Rick Roderick on Hegel and Modern Life [full length]
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2012
- This video is 5th in the 8-part lecture series Philosophy and Human Values (1990).
Thanks to rickroderick.org for making this available. I'm merely interested in redistributing to anyone who might enjoy and benefit.
I. Hegel was conservative.
A. The culmination of this long historical process is that history proper came to an end.
B. Right wing Hegelians took Hegel to be fundamentally right and therefore applied his method over and over.
C. To left wing Hegelians such as Marx Hegel's is a classic text but has an ambiguous legacy.
II. Marx criticized capitalism.
A. A criticism of capitalism is a criticism of Hegel because for Hegel, capitalism coupled with liberal democracy is the highest achievement of humanity.
B. The democratic state is in contradiction with the imperatives of the capitalist economy.
1. We are used to these contradiction in our current society. This was not true in Marx's time.
2. The secret of capitalism is the shift in identity from what you are in a society to what you own or have.
C. Marx identified several effects of capitalism.
1. It reduces human needs to those which can be bought and sold in the market place.
2. It produces from nature more technological abilities than in all of history.
3. These come into contradiction because of the imperative of the economy to make a profit and to fulfill nil these new needs.
III. Marx's ideology:
A. If you really want to know how someone thinks, look at their surroundings. This outlook, "materialism," criticized ideas by examining.
B. Moral or philosophical clilemnas must be understood in terms of being different for different classes.
C. There is a difference between a theoretical approach and an approach rooted in daily life.
D. You must not let your life be reduced to poverty or work.
E. Before moral problems arise, there are preconditions for human life that have to be fulfilled such as food, shelter, health care and freedom to pursue other goals besides work.
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27:56 The absolute moral clarity of this moment actually sent chills down my spine. Rick was clearly an affable guy - political and opinionated, but charming enough to get his digs in without turning off his auddience. But for just a moment at the end of this lexture series, he just throws down his gloves and smacks us with the truth we Americans will do anything to avoid acknowledging. Its a message as true in 1990 as it was in 1960 and sadly still is in 2023.
"It’s not utopian to demand that in a world with this kind of technology, that as a moral demand, a society feed, clothe and house its people. A society that doesn’t do it, with the kind of technology and the wealth we have is beneath contempt and makes a mockery of all the previous history of civilization."
Even after years I couldn't forget this quote. He said that in the 90s.
"If you live by an ideology the most dangerous ideology to you is your own, because someone may expect you to do what you say."
God dam... he could have just dropped the mic and went home right there. Words can't express how true I have found this statement to be in my own experience.
ideology is an empty term. @@boris3866
@@robertgreenwood2258 Would you elaborate? I'm not sure about its meaning yet, but it has to at least refer to a set of shared ideas, an interpretative frame, containing a normative dimension.
@@robertgreenwood2258 Perhaps you mean something like the term is always used by someone outside of the frame itself, so it's nothing more than verbal weaponry. I'm curious.
yes thats what i meant. just misused very often
@@robertgreenwood2258
But that is complete nonsense. It is NOT only people outside of an ideology who use the term, and even if that were the case (which is most certainly isn't) it would still not render it an empty term.
It doesn't matter if you are a Conservative, Marxist, Liberal, Fascist, Christian, Hindu, Progressive, whatever, you have a set of ideals which are BY DEFINITION an ideology so to say it is an empty term is just foolish.
People may not admit that they are ideologues, but that doesn't mean that they don't admit they have ideologies.
This lecture so clearly identifies the sickness of our society. It is eerie at the end to hear the name of our current president mentioned.
definitely did a double take. if he wins this election somehow, the system is truly irreparable and will either kill us or be killed by us.
And Biden has made it all the worse . Is there any hope ?
@@s1lentsound there's always some hope, but it's tough for sure. I do think US hegemony is weakening and in a long time that could lead to change in the US.
