Zenless Zone Zero devs listened!?

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
  • zzz has been getting some hate, and overall hasn't been as hype as the other hoyoverse games... but they might be cooking here and fixing the game
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  • @Skycrowliu
    @Skycrowliu 2 місяці тому +211

    I just take a nap when ever I don't wanna switch during a chain attack.

    • @ayramyoui
      @ayramyoui 2 місяці тому +8

      Same dude, same

    • @aidanjackson5084
      @aidanjackson5084 2 місяці тому +7

      Only to then get pestered by the character for missing said Chain Attack switch. Though in the words of Ellen, "You daydreaming too?"

    • @sparhawk2195
      @sparhawk2195 2 місяці тому +11

      Or stop being idiots, use the chain attack and swap back to the character you want. Weird the game gives you tools to do that.

    • @JordanII.
      @JordanII. 2 місяці тому +9

      ​@@sparhawk2195 this will get rid of buffs, so fuck no

    • @Gheniel_
      @Gheniel_ 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@sparhawk2195 oh you mean we need to use kara cancel and then swapback swapback? 😮

  • @pauljerome01
    @pauljerome01 2 місяці тому +57

    They should have added more polychrome for completing the TV section of the story.

    • @boothenoob5386
      @boothenoob5386 2 місяці тому +1

      Honestly they should maybe more debuffs more rewards

    • @user-Nuts-El-Berserko
      @user-Nuts-El-Berserko 2 місяці тому

      @@boothenoob5386 I’m reporting you for spreading hate 😤😭

  • @AJ_._._
    @AJ_._._ 2 місяці тому +78

    glad that the zzz devs are closer to star rail devs than genshin

    • @ThomasAndy-qu8dp
      @ThomasAndy-qu8dp 2 місяці тому +10

      excellent news for sure, i'm not planning to go on that game for now (wuwa and my steam library is enough) but it's great to hear this isn't another genshin devs crapshow.

    • @alvinlee7710
      @alvinlee7710 2 місяці тому

      I had a feeling that they want to shift their players focus from genshin to HSR and now to ZZZ, like telling us not to get too close to genshin, as genshin is our first big project, there sre some games that have better graphics and gameplay.
      Remember that genshin is immensely popular due to lockdown and some ppl are just happy to stay there and hoyo likely wants us to move on to their other better games.

    • @segbefiajustin2408
      @segbefiajustin2408 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@alvinlee7710would you guys give up the lockdown arguments? It's 2024, if ppl still play it then they probably still like it

    • @alvinlee7710
      @alvinlee7710 2 місяці тому

      @@segbefiajustin2408 bruh chill out, this is just an assumption. Im not saying genshin is losing players at a fast pace. Ppl still playing it and i still play it since 1.0.
      The fact that genshin has many players that time is really due to lockdown is true, where there aren’t many really good gacha games that time. Everyone including those are not familiar with gacha all flock there during that time.

    • @segbefiajustin2408
      @segbefiajustin2408 2 місяці тому +1

      @@alvinlee7710 and I'm saying it's 2024. Using lockdown as an excuse is way too old.
      Genshin introduced a bunch of its new fans to gacha. And yet still has a huge playerbase in 2024. Lockdown has nothing to do with the popularity nowadays, especially when for older players there's not really any innovative stuff in it

  • @paladincomics
    @paladincomics 2 місяці тому +44

    getting feedback this soon that addresses things we wanted fixed/added is a good sign, I hope this can continue, Genshin also has a ton of untapped potential that will remain this way because giving feedback to the devs does nothing

  • @deltaxvs
    @deltaxvs 2 місяці тому +73

    Even though a lot of the things are plan for abit later the FACT its plan to happen and is being worked on is so good to hear. This is why I honestly do got high hopes for this game. Also I LOVE rally man

    • @Why_AreYou
      @Why_AreYou 2 місяці тому

      Nahh bro majority of major things are scheduled for next patch, it's UI and other things that are scheduled for later patches.
      Honestly I didn't joined the game cause it had too many drawbacks, but i might join now cause I really like the kit design of characters this game, but if there's no combat then what good does kit do, right..

  • @itisventus
    @itisventus 2 місяці тому +57

    the manual chain attack alone may fix most of my issues with combat feeling extremely automated and cyclical, I see that as a win for those of us who wanted more expression during the combat segments
    now the thing is just hoping that hyv doesn't lock any cool new combat mechanics to limited chars and forcing even more FOMO, but that's never gonna really happen, it's a gacha game and a gacha company after all...

    • @formul8r10101
      @formul8r10101 2 місяці тому

      What kinda cool combat mechanics are you looking for?

    • @No-Ink
      @No-Ink 2 місяці тому +2

      Itll allow for better rotations too.

    • @itisventus
      @itisventus 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@formul8r10101 my main wish is to have someone that's able to do some midair combos to air juggle enemies for enough to chain between grounded and aerial combos
      other than that, I'd also love to see more characters with pause or hold combos, air launchers, CC-grouping options and teamwork attacks, as we only have a select few characters that really benefit from them

    • @imjustlikedenji5954
      @imjustlikedenji5954 2 місяці тому +1

      Do you know who HAD manual chain attacks??? Wuthering Waves lol.
      They are going in the right direction doing that, cause the fights DID feel very "on the rails".
      This will add some strategic element to using the chain attacks, do you want to build them up or go ham? Do you want to use them up or make use of the buffs on your main?

    • @Kyroliger
      @Kyroliger 2 місяці тому +2

      Funnily enough people who complain about chain attacks are button mashers. There’s a way to not activate the chain if you simply don’t perform that last hit in an attack. You can cancel is via dodging or switching right before the last hit lands. This change encourages button mashing and people will just keep harping on how button mashy ZZZ is.

  • @Gaeul-j3j
    @Gaeul-j3j 2 місяці тому +96

    HSR devs listening
    💤 devs listening
    When will genshit devs listen ?

