Hegel's Idealism & Marx's Materialism

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  • Опубліковано 25 жов 2024

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  • @ChristopherAtkins0
    @ChristopherAtkins0 Рік тому +5

    What was the original film called? Thanks for posting this.

  • @Zagg777
    @Zagg777 Рік тому +8

    Thesis-antithesis-synthesis is not the Hegelian dialect.

    • @skill1one1
      @skill1one1 Рік тому +3

      Whose is it then?

    • @thejackbancroft7336
      @thejackbancroft7336 Рік тому +7

      ​@@skill1one1Fichte, he needed to make the fact that Hegel prefers to think in categories of three appear profound.
      It worked, and now it's the most commonly recited "Hegelian" idea. Still fooling people centuries later.
      Hegel wrote an awful lot of nonsensical verbiage, so people need to pretend that they understand him. Even Will Durant made this error, citing the tired triad remark.

  • @yawnandjokeoh
    @yawnandjokeoh Рік тому +9

    Marx never used the term ‘dialectical materialism’ Plekhanov coined term well after Marx was dead. It’s really annoying how many times this is falsely attributed to Marx. Does anyone actually research Marx or do they just plagiarize other who have plagiarized others? I see and hear this particular mistake over and over.

    • @Akcija1930
      @Akcija1930 2 місяці тому

      Why do you think it is such a big mistake? Does it change the context of Marx's thought? Genuine question.

    • @yawnandjokeoh
      @yawnandjokeoh 2 місяці тому

      @@Akcija1930 thanks. Yes it does. Marx was not a traditional philosopher. He broke sharply with traditional philosophy. Professionally he never published a work on so called ‘dialectical materialism’. Not anything even close. Engels published one tract on the topic as a polemic that gained attention as an introductory essay to his and Marx’s work Anti-Durhing / and later re-worked into Socialism Scientific vs Utopian. While Marx and Engels generally agreed they were just two radical leftists each with a different view on certain topics.

  • @ssw8849
    @ssw8849 Рік тому +2

    what is this from?

  • @davidcsercsics6933
    @davidcsercsics6933 Рік тому

    Why synthavoice? If I want to listen to speech from a computer narrator is built into Windows and there is VoiceOver built into iOS? A shame because your content is usually stellar.

    • @k.s.9400
      @k.s.9400 Рік тому +5

      It’s not a synth voice. This documentary is from decades ago.

    • @davidcsercsics6933
      @davidcsercsics6933 Рік тому +1

      @@k.s.9400 sorry for that,thank you for your work.

  • @nupraptorthementalist3306
    @nupraptorthementalist3306 Рік тому +2

    Got any content on F. H. Bradley?

  • @ginogarcia8730
    @ginogarcia8730 Рік тому +2

    this is really naive but could one say that the negation of being would be like a negative being? like 1 + -1 becomes 0.

    • @vanessali1365
      @vanessali1365 Рік тому +1

      That's the entirety of Hegel's genius. (sarcasm)

    • @paladinsorcerer67
      @paladinsorcerer67 Рік тому +1

      I guess that lack of being means that it isnt in existence, so that would be the zero. Negation of being would be the opposite of being, so that would be negative one. I bet that Hegel said "negation" when he really meant "lack of".

    • @verydumbbtch113
      @verydumbbtch113 11 місяців тому +1

      No, its more like how -1 * -1 = 1, that is -(-x) = x.

  • @GottfriedLeibnizYT
    @GottfriedLeibnizYT Рік тому +9

    * *LAUGHING IN VIENNA CIRCLE* *

  • @Sagnikmay1
    @Sagnikmay1 Рік тому

    Why did you delete Kant's epistemology? 😕

  • @dionysianapollomarx
    @dionysianapollomarx Рік тому +25

    This is wrong though. Thesis-antithesis-synthesis isn’t Hegel’s.

    • @TheMahayanist
      @TheMahayanist Рік тому +8

      Yeah, pretty sure it's Fichte. Hegel simply say that history is determined by ideas, and those ideas guide Geist, or Absolute Spirit (which is all that exists in Hegel) to greater freedom. That's Hegel's belief, he was an idealist.

    • @salimyusufji5736
      @salimyusufji5736 Рік тому +10

      @@TheMahayanist Terry Pinkard lays the blame on Heinrich Moritz Chalybäus (1796-1862), a "deservedly obscure philosopher" whose "bowdlerised presentation" of Hegel's philosophy was immensely popular in Germany in the mid-nineteenth century and was read by Marx.

    • @kimandre336
      @kimandre336 Рік тому

      @@salimyusufji5736 You explained it quite well.

    • @Philosophy_Overdose
      @Philosophy_Overdose  Рік тому +8

      The terminology isn't Hegel's, but the dialectical process is still all over Hegel.

    • @tklimson
      @tklimson Рік тому

      @@TheMahayanist I agree, wasn't there an obscure theologian behind the dialectic? Can't think of his name.