@@davidfoust9767 in the UK we're still playing 'catch-up'...
sorry to be so off topic but does anybody know a tool to log back into an instagram account??
I was dumb forgot my password. I love any tricks you can give me
"Don't work for 8 years.. and if really bad things happen to you, you are in the working class" - in 2020 that process takes 8 days when the economy shuts down and millions are out with nothing...
Exactly my thoughts. In fact I played that section twice because I was thinking he must have said 'a' year, not '8' years. This is
how bad the economy has fared for working people in the good ole USA today.
What working class can forgo work for 8 years?
@@mksybr 1995 middle class Americans apparently
@@SP990 Middle class is semi propertied class, the working class the one that MUST work for its income-- exactly my point, if you are living off capital earnings or property or ownership of a business you arent working class.
@@mksybr Fair enough
"It neither has nor deserves a very long existence."
He's so right, this society is pathological and I can feel it soaking into me
This talk represents the best of Rick Roderick: fierce moral and social critic, passionate humanitarian, philosopher as interpreter and judge of their time, proletarian preacher and sage in the street, antithesis to a loafer in the museum of knowledge.
The last minute of this lecture is very powerful.
rick is Americas most profound philosopher. All of his lectures are a deep meditations on the human condition,
I agree! I was moved to tears.
But he's not a "philosopher" . He is a professor of philosophy.
@@Maziedivision i disagree, he juggles around these philosophies like they each are a pair of glasses. In one moment he observes our society through the eyes of Hegel, in the next he puts on his Foucault glasses and in any case he gives striking and precise critics of the presence. He might not be an extremely innovative or outstanding philosopher, but he defenitely is one. I mean really, what‘s the big difference between him teaching thousands about Hegel, Marx and many more while critisizing the presence and Sokrates teaching the youth on the athenian market?
That last moment was the weakest moment. Karl Marx opposes turning things into monetary exchanges, but Roderick is bitter that old men telling stories arent paid a wage by their listeners.
@@Enjoyer5222 the currency roderick was looking for was the simple act of listening to our elders.
Your misunderstanding of him reinforces his point.
stuff gets real at 28:11
Rick was a beacon of philosophical logic and good will. I've found no one to replace him. If you know of anyone please share.
Good luck to us all. We certainly need some luck along with our limited amounts of skill. Be well friends and if things aren't well in your world don't go off blaming yourself. This world is designed to enslave.
You’ve got my attention, friend. Well spoken. 👍
Lectures on Lacan is pretty cool
Mr.Rick Roderick was one of the few most human intellectual America ever had. His lectures in philosophy and philosophers were most enlightening. Sadly missed by many around the world.
"Marx's name of course is not used much anymore" ha this almost dates it more than the tape artifacts, great lecture
This is the best lecture I have ever seen/heard.
I NEED A VCR!
That ending though.. dam. Time to go rethink my life.
This lecture seemed more about Marx than Hegel! Whilst I know Marx is probably the best known student of Hegel, the title does seem a bit misleading. He also didn't mention the dialectic of history, or the master slave dialectic, although I suppose its sort of implied when he talks about the haves and have not's. Interesting stuff though, but I often find it interesting that there is a gulf between what we value personally and what society motivates us to accept. I feel Marx hit the nail on the head when he talked about the alienation of labour and social alienation in modern society. I think that was probably the most accurate observation he ever made.
Hegel and Marx is about evolution and about what we are evolving into. The problem being that the program that drives evolution (environment, genome and the brain as the central processing unit) is not in our control, and we do not even have a model either.
This program exists independent of whether we like it,or whether we have a proper understanding.
Hegel' appeal involves the courage displayed in claiming dialectics as the universal program.
With the big bang, dark matter and dark energy were produced with opposite properties, followed by production of particles and anti-particles, resulting in production of elements, molecules, compounds, organic compounds, amino acids etc., and on to life and intelligence.-!!!