    • @Hasieur
      @Hasieur 2 місяці тому +20

      when genshin devs listen
      it is the end of world

    • @kiuhh1118
      @kiuhh1118 2 місяці тому +13

      What do you want though lol. The amount of qol ever since 4.0 has been very nice and 5.0 is looking like the biggest qol/feature update since release as well. If you're still expecting hard combat then switch games, clearly not the focus of the game.

    • @ymw1107
      @ymw1107 2 місяці тому +7

      Never, bcuz regardless of what they do, the game is still bringing in them money, that game is just too popular to fail unfortunately

    • @TerraTheWise
      @TerraTheWise 2 місяці тому +10

      Thing is they have been making many improvements. People just like to hate and because they’ve gone so long being stubborn it won’t even matter at this point.

    • @BlazeSwigglePlayzMc
      @BlazeSwigglePlayzMc 2 місяці тому +17

      @@kiuhh1118 Yeah but thats qol that took'em 4 years to add, a lot of that stuff has been suggested and asked for since the 1.0 days and even them some of the qolfeatures that were "cough cough loadouts" are half baked and not even what the community initially asked for.

  • @eatsomeice179
    @eatsomeice179 2 місяці тому +97

    It's seems like the only Devs that doesn't listen is GI Devs. Good job Sleeper (ZZZ) Devs

    • @Sable813
      @Sable813 2 місяці тому +7

      Genshin has actually had a ton of quality of life inprovements lately and 5.0 is bringing modeled resin to Genshin from HSR according to leaks.

    • @jellythewomanconsumer1590
      @jellythewomanconsumer1590 2 місяці тому +24

      ​@@Sable813heard its even better because you select up to two substats as well as the main stat. There is probably a catch though

    • @miraqen7801
      @miraqen7801 2 місяці тому +4

      @@Sable813 took them long enough. years long...

    • @Sable813
      @Sable813 2 місяці тому +4

      @@jellythewomanconsumer1590 if you can choose 1 or 2 substats that would be insane. I'm guessing it's gonna be a super rare item that is only avaliable in the paid battle pass though.
      That or it can't be used on new artifacts, only strongbox ones.

    • @MostSaneBuddy
      @MostSaneBuddy 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Sable813from the leaks so far you can get it from paid pass, every 10 levels of the sigil offering in natlan and you can craft 1 by scarificing a lot of artifacts and there a chance for it to also be a reward for major events in every patch like crowns

  • @blueraine21
    @blueraine21 2 місяці тому +70

    Genshin could never... even after almost 4 years

    • @kiuhh1118
      @kiuhh1118 2 місяці тому +5

      Sure buddy. Genshin adding self modeling resin with ability to pick main stat and 2 substats while other hoyo games still stuck with only main stat selector

    • @gamerbeast3616
      @gamerbeast3616 2 місяці тому

      Genshin devs lisen to lol

    • @kiuhh1118
      @kiuhh1118 2 місяці тому

      @@palientologist , "nobody cares" youre a nobody, a droplet in the ocean, get off your high horse and realize your bitter experience with the game doesn't correlate with the opinion amongst many.

    • @supernieva2419
      @supernieva2419 2 місяці тому

      ​@@palientologist Players still care thats why genshin still got more players than other gacha

    • @genshinF2Play
      @genshinF2Play 2 місяці тому +1

      the only reason they listened on ZZZ is because the sales are bad. Genshin generates so much income, unless ya'll stop spending on that game, they will never listen. (they are losing to WUWA) also its unpopular in china compared to other games in that genre.

  • @s.t3602
    @s.t3602 2 місяці тому +34

    I heard of them changing it but I liked the TV stages, as its like a maze but would be cool if it was fatser buuuttt i like what they are changing it to as itll be like mini map

    • @Radiant450
      @Radiant450 2 місяці тому +9

      My issue with TVs is it still feels quite slow, especially in some missions where there is tons of unskippable dialogue, I get it in main story missions which majority care for, but other random ones? Not really.

    • @yvindvego9404
      @yvindvego9404 2 місяці тому +2

      the tv system will still be used a lot in side commissions probably.

    • @MoonlessNight32
      @MoonlessNight32 2 місяці тому +1

      I actually like the t.v modes as well. Just not during the story mode.

  • @cawashka
    @cawashka 2 місяці тому +23

    I genuinely hope they won’t remove the TV system completely. It's the one thing that made this game unique & believe it or not, some people actually like it.

    • @27Ganon
      @27Ganon 2 місяці тому +3

      Yeah if they completely drop the TVs and turn the gameplay into HI3, I'm probably quitting the game

    • @kapeecoffee
      @kapeecoffee 2 місяці тому +3

      Drop the TV in story content but they can keep it in puzzle modes. Idk how many times the TV just broke my immersion doing story

    • @nerio1227
      @nerio1227 2 місяці тому

      I doubt they will since they are improving it further in later updates. I just hope it will be smoother. It was so hard for me to go through that.

    • @27Ganon
      @27Ganon 2 місяці тому +1

      @@kapeecoffee even in story missions, I don't see how replacing TVs with HI3 like missions is any better? You're still not "seeing" the story happen outside of cutscenes and the time between story events and dialogue is probably longer.

    • @kapeecoffee
      @kapeecoffee 2 місяці тому +1

      @@27Ganon nah like me and most players agree that the TV mode during story is a drag and is hella boring

  • @skellyglob
    @skellyglob 2 місяці тому +22

    I literally couldnt get into ZZZ because of id have griped with a lot of stuff. The devs nearly fixed everything i had issues with so looks like ima give it another shot.

