I’d be able to speak to a few watches 😆
Omega has gone Lame.
Rolex need their watches back.
love this video.... Omega, stop following Rolex!!! We all love to love you, but you are messing things up!!
We love to love you, exactly 👌🏼
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@@ChristopherNegroni Honestly, the rumors that Omega is using Chinese production are decades old... This was told to me when I was living in Switzerland. I honestly think the fact their novelties didn't make it out, is a data point....
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Totally disagree… that watch is amazing and I love Rolex.
😟😟😟… to each their own