Marx was never a student of Hegel. Hegel dies several years before Marx went to university. Hegel was still the leading philosopher in German universities and his thought certainly influenced Marx.
jay very silly thing to say.
@@continuousminer He is right though, to adopt the pragmatic blunt style of Rick Roderick..In quite simple terms, HE DIDNT READ HEGEL OR AT LEAST FAILED TO PRESENT HIM IN THIS SEGMENT. This is all Marx and the toilet should reflect so
@@emmanueloluga9770 Failed to read Hegel? Thats a massive leap in logic because he didn't cover him as you'd like.
Look at all the neutrinos zipping across the screen from deep space.
+Mangled Marionettes namaste loved your comment, made me giggle, thankyou :D
Lol I was just thinking that.
Mangled Marionettes you're funny
Mangled Marionettes hahaha if only...
Mangled Marionettes
Neutrinos??? Er, no.
Cheaply and totally incorrectly found myself profile the man on account of his accent. Fanfeckintastic lecture.
My favorite UA-cam philosopher.
A powerful lecture. I think the fact that he speaks with a 'non-intellectual' accent really drives home the message. We need more Rick Rodericks.
31:12 *Hegelian praxis* “You notice how after Hegel we’ve started giving a theory of the present and stuff-well see that was what we promised we would do. Is that philosophy at its best should be _our time_ comprehended in thought. That keeps it from being what Nietzsche says sort of _a museum of ideas which is built for loafers in the garden of knowledge._ Well for philosophy to be more than that sort of museum of ideas built for loafers in the garden of knowledge, it needs to give an intransigent account of conditions in the present. Now it could be wrong, ok I told you I was a fallibilist, what I’m saying there could be wrong. But that shouldn’t be decided by slogans or TV commercials or by Willie Horton ads but by debate, by argument among a public body-public citizens talking and arguing.”
i can never get enough rick roderick. rest in peace you wonderful wonderful man
"No one spells quite clearly [that we think the poor deserve their condition]"
This makes me almost glad he left us so early. If had seen what we're capable of...
If I weren't diogenes I would also want to be diogenes
Semblance
Me too
Agreed
"It is no argument to say our tribe is a little better than the other so that's fine" - Beautiful
I REALLY NEED a hiss-less audio recording of this lecture!!
😂
What an inspirering human being. Thank you Rick Roderick.
This man is very uplifting. Sad he is gone.
Foro Cultural 81 will be the same with Zizek
The way the video ends. We live in a pathological society, that was fucking epic!
“Philosophy, at its best, should be our time comprehended in thought” beautifully articulated.
And his words are still ringing true... and that existence that doesnt deserve itself seems to be ever in danger of ending.
I am envious of those student who were so lucky to attend his lectures
Absolutely fascinating talk, thank you for posting
how come he didn't say what diogenes responded to alexander: "if i wasn't diogenes i woulf want to be diogenes too"
that's what makes the story iconic
Look how timeless this is.
Great lecture! It's truer today than in 1990. I love Rick Roderick!
One of the very finest from Roderick - many powerful points and transformative insights inspiring further investigations. Thank you so much for posting!
Wow! Amazing! That was one of the best lectures I ever heard.
Rick Roderick was an intellectual mountain!
Great lecture, very impressed with this professor.
despite being a bit thin on hegel, rick you were right on the money with this lecture.
there are limited theaters were human experience is prized, and these are not on the 6oclock news
37:29 *Necessary human requirements* “What I’ve been trying to fill out today for you is a richer notion of freedom in which we recognize that before moral problems really come up in the philosophical sense... before they really come up there are conditions for human life that have to be fulfilled which I call _necessary human requirements._ They’re not sufficient to live a good life, but they’re necessary. Among them are: food, shelter, ordinary healthcare-real exciting huh? See that’s not as much fun as Kant but they’re real important because without that it’s hard to follow the _categorical imperative._ You know.. it’s easier to follow a ham sandwich without that. So that’s a necessary but not a sufficient condition for a good life.”