  • @RosaLichtenstein01
    @RosaLichtenstein01 Рік тому +8

    This video completely ignores Marx's clear rejection of philosophy from the mid-1840s onwards, saying things like this:
    "Feuerbach's great achievement is.... *The proof that philosophy is nothing else but religion rendered into thought and expounded by thought, i.e., another form and manner of existence of the alienation of the essence of man; hence equally to be condemned...."* [Marx, '1844 Manuscripts'. Bold added.]
    *“One has to 'leave philosophy aside'…, one has to leap out of it and devote oneself like an ordinary man to the study of actuality….* Philosophy and the study of the actual world have the same relation to one another as masturbation and sexual love." [Marx and Engels, 'The German Ideology'. Bold added.]
    "One of the most difficult tasks confronting philosophers is to descend from the world of thought to the actual world. Language is the immediate actuality of thought. *Just as philosophers have given thought an independent existence, so they were bound to make language into an independent realm. This is the secret of philosophical language, in which thoughts in the form of words have their own content.* The problem of descending from the world of thoughts to the actual world is turned into the problem of descending from language to life.
    "We have shown that thoughts and ideas acquire an independent existence in consequence of the personal circumstances and relations of individuals acquiring independent existence. We have shown that exclusive, systematic occupation with these thoughts on the part of ideologists and philosophers, and hence the systematisation of these thoughts, is a consequence of division of labour, and that, in particular, German philosophy is a consequence of German petty-bourgeois conditions. *The philosophers have only to dissolve their language into the ordinary language, from which it is abstracted, in order to recognise it, as the distorted language of the actual world, and to realise that neither thoughts nor language in themselves form a realm of their own, that they are only manifestations of actual life."* [Ibid. Bold added.]
    *"The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force.* The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas; hence of the relationships which make the one class the ruling one, therefore, the ideas of its dominance. The individuals composing the ruling class possess among other things consciousness, and therefore think. *Insofar, therefore, as they rule as a class and determine the extent and compass of an epoch, it is self-evident that they do this in its whole range, hence among other things rule also as thinkers, as producers of ideas, and regulate the production and distribution of the ideas of their age: thus their ideas are the ruling ideas of the epoch...."* [Ibid. Bold added.]
    "It can be seen how subjectivism and objectivism, spiritualism and materialism, activity and passivity, lose their antithetical character, and hence their existence as such antitheses, only in the social condition; it can be seen how the resolution of the theoretical antitheses themselves is possible only in a practical way, only through the practical energy of man, and how their resolution is for that reason by no means only a problem of knowledge, but a real problem of life, *a problem which philosophy was unable to solve precisely because it treated it as a purely theoretical problem."* [Marx, '1844 Manuscripts'. Bold added.
    "The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it." [Marx, 'Theses on Feuerbach'.]
    So, according to Marx, "philosophy is nothing but religion rendered into thought"; it must, therefore, be "left aside", and one has to "leap out of it and devote oneself like an ordinary man to the study of actuality". That is because Philosophy stands in the same relation to the "study of the actual world" as masturbation does to sexual love. Furthermore, Philosophy is based on "distorted language of the actual world", empty abstractions and fabricated concepts. No wonder then that Marx contrasts practicalities (and a desire to change the world) with the pursuit of that empty and incoherent, ruling-class discipline, Philosophy.
    In fact, after the mid-1840s, there are no positive, and very few even neutral comments, about Philosophy in Marx's work (and that includes his letters).

  • @tklimson
    @tklimson Рік тому

    You missed Jakob Böhme

  • @Mujangga
    @Mujangga Рік тому +1

    Max Stirner could eat them all for breakfast.

    • @kaffeephilosophy
      @kaffeephilosophy Рік тому +1

      LOL😂😂😂😂

    • @bankafouf
      @bankafouf 6 місяців тому

      Max stirner is a student of higel Wich all are ....

  • @guldenaydin9918
    @guldenaydin9918 Рік тому +1

    🌈💝

  • @NAR-wv3sl
    @NAR-wv3sl 10 місяців тому

    Is this AI ?

    • @bankafouf
      @bankafouf 6 місяців тому

      No it's Higel....

  • @Booer
    @Booer Рік тому

    this video was filled with continued disinformation in the modern internet age. marx wasnt so anti theological (he was a good hegelian so he knew better than to make assertions boldly like that)- so no about the bit where you say the opium of the masses. (it was referring to the only thing that gives them hope in a world of depravity- not just in a stupor but left also with no alternative hope). and the bit about hegels tripart system- thats Kant not hegel. also for hegel marx leaves out the problem of knowledge which was a big part of what made german idealism what it was...thats not to discount marx's obvious contribution to applied philosophy in the sciences.

  • @fortunatomartino8549
    @fortunatomartino8549 8 місяців тому

    Leave it to th descendants of isreal
    Europe got another burden to mankind

  • @mentalitydesignvideo
    @mentalitydesignvideo Рік тому +1

    When is that Marx lived in deep poverty? He came from immense riches and married into immense riches.

    • @danieljones5754
      @danieljones5754 Рік тому +1

      He was exiled from Germany and France and lived in poverty in London

    • @mentalitydesignvideo
      @mentalitydesignvideo Рік тому +2

      @@danieljones5754 while married to an industrial fortune heiress?

    • @danieljones5754
      @danieljones5754 Рік тому +1

      @@mentalitydesignvideo look into it mate its not hard to read the reality

    • @mentalitydesignvideo
      @mentalitydesignvideo Рік тому +3

      @@danieljones5754 it's also not hard to fall prey to upper class obfuscation. Or perhaps his idea of poverty was "no grand white-tie balls for a while"

    • @danieljones5754
      @danieljones5754 Рік тому

      @@mentalitydesignvideo just read mate its not my job to educate you, have a good one