    • @member.5290
      @member.5290 2 місяці тому +3

      omg, just dont play, the whole mount almost past. Let people have fun. If you wanna sweat your ass play wuwa or something else

    • @10nessee
      @10nessee 2 місяці тому +16

      @@member.5290when did he say that he wanted to sweat his ass off 😂 zero comprehension skills

    • @aliceevangeline6146
      @aliceevangeline6146 2 місяці тому +15

      @@10nessee How dare he don't like my favorite game and let other people know about its flaw

    • @TerraTheWise
      @TerraTheWise 2 місяці тому

      Nah stay gone bro. Game was good even before these updates. Don’t come back now.

    • @ShineDair
      @ShineDair 2 місяці тому +16

      @@TerraTheWise Clearly even the devs disagree with you considering they acknowledged people's feedback and are making changes to the game.
      Stop being a shill. Criticism is good for improvement.

  • @Proxylamborg
    @Proxylamborg 2 місяці тому +179

    LET THEM COOK

    • @LUCAS420BLZ
      @LUCAS420BLZ 2 місяці тому +2

      I wonder what people are gonna think of the Idol Trio being added in the future, it'll be hilarious

    • @plang-plang5035
      @plang-plang5035 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@LUCAS420BLZthey'll probably go mad like "Why are there more loli characters?!?!"

    • @Aiden-iy9du
      @Aiden-iy9du 2 місяці тому +5

      @@LUCAS420BLZ Tectone will cry

    • @JohnWolf926
      @JohnWolf926 2 місяці тому +1

      @@plang-plang5035wait they’re adding more lolis?

    • @plang-plang5035
      @plang-plang5035 2 місяці тому

      @@JohnWolf926 yes and no, the idol faction have 3 characters according to their official bilibil post. And they're the same character model as Koleda, Piper, and Lucy. One of em is a fully robot too, don't know about the other 2. There are also 2 upcoming mommy characters, Caesar (from Biker faction) and Jane Doe (from PubSec faction)

  • @Masfugo
    @Masfugo 2 місяці тому +7

    imo the TV isnt really that problem
    it's just the animation took way too long for everything

  • @Borovski213
    @Borovski213 2 місяці тому +67

    Yet another genshin could never moment

    • @projectsin8216
      @projectsin8216 2 місяці тому +3

      Doesnt matter same company tho

    • @atheon-
      @atheon- 2 місяці тому +41

      ​​@@projectsin8216, it does matter lol, it matters more, why one is clearly neglected while the other ones are this way?

    • @ImproperStandby
      @ImproperStandby 2 місяці тому +3

      Meanwhile Genshin is in the corner asking for treats.

    • @unclutched5702
      @unclutched5702 2 місяці тому +4

      @@projectsin8216 dosent matter if its the same company, there are different teams for each game and lets just say genshin has the worst team

    • @kacper0563
      @kacper0563 2 місяці тому +6

      You should check out the leaks for 5.0, they're implementing a lot of the stuff from hsr and other similar games, and making a bunch of them even better. For example they're adding the modeling resin (artifact stat manipulation thing), and making it even better by allowing you to select the substats.

  • @kreftl
    @kreftl 2 місяці тому +25

    I won't get my hopes up yet until I see how they implement the changes. They made many promises back in cbt too but the barely made any changes.

    • @blueraine21
      @blueraine21 2 місяці тому +4

      I mean, at least they recognized the problems and even replied which might be the 1st time hoyo actually do,.. Keyword here is *RECOGNIZED the problem* and *REPLIED* which made me question my sanity if hoyo devs actually did this or just fake news..
      This is like night and day compared to genshin devs who pretend the problems dont even exists and just glaze over them..

    • @By-Izy
      @By-Izy 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@blueraine21 at this point im just gonna see how hoyo implementation becomes rather start hyping myself right after news like this, i really dont have high hopes from hoyo after 4 years of genshin

    • @propan2ol.2024
      @propan2ol.2024 2 місяці тому

      ​@@By-Izybuddy ur mind us stuck on genshin, the same hoyoverse actually bringing qol changes every patch in hsr... I mean every patch 2-3 qol changes comes
      Also in gi because of wuwa, they are bringing qol changes too

    • @MyNameIsIisan
      @MyNameIsIisan 2 місяці тому +4

      You mind letting us know what those empty promises were? Or is this just spreading misinformation bc you feel goofy?

    • @thornszk
      @thornszk 2 місяці тому

      I mean, that is still way better than wuwa promising to increase the tacet field drop in 1.1. Where now?

  • @liquid_cheese9930
    @liquid_cheese9930 2 місяці тому +2

    5:24 it means when you didn't 100% the TV map you don't have to redo it, you will just get your missing rewards over time passively

  • @LUCAS420BLZ
    @LUCAS420BLZ 2 місяці тому +46

    I remember genshin had a road map for 1.0
    Where did the years go by..

    • @plang-plang5035
      @plang-plang5035 2 місяці тому +1

      Wait wut??? A road map? Pls elaborate

    • @Yesteayum
      @Yesteayum 2 місяці тому

      What were the contents of the road map?

    • @JohnWolf926
      @JohnWolf926 2 місяці тому +8

      @@Yesteayumpreview of the game storyline from start to finish and general plot and teasers for each region and some characters dilic and monstat, liyue and ning, inazuma and ayaka, sumeru and cyno, fontaine Lynne and lynette, natlan and the small skull head kid, snezhnaya and the fatui guy, khaenriah and dains etc

    • @JohnWolf926
      @JohnWolf926 2 місяці тому

      Was released at the start of the game called teyvat chapter storyline preview

    • @fernandomeza4848
      @fernandomeza4848 2 місяці тому +1

      It was a ten year road map and I remember the community not liking it.

  • @raydough874
    @raydough874 2 місяці тому +9

    Am I the only one who enjoys TV? It’s unique to any to gatcha games I don’t want zzz to just become another open world exploration style game 😭

  • @knection1986
    @knection1986 2 місяці тому +10

    Glad they are working on it. I couldn't even make it to endgame because I got burnt out on the endless (what it felt like to me) amount of tv missions.