Thanks for the post.
This lecture is the beating heart of the series. Such a powerful and prescient critique of our way of life.
Fascinating lecture.
very refreshing...the calmness of the lecture and lecture hall...in comparison with today where the hall would be filled with people texting and fidgeting...indicative of how much worse things have gotten with regards to "Veblen Goodism" and how conspicuous has become the "work" as well (internet get rich scams and "spectator economy" (likes, shares and ads on the cooky cat vids).
Thanks for these videos. Im still watching the first but I love Hegel and will watch this next.
Thank you for this post. This man was s great teacher.
mic drop at the end! well done RR
Great lecture.
Imagine still having to, or even having the privilege to quit working for 8 years before things get real bad. We're at a point here where if you quit working for 8 days, 8 weeks for the lucky, your life is upside down.
I wonder what Roderick would say if he knew Trump was running the country today.
Watch his lecture on Baudrillard in the "Self under siege" series. Much of what he says about Reagan can be applied to Trump.
He'd whip up some of Jameson's postmodern theory in the Logic of Late Capital about revivalism and the "continuous present ", definitely lots of Baudrillard's hyperreality, and obviously a critique of how neoliberalism and the 08 stock market crash allowed Trump to be seductive in the first place.
beautiful lecture !! rick roderick was truly intelligent!
"If I were not Alexander, then I should wish to be Diogenes."
But what Diogenes would say is, "If I were not Diogenes, I would still wish to be Diogenes"
that final quote hits hard.
Does anyone know any other lectures or videos of this kind and quality? I am hungry for more and I have watched Roderick's videos many times
Open UA-cam; Search Sartre or Kant or Socrates, etc; explore some of the videos. I like Wes Cecil's series on the lives and philosophies of various people. The series from A Partially Examined Life offers indepth discussions of particular works of philosophers.
Hey thanks, I'll check this Wes
Cecil
ResearchReveals Hey I have listening to Wes Cecil's videos and they are wonderful. Thanks!!
if you're after philosophy, Gregory B Sadler's channel is the best I've found on YT
he's quite a bit less political, though
Good lecture.
The really hard cuts in these lectures make me wish we had access to the unedited tapes.
In the uncut ones Roderick tells bar jokes and anecdotes that are totally inappropriate and quite ribald honestly.
@@AndreasDivus1 Now I really want to see it
Magnificent
Was the video cut at the 34 minute mark?
Kiitos. "VCR's" - how about iPad's. I'm using one right now to listen to this lecture. Tempus Fugit. Kiitos, anyhow.
Nausea is one of my favorite books Sartre's psychology of the imagination is remarkably similar to Kandells neuroscience except of course for the actual science justifying the explanations, I'm very curious now for the critiue for dialectical reason since he mentioned it
Wow some strong themes there
@5:56 damn my boy Rick going HAM lol
The issue with this & every societal based observation around ethics is that it always assumes a standard of humanity that has simply never been actualized: we are not altruistic beings in totality; we are alyrustic on occasion & Ideally; pragmatic & daily, we are selfish, self centered, & self important.
All ethics have to begin with this as a fundamental foundation & any which start with perfection, ideal states of being, progress, etc. is simply a "museum of morality" & not reality.
I'm always looking for new interesting lectures on Psychology/Philosophy, please let me know if you guys have any recommendations, would be highly appreciated
19:18 onward is a great point
10:40 Twin Peaks (TV series) reference
31:30 that guy really enjoyed the Nietzsche reference:)
oh dear, that was good.
"It neither has nor deserves a long existence", so fuckin true
Pilgrim from the Sugrueverse here! Cheers ya'll.
Now we finally know what Luke Skywalker studied on that island. 🤔😉
@Stella Maris
Well, it's not so easy to separate Hegel's followers to admirers and detractors. For exemple, Feuerbach and young Marx were pretty much criticising Hegel and his idealism. But for them too, his was the absolute reference, the philosopher who you had absolutely positively the obligation to face. I think as far as political thinkers of 20th century goes, Marcuse and Adorno are the best "readers" of Hegel I've ever read, and you forgot to mention them. ;)
What about Zizek’s Hegelian reading?
Did anyone catch what he said @ 2:00?? And see what we facing rn… damn this is on point p
Rick at his most based and most pissed. Its hard to believe that this was recorded so long ago, he even references Trump.
It isn't the financiers that are the axis of evil - it is the advertising industry - they created all the "new needs"...
Stndsure
Financiers CREATED the advertising industry in order to sell all the bullshit that nobody needs.
Oners82 and they’d both argue that people _freely_ choose to buy these things, that they decided themselves to _need_ VCRs, Nikes and Infinity cars (while actively denying any responsibility in massaging those desires of course..)
Let's reduce it further and give "attention" all the culpability
Hot damn, Rick Roderick just demolished Donald Trump years before he ever ran for president. Superb lecture.
I hope Trump wins.
me too
LOL
lol
@CountFenrir It is sick what is happening in America--and for that matter... all around the world. People's conceptions of a meaningful involvement is absolutely deprived of a lasting meaning, aside from an abjectly hedonistic rejection of humanism.
To whom it may concern,
Don´ t make another " Man Made Got " or " Hero" out of him or even worst simply " making your Identity based on his Knowlege. Nobody is that poor on Earth. Put his word in use for your own SAKE & not persuading others. That means NO Anarchy and NO Violence & NO GO Places if your Heart doesn´t approve of. Use his Word wisely in your own environment. REST is just History (dead ! ) before you know it. Many THX to him( RIP) 👏🍻 👏& THX to YOU for Save & Broadcasting & THX to this Plattform🙏
Now that capital is concentrated into so few hands people are expendable, thus the possibility of robotisation in the coming decade.
I'm sure Rick would be astounded by the developments of the last 20 years.
There seems to be a strong correlation between the amount of Rick's Western Texas accent and the amount of US social problems. Maybe quite unconsciously he had tried to obfuscate the social problems to foreigners ?
I like the texan down to earthliness. This is coming from an Australian.
this is so tru still :/ 27:41 - 28:42
Wait is this Marx or Hagel lecture.....?
10:00 Replace the word rubble with riot
Feel a little clickbaited and decieved into listening to a lecture on Marx (when I was curious about Hegel). Was interesting enough though.
To be fair, marx is the most famous hegelian and basically the way everyone finds out about hegel today. But if you want a better hegel centric lecture I recommend the ones by Arthur f Holmes from wheaton College.
He gave a great talk on how to mood-alter through self-righteousness, though he thought he was doing something else.
For a talk that was very polemical, highly selective and incomplete, he could have shown more humility. But humility is not a strong point of the sanctimonious.
That VCR line goes harder than acknoledged. 😅
good def of freedom 37:31
Can you imagine how Roderick would react if we could tell him that in 2008 the USA elected a black president who served two consecutive terms. And then in 2016 we elected Donald Trump?
When he talks about hissless music, he becomes George Carlin.
I thought so too
Don't insult him
25:30 *no book is 100% right* “I don’t care if it’s _right_ [...] because what we want from books is to get something out of them that we can use.”
Love it in 2019. Time to study Marx carefully without the bias that have been brainwashed into us.
Mic drop ending
Sharpest guy on this shitshow of philology
19:14 20:12 27:47 29:12 38:57
In another miniseries so it seems.
TITLE IS MISLEADING. While this was an astute and succinct commentary that serves more as a practical joke especially the end segment, this was about Marx, not Hegel. Oh wait..isn't Marx about Hegel?.......badadumsssttt
-"Fuckee-yama!" :D
40:10 Donald Trump reference to wages