  • @seliland
    @seliland 2 місяці тому

    i like the tv sections when its actually a puzzle and not just meandering between battles

  • @justinjamin
    @justinjamin 2 місяці тому +1

    5:20 "Fairy Assistance", basically: If you completed a commission, but did not collect all of the chests, you would normally have to replay the commission to get all of them. "Fairy Assistance" means after you progress more, those rewards can automatically be collected by Fairy.

  • @Nozaraki
    @Nozaraki 2 місяці тому +16

    Lmao "listen" if they actually cared to listen they would have done that when beta phase players let them know how much they hate the tv but they think they know better

    • @LUCAS420BLZ
      @LUCAS420BLZ 2 місяці тому +5

      They were forced to listen, CN was massively angry with hoyo about barely any feedback being taken into consideration
      A year and a half of beta, no massive changes beyond UI and censoring

    • @10nessee
      @10nessee 2 місяці тому +3

      Right 😂 idk why everybody is so happy about stuff we shouldve got over a month ago

  • @CGT37
    @CGT37 2 місяці тому +1

    What I assume “Fairy assistance” will be is for any loot you leave in the TV fields and don’t feel like diving back in for, you’ll probably be able to have Fairy just collect that crap after the game is sure you won’t do it yourself.

  • @AshishRawat-po7kk
    @AshishRawat-po7kk 2 місяці тому +62

    Here before ZZZ becomes another open world game.

    • @MyNameIsIisan
      @MyNameIsIisan 2 місяці тому

      Lmao true. This just seems like they’re pandering to the open world brainrot

    • @cyriotic3
      @cyriotic3 2 місяці тому

      imo with the aesthetic and all i think it'll be great if this actually happens

    • @treestump17
      @treestump17 2 місяці тому +1

      God i fucking hope not, let it be its own thing, we've got enough of those.

    • @towermice
      @towermice 2 місяці тому +1

      yessss please give me more massive empty worlds

    • @heppelhopv2
      @heppelhopv2 2 місяці тому

      People asking for this don't know what they're saying 😭

  • @DokiKimori
    @DokiKimori 2 місяці тому +2

    The choice of being able to interrupt chains is amazing. This was killing me when using Senkaku with Ellen

  • @Aeris_Asano
    @Aeris_Asano 2 місяці тому +52

    I just uninstalled yesterday because of the TVs. we’ll see if they can turn it around tho

    • @Niddy_Gritty
      @Niddy_Gritty 2 місяці тому

      Same!! 😅

    • @Pequod_LZ
      @Pequod_LZ 2 місяці тому +1

      i highly doubt they'll drastically change the TVs. It looks like something they heavily invested in with all the animations it has

    • @MrJoseeclipse123
      @MrJoseeclipse123 2 місяці тому

      Nice me two unistalled the first day because tv sistem

    • @gamerbeast3616
      @gamerbeast3616 2 місяці тому +1

      Stop complaining about the tv system

    • @i_lunarr
      @i_lunarr 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Pequod_LZ I'm hoping they don't

  • @Railegh
    @Railegh 2 місяці тому +95

    1:20 THANK F*CKING GOD

    • @subscriber101able
      @subscriber101able 2 місяці тому +12

      I dunno, that's probably gonna be more of "implemented less" since there's people out there who enjoy the TV system too.

    • @Mini5hrek
      @Mini5hrek 2 місяці тому +13

      @@subscriber101able majority don't like it, it's super annoying imo as well.

    • @plang-plang5035
      @plang-plang5035 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@subscriber101ableyeah, and it's the thing that differentiate zzz. If they remove it, then this game is just gonna be Hi3rd 3.0, at least revamp it into something less confusing

    • @danudarmanto
      @danudarmanto 2 місяці тому +2

      for hollow zero it's fine to still use tv, but for main story it's really killing the vibe.
      so thank god they listened

    • @via_kole
      @via_kole 2 місяці тому +16

      I love the TV system I think it's very fun and different. Hope they don't get rid of it entirely.

  • @weusedtobeangels
    @weusedtobeangels 2 місяці тому +6

    I just discovered the internet and being in the community today and I'm absolutely baffled on how the people's reactions for the TV segments of the game are totally opposite as mine. I think the TV is amazing.

    • @stevej1235
      @stevej1235 2 місяці тому

      many are just Wuwa hills, they are irrational losers, what they hate is not tv, is hoyoverse brand

    • @SanityPotion776
      @SanityPotion776 2 місяці тому

      I’m in the same boat. I really enjoy the TV sections lol

    • @puglifeforever8345
      @puglifeforever8345 2 місяці тому +1

      They take fucking forever, we just have to sit on a screen for a total of like 3 minutes each missions waiting for the little text bubbles in the top right to leave so we can continue playing the game

  • @dragonwaz
    @dragonwaz 2 місяці тому +1

    The game has Story missions(yellow), Exploration missions(blue), and Combat missions(red). If you've played the game you've done these. Story is story obviously, Exploration is the tv side missions. Combat is the missions that just had combat. It sounds like they'll be adding a baby mode where if you beat the mission but didn't get an S buy doing a good enough job or by getting the three Hollow Observation Data's you can just ask Fairy to complete the mission and it'll hand over the S rank rewards you didn't get.

  • @beestek.94
    @beestek.94 2 місяці тому +4

    Hopefully, this will be implemented and not just another dev plans. Genshin devs really tarnished Hoyoverse's reputation for a lot of players, ngl.

  • @MuhammadBetam
    @MuhammadBetam 2 місяці тому +1

    every new change sounds great and i'm really happy a lot of better things are coming to improve the game!
    but i would love if they also mentioned anything about co-op or multiplayer as well
    i would love to have a co-op mode to help my friends in exploration and harder combat missions!

  • @SonnyLando
    @SonnyLando 2 місяці тому +1

    I hope they split the options with the TVs. Like yall can do what ever yall want and I’ll continue using the TVs

    • @Konpekikaminari
      @Konpekikaminari 2 місяці тому +2

      You & me both
      I actually LIKE the TVs

    • @i_lunarr
      @i_lunarr 2 місяці тому +2

      Yeah I think there should be an option I love the tvs

  • @legosiw
    @legosiw 2 місяці тому

    Tbh I like the TV parts as a puzzle aspect. It has its own charm. But being able to run through physically as the character is so much fun. I'd be fine with a plot the route in tv mode then run it with your agents for extra goodies would be fun

  • @zardon_zane1630
    @zardon_zane1630 2 місяці тому

    They have to, their competition is Wuwa (yes I know those are different kind of games but they were released really close) so is good that competence is making games better :D

  • @leech204
    @leech204 2 місяці тому +1

    ZZZ is really just a modern HI3, and I'm all for it

  • @lvrbad5588
    @lvrbad5588 2 місяці тому +17

    Its crazy that a game getting QoL changes is called "pulling a Wuthering Waves" when HSR literally gives us insane QoL changes every patch ever since release

    • @fable2830
      @fable2830 2 місяці тому +18

      Nothing on the level of wuwa tbh and I don't even play wuwa that much

    • @Morichoradio
      @Morichoradio 2 місяці тому +13

      ​@@fable2830 Wuws was sht ass at first thats the reason why they went through 100+ hotfixes, minor and major update. It was unoptimized and overall a stupid experience for those who placed during the 1.0 patch

    • @lvrbad5588
      @lvrbad5588 2 місяці тому +7

      @@fable2830 I have played both games since release every day and HSR has had better QoL changes so far

    • @kimfels4960
      @kimfels4960 2 місяці тому +1

      I'm calling wuwa QoL changes insufficient until they make tacet field farming less awful. Killing 5 mob waves over and over is such a joke.

    • @devildante9
      @devildante9 2 місяці тому +3

      @@lvrbad5588 HSR has been out for well over a year and a half, while WuWa is like 2 months old. Also HSR is from Hoyo, who has literally infinite money, while Kuro had to take loans out the ass to develop WuWa. That being said, I'm super happy to have support HSR because of all the QoL and endgame modes they release constantly, while I dropped genshin back in 2.3 after not implementing anything, it was a good call because it took them 3 more years to even start doing QoL stuff.

  • @dudebro7567
    @dudebro7567 2 місяці тому +1

    I have mixed feeling about this more challenging content is great and less tv is great but what was the point of the time system if you can eventually just reach a point where you can change the time and controlling your agents outside of combat is cool but it feels like the devs are just trying to please the players without keeping their own artistic vision in tact (idk how to phrase this better)

  • @Dysputant
    @Dysputant 2 місяці тому +30

    I'm glad i have attention span longer than 1 minute.
    I can play with tvs and i feel fine...

    • @bigmilk13_
      @bigmilk13_ 2 місяці тому +17

      Good for you, but it's boring as hell. Don't insult other people's attention spans because you like a shitty gamemode

    • @Gheniel_
      @Gheniel_ 2 місяці тому +6

      Doesn't matter, even with attention spam of 50h its still boring mode

    • @Larky90
      @Larky90 2 місяці тому +6

      It has nothing to do with Attention span, they are just unnecessary inconveniences, adds literally nothing to the gameplay at all, actually i would even go as far as it's taking away from the gameplay fluidity.

    • @evecrimson3306
      @evecrimson3306 2 місяці тому +4

      U like watching unnecessary ads in UA-cam i know . Cuz u got big attention span

    • @GroundDragonIII
      @GroundDragonIII 2 місяці тому +5

      You need attention to beat tv mode?

  • @shinobly
    @shinobly 2 місяці тому +2

    I know I'm in the minority but this is a little bugging because they worked so hard on this TV mode thingy and it was actually unique, In fact I actually warmed up to it and now actually quite like it😅. Now we're more likely to get even more simpler gameplay within the story of just running around moving levers won't be that engaging as you may think. Just like Hankai impact 💀

    • @Wintermute--
      @Wintermute-- 2 місяці тому +3

      It being "unique" does not make it good nor was it not already simple, on top of that this is just a style of archaic dungeon crawling that existed in CRPG's way back since the 90's but with a visual flair (but we moved on from that because tech improved). Navigating and exploring via menus and panels is just archaic and not engaging.

    • @shinobly
      @shinobly 2 місяці тому

      @@Wintermute-- that random fun fact maybe true, but again I am in the minority here, and I didn't say it being unique made it good either. Just that I personally warmed up to it, and now actually quite enjoy it! My main bummer was just that the games story gameplay will be much more simplistic, and quite lame. Of course we'll see.

  • @KhoaLýMinh-m3l
    @KhoaLýMinh-m3l 2 місяці тому +8

    Can't believe that Genshin is the only game that Mihoyo never puts any QoL changes in that game, 'Genshin could never' is no more a meme or a slander, it's a fact lmao

    • @pierro13579
      @pierro13579 2 місяці тому +3

      When was the last time you played genshin?

    • @cakegood
      @cakegood 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@pierro13579Let's be real they're adding QOL nobody asked for or cares about, right now ppl are complaining about the new region lacking characters with melanin

    • @LUCAS420BLZ
      @LUCAS420BLZ 2 місяці тому +1

      They took 3 years to add a claim all button in the material farming thing

    • @kacper0563
      @kacper0563 2 місяці тому +2

      You should check the leaks for 5.0, there is a lot of QoL coming in the next patch, and we just got an upgrade to commission completion and battlepass dailies completion, making it basically spend resin>collect commission reward>collect expedition reward>claim daily bp xp, which makes the daily grind just like hsr.

    • @kacper0563
      @kacper0563 2 місяці тому +2

      @@cakegood last time I checked skin colour has no impact on gameplay, I don't know how you came to the conclusion that qol and skin colour coincide with eachother.

  • @gameinweb1285
    @gameinweb1285 2 місяці тому +3

    The ability to adjust the day and night made the purpose of the original feature redundant and the ability to use the other agents for exploration also made Wise and Belle redundant. Still a great game and shows dev listens to players at the expense of their original intent

    • @solare2455
      @solare2455 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah i actually like all these as is, really helps with the immersion. its fine if they incorporate the changes as options though, just make them inconspicuous. Mtashed is legit treating ZZZ as a job, with the 'slamming through the story' and whatnot, which is not speaking for at least some of us here.
      I'm a gacha fiend and I find ZZZ to be setting such a special precedent for mobile/gacha games with amazing 'everything', from art directions, production quality, to gameplay options (accessible yet with high skill ceiling). It deserves so much more for such an amount of polish and risks it's putting out

    • @venjaminffxi
      @venjaminffxi 2 місяці тому +1

      Change time if your level is high enough they said, so is not like they are fixing it

    • @iflgames3245
      @iflgames3245 2 місяці тому

      your comment does not even make sense at all 😅

    • @gameinweb1285
      @gameinweb1285 2 місяці тому

      I do like the changes to manual and cancellation of chain attacks as I believe most would have accidentally chained if they play using the mouse and keyboard. That is an improvement and not an overhaul of the unique features. Devs listened because they cannot afford the "take it or leave it" attitude regarding the TV. A pity it wasn't the 20 pulls kind of listening jk.

    • @iflgames3245
      @iflgames3245 2 місяці тому +1

      @@gameinweb1285 the TV still exist its just kept to challenges and exploration only from now on.

  • @16bitOtaku
    @16bitOtaku 2 місяці тому +1

    But I like the TVs it’s like a puzzle

  • @Zigzog420
    @Zigzog420 2 місяці тому +2

    Damn TV mode is awesome, rally missions are too involved. Prefer the TVs aesthetic and chill gameplay. Oh well.

    • @kuricosmos
      @kuricosmos 2 місяці тому +1

      There's definitely room for both. As I loved the puzzles that the Exploration mode brought. However I worry that they could run out of cool ways to keep that engaging long term. Ideally you'd want engaging zones, cool hacking puzzles via HDD, and hub worlds. I do believe they want to keep the game size smaller and be friendly to pick up and play, so this has to be strategically done.

  • @Pandrawrr
    @Pandrawrr 2 місяці тому

    With changes like these, honestly the future is looking bright for ZZZ.
    My biggest gripe with the combat was the forced switching because for me it just breaks the flow of combat so badly. It also felt like it took away player agency, so I'm really glad this change is coming to give that back.

  • @hijodelsoldeoriente
    @hijodelsoldeoriente 2 місяці тому

    Point No.2 is the biggest for me. With it, the game is like playing itself and you just have to press a QTE button, at least now, they give you more freedom.

  • @diwatasmile801
    @diwatasmile801 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice been waiting for you to cover this upcoming changes.

  • @miguerys9503
    @miguerys9503 2 місяці тому +2

    Classic Hoyo.They listened... and they did very little or nothing.
    Believe them when you see them ACTUALLY improving things. They said the same during beta test about the TV system and they did nothing.

  • @sven4423
    @sven4423 2 місяці тому +1

    Devs for the grindy stuff like artifacts and upgrade materials just include an auto fight mode. Kinda anoying having to play everyday to spend energy. Just make it like HSR and autoplay that stuff please.

  • @daniel336600
    @daniel336600 2 місяці тому

    what everyone would of given for us to hear this from genshin devs way back then

  • @othaneconnor8850
    @othaneconnor8850 2 місяці тому +2

    I think I'm one of the only people who actually enjoys the TVs lol

    • @i_lunarr
      @i_lunarr 2 місяці тому +2

      From the looks of it a lot of people enjoy the tvs but it's just the people that hate the tvs are more vocal and complain becuase thet don't have a subway surfer ad at the bottom of their screen

    • @othaneconnor8850
      @othaneconnor8850 2 місяці тому +1

      @i_lunarr it mixes things up and they obviously put a lot of effort into it. Might not be for everyone, but then again, a game made for everyone is a game for no one.

    • @i_lunarr
      @i_lunarr 2 місяці тому +2

      @othaneconnor8850 exactly I think the best thing to do would be to have an option saying launch in TV mode or launch in game mode at mission start

  • @enderbotv1766
    @enderbotv1766 2 місяці тому +1

    they better didnt remove the TV's

  • @furuderika8093
    @furuderika8093 2 місяці тому +1

    Ill probably wait till 2.0 to try it. Keep those QoL updates rolling.

  • @tactaillike
    @tactaillike 2 місяці тому

    hopefully the story changes (point 1) aren't for just a small part of the story in 1.1; if it's at least like half of the story content being told inside new eridu rather than the tv's that's a W imo

  • @Riv679
    @Riv679 2 місяці тому

    For real, ZZZ has been growing on me more and more as i play. Wasn't too much of a fan on the start, but was never hating the game. Was a decent game at best, but it's growing on me and become better and better as i progress. Awesome news with the combat modes getting more difficult. Can't wait.

  • @satisfaction8242
    @satisfaction8242 2 місяці тому +49

    Mfs in here just hating zzz for fun😂

    • @hotterthanfire7436
      @hotterthanfire7436 2 місяці тому +30

      No, I’m hating because the game, imo, is ass.

    • @quochuyduong9421
      @quochuyduong9421 2 місяці тому +38

      @@hotterthanfire7436 Wuwa is worse

    • @member.5290
      @member.5290 2 місяці тому +11

      Mtash fault for assemble zzz haters, because most of NORMAL people already move on, and people who enjoy the stayed and play. Now he will be stuck with wuwa and hsr, and maybe another new coming gacha, but i doubt.

    • @OmegaOne609
      @OmegaOne609 2 місяці тому +16

      @@quochuyduong9421 at least the devs didn't pull a 180 pulls for free scam, while having to invest10 hrs or smth to claim them and even those were standard banner pulls lmao

    • @altra1616
      @altra1616 2 місяці тому +1

      @@quochuyduong9421 bro went from one end to another, you did not needa do this 💀

  • @imannews5419
    @imannews5419 2 місяці тому +2

    I love the TV missions, what's the problem, lol

  • @DisLichii
    @DisLichii 2 місяці тому +12

    i feel like ppl are being swept away by the "devs listened" meme. almost everything on this list is what you'd expect from normal updates of a video game. most endgame? improving UI? fixing the horrible time-related gameplay restrictions (have to go to bed)? yeah, all expected to be included with normal updates, these are not "devs listened" worthy. to me there's 3 additions here that are "devs listened worthy", maybe.
    1. control over "chain attacks" - really i don't even know how the game was released without this. this is a combat-oriented game and i don't have control over how i want to approach combat? yes i know you can wait out the timer for the chain-attack, if that was their intended way to play then that's not only boring but actually criminal to plant noob-traps like that.
    2. less TVs in the future - this one i'm cautious about. even with my very limited game time, the re-use of gameplay zones was very apparent and felt super cheap. replacing TVs with gameplay zones will only highlight this more. hopefully this will push them to create more gameplay zones, but we'll see (and ffs why can't we JUMP in a combat game?! dafuq)
    3. being able to play as other characters while outside combat zones - again, something i'm surprised the game released without. in a character-collector ppl want to look at their characters and play as their characters, this is incredibly obvious.
    the chain-attack control will make me go back and try the game again, but i'm not expecting much. my personal experience is that the game needed another 6 months of development before release.

    • @By-Izy
      @By-Izy 2 місяці тому +2

      Agreed, too much consecutive bad update and overhype on some normal ones

    • @Malcommind
      @Malcommind 2 місяці тому

      Ppl love echochambers

    • @10nessee
      @10nessee 2 місяці тому +1

      As long as devs even say a word to the community, they will eat it up and rejoice

    • @TerraTheWise
      @TerraTheWise 2 місяці тому +4

      Brother these are not “normal updates” for a video games. These are pretty sizable changes that are going to have a big impact on player experience. Especially the ones coming later. More than anything else, people are just happy that the devs are communicating about so many big changes happening so early into the game. It gives people confidence in knowing that the devs are listening and paying attention. Yea some things “should have” been in the game already but the fact is they weren’t. Don’t know why you’re being such a downer.

    • @reys4k
      @reys4k 2 місяці тому

      ​@@TerraTheWiseit's funny to me cuz most of these things were in the game in the closed beta

  • @SnowxXxAngel
    @SnowxXxAngel 2 місяці тому

    I liked the 'tv mode'.... it was fun!

  • @kaguya099-0
    @kaguya099-0 2 місяці тому

    let me run around as the wolf boy and ill be happy

  • @latitude990
    @latitude990 2 місяці тому

    This is amazing. Now PLEASE improve the disc drive interface if that's what we're gonna be spending most of our time using

  • @akialter
    @akialter 2 місяці тому

    No matter how bad a game can be, what only matters in the end is whether dev listens or not. Hype for the future of ZZZ

  • @kelogz007
    @kelogz007 2 місяці тому

    It’s not surprising that devs for a new game will make changes according to community concerns. The question is will this still be the case one year and millions of players down the road lol.

  • @TheWaifuConnoisseur
    @TheWaifuConnoisseur 2 місяці тому +1

    I know you haven’t gotten far enough in hi3 or pgr to experience this, but there are some god awful exploration mechanics later in both those games that makes it feel so sluggish. I’d much rather deal with TV exploration than be a slow moving mechsuit in pgr, or have to deal with mandatory walking segments and “open world” exploration in hi3. Rally missions aren’t sluggish, and probably similar to early hi3 mission styles, but I still have that slight fear that they might overhaul TV for the worst.
    I said it in another video, but treat ZZZ kind of like Persona or a jrpg, and you might have a better time playing. ZZZ has a similar story loop feeling that jrpg’s have for me, and after going at it in that perspective my experience has become way better.
    And imma borrow something that you said in the past, “a game made for everyone is a game made for no one.”

  • @Vasarcdus
    @Vasarcdus 2 місяці тому

    I hadn't heard you say it before, but I had the exact thought after doing my first rally mission the other night. "That was the most fun this game has been, and now I don't like the TV bits except for maybe in hollow zero..."

  • @reidenar
    @reidenar 2 місяці тому +1

    And they still aren't implementing ability to change music in the store... Come on.

  • @dedfish7495
    @dedfish7495 2 місяці тому +2

    The parry still changes characters right?

  • @dethreroller
    @dethreroller 2 місяці тому +1

    Hope it'll be implemented soon not just a promise/roadmap

  • @yep8669
    @yep8669 2 місяці тому

    they should have never made the tvs a main mechanic. More just a side minigame

  • @GoldenFireball_23
    @GoldenFireball_23 2 місяці тому

    Mtash with the Mr.Pokke special. Number one free to play zenless zone zero btw, Original devs listened streamer.

  • @monkeyslapapparatus
    @monkeyslapapparatus 2 місяці тому

    I agree, the game is okay. I hope it gets better if not, ill be dropping it and focusing on wuthering waves.

  • @NaeNzuko
    @NaeNzuko 2 місяці тому +2

    Honestly , TV mode is really fun. I just wished we could get it in a less boring manner , like , it's way too long for the amount of combat we have. Like , I definitely don't want it removed , I do enjoy it , but just balance it out with the rally mode-like exploration. Also , the controls are horrendous for mobile , I really want them to add a d-pad/v-joystick to it , because I hate when you can only go to the TV next to you , and not just click on the other side of the map and let it auto track it.
    Speaking of mobile controls , I don't know how the hell I can switch to the character before my current , I'm starting to think you can only do it with keyboard/controller. It feels so bad having to switch twice quickly to get back to your desired character.
    I'd also love to have a skip button during city talk scenes (the parts of the commission when we're in the city talking , without that shared screen). Like , why would I want to skip the main story but not the side commissions? It doesn't make any sense.

  • @mad0813
    @mad0813 2 місяці тому

    I dont think they should get ride of the tvs all togethwr but yes i feel like rally is what the same should have been.

  • @Zero_Li24
    @Zero_Li24 2 місяці тому +3

    What? they will reduce the tvs?! That's my scapegoat, just like mintpicking in genshin, you can't do this to me. DEVS DIDN'T LISTEN

  • @Golder_10
    @Golder_10 2 місяці тому

    i don't hate the TVs, i feel like they just take away momentum

  • @MatttPickklesss
    @MatttPickklesss 2 місяці тому

    I found zzz enjoyable just like you said the longer I kept playing the more I was enjoying the game

  • @188Karma
    @188Karma 2 місяці тому +7

    Now let us do the hoyoshill vs WuWa move and say:
    -Devs seem desperate now
    -if they really listen, why haven't they implemented these changes after CBT3
    -can't wait to see more bugs after these fixes OMEGALUL
    -DEVS LISTENED finally we can walk around as Ellen, but game still dogshit

  • @b-l1969
    @b-l1969 2 місяці тому

    I dunno, I kind of enjoy the TV motif.

  • @dyeluke7236
    @dyeluke7236 2 місяці тому

    im telling u guys, dont sleep on this game, start now before you regret not farming gems in the future. I can see this games bright future

  • @baskorosuryaputra1925
    @baskorosuryaputra1925 2 місяці тому

    Damn. If they remove the tv mode, I might go back to the game.

  • @SignusDav
    @SignusDav 2 місяці тому

    i just hope that the mechanics got better because it has the same problems as genshin, sometimes you can attack something especific mob and you end up hitting something way in the other way and it attack the other you wanted to attack it doesnt let you do what you want to do its really annoying

  • @Thatscrazyy4real
    @Thatscrazyy4real 2 місяці тому

    Now all we need is 5 million pulls as compensation

  • @akichan4168
    @akichan4168 2 місяці тому

    So I guess they didn't hit the revenue target.

  • @BadgerOff32
    @BadgerOff32 2 місяці тому

    Mtashed, you seen anything about that new game coming out from the Tower of Fantasy devs? It's another game with a stupid name, it's called Neverness to Everness (or NTE for short), but it looks good! It's like a 'Genshin GTA', with a huge city to explore, cars to drive and upgrade and apartments to buy!

  • @schonkigplavuis8850
    @schonkigplavuis8850 2 місяці тому +2

    I need the TV's because my hand hurts from clicking

  • @Solidwake
    @Solidwake 2 місяці тому

    Any and all changes that are seen as positive goes a long way.
    I'm still in the chapter 2 area. So I'm looking forward to the changes but have been enjoying the game overall.

  • @reys4k
    @reys4k 2 місяці тому

    so what update are we getting all these fixes?? cuz we need these asap

  • @nerio1227
    @nerio1227 2 місяці тому +12

    Obligatory Genshin could never.

    • @ForTheViolence
      @ForTheViolence 2 місяці тому +4

      Genshin is still better than ZZZ.

    • @10nessee
      @10nessee 2 місяці тому

      @@ForTheViolencezzz is probably a bottom two gacha game rn 😂 right behind tower of fantasy

    • @adriancox2381
      @adriancox2381 2 місяці тому +1

      @@10nessee Def not. hasn't been out long and theyre making big changes. Im sure it'll get better.

    • @Niddy_Gritty
      @Niddy_Gritty 2 місяці тому

      ​@@ForTheViolence they are both made by the same company lmao

  • @Dream_scape47
    @Dream_scape47 2 місяці тому +1

    Just make a good game and we'll play it, simple as that

  • @malificajones7674
    @malificajones7674 2 місяці тому

    I don't understand why Genshin is so static.
    The development team were super responsive in Honkai Impact 3rd. They made constant improvements to the UI, the in-game currency, the game modes, character progression... everything.
    I suspect they will give ZZZ a radical overhaul based on all the negative feedback... which is great!

  • @salto7080
    @salto7080 2 місяці тому

    missed opportunity to remake that devs listened thumbnail

  • @RejectedInch
    @RejectedInch 2 місяці тому +2

    "Zenless Zone Zero devs listened!?" No, simply they're sweating bullets after noticing that the game is not doing well as they expected.

  • @cozmipark
    @cozmipark 2 місяці тому

    Finally we can use Agents in the city 😭

  • @LuZErTX
    @LuZErTX 2 місяці тому +1

    genshin is a joke at this point. Thanks wuwa for "listening meta"

  • @minhduc132
    @minhduc132 2 місяці тому

    Bruh they actually doing the John Hoyoverse plan that Zyox yapped about

  • @partskeleton
    @partskeleton 2 місяці тому

    Me, having not lost any hype this whole time: 😮

  • @a4arick106
    @a4arick106 2 місяці тому

    Rally Commission finally a thing

  • @purpirek
    @purpirek 2 місяці тому

    The tv mode is still there and I won’t reinstall

  • @maxinne86
    @maxinne86 2 місяці тому

    About overworld, I just want the char I picked to be the main... It is so boring being bossed around by Wise!

  • @Atmo-sp
    @Atmo-sp 2 місяці тому +1

    My only question is... What happened during the 3 CBT ? No one gave this obvious feedback or did Hoyo just didn't care until they got the backlash on release ?

    • @damo1329
      @damo1329 2 місяці тому

      They didn't care then or now, there will be no substantial change as always, it is to calm the waters and get money from the fools who still continue or believe that this game will improve its shitty puzzles in the most annoying aspect, I reached lvl 30 And I get tired, I leave him and I don't come back for empty promises.